I remember the emotion during this game vividly. I was only 13 but I could still sense the huge atmosphere of loss. We were glad that this game was out of the way to be honest, so that we could get back to business. For me, this season was one of the greatest championship winning seasons, because the team was practically being rebuilt and a few decent kids were coming through - including a young Ian Rush.
Amazing upload. This was my first first-team game at Anfield having been to a couple of 'mini-derbies' beforehand. My dad had been a Kopite in the 60s and I think wanted to remember Shanks. I was a little kid, we were in the paddock. The main things I remember are the disrupted silence and Bob Latchford scoring for them.
What a coincidence. This was my first attendance at Anfield. I’d just turned 11 so I think it must have been a birthday treat. My dad being from Swansea was likely another motivation…
Alex TW Yeah. Time flying is rather depressing, I think. I had connections to both teams as I was brought up in Liverpool and LFC has always been my team, but my uncle had played for Swansea as a centre half in the 1950s. Somewhat strangely, he collapsed and died after attending a big-scoring affair across the Park back in 2012. I think it must have been the 4-0 Everton v Fulham match. The family were shocked but somehow I think it’s fitting that his life was bookended by the beautiful game.
Remember this, was on the kop which was jam packed, shankly died on the weds and the kop sang shankly's name throughout, Swansea played like real madrid and should have been 4-0 up before we came back to get a draw
I had the same thought! I have seen pitches in the lower leagues from that era with hardly had a blade of grass on them! Nowadays first class pitches are like putting greens on a golf course and many lower league clubs have modern 5G surfaces.
Looking back at this game, how different it would have ended up in todays rules, I support LFC in the boys pen 1964 , Liverpool got a dodgy pen when Di Davies got the ball clearly, but he should have been sent off for kicking Mc Dermott, but the offside goal by Kenny was well on side and so was Johnson at the first pass by Sammy Lee. Also this game had two ex Everton Players and two ex Liverpool Players, for Everton Latchford and Di Davies, and Liverpool Max Thompson, and Colin Irvine. RIP Shanks, Paisley, Fagan, Moran, Houllier YNWA and we go one.
Wow. Haven't seen this for ages! I was there, should have been in the Swansea end but hundreds of us were locked out, eventually ended up getting in late in the stand because a crazy and lovely old lady gave me a Season Ticket voucher as she couldn't face the crush! True story. Hell of a game and drama but I'm still doubtful about the second penalty.
He's just paying respect to a manager he played under & a great one, & if a bunch of idiots can't understand that, then they are no football fans & with zero empathy. Proper football fans appreciated Toshack's heartfelt tribute.
I can remember Swansea City No2 Phil Boersma saying many years latter that Toshacks act was (rightly or wrongly?) viewed by many in Liverpool as a blatant attempt to exploit the occasion i.e. a clever way of putting his name forward for the future Liverpool managerial job after Bob Paisley had left, because he was soon to retire. Of course Toshacks miraculous success at Swansea and the fact that he was very young for a manager, did indeed create a lot of speculation about that very subject even before that particular game itself. The gist about it all was that Toshacks display was seen by some as the total opposite of the "Liverpool way" to act. The Liverpool/Anfield "boot room" team were the total opposite i.e. under the radar, quiet, dignified, modest and more self publicity passive in their approach to matters preferring the 'grey man' approach. In the opinion of some Toshacks display at Anfield was an absolute disastrous own-goal that ruined his future managerial chance(s). I know that many Swansea supporters were extremely upset and also thought that the shirt wearing was a pre-vacancy job application ruse. A case of putting his name into the hat very early on! Of course there is also the opinion that he was just showing a justifiable loving tribute to a legendary manager of whom Shankly's disciple Toshack was extremely devoted to, and of whom he had learnt many lessons off, those very lessons of which attributed to Toshacks own personal success.
The days when football was fun , yes stadiums and sometimes the quality of play was lousy but there was something special about it. Maybe nowadays we get to much football that it’s no longer as memorable. When I was younger if you had said you could have football 24/7 like we do now I’d have loved it but in reality it becomes less enjoyable.
A valid comment.... Even a simple thing such as the replica shirt was worth something to the fan, because they were current for more than one season. This particular Liverpool shirt lasted from the 1976-77 season until around 1982-83. Now, you get it new in August and it will be expired in 10months. £6 a month seems a less of a bargain than £40 for 2 years.
I was 17 in the kemyln rd...Swansea brought a big mob...and I remember a few got in the kop and i remember them walking passed me covered in blood after getting a good hiding....but respect they turned up unlike loads of so called top mobs of that time....!!!
Gutted that Swansea just pipped Blackburn Rovers for promotion o the last day of the 80-81 season but they gave the scousers a run for their money in thus game.
@@chesteryoutubeactorsclub Not certain. I was wondering myself. Paisley dismissed the 1983 trophy presentation as 'palaver' and wanted to 'get it over with'. So the club was very unassuming back then. Maybe in the club's opinion Toshack made this day about him and not Shanks. The gladiator running to the Kop at the end was a bit over the top.
It was well known that Shankly wanted Toshack to be a future Liverpool manager..It was reported that he told Tosh to go learn the trade at Swansea for a couple of years and then the Liverpool job was his. Strange the way it didn't happen. He was good manager.......good enough for Real Madrid. I remember bunking off school and going to see them train (the gates were open during term time) ... Toshack was training by himself with a Wales trackie top. It seemed odd. Another time I went and was talking to Ray Kennedy......I asked him why the other players called him Razor...... He replied with a wink " because I'm sharp" My 12 year old self was mighty impressed
@@meatismurder2862 exactly. The whole stupid "squad" number thing was purely a new way to get even more money from supporters. As for the OPs comments about advertising, it's noticeable that EPL sides have more adverts on sleeves etc now, just like French clubs have done for years. The simpler kits looked smart, unless it was a filthy pitch where the likes of Swansea or Leeds would leave a pitch mostly caked in brown mud....
Gamesmanship at its best from Liverpool after the second pen. McDermott going down when Dai Davies hardly touched him. Souness and even Ronnie Moran trying to influence the referee in sending Davies off. People moan about the diving and antics of foreign players, but Liverpool were the best at it long before.
I remember Toshack taking his tracksuit top off to show the red shirt. 100% class act.
I remember the emotion during this game vividly. I was only 13 but I could still sense the huge atmosphere of loss. We were glad that this game was out of the way to be honest, so that we could get back to business.
For me, this season was one of the greatest championship winning seasons, because the team was practically being rebuilt and a few decent kids were coming through - including a young Ian Rush.
I was 11 in the Annie road end. Was a tense atmosphere I remember.
Swansea played some very good football that season. I especially liked Alan Curtis. a very good player.
Amazing upload. This was my first first-team game at Anfield having been to a couple of 'mini-derbies' beforehand. My dad had been a Kopite in the 60s and I think wanted to remember Shanks. I was a little kid, we were in the paddock. The main things I remember are the disrupted silence and Bob Latchford scoring for them.
What a coincidence. This was my first attendance at Anfield. I’d just turned 11 so I think it must have been a birthday treat. My dad being from Swansea was likely another motivation…
@@JMBluecoat8289 I was 11 too. How time flies!
Alex TW Yeah. Time flying is rather depressing, I think. I had connections to both teams as I was brought up in Liverpool and LFC has always been my team, but my uncle had played for Swansea as a centre half in the 1950s. Somewhat strangely, he collapsed and died after attending a big-scoring affair across the Park back in 2012. I think it must have been the 4-0 Everton v Fulham match. The family were shocked but somehow I think it’s fitting that his life was bookended by the beautiful game.
Totally unbiased commentary from the person who won a Commentators Competition
Ibwell Robling
Remember this, was on the kop which was jam packed, shankly died on the weds and the kop sang shankly's name throughout, Swansea played like real madrid and should have been 4-0 up before we came back to get a draw
The state of the pitch......one of the few advances that's been made in football has been the revolution in playing surfaces......
I had the same thought! I have seen pitches in the lower leagues from that era with hardly had a blade of grass on them! Nowadays first class pitches are like putting greens on a golf course and many lower league clubs have modern 5G surfaces.
A rare cameo by Kevin Sheedy in a Liverpool shirt.
I remember he played a full match against Birmingham City as well.
I was at Shrewsbury v Rotherham that day..Rotherham fans booed..Town fans were furious
Looking back at this game, how different it would have ended up in todays rules, I support LFC in the boys pen 1964 , Liverpool got a dodgy pen when Di Davies got the ball clearly, but he should have been sent off for kicking Mc Dermott, but the offside goal by Kenny was well on side and so was Johnson at the first pass by Sammy Lee.
Also this game had two ex Everton Players and two ex Liverpool Players, for Everton Latchford and Di Davies, and Liverpool Max Thompson, and Colin Irvine.
RIP Shanks, Paisley, Fagan, Moran, Houllier YNWA and we go one.
And Neil Robinson Everton and Dave Johnson once of Everton
@@juicysmollett255 Well spotted, it was amazing how many Everton and Liverpool old players went to Swansea or Tranmere.
I was 10 and the rozzers on horses were trying to separate crowds outside the Kop. Pretty scary stuff.
Max Thompson playing for Swansea. Liverpool's youngest ever player until Jack Robinson. Plus rare footage of Sheedy in red.
Ray Kennedy would play for Swansea in the return fixture.
Was that Kevin sheedy
Yes
Kevin Sheedy one of the few to have played for Liverpool, Everton & Newcastle in his career (Beardsley being another)
Wow. Haven't seen this for ages! I was there, should have been in the Swansea end but hundreds of us were locked out, eventually ended up getting in late in the stand because a crazy and lovely old lady gave me a Season Ticket voucher as she couldn't face the crush! True story. Hell of a game and drama but I'm still doubtful about the second penalty.
Are you joking it was a blatant dive
It was a nice touch big John in the Liverpool top but it wasn’t received well at Anfield apparently I don’t know why
Mixed response from Swansea too. Quite a few Swans thought he shouldn’t have worn the Liverpool top
He's just paying respect to a manager he played under & a great one, & if a bunch of idiots can't understand that, then they are no football fans & with zero empathy. Proper football fans appreciated Toshack's heartfelt tribute.
I can remember Swansea City No2 Phil Boersma saying many years latter that Toshacks act was (rightly or wrongly?) viewed by many in Liverpool as a blatant attempt to exploit the occasion i.e. a clever way of putting his name forward for the future Liverpool managerial job after Bob Paisley had left, because he was soon to retire.
Of course Toshacks miraculous success at Swansea and the fact that he was very young for a manager, did indeed create a lot of speculation about that very subject even before that particular game itself.
The gist about it all was that Toshacks display was seen by some as the total opposite of the "Liverpool way" to act.
The Liverpool/Anfield "boot room" team were the total opposite i.e. under the radar, quiet, dignified, modest and more self publicity passive in their approach to matters preferring the 'grey man' approach. In the opinion of some Toshacks display at Anfield was an absolute disastrous own-goal that ruined his future managerial chance(s).
I know that many Swansea supporters were extremely upset and also thought that the shirt wearing was a pre-vacancy job application ruse. A case of putting his name into the hat very early on! Of course there is also the opinion that he was just showing a justifiable loving tribute to a legendary manager of whom Shankly's disciple Toshack was extremely devoted to, and of whom he had learnt many lessons off, those very lessons of which attributed to Toshacks own personal success.
@seltae he was auditioning to try to be manager of lfc , bored went cool on him b9691
Great game 👍🏻
The days when football was fun , yes stadiums and sometimes the quality of play was lousy but there was something special about it. Maybe nowadays we get to much football that it’s no longer as memorable. When I was younger if you had said you could have football 24/7 like we do now I’d have loved it but in reality it becomes less enjoyable.
A valid comment....
Even a simple thing such as the replica shirt was worth something to the fan, because they were current for more than one season. This particular Liverpool shirt lasted from the 1976-77 season until around 1982-83. Now, you get it new in August and it will be expired in 10months. £6 a month seems a less of a bargain than £40 for 2 years.
I was born 15 days after this ynwa
A little known fact: Graham Souness was player pundit that day.
I was 17 in the kemyln rd...Swansea brought a big mob...and I remember a few got in the kop and i remember them walking passed me covered in blood after getting a good hiding....but respect they turned up unlike loads of so called top mobs of that time....!!!
'You never come to Anfield' we use sing at the aways
Gutted that Swansea just pipped Blackburn Rovers for promotion o the last day of the 80-81 season but they gave the scousers a run for their money in thus game.
Aye, because Preston f…… it up as our song goes COYB
I remember being in the kop chanting Paisley, but nothing else whatsoever, except the 2-2 scoreline.
Kennys goal was a mile on😂 must have thought he was back in the hoops with a decision like that.
The day Toshack lost any chance of becoming manager
Correct
Souness mentions in his book that he believes the club went sour on Toshack as a future manager after his 'red shirt' display here.
why would that be?
@@chesteryoutubeactorsclub Not certain. I was wondering myself. Paisley dismissed the 1983 trophy presentation as 'palaver' and wanted to 'get it over with'. So the club was very unassuming back then. Maybe in the club's opinion Toshack made this day about him and not Shanks. The gladiator running to the Kop at the end was a bit over the top.
@@randyborstol2491 maybe, but I'd have thought Swansea fans may have been a bit peed off
@@chesteryoutubeactorsclub I was.
It was well known that Shankly wanted Toshack to be a future Liverpool manager..It was reported that he told Tosh to go learn the trade at Swansea for a couple of years and then the Liverpool job was his.
Strange the way it didn't happen. He was good manager.......good enough for Real Madrid.
I remember bunking off school and going to see them train (the gates were open during term time) ...
Toshack was training by himself with a Wales trackie top. It seemed odd.
Another time I went and was talking to Ray Kennedy......I asked him why the other players called him Razor...... He replied with a wink
" because I'm sharp"
My 12 year old self was mighty impressed
Near the start is that Argentina what's it like to lose a war ? - if so a little strange
Falklands was a year after. What's the time of the song?
@@randyborstol2491 I must have been trippin mate - still worth watching again - happy dayzz - MUFC
F in scouses getting 2 Two penalties MY how times change - Mothers .
tripping again?
@@DaveWallerLFC yeah - Bad decision making by not just the Ref ( linesmen as well ) lol .
2nd one for Liverpool wasn't even a penalty..
Is that the Liverpool European champion, too?
Who's this Dollgleesh he speaks of?
The uniforms looks so barren without all the advertising. They don’t even have the players names on the back.
And notice: No starting player wore a number higher than 11-the one sub allowed(?) then wore 12.
@@2themoon863 right - because if you did have a number 12 people might think you have too many players on the pitch! Kidding - almost!
@@2themoon863
Yes no confusion back then.
@@meatismurder2862 exactly. The whole stupid "squad" number thing was purely a new way to get even more money from supporters.
As for the OPs comments about advertising, it's noticeable that EPL sides have more adverts on sleeves etc now, just like French clubs have done for years.
The simpler kits looked smart, unless it was a filthy pitch where the likes of Swansea or Leeds would leave a pitch mostly caked in brown mud....
Gamesmanship at its best from Liverpool after the second pen. McDermott going down when Dai Davies hardly touched him. Souness and even Ronnie Moran trying to influence the referee in sending Davies off. People moan about the diving and antics of foreign players, but Liverpool were the best at it long before.
Watch Davies' challenge again, and particularly his right foot. It's studs first into McDermott's knee, before he pushes him over.
2 dodgy penalties for liverpool at the kop end...some things never change do they. McDermott and Whelan the cheats this time.
How is the challenge on Whelan not a penalty?
Cameraman is dreadful
Last time he ever reffed.