2009 Yamaha R1 VS Honda Fireblade
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- MCN road tester Michael Neeves puts the all-new Yamaha R1 through its paces against the latest Honda Fireblade in the south of France.
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Just when u realize how old this video is and how timeless these bikes are
You couldn't be more right, these bikes are still very formidable.
timeless indeed
Amen
My left ear is really enjoying the audio.
Bro it's going out my right speaker, I think you wearing them wrong. Maybe for the last 5 years.
@@andrewg4412 lmaooooo
Andrew G you’ve got your speakers plugged in arse about 😂
My favorite bikes are the Yamahas but for the cost I'm willing to go for the CBR
Its true R1 is harder to ride, I had friends with the Fireblade and R1, the guy with the R1 crashed his the Fireblade is still accident free, I also bought a Blade and its so easy to control it kinda warns u before some crazy shit happens.
Still got my 09 … best r1 I’ve ever had , to the point where I’ve never traded it in for any of the newer models to this day !
Everything you said about the R1 2009 - 2014 was SPOT ON. So glad I got this bike low mileage from a friend. Amazing bike. Took me a while to leant to ride it properly as its very different to the previous version R1 2008 I had, but it's very rewarding once you learn to ride it properly.
I'm looking at a very clean 2012 cbr1000rr with 12,000 mile for $5,000 sounds like a great value to me.
It is
@camomclegend ---- you mis-understood what i said. What i meant was, CBR is more easy to ride for a rider who is about to upgrade to a liter bike. Coming from a 600 or/and below.
What I would say is that there's a reason why the Blade rules the TT (this is real road racing so it's good for a benchmark). It's to do with the balancing of the bike as I said in my previous comment.
When buying a bike for the roads you're not going to be taking these bikes to their limits in order to be able to tell any real difference. When buying a bike for th road it's all about looks, comfort, what aftermarket parts it has etc
everything they said is true. I am not a racer. But i have ridden those 2 bikes. The R1 is really powerful, engine wise! The R1 just really do not want to stop! It is a very fast bike compare to the CBR1000. But yeah, the CBR is more easy to ride. Good for a LITER BIKE beginners. R1 requires experience and skills from a rider.
The Cbr is faster. I rode both and the blade will smoke that r1
@@adammfharris no it will not, I love Honda fireblades they are beautiful
But the R1 as well as it’s little brother MT10 just want to rip your arms out of your sockets
@@johnnygorena5318 I was much faster on the track with my CBR. Like 10 seconds faster lap time. Maybe a highway pull from 80 the R1 would edge it out. I never tested that theory. The only thing I would agree with is that the R1 felt faster, but the needle went up quicker on the CBR for me.
R1 looks more fucking awesome! LOL
Honda FTW! Had 2 R6 before and now 1000 rr 04 and 09..
Yamaha does have nice bikes but i prefer Honda ;)
Honda fireblade !
That sound from the R1 pure sex
Got the 2009 raven edition r1. I love it. Puts my busa to shame
To the butt dyno
ah, i still love the blade.
i wonder if honda will try and out do yamaha and make another 1000cc thats better... kinda pointless but could be nice
I think you guys are a joke. Making a review like this is an embarresment. Saying the CBR is like a 600cc compared to the R1. When not a single roll between R1 2009 and 1000rr 2008-2011 is won by Yamaha. Just search on youtube
9 out of 10 times most people who ride sports bikes are reborns who only ride on sunday and cant handle the machine so it doesnt matter what one you buy.
Personally I prefer the Fireblade because you get much better quality on the build, I have had enough Yamaha go pop on me.
The Fireblade it is!!
I had a 07 Fireblade for many years before it was stolen. It was extremely easy to ride fast. Miss that bike everyday.
What can you tell me about VIBRATIONS from the engine in cbr?
I honestly don't notice any. It's really smooth. And the power is linear.
@IIIBRAVOIII loool! R1 as a first bike?! u're crazy man! but at least u went immediately to the top... good choice tho ;))
These 2 bikes both just have the best look ever. I still prefer the old R1 look over the newest bikes.
Been a Honda man for years. Had CBR, RC51 and two VFRs. Love the power of a V4...but this R1 makes an inline 4 deliver power like a V4. Brilliant!
Cbr
both these bikes are amazing, honda was definitely on top of their game the previous years, in my opinion having been on my friend's fireblade from '08 the bike impressed me more than '08-'07 yamaha because theres just not as much weight to throw around the '09 yamaha's throttle feels completely different.
the exhausts on the R1 are terrbile though, replace them with some akros or a pair of termignonis clean up that mess
What are the riding positions like on both of the bikes? Traditionally, Yamaha's riding positions are wrist destroyers. Even though the R1 won this test, I would still buy the Honda due to it's less agressive riding position!
Your comment makes sense.
Sometimes when riding on bigger roads you do miss torque from a bigger bike. However, when I go ride on roads with a lot of harder turns, I rather choose the 600cc, at least for now. I just like using all the gears and let the engine rev high.
Whenever I feel like I can use at least some of the bikes potential on a race track, I might consider upgrading to a 1000cc.
Sorry if something made no sense, my english isn't very good.
Video quality on this film is crap ,,,
Yeh you are right. I watched all these reviews before buying my R1, then was shocked to find that the bike is the complete opposite of all the reviews. Terrible top heavy handling, overkill engine braking, absolutely gutless down low, clutch problems, fork problems, cam chain tensioner problems, terrible throttle mapping and heavily restricted. The only conclusion i can come to is the US model is completely different. I've still got my R1, have though very hard about selling it for a blade
ironhorse675 i have an 09 blade and i cant say a bad thing about it
I own 2017 R1. Haven't got to ride the new Cbr but it looks great! Both are a ton of fun and should be respected. Be safe. ✌
You used the word “grunt” about a dozen tunes
Honda = overpriced toys
Yamaha = bikes for everyone in every class
there making the CBR sound like a 600cc... its a wopping 1000cc for goodness sake.. these guys are buzzing... sure theres alittle offset on the price tags but permormance wise its like comparing a Lambo to a Ferrari
The R1 look like it has an eye disease...That series just lost it for me..fugly.
Bug eye
The south of bloody Frawnce eh ?!
Love my 1000rr....If I had to do it again, I'd buy another Honda!
Your comment was true through the second word! The new R1 is untouched. Everyone else will be following suit on the engine design, probably within the year.
But, as should go without saying, 99.9% of us will never TRULY be SO fast as to be able to tell a distinct and "terrible" difference between the two. Both are amazing machines. Props to both.
yes, but my point:
Honda = TOYS
Yamaha = BIKES
I ordered my new R1 today, can't wait to take her out for a blast both on road and track
What bike do you have now?
what about the c-abs? it's a good thing to have on streets where unforseen things can get in your way any minute ;)
cbr is beauty,n a nice exhaust
9:19 Ladies and gents, this engine might be the future of inline fours. Sometimes I can hardly believe how much the world is changing and how it is getting there.
How's it changed since your comment 10years ago
Nonsense!! R1 is dead below 10.000 RPM. Booooorrriiiiiiing!!! Fireblade goes with the throttle all the time.. so you got it all only in your wrist. R1 is a dead old mother who freaks out if you push her. FIREBLADE IS MUUUUUUUCH BETTER !!
Wtf is wrong with the sound
why? i am getting the R1 as my first bike
I heard the VIBRATIONS from the engine in cbr 1000 are much more disturbing than in her little Sister CBR 600....is it true...? Anybody knows?
cbr lo maximo!!!!!
0.45 "Now this is a 2009 ??? with really beuatiful HRC Suzuki??? paintjob."
Did I hear right? Suzuki???
Suzuka
R1 all about the engine, the riding dynamics of the bike arent particularly great, especially compared to the zx10 of the time
Allright... they put 10 more hp into the R1 and it has more exit out of the curves (if the rider is able to use it). Is also easy for Honda to increase power... than what? Soon we'll be riding on the road with full race track competition kits...?
Let's watch this year's SBK championship...where, more or less, every rider has a "Nail's Kit"...
I don't know that the R1 is so difficult to get used to. I've ridden and owned both inline fours and twins (GSX-R 1000 K7, a Fireblade, KTM SuperDuke R, KTM RC8 etc) and my 2009 R1 is probably the easiest to ride out of the bunch. The chassis is so good all you do is countersteer the thing into the corner, crank the throttle and it'll keep the line. Cut my previous best time at a certain track by three seconds the second track session. It is bloody amazing. I actually prefer it to the BMW.
Sold my 2005 model yesterday buying the 2009 in the morning cant wait!
well call me old fashioned if you like. ...But that is a public road and those guys are riding in an inappropriate manner. The lucky bastards.
R1 FTW BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!
11 years ago lol
Yeah keep in mind I haven't ridden the R1 and this was why I posted on you (as you obviously have).
I think it's a good reason mate. Very rarely do I go on a joy ride and take my bike up to anywhere near it's limits. I don't drive so my bie is used for both commuting and fun
I was in fact choosing between the R1 & Blade when replacing my last bike. I chose the Blade as I happened to get a really good deal (£8000 for a 2012 Blade with 2200 miles, full Leo system & Levers/Screen).
in TT it's everything about the rider..i also didnt even refer to gsxrs i just said r1 is better.trust me dude ride an R1 and u will see the difference..high torque with a crossplane crankshaft an 100% reliable just like the fireblade..cbr is better than r1 for everyday use as it is more comfort as many honda guys say.. but seriously this is not a good reason to pick a cbr over the r1..i mean if you need "comfort" and "everyday use" you take a scooter and not a track bike..
Honda CBR 1000 RR Fireblade SC59 е по- добрият мотор.Агресивен и труден за каране,докато R1 е спокоен мотор
Was honestly Disappointed in the sound on startup. Sound should be matured by now. #2023.
I notice everyone saying the CBR is the better bike.
I'm going on my personal opinion. I love the r1, i mean i've wanted one sense i could remember, i've been all over the country on my friends r1, him with a CBR, so naturally we swapped, i find the CBR to be a nice bike, but it lacks something, i find hondas bigger cc bikes to lack, anything over a 600 id pick a yamaha. Though if your abit causious and not sure of yourself, id pick the fireblade, R1 is rawr power, scary and times but more fun
Legislation causes different results and so be it.When bike is 16hp down on best in class (146 R1 with 162hp for ZX-10 in 2009 US tests) but loses only little on top(162 vs 170 in UK) with huge grunt,that makes it different bike all together.
What causes such a loss in Yamaha and why? US bike is still fast and interesting for the use of new technologies,but when you watch US vs Euro tests,R1 seems to be absolutely different bike,power wise!!
Is there simple reason for such a huge power loss?
Why are all US bikes so weak compare to Euro or UK ones. 09'R1 in US has around 146hp from every test and torque is just o.k. It's down on 08'model,which was around 153 hp. I guess, that new model is down on power everywhere( well 5-7hp) and that'd be fine,if it had such a huge low and mid power and grunt. But, CBR is grunt king over not just R1,but others too
I have trouble to figure, what it is. Also, in UK test, this new R1 has 162hp. That's 16hp up on US bike!!! What's the cause of it?!
well i have an 04 cbr1000rr with miner work on it ,and every r1 i race (not on track ) i owned .but ive never raced an 09 r1 yet .my question is how would that bike perform on the street against the vet bikes like mine .......04 cbr1000rr hp 148.6 torque 76.4lbs weight 466lbs stock ,09 yamaha r1 (rear wheel hp) 146.2 torque 72.6lbs weight 474lbs stock AND IM NOT HATING I LOVE JAP BIKES ..... BUT FUCK DUCATI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
R1 wins eh Mr Neeves?
With the benefit of hind-sight I think most critics would disagree with this review.
BIKE magazine in particular have dismissed the R1 as a bit of a gimmick that's annoying to ride and with really sub-standard suspension.
It may beat the 'Blade on a track, but if you appreciate function over form, I think you'll agree that the R1 is the inferior bike once the cross-plane novelty wears off.
And just look at the thing. It looks like Bugs Bunny on amphetamines...
im not anit-yamaha, all you know is yamaha. why are you talkin about motogp bikes. why the fuck would i care. do i have the money to buy one? im talkin production bikes. all the bikes are pretty much equal so i dont know why your all for yamaha, putting them first and sayin hondas shit just because racers win with the yamaha. in races the bikes are so equal it all comes down to gearing and which tires to chose according to the terrain and temperature.
rush,
so how come in moto gp all four yamahas are in the top ten usually? You cant dismiss the motorcycle at all. I know rider has a lot to do with it but if u got a shit bike a rider's talent will go out the window no matter what he or she does. in moto gp the M1 is the most complete package. The Ducati is the fastest on the straights though. the Honda was a complete package in early 2000s but power wise it got surpassed. right now u are sounding anti-yamaha for some reason rush...
the R1 is the bike to beat this year, honda , suzuki, kawasaki are getting their azzes kicked all over the world by the R1, and yamaha, want proof? who's going to be the 2009 world superbike champion? who's going to be MOTOGP world champion? both answers = YAMAHA R1 and M1 and even in the pathetic AMA waterdown superbike in the U.S. Josh hayes on the r1 will be next year's AMA superbike champion, where is honda, ducati, kawasaki, suzukis championships for 2009??
yamaha makes products with great performance and more power than necessary and the honda makes bikes for normal people who just wants to ride a great mc and sometimes wants a bit speed but they make them with much better quality,im not saying that the r1 is worse im just saying that because of the power of yamaha you got more things to think bout when you make those bikes and its more diffucult to make those bikes with better quality!!!
R1 FOR LIFE!!!!
Yeah, funny thing is that most of these haters probably never even rode a bike in their life. LOL I have owned all the major makes, and I just love the way Honda performs. I have rode the new R1, and to be honest, it feels like a tank. If it works for someone else, well good for them, but to say Honda sucks is just an ignorant statement from someone that buys a bike because they saw someone win on race weekend. In reality the race bikes are nothing like the dealership bikes at all. LOL Idiots!
why can u just say u like honda, instead of knocking down all the other bike makers. People are not going to listen to u. U sound like a fanboy. people are going to buy whatever they want. did honda pay u to advertise for them or something? I got an 07 R1 and I like it. I like yamaha too. but I dont go around knocking other manufacturer. cuz some little company from somewhere might build something that will spank a honda or yamaha or whatever.
I'm gonna totally disagree with you on everything u mentioned. rossi and especially burgess tested and developed the honda rc211v to be good. it was not great from the get go. the yzr m1 was good at cornering but did not have the power as compared to the honda at that time. with yamaha, rossi and burgess, helped get the power out of the m1. through testing and adjustments. rc211v is a v5 the m1 is a i-4 with crossplane. two different animals which makes your honda loving comment weak.
If you put focus on learning how to ride correctly on the street and the track...you can take any of the 1 liters and dominate...anybody can put a bike in a straight line and pull the trigger..takes no skill what so ever. With all of the superbikes being within 1 horsepower or 3 different, 98% of the riders in the world have no clue which one is faster. Sikill is the faster bike
i think you got your facts wrong.
2009 Suzuki GSX-R1000: 191bhp, 87lb/ft, 167kg
Top Speed:+/-190mph mph Curb Weight: 203kg (448 lbs.) lbs.
yamaha r1 Horsepower: 179.5 hp at 12,500 rpm (claimed) Torque: 85 lb-ft at 10,000 rpm (claimed) Top Speed: +/-190mph mph
Honda cbr 1000 2009 Horse Power @ RPM:175.3bhp @ 12,000rpm Torque @ RPM: 84 lb-ft @ 8,500rpm Curb Weight: 439 lbs.
honda got abs breaks this year. who cares? hp and weight thats whats count.
i think you got your facts wrong.
2009 Suzuki GSX-R1000: 191bhp, 87lb/ft, 167kg
Top Speed:+/-190mph mph Curb Weight: 203kg (448 lbs.) lbs.
yamaha r1 Horsepower: 179.5 hp at 12,500 rpm (claimed) Torque: 85 lb-ft at 10,000 rpm (claimed) Top Speed: +/-190mph mph
Honda cbr 1000 2009 Horse Power @ RPM:175.3bhp @ 12,000rpm Torque @ RPM: 84 lb-ft @ 8,500rpm Curb Weight: 439 lbs.
honda got abs breaks this year. who cares? hp and weight thats whats count.
i do have a gixxer 2008 and in 2008 gixxer was still the king.lol. the 2009 is faster, lighter and more power.the gixxer will always be the untamed brute of the bunch.more power in lower rpm then the yam and more violent then the honda. you shoul check your stat better mate. gixxer rules the race track.but dont get me wrong, they are all excellent bikes. finally, the gixxer sound with or without a pipe is way better.funny they did not test the gixxer lol.
honda's have got it going on for me, honda have never made a bad blade, maybe the first 929 were not that great imo, but all the rest are no:1 in my eyes, they have the looks the performance and the build all rolled into one, fireblades the way forward,
the thing about the r1 is, if any1 wants to talk shit about a bike they will talk about the r1,, like,,,, my mate done 205mph on his 2004 r1,, eeerrr no he didnt.
but yeah i like all bikes, its just the honda's do it for me.
YES YES YES!!!!! goooo yamaha i own an 06 r1 and my brother owns a k7 gixxer 1000 and ive ridin all the liter bikes and i agree with alfie7552 u should buy witchever bike u think looks the best because no matter if ur on a 600 or a 1000 there all so damn fast that it doesnt matter so wutever bike makes u say damn,,,thats beautiful thats your bike but with that being said GO YAMAHA KING OF THE LITERS ONCE AGAIN...TAKE THAT AND SWALLOW IT ALL YOU TRASH TALKIN HONDA SQUIDS YAMAHAS KING ONCE AGAIN
Just another flavour bike for this year. I own an 08 R1 and think that'll do for the next five years. Seriously what can you do with these bikes on the road. 2nd gear wheelies all day. Back road drags. Same shite every year. Whatever bike suzuki come out with It'll hammer anything. Why would 3 privateer teams in WSBK say yes please to one instead of the R1? I'm over comparos. That R1 looks hideous compared to the 04 - 08 model R1's. My 2 cents
What it all comes down to is, don't buy on someone else's opinion. Ride the bike, THEN make up your own mind on what suits you best. Riding position, seat height, and so on, and of course what looks best to you. Everyone has their own tastes, or all bikes would look, sound, and all be the same. I love my 1000rr, but that is just me.
What about the 2011 Kawasaki ZX10R? I am not sure, but Kawasaki might make a the same stile engine as Yamaha. Anywhay I love these bikes and I am wondering how is going to look year 2011 for supersport class!
If I could take some big pluses from each bike then I would, but shame that no company is gonna do that any time soon! Hahaha!
Yeah, that's why the Honda Fireblade wins every Isle of Man senior TT, Superbike TT and Superstock TT. The CBR1000RR holds the lap record for every class in which it competes - no Yamahas on the list.
In the only REAL all-out road race on the planet for production bikes, Honda Fireblades own the track.
...lets try to find a way to experience riding the two bikes MCN reviewed. Then lets post our comments. That should make it fair and square to everybody. Everybody's opinion matters...that's what make these bikes better and better. Besides, our personal views make our chosen ride special to us...because we assure ourselves we made the right decision with our ride.
Dude, It's a superbike, not a new couch. If you want comfort out of your riding, go ride a big American bike.......not 1 of these.
But in response to your question the Blade felt like a more natural riding position than the R1
R1 is the faster bike, but in my opinion the honda is much more fun to ride.
i had a a 600cc for 4 years quite happily, wondering why any one would want a bigger bike, i now have a fz1000 for about 18 months, it is fantastic, love it so much, you do have to be a little more carefull how you ride, but will never go back now.
So in all i would say, start off with 600 then you will really enjoy getting a bigger bike plus be more experianced to ride it.
Ok I ride a 2008 GSXR 1000 and a 2009 R1. I dont agree that you shouldnt have a 1000 as your 1st bike. learning to ride a bike is all about the proper use of the throttle and the clutch. If you can use both effectivlly you could ride anything. I guarantee in 6 months you will wish you would have gotten the 1000 not the 600.
Love the R1 sounds amazing
1000 vezes a CBR 1000 RR do que a R1,R1 é podre
i really dig the analog tachometer on the R1.
@dazzelya Yeah man, that's true. I live in the US for a little while and was first shocked to see those octane numbers. I was used to 93-95 and 97 or 8 and here it's 87-89-91 or 93 and best 95, hehe....No wonder factories have problems with this kind of shite and it kills your engine too, car or bike.
@Snookenas agreed and honda built the better bike....i think most of us can agree when it comes to the best manufacture there is NO,NADA. NOTHING that makes a more reliable, better, respect, user power friendly, street friendlier ..all in one package motorcycle then HONDA
These guys are tools bar none, they act like the R1 is all but unrideable with all the grunt it has, i own an 09 R1 and i feel that the gsxr 1K's & zx10R's that iv owned would man-handle this bike. i like my 09 yam but it isnt the "beast" these guys are making it out to be.
i wonder how much their opinion earned them there!! made the blade feel like a 600!! hmmm...
personally i dont think that these bikes are suitable for road use, yes you can ride them but you will never get its full potential on the open road.
both bikes belong on the track
I've ridden a 600cc and still feel no need for any bigger bike... I don't understand why people keep telling "you'll get bored of 600cc in the first month, get a 1000cc". I'd rather learn to ride the 600cc properly on a track and then _might_ consider a bigger bike.
Results from the 09 Isle of man TT Superstock race.
1st,2nd,3rd,4th and 5th Honda CBR100RR
Yamaha R1 ..... Did'nt even get on the podium all week.
So much for them being a better road bike MCN.
How about doing a fair test for a change and not giving the best review to who ever pays you the most
dude...no matter what bike u use of the same class, it still depends on the rider on track....even drag race...but of course if u have more power,it means u have slightly more advantage...but whats the advantage for if u cant handle it?again depends on the rider...
If you want to tinker and work on your bike as much as you ride ,,,,buy the R1...if you just want to ride trouble free year after year buy the CBR....I have both, I like riding the R1, a good bike to ride,, just too much trouble. Honda has forgotten more about motorcycles than the rest ever knew.
@nachospole1 i think it would be a big step,you shout try with a 600,i drive a honda tornado 250 and im about to buy a cbr 600 because the fireblade is to big and more powerfull, so i suggest the 600 my friend and then get a 1000
R1 is for gay morris dancers that want to improve on their space hopper come BMX skills come gay seen, show their nipples in Brightont streets. Where as FIREBLADE GODS just know they RINSE the roads...... fuckin R1s hold up the red micras
Strange when the new blade came out last year it looked ugly next to the outgoing R1.
However now the new R1 looks ugly next to the blade!
i would find it very difficult to choose from these two awesome bikes, just as well i cant afford either!! :)
YAMAHAAAAAA...R1 IS BEST IF U R A VERY GOOD RIDER..ITS NOT FOR THE NOVICE:) U NEED TO KNOW HOW TO RIDE A BIKE.U CANT SAY R1 IS BAD AS U CANT RIDE IT.PROBABLY U RIDE A 100CC BIKE AND HAD A FIRST TIME RIDE ON YAMAHA R1 LOL
@IIxSmgYxII LOL no I never noticed that. Well, I guess what I said sounded good to lots of people. It's pretty much common sense though, nobody buys a bike on someone else's opinion, or at least I hope they don't. LOL