Why Do Pros Sit So Close to Their Screens? (Valorant)
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Today I explain why pros sit so close to their monitors, the benefits they get from it, ergonomic setups, and I even try it myself! Today Valorant revealed the new hero Astra and I can hardly wait to do a video on her next! You might learn a thing or two now on how to aim better position better etc. Like and subscribe!
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Wow. As an eye care professional, graduating optometry school in a few short months, I am glad to hear that you have actually done your research. Yes, most of the discomfort that comes from staring at screens stems solely from how dry your eyes get. There is virtually zero affect on long term health risks to your eyes outside of dryness. Albiet, dry eye is one of the more prevalent eye conditions that plagues people with about 80% of the population falling to a diagnosis of Dry Eye, but only feeling the effects of dry eye when the symptoms and the condition are progressed to a severe state. The breaks that you talked about are what we like to call the 20-20-20 Rule. For every 20 minutes of screen time, look 20 feet away for 20 seconds. Practicing good visual hygiene as the academics call it is what can bring you that edge when it comes to your vision and not having it be a hinderance to performance. Other issues such as focusing and double vision should be reserved for visits to your eye care professional, such as an optometrist.
And as I was finishing the video, your comment about feeling "nearsighted now" is called accommodative spasm which can happen when you are doing near vision work for an extended and prolonged period of time. You can maybe circumvent this by wearing cheap over-the-counter reading glasses, but it will be trial and error, hit or miss.
Everything you said was super awesome and helpful and thank you SO MUCH for this info! I need to figure out how i can include this in a video some how as an update. I was really unsure with everything I was reading on IF long term health risks existed so I was ambiguous about it and am glad you could verify that!! Thank you again for viewing and the info!!
how's your rama board?
@@spyeo only have a macropad, and it’s a nice artisan holder c:
Wow so i will not going blind or myopic even i do that? Thanks for saying that, so even online class, online assignment and online homework making me stare to the screen all the time and i worried my vision will be blury rest of my life...
Benefits of Vision are temporary.
Glory of Skins and High Elo are eternal.
Im DYING
@@urnotjustin so are your eyes after those valorant matches i presume.
SO OUR GOOD VISION ISN'T FOREVER AND EVERLASTING ? is that what your trying to say ?
@@breath9235 it’s a joke bro get some humour
@@Mygolly915 Bro I know it's a jwk im just asking a serious question if it's everlasting or not... don't jump to conclusions
MAH BOI
we found the video at about the same time. made for each other👉👈
Sus
@RENOB Abhi on everything i am just now seeing it LMAO i check my comments like a mad man and it some how got through without me seeing it
Big fan 🔥🔥
Mah boy noted with a zero sheesh
"The health risks of sitting 6 inches from ur monitor" well there is the part where ur EYES FUCKING DIE. But the good part is you get that radiant in no time, oh and when Anyone flashes you... oh amigo you see jesus
when u sit that close flashes stop working eventually lmao
HAHAHAHA im screaming lmaooo
@@urnotjustin neither does anything else
If I cant smell my tv I cant aim
LOLLL
If i cant smell the pixels i can't win
Vision is temporary, getting above gold is necessary
indeed
😌
I have the same motto but its kind of different, “vision is temporary, getting out of iron is necessary”
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That's why I use glasses
does above iron2 counts?
Wow. I tried sitting close to my monitor about 6inches away and I can already notice a lot of changes in my game. From silver 3 to massive headache.
Edit: after days of getting used to this kind of setup, I am now comfortable with the headache.
LMAOOO
lol
It looks so pixelated like minecraft
This is by far the funniest comment I've come across in RUclips, I choked
legendary edit.
they take the "first person" in fps too seriously
Works for some not others!
drain
@@krayee draiiiin gaaaang
so drained
trash island draing ganggggggggggg
these casuals, i sew my eyes to my monitor.
I play with my phone in one of those phone holder-goggle things so all i can see is my screen
@@urnotjustin i plug the hdmi cord into my forehead and stream it directly to my dreams. no latency
@@jammbo8663 dying
@@urnotjustin you can't handle the jammbo, justin. in fact, i've already beaten you in valorant plenty of times. but you don't know that yet, because the games haven't happened. i AM valorant. all the servers, headshots, matches, and tournaments run off my brain power. that's right, all of it is OFF THE DOME. to you, i am a god. to me, you are already defeated.
@@jammbo8663 what
meanwhile there's me trying to see someone peeking on my 14" laptop screen with 3 square inches of mouse space
its ok this video caused ppl to mousepad shame me 😔
urnotjustin lmao what’s ur sens to play with such a small mousepad? just curious
I used to watch noted back when he played siege. It’s amazing to see how far he’s come
Imagine not playing in vr lmao cringe
LOLOL
true but oculus quest > steam index
@@mrzimdjecu the fact that ur saying steam index tells me enough lol
@@shadowcodes2546 lmao refreshrate for the winn, if i could afford it :(
I saw this video and decided to try it out.
I only had my monitor close to me while gaming. And oh boy did it help. I am not joking, I was able to consistently hit sprays, microshots etc. Within 3 days of playing with my monitor close to me. Advice everyone to remind yourself to blink once you die or are in the buy phase
Awesome im glad ur popping off! take care of ur eyes and game on!
Did it not feel weird at firs it feels weird for me
I'm just finished my second year of animation in college and I need to get new glasses soon.
Huge feat!! hope ur eyes can stay healthy long enough to get something awesome out
i change my glasses (not the frame) every year because myopia on my eyes increases. i played a lot of video games for about 7-10days like 10 hours a day and now myopia increased so much for only 7-10 days.
The bigger question is why that sage didn't die from the first headshot from the vandal
1:22 Noted's teacher?
Speaking of ergonomics, it's nice to actually have the space to adjust your stuff. Many gamers dont have a choice and just work with that they got and that works too.
Very good point! Makes me wish i talked about that too. When i first started mg set up was with a walmart folding table and folding chair, i was about 3.5 feet from screen and a ton of leg room but no room to recline or push my chair back. I honestly think back fondly of those days a lot bc ergonomically im pretty set, but im 6’2” and miss the leg room. 😔
That text font most accurately describes what I would be seeing when I'm that close to a monitor
great video man 👍🏻 I actually had to see an eye doctor a month ago because i constantly had dry eyes and was just always tired all the time. He recommended to simply just sit 2 feet away and also some blue light blocking glasses and for someone who games about 6 hours a day i feel that i can actually go longer without having that dry burning feeling it gave me.
why do I have such bad vision?
also me:
lmao
i actually haven’t ever considered my gaming posture to be honest but when i used to play skyrim on pc i think i actually tended to sit a little bit too close to the screen (but that isn’t even an fps so it doesn’t rly correlate i suppose) bc my head and eyes would hurt afterwards sometimes. also i love my e-win gaming chair that i got with ur code justin 💖
Skyrim is a competitive game
Before I started playing Valorant I also used to play with my monitor far from my eyes. But transitioned with my monitor around 5 inches close to my face, but with it I got into a habit of regularly resting my eyes, as I continued to get eye strain (even before I switched to this setup).
A closer monitor just gave me a better sight on the pixels and more room for my arm and mousepad. (My posture for fps games is to have my whole arm resting in the table, and my table isn't that spacious, so I basically had my arm around the base of my monitor)
I see, so you were essentially hugging your monitor 😂
I always have to be like a foot or 2 away from whatever screen I'm playing on, otherwise I just feel sick bro. Unfortunately my gaming chair forces me to press my nose against my monitor so that I can smell the stale dorito dust and liquids splashed on it. I love my gaming chair so much bro.
Same when i first started yt my original setup had me back like 36 inches
Ik no one asked, but i personally play close to my monitor with 800x600 black bars on csgo as personally I find it comfortable but also helps me concentrate, having ADHD, i struggle a fair bit with concentration, so this just really helps me play comfortably and go concentrate better
Blinking: *Happens automatically*
Thinks about it: *Ah shit you've done it again*
You just reminded me now I have to blink manually. Whyy?
@@overexessivedestructiveres5665 Pain
One thing I feel with your test is that your crosshair may have felt out of wack because it IS. I know it comes down to personal preference, but not having even a single pixel of reference of where the middle of your crosshair is may be less distracting and allow you to see pixels in really niche scenarios but I think being able to see EXACTLY where it is at all times is a huge benefit, it eliminates any human error of mistaking where center actually is.
I'm actually also curious why your keyboard is tilted in the direction that most consider opposite
Honestly I thought this was self explained. Specially to those who have been gaming since they were young and would slowly get closer to the TV till their parents told them to sit back.
I personally found out that sitting this close could also help your slouching habits as you're not wanting to lean more forward. Could be just me, but I figured I'd throw this in.
1. Take a break atleast once a hour and focus on a long distance atleast 10m away from you. Do it for like a min or two every break. Helps your eyes to relax from close range focusing so you do not get "cramps" in your eyes.
2. Use moisturizing eyedrops
3. Have the right creen settings. Light, contrast, colours etc.. If your in a dark room, maybe you should block some blue light and use a warmer tone. Use rgb/a lamp behind your monitor.
4. Have a chat with an optician. a good idea is to have personalized glasses while playing
honestly bringing my monitor closer to my face actually improved my focus significantly but only a certain distance i could move my monitor closer, when i tried to bring even closer then before i did notice i was feeling not good, i had to look away from my monitor before the match started in valorant and my monitor brings off alot of heat and it really made me uncomfortable. so for me setting my monitor in a specific distance helps me pop off more
Very good video, informative, have the proper sources and has a conclusion. 10/10 justin
Thank you so much! I cant crank out bangers like this every time but i try to always be invested in everything i put up!
6:24 i thought my internet lag for a moment XD
Same
my preffered way of playing is duct taping the monitor to my face, laying on my bed instead of sitting and using wii contollers to play. my rank is radiant 3 btw
Alternative title: Why is urnotjustin's mousepad so small?
reminder: if you get headaches very quickly/easily try adjusting the night light on windows settings in display and it should help. I used to have throbbing headaches from playing just 2-3 hours and it helped a lot.
I have a hard time getting my eyes to focus after moving them quickly. They do focus, but very slowly. So for competitive games, I keep my monitor further away, so I have the majority of it in my vision at all times so I don't have to move my eyes as much.
For single player games however, I do bring it closer so I can get more detail and help fill my field of vision so I can immerse myself better.
For competitive games, I also have to have the surface my keyboard and mouse is on as level with my chairs armrest as possible.
maybe try a smaller monitor but bring it closer?
Yeah idk if you are on a 24 inch monitor but definitely consider that. Also watch ron rambo kims video on how's pros sit. Really informative consider buying a larger desk and a zowie monitor. The larger desk will allow you to rest the while arm including the elbow on the desk and the zowie has dyac which is really pleasant on the eyes.
Ive been wearing glasses for 12 years and at some point tried out contact lenses, i'd like to say that if you wear contact lenses, your eyes will strain less and they will be more hydrated when playing, because the contact itself has to be hydrated, as for the glasses i have everything possible to protect the eye in the glass itself but it still gives me high headaches because i also play rhythm games,FPS games,MOBAs and MMOs. The one that obviously gives the most strain are the Rhythm and FPS games because you are required to put in all of your focus into them and blink less, i used to game in the dark but i started turning on a little light to balance out the light in the room and you should also open the window for more air obviously, i dont think that sitting close to your monitor will make you a better player, it literally all comes down to personal preference and what works for others the best.
when i tried putting my monitor that close, i instantly noticed a difference. I was hitting my shots more and i started getting more headshots. After every match i take a break bc obivously it isnt good for your eyes. Made me a god tho lol
Read pinned comment thats awesome to hear tho! But you can def play that way AND take care of your eyes!
As a Guardian main, it's important for me to sit close to my monitor so I can see every pixel. Because if the first shot doesn't headshot them I'm in a pretty bad spot.
LOVE the guardian, its honestly really slept on
°Д°
yooo another fellow guardian main
I feel like you need to get used to it for any advantages to be noted. However, the research was very well done and presented in a very pog manner.
Thank you! :D
I always sat close to the screen for similar reasons as pros (except I'm garbage at games) but in casual matches I chill leaning back. Took me a while, but I noticed I do a little better. Only a little bit, but I definitely feel it. Kinda cool, glad I found this video about it.
Awesome to hear!!
Its actually not about noted close to the screen is probably his gaming chair
An easy fix would be to witch from 24" FullHD display to 27" FullHD display. Yes, the image quality is "worse" because of lower PPI but you can sit further away to get the same result of sitting closer to the 24" FullHD display (to see pixels bigger/better)
Man oh man I cannot stress enough how good EWIN GAMING CHAIRS are. I got my chair for my birthday last year, and I have been sitting in it ever since. My ewin GAMING CHAIR changed my life, my dog died around Christmas, but fear not, my ewin GAMING CHAIR brought him back to life. Was diagnosed with testicular cancer, but sitting in my Ewin GAMING CHAIR long enough cured it. A girl saw my ewin GAMING CHAIR and actually considered sleeping with me! Gaming chairs are the best and they have changed my life!
9/10, they're ok I guess
LMAOOOO copy pasta material
8:44 hurt my soul. great video dude :)
I don't understand how people can play so close to the screen and not have their eyes burn, when you sit so close to your screen your eyes move more and it just hurts over time, sitting a little farther away so that everything is in your pereferal vision makes your eyes move less and strains your eyes less aswell.
its like having a sharigan u lose ur eye sight at one point lol
Trading eyes like pokemon cards
Honestly this video was exactly what I needed. Excellent stuff you earned a sub
I appreciate that! Thank you for watching this video is a favorite for sure from me
It's because valorant is a game of pixels, who can adjust more precisely, the better the monitor and the closer you are the more you have a chance to see the pixels
Is that ape escape 3 music. MAN OF CLASS
I like how you showed a clip fo someone getting flashed when you started talking about eye strain.
So I am an Immortal player, so not pro or anything but I'm pretty good I'd say, and a tip I have for people who wanna try playing closer to your monitor is to use your monitor setting to artificially shrink your monitor so that you don't have to move your eyes as much, and personally that has helped me with the eye strain caused by moving my eyes so much and has helped with tunnel visioning.
How to do that
Long range fights is where you really notice , the only map I know where there are huge range duels is dust 2 in CSGO , because of the distance everything is so small you feel the need to get closer.
Get a gaming chair that can lean all the way back and play like that, Laying down to play is a 10/10 pro strat. Highly recommend.
laying down on ur stomach
@@urnotjustin Its how you achieve peak performance
Very interesting video! Dip in performance can just be attributed to not being used to being so close to your screen.
just getting used to your own settings and not flip flopping between different resolutions, graphics settings, crosshairs, sensitivities, etc. is by far the most important to build muscle memory and consistency.
That's what i think anyways, i personally sit in a very ergonomic position, right angle legs, monitor an arm's length away and looking straight ahead my eyes meet the top of my monitor.
Additional note, i highly advocate for lights on while gaming. I used to have dry eye and eye fatigue but it has gone away as i told myself to take breaks, etc. No need for blue light glasses, just have a nice desklamp, remember to blink, and use eye drops if necessary :)
Gaming chairs are more of a gimmick and ergonomic ones will probably benefit you way more in terms of health, posture, and gaming performance.
If you know, you know.
my monitor is relatively close since my desk is a small desk but i like it close since it helps me focus better and that its feels like your actually in the game which also helps me focus more.
So first off I have a crazy gaming chair, luxurious leather seating. Anyway, I used to have the exact same issue, feeling like pros use close monitor so I should but playing better with the monitor far. But every time I switched back eventually I wanted to go back to close more and although it feels more uncomfortable it became natural I could really be immersed and see things I could never before. So I got used to it, but now my hands are uncomfortable under my monitor but my gameplay has gotten so much better. Idk it screws with me now too like after screens I get nearsighted but if I move my monitor I can't help but look at the background of peripheral things from peripheral vision. Its like for me I got better after getting used to close monitor but overall affected comfort, but if I choose comfort I constantly hit this skill ceiling and lose the ability to frequently be hitting transient hypofrontality or (extreme focus where time dilates and slows)
Edit: Like even now when using my 13' MacBook my screen feels far, when it is a good distance from my face. But after about an hour of use I get used to it and it feels like my monitor is close again. So odd
Thats just my experience tho
i deadass don’t get why you had to mention you have a “crazy luxurious gaming chair” though. insecure ?
The one pixel on A site split is a great example, there is one pixel perfect shot where you can shoot through. It's on the boxes
You know why I have eye strain from Val? Be cause of the damn flashbangs.
He's trying to get a screen tan
lolol
For games like osu! I play more like 3:45 to be more comfortable but less exaggerated. For FPS, I sit slightly closer to the monitor. I also like to have everything else out of my prereferral vision or at least in an organized way. (Yes I used to have OCD but it's a lot more controllable now) I think this type of stuff also applies for mouse sensitivity. All preference.
I relate and agree! For fps im pretty even in posture and positioning but for more laid back games i kinda like a nice slight recline.
that litterly awsers so many of my questions THXS
"Real photo of my doctor" *Shows DR DRE*
My dad is a eye doctor and he always tells me that looking at my phone too close to my face can cause long term damage (nearsighted). I would imagine that the same would go for monitors.
I am not a "pro" whatever that means but I can tell you playing at a high level its easier to hit the headshots when you can actually see the crosshair.
If you want to nail headshots you need a really small precise crosshair , I myself do the smallest dot possible and I have a huge TV screen which is more comfortable than sitting with a monitor 2 inches from your face.
The pros response is actually more detailed, I now watched the video, its true the micro adjusting to the head is easier and doable because you can see the head and the crosshair as if you were sitting further away it would be extremely hard uncomfortable and a guessing game . Micro adjusting was the word I was looking for.
Dude.... is that Tekken music? If so, you definitely unlocked a memory my man 🥺
Yup!
I have myopia and its so bad that even if something is only a ruler away it becomes blurry. I once had to play without my glasses because they were being repaired and i had to sit close like this to my monitor compaired to how i usually sit far away (kinda like the guy you showed laying down on his chair) and during that i realised that i was able to make small adjustments better and notice things better which helped me alot because i use low res and also was using chamber at the time so which helped me hit 1 taps better and do 2x better than i used to. After that game i got my glasses and played another with it and how i usually sit and it ended up with my usual performance.
It's weird how i just sat very close to the monitor for the first time in my life and this video comes up, man how does google even know that!
6:33 i'm more impressed how your mousepad is tiny small, mine is Extra Huge and i'm using it all
Awesome vid. Didn't sugar coat it. It would have been cool to hear from a pro or two about why they do it...but you most likely didn't have the pull to get their attention. Thank you!
Im an imo player and i can confirm that we sit so close to the screen because it gives us more game sense and so we can see the fast peeks
sitting closer has nothing to do with game sense lol
Sometimes i feel like i stop breathing a whole round without realizing it but i still dont know if i do it or not
Think that example at 2:00 is a really good example. If valorant didn't have red outlines and characters that person behind the box would have been much harder to spot.
Noted is my favorite
SAME
Not to miss a pixel...
4K screens: "Hold my pixel"
the best wayy to fix your eyes is to either have a cool monitor than has a blue filter or use glasses that remove blue light trust me they are very good they have a tiny zoom so its like having it close to u
This may explain people's preference over vr where some likes it and some dont because its nauseating since the pov is too close
Could very well correlate!
i tried sitting face to face with the monitor , saw alot of improvements , went from silver 1 to plastic 2 , my brain is not anymore ,my eyes are done for , headaches are in head, no recomend
Ngl there have been moments where I glance at my map for a single micro second next thing u know I don’t notice a skye standing in front of me in the middle of the open
2:20 i was able to see even i tho i am lying on my chair maybe because is a very common spot in gold/plat elo.
I'm near sighted sooooo... I'm bout to fuck up my eyes more
I've been actually playing like this since i even started playing fps games like csgo and its mostly because i have always watched streamers like s1mple and more pro csgo players and i really just wanted to try it out so when i first got my pc then i just started playing like this and now when i try to play normally i usually dont get as much kills coz i really focused when i am close to my monitor and helps me play and not miss a single pixel
I have migraine just watching them play that close.
5:51 is my favourite clip
smh its to smell the enemies
I am You are not Justine XD
good intro
Because they’re on 24” monitors, this is due to that size being predominant in pro tournaments. That’s literally the only reason. If you play on a 27” monitor or larger, you can sit a little further back and get the same effect
Interesting! Never thought about monitor size in a tournament setting
i mean, why dont they just get bigger monitor...sitting close to monitor are the same as looking at bigger screen, same field of view, same clarity
This reminds me of CS:GO posture check
Not to mention we all throw the 20-20-20 out the window
my preferred way of my monitor is an arms length and half of another arm
my man said walk outside i have been in my room for 3 months i shall not move
I struggle to play with my monitor to close. Yes I see the advantage in terms of not missing pixels and making micro adjustments but I also see the disadvantage of not being able to check your minimap at a casual glance. I feel like at a healthy distance I have a perfect balance between keeping 1 eye on my gameplay and 1 eye on my minimap at any given time. If my monitor is to close I feel like I have to take to much of my vision off of the action to check the minimap 🤷♂️ anyone else get this?
In order to see the screen , you have to be the screen .
Sun tzu , The art of war.
Are you using a VG248QE Asus monitor? Btw. I had all the symptoms you mentioned about eye strains and I don't know why I am still not blind
i've tried this once and like noted said he doesnt see his killfeed i was more distracted by being paranoid that someone is on my screen on the side (kinda around where the killfeed is) and i simply miss this person because i cant even see the whole monitor anymore
Yeah, I don't miss any pixels near the center of my screen but I miss literally everything else. It's so hard to see the rest of the screen when you're that close to the monitor.
thanks for the video! i liked it
I mean this is cool and all....great video.....but why is your mousepad so small?
Idk how many people know this but noted also used to be a rainbow six pro player and youtuber