They seem at least as reliable as compression fittings, but seem no easier to remove than soldered - you'd need to cut the fitting carefully and pry it away from the pipe
Not looking forward to buying one of these but it has it's benefits... just $1500 is expensive just to use once in a while in difficult or questionable areas
@@ekfliu exactly..,. I'm a remodel contractor...I don't do large pipe normally... plus I don't do commercial buildings that regulate soldering.... but once in a while.... something like this would make a difference between 30 minutes and 2 hours...
I get mine in tight places every day. It's more of using it in places where you're close to a wall. Then you need the close quarters jaw so it's another 1800.
@@-agent-47-80 you can go to a supply house most of the time and they usually have a loaner you can borrow or rent for the day to make your repair so you don't really need to buy the tool just buy your fittings from the same supplier so you can get the tool when you need it.
Fun fact: Viega has a green dot (on the copper fittings) if the dot burst and is no longer a circle the press is correct. Still have a dot get the cutter out. I think mega has a yellow dot but could be mixing up the colors
Mega press has green and yellow. Yellow for gas, green for water. The green dot on copper is actually Viega Smart connect, they are designed to allow water or air out of the crimp isn’t made. Doesn’t indicate good or bad crimp
@@DynoMikeReviews that’s directly from the Viega rep. He was on the truck breaking everything down and he went into that right after using the depth gauge 🤷🏻♂️
@@DynoMikeReviews wasn’t saying you were wrong just saying what the dude showed us..also the Viega site breaks it down as the colors are for fitting identification. Green EPDM sealing element Yellow HNBR element White FKM sealing element Nothing about letting air or water out.
Finally sucked it up and got a press tool a few months ago. Honestly shouldn't have waited so long because the thing is awesome! It's great to be able to make a pretty solid joint with just the press of a button.
@@RogerWakefield We actually went with the cheaper Vevor 18v to try it out. The kit came with ½" - 2" jaws and 2 batteries for right at $1,000, no issues so far with just over 150 presses on it. I still do a fair bit of soldering though, nothing can replace a good ol' solder joint. But when you can't get the water all the way off it's a dream.
@@phillipe124 from what I've seen they seem to work just fine, some people say that the presses don't look as clean but they do hold pressure just fine. I actually just saw a hydraulic manual press tool the other day, probably makes it a lot easier on the installer if they were doing a lot of presses consecutively.
The other day while I was browsing lately I saw a manually operated version of this. It seems like it's a really bad idea to do it manually it would take a lot of strength
⚠️Can't help thinking that if the cut ends are not completely blunt and smooth, the o rings will get damaged during insertion. Plus I wouldn't sand the ends down, that's inviting tiny leaks
I saw reports online here on RUclips that press fittings are prone to micro leaks when used on type M copper, that it’s too thin. We just had a water heater replaced and low and behold some of the fittings have micro leaks, you can see a shiny water ring around the edge of the fitting. The plumber used leftover old pipe and I can tell it’s type M because of the red font. The leaks are so small that they don’t seem to drip, but it’s winter so the air is dry and the heater is running hard so maybe it’s evaporating, not sure what the case will be in the summer. It’s disconcerting and brings some truth to the reports I’m seeing. Have you heard about this?
@@masejames4906 in my case it’s definitely water. I’m able to wipe it away/soak it up with the corner of a piece of paper, and it ever so slowly comes back.
I just don’t trust a fitting with an o-ring! If they made that with a ring of solder inside and then you pressed it and soldered it I would trust it. I’ll stick to soldered copper and pex-A and Uponor expansion fittings.
Press fittings are incredibly reliable, just check the o-rings before you dry-fit everything to make sure you don't have any defective ones (one in a million)
Progress fittings are way more expensive then sweat fittings. Also the machine to the the pro press is expensive. You probably wouldn't use pro press fittings all the time because it will cost your company money. Here he is just doing a demonstration here, but pro press is worth it in certain scenarios.
🤔 Yeah, I am not a plumber, but I've done radiator repairs (on vintage cars) with a MAPP torch, flux and solder. I think I'll stick to the MAPP torch and the forbidden asbestos rag. 🤭
The ridgid has much more attachments and they have newer models , milwaukee is overall a better tool company but they are definitely behind in this field of tools
@@One-ik4pbcommercial and industrial HVAC here, i find low flow have no issues, but a coworker built a header for pumps out off 3" press. And 5 years later there is water stains at the fittings
Dont get it. Why does manufacturers dont put a dint right in a middle for a pipe to stop? You wont need to mark it and you will that that it cant get in any further meaning the pipe is a full way in. 🤔
Propress is better when doing repairs to water lines that have water lines in them or passing valves. It's also much faster on certain jobs and applications. I keep hearing people say that the o-rings are bad but I haven't seen any proof anywhere of that.
@@AtomicBoyscout I'm not saying they don't hold in the short term. They're supposed to hold for at least 30 years or more. I don't think o-rings will hold up in the long term. I've always sweated copper pipe with silver bearing solder. I'm testing the waters with WAGO's for 110v electrical connections at the moment. I'm not even sure about those. I have o-rings fail all the time on other applications. I don't think they belong in permanent fixtures/applications. O-Rings tend to crack over a short period of time. Especially with heat. I don't trust it.
@@AtomicBoyscout I've seen people not wipe off the Flux and after a few years it starts eating the pipe. Also I've tried soldering when the pipe had water in it that I couldn't get put and had a difficult time.
@@mds6387 Wago's have a way higher fail rate than press fittings. The wagos are still pretty new where as the press has been around over 20 years in some places.
I would have figured that an old school plumber like yourself would never use anything that isn't soldered.
They seem at least as reliable as compression fittings, but seem no easier to remove than soldered - you'd need to cut the fitting carefully and pry it away from the pipe
Just a worse sharkbite
😂@@why6212
Not looking forward to buying one of these but it has it's benefits... just $1500 is expensive just to use once in a while in difficult or questionable areas
sucks for regular home owner, fitting cant be reused and pipe could be distorted. Gonna have to cut them out for route change.
@@ekfliu exactly..,. I'm a remodel contractor...I don't do large pipe normally... plus I don't do commercial buildings that regulate soldering.... but once in a while.... something like this would make a difference between 30 minutes and 2 hours...
You can hire them
I get mine in tight places every day. It's more of using it in places where you're close to a wall. Then you need the close quarters jaw so it's another 1800.
@@-agent-47-80 you can go to a supply house most of the time and they usually have a loaner you can borrow or rent for the day to make your repair so you don't really need to buy the tool just buy your fittings from the same supplier so you can get the tool when you need it.
I love pressing!
Fun fact: Viega has a green dot (on the copper fittings) if the dot burst and is no longer a circle the press is correct. Still have a dot get the cutter out. I think mega has a yellow dot but could be mixing up the colors
Mega press has green and yellow. Yellow for gas, green for water. The green dot on copper is actually Viega Smart connect, they are designed to allow water or air out of the crimp isn’t made. Doesn’t indicate good or bad crimp
@@DynoMikeReviews that’s directly from the Viega rep. He was on the truck breaking everything down and he went into that right after using the depth gauge 🤷🏻♂️
@@rhyscallen6915 Then my local Viega rep and the Viega website are misinformed
@@DynoMikeReviews wasn’t saying you were wrong just saying what the dude showed us..also the Viega site breaks it down as the colors are for fitting identification. Green EPDM sealing element Yellow HNBR element White FKM sealing element Nothing about letting air or water out.
Despite every manufacturer saying not to sand the pipe, they just can't help themselves... Every video
Emery cloth is not sand paper.
Finally sucked it up and got a press tool a few months ago. Honestly shouldn't have waited so long because the thing is awesome! It's great to be able to make a pretty solid joint with just the press of a button.
I love it too! Which one are you using? Has it totally replaced soldering for you?
@@RogerWakefield We actually went with the cheaper Vevor 18v to try it out. The kit came with ½" - 2" jaws and 2 batteries for right at $1,000, no issues so far with just over 150 presses on it. I still do a fair bit of soldering though, nothing can replace a good ol' solder joint. But when you can't get the water all the way off it's a dream.
Would you say the manual pressing tools are as effective? I realise this is more efficient but will the manual style tools do just as well?
@@phillipe124 from what I've seen they seem to work just fine, some people say that the presses don't look as clean but they do hold pressure just fine. I actually just saw a hydraulic manual press tool the other day, probably makes it a lot easier on the installer if they were doing a lot of presses consecutively.
@@chiefbrownfart thank you. The power tools here are around £950 and I'm only a DIY guy so the manual tool at £150 is less of a hit.
The other day while I was browsing lately I saw a manually operated version of this. It seems like it's a really bad idea to do it manually it would take a lot of strength
Those are ratcheting. So you don’t have to use hulk strength to get them to close
They are solid, i use them for when water is live and in a bad spot.. Screw risking messing up an expensive electric handtool
Maybe for wimps who don’t belong in the trades
I have a hydrualic pump version. Bet of all worlds besides the head design
⚠️Can't help thinking that if the cut ends are not completely blunt and smooth, the o rings will get damaged during insertion.
Plus I wouldn't sand the ends down, that's inviting tiny leaks
Thanks, Love from India❤🤗
Can you show us a manual press?
I use it & I have never had a problem with it. 😮 but in the wrong hands, it can be a nightmare
I saw reports online here on RUclips that press fittings are prone to micro leaks when used on type M copper, that it’s too thin. We just had a water heater replaced and low and behold some of the fittings have micro leaks, you can see a shiny water ring around the edge of the fitting. The plumber used leftover old pipe and I can tell it’s type M because of the red font. The leaks are so small that they don’t seem to drip, but it’s winter so the air is dry and the heater is running hard so maybe it’s evaporating, not sure what the case will be in the summer. It’s disconcerting and brings some truth to the reports I’m seeing. Have you heard about this?
The o rings inside the fittings are oiled. The oil squeezes out sometimes when they are pressed onto the pipe.
@@masejames4906 in my case it’s definitely water. I’m able to wipe it away/soak it up with the corner of a piece of paper, and it ever so slowly comes back.
@@goldistocks609 are they Viega fittings with the insertion depth marked?
@@masejames4906 Yes. I’ve seen others reporting the same issue with type M copper, that it’s too thin.
I am asking there is a rubber o ring inside it right?
Yea basically, I’ve used pro-press a lot and it works like a charm
@@alexkhamov5162 can it withstand hot water temperatures?
Very nice mustache man
And how do you undo it again if a problem arises in the future? Because you can’t heat it and melt the solder 🤔
cut it out and replace
I just don’t trust a fitting with an o-ring! If they made that with a ring of solder inside and then you pressed it and soldered it I would trust it. I’ll stick to soldered copper and pex-A and Uponor expansion fittings.
I thought the same, but press fittings actually do hold pressure even with the o-ring removed
Press fittings are incredibly reliable, just check the o-rings before you dry-fit everything to make sure you don't have any defective ones (one in a million)
2 different connections are made. The o-ring and the static connection of the fitting crimping onto the pipe itself.
Not just saying but I think the press fit fittings our better in the uk
better than the soldered coupling you tried to do. might as well just use a freaking shark bite. not me I'll continue to solder
Progress fittings are way more expensive then sweat fittings. Also the machine to the the pro press is expensive. You probably wouldn't use pro press fittings all the time because it will cost your company money.
Here he is just doing a demonstration here, but pro press is worth it in certain scenarios.
Yea why live in a house when you can sleep outside on the ground? 🤡
@@thebreakroompodcast5161 true that the way the world is going we better get used to that fact sleeping on the ground that is.WORD
How long will that o-ring last? My water is hard. The o-ring will deteriorate fast.
🤔 Yeah, I am not a plumber, but I've done radiator repairs (on vintage cars) with a MAPP torch, flux and solder. I think I'll stick to the MAPP torch and the forbidden asbestos rag. 🤭
these aren't for cars so good
B press tool
Is this really Pro press? Or sharkbite with extra steps and expensive tools?
Tools name
propress
Ok but milwaukee nake one of those so why buy a rigid
The ridgid has much more attachments and they have newer models , milwaukee is overall a better tool company but they are definitely behind in this field of tools
@@RealG23s it doesn't say milwaukee tho
@@connerruss6012 well I'm a milwaukee fan too I'm not going to purposely get a worse tool because of a logo
A tool is a tool bro
@@lv.wazasaul5745 but it doesn't say milwaukee on it
How can I have this working store
Hear me out, there's this stuff called solder.
As long as he didn't teach soldering. You should see his video. He roast it bad. Lol.
@@travisjessup6618 Shark bites also leak after a while meanwhile 50+ year old copper plumbing soldered together still going strong.
@@vincei2147 this isn’t shark bite lol
Apparently 50+ year as a plumber and this guy thinks that was a sharkbite 😂😂
@@One-ik4pbcommercial and industrial HVAC here, i find low flow have no issues, but a coworker built a header for pumps out off 3" press. And 5 years later there is water stains at the fittings
Dont get it. Why does manufacturers dont put a dint right in a middle for a pipe to stop? You wont need to mark it and you will that that it cant get in any further meaning the pipe is a full way in. 🤔
they do this is a repair coupling and not just a regular coupling.
Those crimper are stupid expensive
There are manual tools available for a fraction of the cost.
I just use couplings with stops.
so, ... just use the tool as designed. Check!
Uses o rings. I don't trust it. Sweating is easy enough.
Propress is better when doing repairs to water lines that have water lines in them or passing valves.
It's also much faster on certain jobs and applications.
I keep hearing people say that the o-rings are bad but I haven't seen any proof anywhere of that.
Have never seen a propress fitting fail. Have seen plenty of issues with solder.
@@AtomicBoyscout I'm not saying they don't hold in the short term. They're supposed to hold for at least 30 years or more. I don't think o-rings will hold up in the long term. I've always sweated copper pipe with silver bearing solder. I'm testing the waters with WAGO's for 110v electrical connections at the moment. I'm not even sure about those. I have o-rings fail all the time on other applications. I don't think they belong in permanent fixtures/applications. O-Rings tend to crack over a short period of time. Especially with heat. I don't trust it.
@@AtomicBoyscout I've seen people not wipe off the Flux and after a few years it starts eating the pipe. Also I've tried soldering when the pipe had water in it that I couldn't get put and had a difficult time.
@@mds6387 Wago's have a way higher fail rate than press fittings. The wagos are still pretty new where as the press has been around over 20 years in some places.
I had copper plumbing. At 25 years old, the house had to be completely repiped. Replumbed with pex. Hopefully last the rest of my life.
Press fittings, fresh from a toddler’s toy box.
You sad you don’t have one ?
Expensive shark bites
Eh ill stick to solder. If they reduce that tool size to half what it is now, I would consider using press fittings.
That's a real man right there
If u pressing med gas and u have brand new pipe do u still need to reem the pipe
I reem everytime no matter the fitting
@@RogerWakefield thanks bud