Let me save you 15 minutes: It feels good and at an angle, the keyboard gives the mouse more space to move horizontally if you have one of those XXL mousepads.
I really enjoy content like this that gets down to the science of why people do certain things with their setup and settings. It helps me see different perspectives and different pros/cons of said setups.
Same, I'm closer to 20, I have always just naturally pushed my left side of the keyboard up and at a angle when I start gaming. Feels right for the wrist.
I've had a tilt for the last few years depending on my desk and how it is. It used to be tilted Up, left to right roughly 20 degrees when It was more comfortable. I now play at roughly a 35-45 degree angle angled Down left to right for comfort and mouse space.
@@MONKETR4X not only is that joke not funny, but when you use it so badly like that it becomes annoying. You don’t need to ask me by the way, I’ll give you this one for free.
"Gaining access to additional keys" can also happen by switching to esdf, or even rdfg if you have a long enough pinkey (oh, and it also adds keys to the left of your hand as well).
as a tilter is feels more comfortable having your forearm on my desk instead of my wrist and i like how my pinky is straight instead of the way of all my other fingers
I find that my key board tilts naturally as I play. I start of straight and as the session goes on my aggressive key clicks rotate it sideways. I find it comfortable.
i always tilt not crazy but enough that my fingers are more straight and less laying to the side it helps eliviate wrist pain and helps my key pushes to be more deliberate since i dont risk slipping up as much
It reduces the impingement of the tendons of your wrist, depending on the angle and the buttons being used. May also help reach certain buttons more easily.
As someone with tiny hands, keyboard tilt is so useful for getting access to more keys. I can very easily hold down W, Ctrl, Shift, etc. while also using my thumb to press 0 on the top row of number keys, or all the way down to M, L, and P. I can't play games that have lots of binds without being at a 45 degree angle at least anymore. It makes everything so much easier.
Doing a lot of research on how to be a better pc gamer and this definitely is a helper. I never even knew about this trick about tilting. Very helpful wow, you earned a like and a sub good work.
When you start grinding your favorite game, then you have to adjust the equipment. I used to play on work desk with a drawer. Today.... I put my mouse on another table with my arm on 90° angle and put my keyboard on my lap in order to prevent (or let's be honest delay) arm ache. When you are comfortable and settled with them, you follow those rules in higher levels too! Simple as that! Anybody want to add anything sure can. I'm open for a good conversation!
I remember when I first got my PC, my friend told me to try it and I was like, “Ah that’s stupid” but after playing for a while with my keyboard straight, it just straight up hurt my wrists like crazy after like an hour. And after titling it just a bit, not the crazy 90 degree angles, it relieved all my wrist pain
One of the main reasons why I tilt my keyboard is because I can fit more of my arm on the desk. It makes for a really comfortable posture because I don’t have to hunch my arm back. I use a 65% keyboard and play with it pretty close to my mousepad btw. So my arms are still pretty close together.
Dude I’m so glad you made this video. I was using the 45 tilted keyboard angle during my younger days, god now as I’m getting older, I’m suffering from shoulder blade pain and alignment problems. I constantly felt that my shoulders are imbalance, one of my shoulder is leaning more forward then the other. Because of the pain and discomfort, I am distracted from being able to fully focus on the game. For those 18 years old out there, you won’t feel it now but it will come and haunt you later!
I started tilting my keyboard when I saw that pro players were doing it. I didn't know what it did but I noticed that I was playing better and I was more comfortable. That's how the story went
I’m only 23 and my lower back is starting to hurt. Youngsters, please focus on your posture. Get a good chair, relax your shoulders, take a break, go for walks and strengthen your core
To me, tilting it that way hurt my wrist more. I tilt it the other way around (counter clockwise) and keep the keyboard far away from me to the right. Gives me plenty of space for the mouse!
Same, got a wrist rest (offtopic but wrist rest is a bad name for these, only my palm is touching it) and it is an extremely relaxed and comfortable way to play. Also got a slight lean back on my chair and haven't really had back pain while playing ever since (21, had bad posture for my entire life, it happens earlier than you think)
If you look at most modern ergo keyboards they all split the keyboard at B and tilt each side around 45 degrees, with the outer sides away from you. If you have your keyboard tilted -45 degrees you can relax your fingers entirely while on WASD without putting your wrist in an uncomfortable position. Any farther and you either have to flex your fingers or you have to turn your wrist. If you tilt your keyboard at a positive angle you are absolutely destroying your wrist no matter what angle it's at.
it's honestly just way more comfortable for me. I tend to have to focus more on the buttons I click whenever I set out my keyboard horizontally. Tilting it a bit just makes it easier to focus more on the game
Here's a quick sum up: Most do it because it feels good, and sometimes it can be better than a 0 degree angle. It gives more mouse space (obviously) and gives access to some keys (try pressing the letter I with you thumb, while your hand is on WASD. You have to tilt your entire hand to get to it. if you try when your keyboard it at 90 degrees, the space is much less. heck, i even use I in most games as emote, because its out of the way but easy to reach. and yes, I have my keyboard at 90 degrees, I've done it for as long as I can really remember[before i watched this video], its comfortable, keeps y posture good and I REALLY need the mouse space.) Have a good day!
so glad people (amd) appreciate Colten. dude's out here spitting facts literally all the time, and talks about all the nitty gritty. Appreciate you and your moustache dude
i feel comfortable when i rest my right foot to my chair or cross-legged while slightly tilting my keyboard to 5 deg. that way I can play fps and mmo for 13- 20 hours per day
Keyboard tilt reasons: • It feels good. • Space. • Makes me look like a pro/weird. • Big hands. • Can't be bothered to adjust keyboard. • Don't know what home keys are. • Sensitivity. • Makes it better to hold angles.
Ergonomics are important - as someone who's been playing PC shooters from age 18 to now 31 - trust me, I can attest. Plus I'm basically a physical therapist myself so I've seen the physical complaints. However, please don't blindly follow all advice you read online. You can try and adapt all the rules but if you're painfully uncomfortable doing so, you're not doing it right. One size does *not* fit all. You could think ''Oh, so I shouldn't rest my wrist on the mousepad, because carpal tunnel etc!'' and then proceed to basically, slightly lift your shoulder/arm a bit without you even knowing it, resulting in different issues. Just like the fact that if your desk is setup properly you can actually rest your arm just fine; the lower part of your underarm for instance, without overly stressing anything. But if you just write this to some online guru they'll tell you you're crazy and you shouldn't rest anything anywhere basically.
it started doing it while rehabbing from my broke wrist and it made it not hurt as much. i haven't gone back after a year and it isn't feels SOOOO much better
A German exchange student cut the top off of a gel mousepad and stuck his mouse on that. Insane sens because that is all he could fit on his desk back home.
*Me who's desk is so small that my laptop is on top of a book, against the wall, with my keyboard jammed up against it on the edge.* Yeah, I don't have room for this.
You mentioned that in the league of Legends scene someone might not have seen this before, but interestingly enough if you watch TSM Legends you would notice that TSM Spica actually does tilt his keyboard
The reason I tilt my keeb is because I play close to my table, like my chest is sandwiched by the table edge and my chair. If I play with the keyboard not tilted, I need to pull back my elbow tucking it to my side. This playing position would be uncomfortable on prolonged gaming sessions. But if the keyboard is tilted, I can like rest my elbow and arms comfortably on the table and it will not cause comfortability issues.
I’m not a big fan of leaning into the monitor. Actually, my “sweat lord” posture is actually me sitting up straight, back supported by my chair, and my keyboard is only tilted about 5-10 degrees. I mostly move my chair further into my table so that I can keep that 90-degree parallel-to-the-ground posture. Also I’m pretty damn sure this isn’t the first time but goddammit please keep using the Gura “A” and Ame hiccs more.
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Let me save you 15 minutes:
It feels good and at an angle, the keyboard gives the mouse more space to move horizontally if you have one of those XXL mousepads.
true MVP
god bless your soul
ran to the comments to search a comment like yours. thx
You save me 16mins. another min to type what you typed.
Dud why no one use office table anymore when Keyboard below and The mouse next to monitor
I really enjoy content like this that gets down to the science of why people do certain things with their setup and settings. It helps me see different perspectives and different pros/cons of said setups.
“Why do Pros Tilt?” Would’ve been a better clickbait title
Actually I was mislead lol. I thought the video was about “why pros tilt (trigger) each other”
My tilted keyboard now has coffee in it. Thanks.
@@m1ghtycs why so tilted
Ye
They need to hire you for some fresh titles.
I've seen a lot of these episodes, but this one was by far the best and most informative all around. Great job .
I started tilting my keyboard when playing because it feels good
Do you need a therapist?
I didnt tilt it as much but yeah, it just feels better
100% yesss
I'm just waiting for someone to tilt there keyboard 120 degrees and be backwards because why not.
@@sangerzonnvolt6712 That would be the worst idea you could think of
4:27 When the ambulance speed down the highway at 90 kmph
i use like 10-20 degrees because thats what is most comfortable for me, the desk space is a nice addition too
Same, I'm closer to 20, I have always just naturally pushed my left side of the keyboard up and at a angle when I start gaming. Feels right for the wrist.
Woah, so cool
I have a 5 degree but I don’t lean I have a good posture
Yeah I tried tilting after looking at this video and it is so relaxing for the wrist in comparison to no tilt.
Mine a bit more like 25-30 but yeah
I've had a tilt for the last few years depending on my desk and how it is. It used to be tilted Up, left to right roughly 20 degrees when It was more comfortable. I now play at roughly a 35-45 degree angle angled Down left to right for comfort and mouse space.
the ergonomics analysis - the part where they explain why the tilted keyboard is a benefit - is really interesting. Great job as always!
8:37 the Fate mousepad
man of culture
Part 23 of asking for: The Story of WarOwl
@@LozempRemastered grammar police : "closure"
@@felciajacintha6613 that’s a great comment, but I don’t remember asking ;)
@@MONKETR4X thats because i wasnt talking to you ;}
@@felciajacintha6613 that’s a great comment, but I don’t remember asking;)
@@MONKETR4X not only is that joke not funny, but when you use it so badly like that it becomes annoying.
You don’t need to ask me by the way, I’ll give you this one for free.
It's like those gamer marks or gamer thumbs, many are proud to have those but it really is an inflammation
Thats true i got mine and it started to hurt went to the doctor for it
1:48 I'm here for my Tenshi. *wipes tears* im proud of her.
ikr i was suprised too
the "A" too in the end lmao
i see tenshi, gura, ame, ???, and kizuna reference
@@deelow6546 I think that F* word at the end, right after Gura is Calli's trademark censoring
@@takodragoon1836 oh yeah it does sounds like it, thanks for pointing out
Man of culture
He’s got uto’s stream in the back
GGMen
It just feels more comfortable
Hooow
it’s kinda like how people tilt their notebooks so it’s easier to write
@@Abner-em6ov exactly
This whole series can be answered by that
It feels like you’re more focused when you tilt your keyboard
"Gaining access to additional keys" can also happen by switching to esdf, or even rdfg if you have a long enough pinkey (oh, and it also adds keys to the left of your hand as well).
Or ur like me and u used wasd on a azerty keyboard (zqsd on qwerty)
All the HoloMyth in an outro. F-word awesome!
i see tenshi, gura, ame, ???, and kizuna reference
Yknow honestly these two together are so entertaining to watch it somewhat makes it feel boring to watch the others on theScoresports
1:48 can we respect editor kun for being a genuine man of culture?
i realized it on 6:11
Editor is confirmed Tenshimp lol
Culture is a way of life.
I noticed it on 7:05 , my man is vtubing LOL
as a tilter is feels more comfortable having your forearm on my desk instead of my wrist and i like how my pinky is straight instead of the way of all my other fingers
"Sometimes, the keyboard is tilted, sometimes the player"
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I'm here to appreciate the cute Hololive EN noises at the end
Ah, I see you're of culture as well.
Editor dude is a massive hipster... But I enjoy their back and forth immensely.
agreed - their banter makes these hilarious.
I take issue with the word "hipster"... Boomer seems more apt.
Idk about u guys..but they both make me cringe so hard.. 😔
7:07 here for the Tenshi, stay for the content
Ayyy a fellow Tenshimp ... GGMen
no need to tilt keyboards when I'm already tilting so much from losing most of my games.
Why not both? 🤸
@@IqmalNazlan good thing keyboard not tilting right now or else he gonna smash you in front of monitor. Now think the other way around.
tilting keyboards isn't that comfortable for me
I honestly loved that " subscribe! " part
I find that my key board tilts naturally as I play. I start of straight and as the session goes on my aggressive key clicks rotate it sideways. I find it comfortable.
i always tilt not crazy but enough that my fingers are more straight and less laying to the side it helps eliviate wrist pain and helps my key pushes to be more deliberate since i dont risk slipping up as much
Dang truly a man Who enjoys vtubers 7:07
good to know you noticed it too 😭
who is that
It reduces the impingement of the tendons of your wrist, depending on the angle and the buttons being used. May also help reach certain buttons more easily.
As someone with tiny hands, keyboard tilt is so useful for getting access to more keys. I can very easily hold down W, Ctrl, Shift, etc. while also using my thumb to press 0 on the top row of number keys, or all the way down to M, L, and P.
I can't play games that have lots of binds without being at a 45 degree angle at least anymore. It makes everything so much easier.
Doing a lot of research on how to be a better pc gamer and this definitely is a helper. I never even knew about this trick about tilting. Very helpful wow, you earned a like and a sub good work.
When you start grinding your favorite game, then you have to adjust the equipment. I used to play on work desk with a drawer. Today.... I put my mouse on another table with my arm on 90° angle and put my keyboard on my lap in order to prevent (or let's be honest delay) arm ache. When you are comfortable and settled with them, you follow those rules in higher levels too! Simple as that! Anybody want to add anything sure can. I'm open for a good conversation!
"holding your keyboard like you're Gollum hoarding the precious"
My iced tea almost shot out of my nose
I remember when I first got my PC, my friend told me to try it and I was like, “Ah that’s stupid” but after playing for a while with my keyboard straight, it just straight up hurt my wrists like crazy after like an hour. And after titling it just a bit, not the crazy 90 degree angles, it relieved all my wrist pain
I tilt mine at round 45 degrees bc it feels better
Because keyboard is staggered, because typewriter invented in 1899.
@@05sjinx mine 35 or 40
It feels good
One of the main reasons why I tilt my keyboard is because I can fit more of my arm on the desk. It makes for a really comfortable posture because I don’t have to hunch my arm back. I use a 65% keyboard and play with it pretty close to my mousepad btw. So my arms are still pretty close together.
Dude I’m so glad you made this video. I was using the 45 tilted keyboard angle during my younger days, god now as I’m getting older, I’m suffering from shoulder blade pain and alignment problems. I constantly felt that my shoulders are imbalance, one of my shoulder is leaning more forward then the other. Because of the pain and discomfort, I am distracted from being able to fully focus on the game. For those 18 years old out there, you won’t feel it now but it will come and haunt you later!
Theres no way a tilted keyboard caused that. Maybe it has something to do with you slouching on a gaming chair for 12 hours a day
@@tedofuentes6525 tilted keyboard would cause it tho
@@tedofuentes6525 Lol it does, having your hand/shoulder on your mouse for a while leaning forwards will cause issues too
that Navi Edward pistol round was epic
"A" *Hic
Thats some cultured shit right there
6:03 I was like what happend to the key board tilting convo lmao
I started tilting my keyboard when I saw that pro players were doing it. I didn't know what it did but I noticed that I was playing better and I was more comfortable. That's how the story went
Ergonomics is one of the key facts that make controller a BETTER peripheral IMO since your hand's natural resting position is curved and not flat 😬
Simple answer they saw someone else do it, copied and now they’re used to it
+1 trying to be pros XD
Nah its just comfortable too
@@quetele3403 yeah because u got used to it it’s definitely not comfortable at first since your hand doesn’t naturally rest like that
@@jam7686 it is comfy i main controller and sometimes i play kbm and whenever i do it feels nicer to have the keyboard slanted
@@quetele3403 ok but be honest u saw someone do if first
Imagine doing this on a laptop.
I’m only 23 and my lower back is starting to hurt. Youngsters, please focus on your posture. Get a good chair, relax your shoulders, take a break, go for walks and strengthen your core
i play on a laptop. i find that if i want to see absolutely nothing, titling my keyboard helps a lot
To me, tilting it that way hurt my wrist more. I tilt it the other way around (counter clockwise) and keep the keyboard far away from me to the right.
Gives me plenty of space for the mouse!
For me its my desk thats small so i have to tilt it so i can flick consistently and not hit my keyboard
@@mrwhite9185 just build/buy another desk. Flea markets oftenly have some, or even check the dump and fix it up.
Reallyyy haha me also, I thought that only me playing like this 😂😂
Same, got a wrist rest (offtopic but wrist rest is a bad name for these, only my palm is touching it) and it is an extremely relaxed and comfortable way to play. Also got a slight lean back on my chair and haven't really had back pain while playing ever since (21, had bad posture for my entire life, it happens earlier than you think)
Lmaooo I wasn't expecting to hear an "A" at the end. If you know, you know xD
5:27 meanwhile, melty blood players had their tournament in the EVO hotel bathroom
If you look at most modern ergo keyboards they all split the keyboard at B and tilt each side around 45 degrees, with the outer sides away from you. If you have your keyboard tilted -45 degrees you can relax your fingers entirely while on WASD without putting your wrist in an uncomfortable position. Any farther and you either have to flex your fingers or you have to turn your wrist. If you tilt your keyboard at a positive angle you are absolutely destroying your wrist no matter what angle it's at.
Never though anyone would need a 16 minute video on why someone tilts a keyboard :/
"Holding your keyboard like you're gollum holding the precious" AJAJAJAJJAJAJAJ ME PARTO
Because companies refuse to make “ergonomic” gaming keyboards.
„Lack of space“
Imagine there were cut off keyboards only for the left hand….
This is BY FAR the best series in the channel. Colton is amazing, and Dimitri is great as always!
For me personally I feel so relax. It doesnt stretch your muscle that much cuz its in natural position
it's honestly just way more comfortable for me. I tend to have to focus more on the buttons I click whenever I set out my keyboard horizontally. Tilting it a bit just makes it easier to focus more on the game
Here's a quick sum up:
Most do it because it feels good, and sometimes it can be better than a 0 degree angle. It gives more mouse space (obviously) and gives access to some keys (try pressing the letter I with you thumb, while your hand is on WASD. You have to tilt your entire hand to get to it. if you try when your keyboard it at 90 degrees, the space is much less. heck, i even use I in most games as emote, because its out of the way but easy to reach. and yes, I have my keyboard at 90 degrees, I've done it for as long as I can really remember[before i watched this video], its comfortable, keeps y posture good and I REALLY need the mouse space.)
Have a good day!
so glad people (amd) appreciate Colten. dude's out here spitting facts literally all the time, and talks about all the nitty gritty. Appreciate you and your moustache dude
Thanks! To be entirely fair it is most definitely a team effort and I can't take full credit for my truth spitting, but I'm glad people enjoy it :D
@@theScore_Colten haha i know, i'm sure there are (other?) writers involved too. i do like the back and forth though
I really thought I was gonna see a Symfuhny clip in here. Man's W key is literally pointing towards his chest
6:20 Tenshimp!
GGMen
Zeus is an OG space saver. Tucks his keyboard under his arm and places the mouse behind the screen.
My gaming keypad that I sell on my etsy page, solves all of this and greatly improves it
Giving you 5 buttons for your thumb alone is amazing and I love mine :)
Shhh be quiet... people will want them lol.
me: *tilts it about 23.2 degrees clockwise*
my gameplay: *Rip and Tear, until it is done*
anyone notice the vtuber in the back at 7:20. Can't tell who that is but you should tell me :)
@@moonlight.9898 ^^ This guy gets it GGMen
When you tilt your keyboard and feel like you're ready to join e sports
i used to play 90 degree but in longer sessions it began rotating even more to the point where i was plaiyng 100 degree
Your elbow ok bro?
I can't believe I sat through 15 minutes of this video not bored and not entertained but just existed.
i feel comfortable when i rest my right foot to my chair or cross-legged while slightly tilting my keyboard to 5 deg. that way I can play fps and mmo for 13- 20 hours per day
How tf do you have time to play for 13-20 hours a day and dont u feel like you should sleep
Colten do be cultured tho. Playing Uto's stream in the background
Cultured indeed ;)
"up hill, both ways, and it was snowing". heard that so much growing up from my filipino parents
Why do pros tilt their keyboards?
Video: *16 minutes*
Me: Because it's more comfortable
The banter between the host and the editor kills me every time xd
9:23 the guy is playing cs with the arrow keys 😂😂
Me using a laptop: Ah yes, very relatable.
AMD throwing money at Dimitri getting shittalked is the highlight of my day.
Keyboard tilt reasons:
• It feels good.
• Space.
• Makes me look like a pro/weird.
• Big hands.
• Can't be bothered to adjust keyboard.
• Don't know what home keys are.
• Sensitivity.
• Makes it better to hold angles.
Ergonomics are important - as someone who's been playing PC shooters from age 18 to now 31 - trust me, I can attest. Plus I'm basically a physical therapist myself so I've seen the physical complaints. However, please don't blindly follow all advice you read online. You can try and adapt all the rules but if you're painfully uncomfortable doing so, you're not doing it right. One size does *not* fit all. You could think ''Oh, so I shouldn't rest my wrist on the mousepad, because carpal tunnel etc!'' and then proceed to basically, slightly lift your shoulder/arm a bit without you even knowing it, resulting in different issues. Just like the fact that if your desk is setup properly you can actually rest your arm just fine; the lower part of your underarm for instance, without overly stressing anything. But if you just write this to some online guru they'll tell you you're crazy and you shouldn't rest anything anywhere basically.
it started doing it while rehabbing from my broke wrist and it made it not hurt as much. i haven't gone back after a year and it isn't feels SOOOO much better
The only way you could play with small desks and huge CRTs in early 2000's. Cooller was even using his laps for keyboard sometimes.
Keep the Colten Dimitri banter!!
A German exchange student cut the top off of a gel mousepad and stuck his mouse on that. Insane sens because that is all he could fit on his desk back home.
It’s all preference .. saved you guys time
MLFAO THE VTUBER IN THE BAGROUND OF THE GUY WITH THE MUSTACHE LOL
Number 1 reason for me why I tilt my KB is for Comfort. Normal position hurts my wrist and fingers when gaming in longer hours.
i mean putting the keyboard to an angle is like sitting close to your table and you hand sitting on it naturally
*Me who's desk is so small that my laptop is on top of a book, against the wall, with my keyboard jammed up against it on the edge.* Yeah, I don't have room for this.
Can't wait to start seeing an upside down keyboard configuration
You mentioned that in the league of Legends scene someone might not have seen this before, but interestingly enough if you watch TSM Legends you would notice that TSM Spica actually does tilt his keyboard
the reason why it is more comfortable is because your elbow can rest on the desk.
a hanging elbow for many hours is exhausting.
Am I the only one who noticed the Holomyth members as the censor bleep at the end? I don't see anyone mention it...
The reason I tilt my keeb is because I play close to my table, like my chest is sandwiched by the table edge and my chair. If I play with the keyboard not tilted, I need to pull back my elbow tucking it to my side. This playing position would be uncomfortable on prolonged gaming sessions. But if the keyboard is tilted, I can like rest my elbow and arms comfortably on the table and it will not cause comfortability issues.
They’re prepared to commit harakiri with their keyboard at any given tilter moment
6:25 at the right monitor: Man of culture
anyone else notice the tilt on that guys mustache?
I’m not a big fan of leaning into the monitor. Actually, my “sweat lord” posture is actually me sitting up straight, back supported by my chair, and my keyboard is only tilted about 5-10 degrees. I mostly move my chair further into my table so that I can keep that 90-degree parallel-to-the-ground posture.
Also I’m pretty damn sure this isn’t the first time but goddammit please keep using the Gura “A” and Ame hiccs more.
1) So my mouse doesnt hit keyboard
2) More relaxed for my hand
3) To feel like a pro
4) Small desks
dude its just comfortable
I rock the negative angles. I'm vibing.
This video is honestly 10 minutes longer than it needs to be.