1:45 A Major, Seriously MAJOR, Part of it is actually its Far cheaper and Easier to produce a flat crank than a cross one. Something you completely missed. Cranks all have balancing weights and counter balancing weights, They just don't require an Extra Shaft of reciprocating mass to help balance it. Those blades you see on the crank, are just that... Weights.
Great vid. You left out two major parts though. 1. Yamaha, especially when it comes to their motors tend to do something that aligns with their music heritage. There is a great video from yamaha that shows a drummer playing drums to how a crossplane fires. 2. Rossi had a huge influence on how the crossplane was shaped for motogp and his riding style. He says instead of the 4 quadrants of the tire having 1 power spot for each, a crossplane produces 2 power spots for every 1 quadrant. Thats where that faster lap time part comes in because its easier to get on the throttle and not worry about getting bucked off or sliding the rear earlier in a turn exit.
crossplane has it's benefits and cons. it's not better than flatplane it's just better in certain scenarios while flat is better in others. cross plane don't just magically make you faster or make the bike any faster. it just changes the way the power is put down and how to handle the bike
Crossplanes have a more linear power curve, which is predictable, that's why motogp bikes are mostly crossplanes or V4s. Flat planes make most power in the higher revs.
The only MotoGP crossplane is Yamaha, which hasn't won a single race in over a year. There are no crossplanes left in the Isle of Mans top 20 racers. I think the only reason Yamaha continues the crossplane is because if they switched to the V4, the magic of the R1 would fade away, and sales would suffer. Yamaha has dug themselves a hole investing in crossplane. @@JH09SUMIT
I love 2009 - 2014 R1 .not just because its crossplane. but under tail exhaust are just so damn sexy! If only the headlights look like the new ones though 😅😅
@@MisterShifterYT For a street bike, the crossplane crank is largely a marketing gimmick. Maybe some advantage at full throttle on the track - but irrelevant for a street rider. Makes them sound like a Ducati - LOL
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp It saved my ass literally in a few too risky dangerous aggressive maneuvers. ☝️ Testosterone - I take less risks now, but still outrace & outpace when riding.
0:39 when talking about Yamaha, of course there has to be Valentino Rossi kissing his M1 winning over Biaggi in his first ever race with the manufacturer in Welkom, 2004-kind of moment :)
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If Cross plane crankshaft engines are better than flatplane, how come it cannot deliver as much power as the Ducatis, KTMs and Aprilia in MotoGP engines?
@@stevenmaschek7554The theoretical advantages of uneven firing order can apply in MotoGP racing, where engine output exceeds 230 horsepower and the biggest obstacle to turning good lap times is cornering traction and the rider’s ability to feel how well the rear tire is hooked up at any given throttle opening. But there are very real inherent engineering challenges that must be overcome with an uneven firing order. It’s more difficult to produce strong power and torque with an uneven firing order, especially at low rpm and in the midrange. Vibration is increased, requiring much thicker and heavier crankcases and a counterbalancing shaft, and associated mechanical losses contribute to overheating.
@@thegoatrider_ Another way that the cross-plane crank engines emulate the V4 is in their firing order. A conventional inline four fires every half a rotation of the crank (every 180°). A V4, on the other hand, has an uneven firing order, typically having a 270° pause between the fourth and then the first cylinder firing (so, once every two turns of the crank). The theory is that this pause gives the tyre time to ‘relax’ back to its original position and key into the road surface, giving you more traction when really getting the hammer down. That means V4 has better cornering exits But u can see M1 are using in Motogp with nice results, the reason is the kerb weight not the crossplane!
@@geniukoo8025maybe the v4 doesn't excell at cornering as the i4 is because the fact that most bikes with v4 engine has longer wheelbase ? I have heard somewhere that a v4 is longer or broader which lead the bike requiring longer swing arm. Correct me if I am wrong 😅
Both love the sound of crossplanes and flatplat inline 4s. The crossplane gives a growl, and the flats gives the scream ^^
1:45 A Major, Seriously MAJOR, Part of it is actually its Far cheaper and Easier to produce a flat crank than a cross one. Something you completely missed. Cranks all have balancing weights and counter balancing weights, They just don't require an Extra Shaft of reciprocating mass to help balance it. Those blades you see on the crank, are just that... Weights.
R1 sound is another term for music
Amazing video bro!
Great vid. You left out two major parts though. 1. Yamaha, especially when it comes to their motors tend to do something that aligns with their music heritage. There is a great video from yamaha that shows a drummer playing drums to how a crossplane fires. 2. Rossi had a huge influence on how the crossplane was shaped for motogp and his riding style. He says instead of the 4 quadrants of the tire having 1 power spot for each, a crossplane produces 2 power spots for every 1 quadrant. Thats where that faster lap time part comes in because its easier to get on the throttle and not worry about getting bucked off or sliding the rear earlier in a turn exit.
crossplane has it's benefits and cons. it's not better than flatplane it's just better in certain scenarios while flat is better in others. cross plane don't just magically make you faster or make the bike any faster. it just changes the way the power is put down and how to handle the bike
Walah ngelu...
@@sinsinsss5216nword??
Crossplanes have a more linear power curve, which is predictable, that's why motogp bikes are mostly crossplanes or V4s.
Flat planes make most power in the higher revs.
The only MotoGP crossplane is Yamaha, which hasn't won a single race in over a year. There are no crossplanes left in the Isle of Mans top 20 racers.
I think the only reason Yamaha continues the crossplane is because if they switched to the V4, the magic of the R1 would fade away, and sales would suffer. Yamaha has dug themselves a hole investing in crossplane. @@JH09SUMIT
Crossplane sounds amazing.
long time waiting to see your new video... good to watch.
I love 2009 - 2014 R1 .not just because its crossplane. but under tail exhaust are just so damn sexy! If only the headlights look like the new ones though 😅😅
great video!
Great video as usual🤌🏻
Glad you liked it man thanks!!!
I already know why , I’m just going to watch this because I fan boy way to much for R1’s
Great upload man ❤
Glad you like it!
@@MisterShifterYT For a street bike, the crossplane crank is largely a marketing gimmick.
Maybe some advantage at full throttle on the track - but irrelevant for a street rider.
Makes them sound like a Ducati - LOL
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp It saved my ass literally in a few too risky dangerous aggressive maneuvers. ☝️ Testosterone - I take less risks now, but still outrace & outpace when riding.
0:39 when talking about Yamaha, of course there has to be Valentino Rossi kissing his M1 winning over Biaggi in his first ever race with the manufacturer in Welkom, 2004-kind of moment :)
PINOY? NAGULAT AKO SA OUTRO, GRABE! KEEP IT UP MAN!
Didn’t they have a problem with the cross plane crank snapping in half ?
FlatPlat anyday
It sounds like superbike
It does definitely sound better. But that crisp throttle response from the cross plain is very nice 👍
Thanks for the info 😊
I don't want to know anything about crossplane, R1 is love ❤and that's it❤
Such crisp throttle response 😋
Amazing video !!! but dammmn that flatplane of the 1000RR sound sooo much better, to me !
Thank you so muchh ^^
I love the sound of the crossplane so much 😎👍
Na boa? Respeito as opiniões dos amantes da flat, mas o Cross é muito mais legal!
YAMAHA R1 1000CC SPORTS BIKE ✌
NICE VIDEO🎉 When I come to The Philippines - Where can I ride fast safe & hard - Speed Demon here 😊 Any Racetracks? What City & Island is Great for Fast Riding & will the cops care that I outrun & hide from them? They never catch me🎉 At least not yet. Much Respect from Atlanta Georgia USA 🇺🇲💪🇵🇭
Soo would it be smart to change the firing order of the r1 to the bmw s1000rr? Love the looks of the r1 but love the sound of the s1k rr better
If Cross plane crankshaft engines are better than flatplane, how come it cannot deliver as much power as the Ducatis, KTMs and Aprilia in MotoGP engines?
Ducati cross plane and aprilia flat plane
@@ahimeirhadad4836 Ducatis, Aprilias and KTMs use V4 engines with a 180 flat plane crankshaft.
Yes is this why inline 4 car engines sound different?
the flatplane will always make more power but it is a harder beast to tame. in racing, power isn't everything.
The xplane gives a much better torque delivery, this without reducing RPM
Thats not true Steven. Provide us with a source that proves that. Not just Yamaha marketing bovine excrement.
@@stevenmaschek7554The theoretical advantages of uneven firing order can apply in MotoGP racing, where engine output exceeds 230 horsepower and the biggest obstacle to turning good lap times is cornering traction and the rider’s ability to feel how well the rear tire is hooked up at any given throttle opening. But there are very real inherent engineering challenges that must be overcome with an uneven firing order. It’s more difficult to produce strong power and torque with an uneven firing order, especially at low rpm and in the midrange. Vibration is increased, requiring much thicker and heavier crankcases and a counterbalancing shaft, and associated mechanical losses contribute to overheating.
@@stevenmaschek7554 Marginally better for a racing engine. Irrelevant gimmick for a street bike. Other that it makes a Yamaha sound like a Ducati. LOL
KEEP IT CONSISTENT BRO, ONE DAY YOU'LL REACH 1 MILLION
motogp mainly v4 engine now, the crossplane M1 has the lowest hosepower seriously
V4 for straight line, Inline 4 for curve turn
Crossplane has good cornering balance and has fast cornering exits.
@@thegoatrider_ Another way that the cross-plane crank engines emulate the V4 is in their firing order. A conventional inline four fires every half a rotation of the crank (every 180°). A V4, on the other hand, has an uneven firing order, typically having a 270° pause between the fourth and then the first cylinder firing (so, once every two turns of the crank). The theory is that this pause gives the tyre time to ‘relax’ back to its original position and key into the road surface, giving you more traction when really getting the hammer down.
That means V4 has better cornering exits
But u can see M1 are using in Motogp with nice results, the reason is the kerb weight not the crossplane!
@@geniukoo8025maybe the v4 doesn't excell at cornering as the i4 is because the fact that most bikes with v4 engine has longer wheelbase ? I have heard somewhere that a v4 is longer or broader which lead the bike requiring longer swing arm.
Correct me if I am wrong 😅
The disappointment in the sound of crossplane to flat
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AKO UNA SER ASTIG
Good to watch. Hahaha
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I don t like yamaha sound cross plane...sound V 4
Always buy a Honda