I just picked up a GTI mk7.5 in Atlantic blue with the Brescia wheels and it’s a cracking car! Much nicer looking than the R but the R drives better! More about the icon for me though!
I do prefer the look of the gti than the R. I don’t buy new I buy used. So if I have seen R’s the same price as gti’s. I’d only buy the r if it was cheaper or same price than the spec I wanted in the gti. Because I can stage 1 the gti and have same power and better looking car minus 4motion. And I’m not that fussed because did get either in manual only.
No, the GTI has heritage and style. The R is cool but more for people who don't know better than that the R is the most powerful golf. I could afford the R if I wanted to but I would much more like a GTI because of the fact that it is a GTI. The name GTI is a classic name that has been around for decades. It has style, rust, heritage and history. The Golf R is for people who want to blast rap music while revving their engines outside night clubs. There is no style nor respect in that. Basically the Golf R is for kids.
Lol Golf R any day. Doesn’t matter if the GTI is an icon, the R is just better. The only reason why you’d get the GTI now is if you got a better deal (as mentioned) or need more boot space (because of the lack of AWD)
TR Hamza yh agreed the awd system extra power alone is worth the extra £100 a month lol + R looks better but i do prefer the interior on the gti & lights
I do agree with you to an extent..... the GTI is an icon but VW screwed them self when they released the R32 which led on to the R. I think my point being the R should be the GTI and sack off the R nameplate. Back in the day the 205GTI and the MK2 GTI 16v Golf were two of the quickest hot hatches around now the GTI has been to watered down. That said the GTI details are nicer than the R. 👍🏼
From a guy who’s had mk 4 and 5 R32s and now in a mk7 R Im honestly blown away with the R … but have lots of love for the GTI . What a iconic car , both great motors .
I owned a GTI mk 7 (347 hp). Now i own a R 7.5 (400 hp). The R is the better one. The traction is amazing. With the GTI always spinning wheels. With the R none. And it is a lot quicker. I love it.
I test drove both. In normal traffic (which is an absolute pain here in Tampa, FL), the GTI was more entertaining due to the lighter weight and torque coming on a bit lower in the range. Golf R was very impressive, don’t get me wrong, and very fast, but in normal daily driving it felt a bit boring to be honest. All depends on use and preference, but I found the GTI the more entertaining daily driver
Mine is brand new and the only problem I have is the lower engine mount moves too much. I can release the clutch pedal slow and sometimes the car still clunks. I'm not even gonna warranty the part, I'm adding a mount insert to forget it altogether. Other than that it's a ridiculously fun car for the price.
I love the GTI. Personally, I have a MK7 GTI sport. If I had the money I would have gone for the Golf R, but I completely understand your reasoning for choosing a GTI over the R, especially since you already have supercars to get your ridiculous speed fix when you need it. I love the fact that you kept the car really low key spec wise, but if there is one thing I think you have to do, it would be aftermarket wheels.
Have you EQ’d the audio from the iPhone, cos the bass is missing and hence it sounds quite treble heavy, however when you were filming the dog and the golf, the warmth came back?
Each to his own, it's all personal opinion. Golf R, more power, better handling, leather upholstery as standard, more aggressive stance and I prefer the styling on the R. Mine arrives in 5 weeks.
It's supposed to be a daily, not a track car. This is a difference between golf and cars like type R and focus RS and so on, golf is much better at being a daily.
Who did you lease from pal? Thinking of selling my e46 M3 and getting one of these. Although the M3 is awesome, I miss the creature comforts (like cup holders) of a modern car!
What do you think about some winter trip with your daily cars? You with GTI, Archi with A45, Sam with CaymanS, Paul with M3, MrJWW RS6 or S1? Go on road trip to maybe Spain or some crazy destination for a week? I think that would be some mad content!!! Hope something like that we would see very soon!
I have Unitronic tuned Gti Mk VII, non PP. 280+ whp and an open diff (they are cheap used in the US). It's chaos when you floor it, especially if driving one-handed. How about a challenge for you and Archie trying this in central London traffic?
Love the look of the GTI. Been looking at alternatives to the Focus ST3 and this is right up there. Can I ask what leasing company you used and rough payments. Tia
I had the R for two years and recently changed to a mk7.5 GTI, both DSG and although I miss the traction and power of the R, I’m really enjoying the 2wd fun that be had with the GTI, also spending a decent chunk less on fuel and paying less through financing, they’re both great to drive, I just don’t miss the R as much as I thought I would.
Obviously I'm outnumbered here. Most of you prefer the GTI over the golf r. I have owned an MK5 and MK6 GTi. They we're both great cars! It was fun to romp around as well as daily Drive in those gti's. That being said, I purchased an MK 7.5 Golf R and I can say without a doubt it is a massive Improvement! I live in the mountains so even our highways are twisty and you can feel the rear end push you around the turns when you're pushing it a little bit. Among many other reasons I would prefer a golf are one hundred percent of the time. But that's just one person's opinion🤷🏻
No golf R 2 door manual ! I just traded my r32 mk4 for a base gti 2015, I’m surprised how much I don’t miss my old r32! I do miss my leather ! Those seats were amazing.
I borrowed a golf r stage 3 pushing 480bhp off a mate for 2 days in love with it,golf r all the way.boost bugs lol.I like the mark 6 twin exhaust in the middle 4 exhaust is a over kill.
The worst part of GTi and other FWD with a lot of Nm = wheelhop. Now I have Cupra 300 and thinking about Golf R because AWD and better interior quality.
What do you think? Golf R or GTI? Let the arguments begin
Let me be a typical RUclips commentator. "Neither, buy a Civic Type R!"
I just picked up a GTI mk7.5 in Atlantic blue with the Brescia wheels and it’s a cracking car! Much nicer looking than the R but the R drives better! More about the icon for me though!
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TGE TV no adverts unfortunately squire
gti is front wheels but the golf r is 4 wheels and more grip
The front of the GTI is indeed very pretty. I see them often in my R's rear view mirror!!!!!
Savage
that additional 50hp getting you real far ahead haha
monster
How’s grip in bad conditions?
I own a GTI and I found this joke hilarious
The #1 reason the majority of people bought a gti instead of the R .... is the price
Exactly. It there was only a couple thousand dollar difference, everyone would choose the Golf R.
@@HudMan4U Well DUH, if a Bentley was only a couple of grand more than a Skoda, everyone would choose the Bentley.
No shit Sherlock.
I do prefer the look of the gti than the R. I don’t buy new I buy used. So if I have seen R’s the same price as gti’s.
I’d only buy the r if it was cheaper or same price than the spec I wanted in the gti. Because I can stage 1 the gti and have same power and better looking car minus 4motion. And I’m not that fussed because did get either in manual only.
That Guy I won’t choose the R over the GTI 😂 bro you make me feel as if I’m poor, I could’ve bought a m550i if I wanted lol
No, the GTI has heritage and style. The R is cool but more for people who don't know better than that the R is the most powerful golf. I could afford the R if I wanted to but I would much more like a GTI because of the fact that it is a GTI. The name GTI is a classic name that has been around for decades. It has style, rust, heritage and history. The Golf R is for people who want to blast rap music while revving their engines outside night clubs. There is no style nor respect in that. Basically the Golf R is for kids.
Lol Golf R any day. Doesn’t matter if the GTI is an icon, the R is just better. The only reason why you’d get the GTI now is if you got a better deal (as mentioned) or need more boot space (because of the lack of AWD)
GTI is a better daily tho. softer spring rate,more comfy
Yeah and if u stage 1 the gti theyre more or less the same. so ill prob take GTI
TR Hamza yh agreed the awd system extra power alone is worth the extra £100 a month lol + R looks better but i do prefer the interior on the gti & lights
ShaDoWhUnTeR ellis golf r can b specced with DCC?
The Real Rodger not really, stage 1 on the r brings it to 350+bhp with a 3.* 0-60
still confused why a guy who has had multiple supercars is worried about a few quid a month. Golf R wins hands down.
Wouldn't bother filming with the iPhone again. The video quality is nice but the audio is shit
Noted and agreed
TGE TV get an external mic my lamb
he must of been covering the mic, my x doesn't sound like that
He has his finger over the mic just needs to hold phone differently
I do agree with you to an extent..... the GTI is an icon but VW screwed them self when they released the R32 which led on to the R. I think my point being the R should be the GTI and sack off the R nameplate. Back in the day the 205GTI and the MK2 GTI 16v Golf were two of the quickest hot hatches around now the GTI has been to watered down. That said the GTI details are nicer than the R. 👍🏼
"want a car to blend in so no one will break into my house" drives an aventador s
ludovic howison 😂😂😂😂
looked like such a promising video, then archie came on and i had to turn it off. never mind, can try again next week.
IB why is it that every vlog now features that annoying Hamilton? Used to love watching here, oh well...
Bike Life is that why 40+ people liked my comment, you now look silly trying to call out someone who’s being sarcastic. Congrats you fucked up 😂
IB because I'm wrong and I'm sorry. Should have read it properly. Comments taken back. Still do your homework😂
Bike Life I’m 22 chap, homework was finished a long time ago. However congrats for being the bigger man. Good day sir!
IB good day to you too
Archie’s A45 wrap looks great, why couldn’t he do that to the r8?😂
cus hes a pigeon
megaollie98 oh yeah, I forgot😂🐦
Mic Quality seems off on the iPhone 10?
It records mono.. like every other iphone.
GTI with DSG is a great daily car choice, I couldn’t see enough advantages to spend the extra on an R
Try one and you'll see the difference, the IS38 turbo is completely on a higher level.
From a guy who’s had mk 4 and 5 R32s and now in a mk7 R Im honestly blown away with the R … but have lots of love for the GTI . What a iconic car , both great motors .
I owned a GTI mk 7 (347 hp). Now i own a R 7.5 (400 hp). The R is the better one. The traction is amazing. With the GTI always spinning wheels. With the R none. And it is a lot quicker. I love it.
The mic is horrible 🎤
Sounds fine to me
I test drove both. In normal traffic (which is an absolute pain here in Tampa, FL), the GTI was more entertaining due to the lighter weight and torque coming on a bit lower in the range. Golf R was very impressive, don’t get me wrong, and very fast, but in normal daily driving it felt a bit boring to be honest. All depends on use and preference, but I found the GTI the more entertaining daily driver
Why is the audio from front face recording so terribad?
My hand was over mic
You're a TERRIBLE RUclipsr ! (with an Aventador)
Keep it up.
Daniel Warren there's no such thing as a front face mic. It's just a mic
Kathmandu I’m so sorry
I own an "R" and everything about them is better than the GTI. Big reason is those seats are like my grandmothers blanket.
Mine is brand new and the only problem I have is the lower engine mount moves too much. I can release the clutch pedal slow and sometimes the car still clunks. I'm not even gonna warranty the part, I'm adding a mount insert to forget it altogether. Other than that it's a ridiculously fun car for the price.
"The GTI has been around for decades..." So have horses, but that's not a reason to buy one lol!
So can we call official the bromance with the pigeon?
Do another watch video please (patek preferably)
Andre Tennis Theyve been shipped and now they're both in the sea with the 720s etc.
Bromance is great. They have great chemistry together!
Andre Tennis they're both character, absolute characters
The R looks a lot better!!
Interesting how people’s opinions are split so much! ☺️
I have stage1 2019 pp golf r looks better I like both cars stage1 r would be better
I love the GTI. Personally, I have a MK7 GTI sport. If I had the money I would have gone for the Golf R, but I completely understand your reasoning for choosing a GTI over the R, especially since you already have supercars to get your ridiculous speed fix when you need it. I love the fact that you kept the car really low key spec wise, but if there is one thing I think you have to do, it would be aftermarket wheels.
Tbh, whilst everyone gives Archie shit, you two are clearly friends and it would be a bit boring with just one person in the video...
“The morning after”
Have you EQ’d the audio from the iPhone, cos the bass is missing and hence it sounds quite treble heavy, however when you were filming the dog and the golf, the warmth came back?
I had a gti performance pack then I brought an R the R is more fun and sounds better 😁
Bought.
3 years late lol 😂
The GTi is a 50 year classic, the R a good car none the less will come and go and won’t have the history the GTi has. The R is a good car however.
Fuck history bro, r is way faster especially from a dig its superr
Each to his own, it's all personal opinion. Golf R, more power, better handling, leather upholstery as standard, more aggressive stance and I prefer the styling on the R. Mine arrives in 5 weeks.
Golf R any day. I have one love it.
Edwin Gibbons you have a 2004 polo you're not fooling anyone
Kathmandu yes I do
Edwin Gibbons shut up mate u haven’t got a golf r
How comfortable are those seats? I would prefer the Art Velours.
Why not a clubsport?
It's supposed to be a daily, not a track car. This is a difference between golf and cars like type R and focus RS and so on, golf is much better at being a daily.
Who did you lease from pal? Thinking of selling my e46 M3 and getting one of these. Although the M3 is awesome, I miss the creature comforts (like cup holders) of a modern car!
sound quality was shit u should use a samsung phone thats way better
SPORTCARLUXURY should use the camera he always uses😂
I thought the GTI didn't come with a Digital cockpit or is that only available in the European market
So when’s it getting wrapped? And about a month later an exhaust?
you're iphone does weird, it looks like it is focusing the whole tima at 4:20
See if you pay monthly for a car, can you still mod it in terms of getting new wheels, new exhausts and things like that?
TGE & Archie vs JWW & STG. Who yah got ?
What's the score with modifying a leased car, I know you have done just you have to revert back to stock when 2 years up ?
Is it best to lease cars like golf gti,r, rs3 , a45, range rovers etc..., is lease any good what do you think ??
Quick question what’s the difference with the golf tsi??
What do you think about some winter trip with your daily cars? You with GTI, Archi with A45, Sam with CaymanS, Paul with M3, MrJWW RS6 or S1? Go on road trip to maybe Spain or some crazy destination for a week? I think that would be some mad content!!! Hope something like that we would see very soon!
TGE, If I head to London in my W12 Golf ‘04, will you do a feature?
I have Unitronic tuned Gti Mk VII, non PP. 280+ whp and an open diff (they are cheap used in the US). It's chaos when you floor it, especially if driving one-handed. How about a challenge for you and Archie trying this in central London traffic?
3 years later, but I've just bought my '16 plate PP with every extra, 50k miles under 15k GBP, just incredible bargains these cars.
Golf R all day long
Who's pressing the brake pedal at 8:12?
Golf R, stuck a maxton splitter on the front of mine yesterday, makes a massive difference to the looks!
Mk7.5 gti doesn’t have the dsg farts do they?
How's the gti like on fuel? Can you achieve +350 miles on a full tank by driving sensible.
There is no need to argue. They're both great cars just get the one that fits your need and budget
Where did you get such a good lease deal........coz I can’t find one that cheap....
Off topic, What's your views on tattoo's/sleeves?
One thing, why didn't you get the 3 door? Looks much better
Love the look of the GTI. Been looking at alternatives to the Focus ST3 and this is right up there. Can I ask what leasing company you used and rough payments. Tia
Not many people will notice, but he purposely got the video below the 10 minute marker type thing
the helper of the peopledems why. >10 min = £££
All about the mid-video ad! :)
Golf r is better for scotland as we get snow in the summer and fwd poor going up the cairn gorms
This is the second video I’ve seen of yours (first being the e63) so I have to ask why would you care about mpg if you drive a Lamborghini?
R is the better car but GTI is the one if you get a good deal. But I would still take the 1/240i over an R
but the Golf R has all wheel drive, you can actually plant the power down when you get it tuned
Gti or JCW what’s the better daily?
I had the R for two years and recently changed to a mk7.5 GTI, both DSG and although I miss the traction and power of the R, I’m really enjoying the 2wd fun that be had with the GTI, also spending a decent chunk less on fuel and paying less through financing, they’re both great to drive, I just don’t miss the R as much as I thought I would.
Josh Varley how much does fuel cost you monthly with daily driving the mk7.5 gti?
Whats the fuel consumption difference between r and gti
where did you get your deal from? and why do people beat on Archie? thanks
How well is the car holding up a year later?
The camera sucks for sure, more importantly I think it's the audio
I like the tint choice it’s tasteful and that color we never got in the US
Is there any option you would have put on in hindsight?
It’s good to go back to your old videos 😂. Would you get another GTi?
Obviously I'm outnumbered here. Most of you prefer the GTI over the golf r. I have owned an MK5 and MK6 GTi. They we're both great cars! It was fun to romp around as well as daily Drive in those gti's. That being said, I purchased an MK 7.5 Golf R and I can say without a doubt it is a massive Improvement! I live in the mountains so even our highways are twisty and you can feel the rear end push you around the turns when you're pushing it a little bit. Among many other reasons I would prefer a golf are one hundred percent of the time. But that's just one person's opinion🤷🏻
its like saying TT or TTS or 235i or M2Guess it's down to budget as always with cars but as for which is best it's usually the top of the range
Video quality is good but it’s like the sound from the front camera was recorded on a potato.
What brand is Archie's hoodie?
Name of the soundtrack at the beginning of the video please.
No golf R 2 door manual !
I just traded my r32 mk4 for a base gti 2015, I’m surprised how much I don’t miss my old r32!
I do miss my leather ! Those seats were amazing.
I borrowed a golf r stage 3 pushing 480bhp off a mate for 2 days in love with it,golf r all the way.boost bugs lol.I like the mark 6 twin exhaust in the middle 4 exhaust is a over kill.
And the Léon cupra or the 308 gti?
What is the brand of Archie’s hoodie ?
I like how he didn't bother making this in to a 10 min video, unlike those 10:01 guys.
Schumi why is that a problem to you? Everyone has to make money you bitch
Hi mate,
What lease company did you use?
are you using the front or the rear camera?
Drive a Golf R and then a Gti, no choice. Get a Gti. The Gti is worse in every way, still my choice.
Hey mate, what leasing firm did you use?
You got exactly same as me. Same paint extra and I wish I had got the bigger wheels too
Tom do you like the BMW M140i?
RicksView_1 That would be my choice 👍🏻
Thanks for your input! I will consider this when looking at cars.
Also what is the song at the start?
golf gti looks like wise man. Other hot hatches looks childish. Just my thoughts. Don't take it personally
200 a month? What leasing company did you use?
GTi performance pack for me. All the GTi heritage plus much improved handling and R brakes. Agree on the interior, I'm loving the tartan!
Here for the Tom & Archie show. It's not TGE TV without the Pigeon. Rah rah rah!
And how about the typical "rich man" video "buying a Christmas tree and putting it on my aventador roof" ??? 😜😜💪🏻💪🏻💯 lol
Red stitching is the vibe, my new car is in two weeks and thats got the Red added #TickedSomeBoxes
Who did you get your leasing plan from please?.
It's simple if you can afford it get the R if not the GTI is a great car! Wish they did the tartan seats in the R. Beautiful dog btw.
you sound ready for the sea with the hangover my hamster
I prefer the GTD styling to the GTI, however the Golf R looks best.
why not the gti clubsport?
The worst part of GTi and other FWD with a lot of Nm = wheelhop. Now I have Cupra 300 and thinking about Golf R because AWD and better interior quality.
What apr rates do you normally get on ur finance deals...
The quality is really good on the iPhone X. I love golf as a brand so all the models I'm a huge fan