CORRECTIONS: Annoyingly this one was recorded just BEFORE they announced the new 'Armour of Contempt' rule to reduce most AP by -1. Most things remain very similar, but here are a few more thoughts... - Storm shields are now a lot more passable, not useless, but no longer auto-include. - Anything with a 2+ armour save got a little better comparatively, and invulns saves are a little less important than before. - Very high AP things like hellblasters, eradicators are perhaps a little more valuable in combatting enemy Armour of Contempt. Let me know anything else you think has changed down in the comments!
With the Bodyguard rule change, Company Veterans are perhaps even less useful then they were before. Not the worst units but without the old bodyguard rule they're quite meh and can't really do the out of line of sight trick anymore and aren't any good vs. character snipers.
I’d also like to see how a lot of melee weapons stack up with armor of contempt. All melee weapons got a lot worse against power armor, with the worst hit arguably being the thunder hammer (going to ap -1 without assualt doctrine). For space marines, this can mean rushing to assault doctrine turn 3 or using strats or abilities to get there quickly will be really important for more melee focused marine armies. Also smash captains with thunder hammers won’t be as effective and, maybe, the burning blade will see some use so you can reliably cut through hard targets.
Why even bother with this? We know there's a new codex coming somewhere not too far down the road, probably before the poor Guard even see their first one. Armor of Contempt has also had enormous detrimental impact on low-AP weapons in the meta, so even in a Marine army all the -1 AP weapons are much worse than they were while the 0 AP stuff is marginally less dreadful by comparison. There are a lot of both in a Marine list. The fact that their vehicles also benefit makes them all significantly better since they're effectively getting a free +1 save against every single AT weapon in the game, as well as being less vulnerable to a lot of the massed low-AP shooting out there.
Auspex you’re putting out major length content with profuse editing with slides and images every other day and putting content out about newly announced products within 45 minutes of it being announced you are a freaking MACHINE. Omnissiah protect you!
I've only recently gotten into the hobby, finally got my marines built (500pts) and my Codex in. Videos like this are byond helpful to me, thanks for the quality content.
In Ultramarines, Aggressors with Flamestorm gauntlets can also serve as a nice anti charge threat. I often like to include them in castle builds to protect my more valuable assets from being charged, by using the "Defensive Focus" strategem
There is one unique benefit to a land raider: it can transport jump troops. I like using a standard land raider as a gun platform that can also launch vanguard veterans pretty far away.
@@BloodyArchangelus With 1cp "armour of contempt" stratagem that gives a 5+ fnp against MW, a land raider can tank a nice amount of mortal wounds for the army.
Honestly forget whirlwinds with the new indirect fire rule. I reckon they accidentally(?) buried every indirect artillery while trying to nerf Tau smart missiles. Might consider a Dark Angels whirlwind since our +1 to hit offsets the -1 to hit
Isn't it sad that a unit is expensive/nerfed enough that all it brings to table is its stratagem tho (which u still gotta pay with CP)? With -1 to hit and +1 to save on average its not even gonna kill single marine, couple of gretchins maybe
Very helpful - much appreciated! A lot us collect models slowly and have to make do with what we have, so having ideas for using the available troops effectively is welcome. You fight with the army you have, not the one you want :)
Armor of Contempt is giving me a lot of consideration for combat-squadding a 10-brick of Relic Terminators for my White Scars- half of them have all of the guns (Plas-blaster, Chaincannon, 2x Grenade Harnesses and 3 Storm Bolters, Lightning Claw in the other hand) and half have double Lightning Claw. For 350 points, you've got 5 guys 3W a pop with effectively a 1+ in cover putting down quite a bit of mixed firepower (they can even Advance and shoot without penalty at the cost of the Storm Bolters), and another 5 who are just straight punchers that hit as hard as Vanguard Veterans that can deepstrike into range of a Chaplain's Canticle of Hate to get +2 on the charge (or have a Librarian give them Ride the Winds for the same effect). The main drawback, of course, is that these fuckers are M 5". Even White Scars struggle to help them on that front.
im also very tempted by some terminators for my white scars now...the VV's have been great and also i really love bladeguard vets they punch so hard on T3 but tbh ive found I need to play cagey till turn 3 then counter charge so maybe the lack of movement isnt too bad!
Really appreciated but i really would have a similar video with "how to field every marine unit in every chapter" i have tons of marines still to build and paint and know where they could be better would be really useful. For example: hellbasters in dark angels, bladeguards in space wolves. White scars. Black templars etc.. and maybe why they're good with those chapters. I'm sure it will help a lot of people on building their list at the best combined with this video! However congrats as always, awesome video!
@@davidevirgulti1481 Absolutely just more time consuming, and Auspex does such a great damn job posting videos literally every day that I wouldn’t want to put a project like that on him.
This was fucking magical. I'm building my own home grown chapter around a Primaris only army. I have light armor/fast vehicals, and two of every foot slogging units. It flexible and speedy. Thank you again! 🔥🎸🎸
Id like to see videos like this in the future include even brief thoughts about how youd run them in Power Level, as I find your videos very informative but play exclusively Crusades because I like the storybuilding elements.
I do love Space Marines, heck I play Blood Angels for goodness sakes. But it would be kind of cool to see these in depth analysis guides for other factions like Eldar, Tau, IG, or Death Guard. But either or, thanks so much for the video’s.
Thank you for this, I am very new to Warhammer and just got my first small set of models, looking over them I have been very hesitant about how to make them because I noticed the details do matter when I eventually plan to use them in an actual game setting and this video was very helpful.
Ive recently been getting into the tabletop, been a huge fan for many years of the hobby. Recently bought an army worth $600+ for only $200 and been running it until i can get my Deathwing/Ravenwing army ready for Dark Angels! Love your channel, this really helps!
AMAZINGLY helpful! Like, seriously. Watching a lot of videos on Warhammer 40k, the lore I can generally follow, but all the reviews on units and starter boxes and so on largely was going over my head. At least with this video, I now feel equipped to watch Space Marine videos and have at least some idea of what is being discussed, and this might help me quite a lot with picking a starter/box set to get into the game with. Overall, amazingly great info and well presented. This is super useful. Thank you so much! (EDIT: Typos, whoops! Too excited, I guess. :)
my go too troops for a space wolves patrol is 2 squads of 5 assault ints in outflank and a 5 man squad of infiltrators for home obj screening. lots of fun. as for the stormraven gunship (the one that can transport 12 troops and a dread) I love stuffing it with 11 bloodclaws and lucas the trickster, before hanging my venerable dread with the blizzard shield and fenrisian great axe under it. not the most competative, since a smart opponent shoots it down turn 1-2 but its funny to throw it up the board with the ride of the valkyr playing on my phone xD
Thoughts on Ironclads in Dreadnought Drop Pods? Gets them close right off the bat (and with 2x heavy flamers can deal nasty damage as Salamanders). Also, using chainfist + DCCW for reroll 1s in melee combined with Master Artisans and Whirlwind of Rage gives 5A on the charge, rerolling all 1s and a 2, with exploding 6s, for flat 6 damage a pop into something big and heavy. The T8 has also been big for durability in my experience so far (all the S4 firepower goes to 6s to wound, S7 and S8 both take a -1 to wound and there is a lot of S8 AV firepower around), so it's a lot tougher than normal dreads when comparing to the shear wound durability of the Redemptor (which I would say definitely is better if you're starting off on the field).
I totally got the “ we’re in the dark” theme of the video. I also understand what you mean about, if you buy a model kit. It does add up to kill team sales. Brah, I believe you over the the target! It’s the only thing that make sense. I’ve felt this way a long time being a Templar. So what we had to do was buy space marines. Then change them to be us. Then they say, well if it isn’t 100% GW. You now can’t use them in a tournament. 😳 but it’s okay. Because now we’ll sale them to you again. Everybody goes out and buys them. Yep, we’re dead again. Nothing… and I get it. I DO want others to get there toys too. But I also feel, well in the dark. Thx again for the content and if you’re reading this comment? I’d like to get you a double hello. 👋👋
The flyers can be really good if you take one and snipe any low cost units your opponent left on the rear objectives! also if your playing against things like tank commanders, you can always move behind the tank commander and charge it so the tank commander won't be able to shoot a demolisher cannon
I really liked this. Im a new player and this kinda helps me make my favorite units be useful. Most of my units ive picked for appearance so this helps alot
For anyone who would like to field scouts but have an issue with their aesthetics, I used a box of the necromunda enforcers, as " Primaris scouts." They are really nice looking and have stuff like shotguns and sniper rifles perfect!
You know what I just remembered "Armour of Contempt" is also a name for a Space Marine Stratagem (1CP: Vehicle gains 5+ FNP vs mortals) that's not confusing at all 'sarcasm'
I think with Armour of Contempt Gravis Captains are going to be a lot better since they still get a +4 invul from their iron halo but don't lose Armour of Contempt like Shield Captain does, on top of being T5 W7 with quite a wide variety of weapon options now for a Primaris unit.
@@joshuajury5481 only units that have storm shields. So base terminators have 2+/5++, in cover they get to add 1 to their armor save and AoC takes one off the AP of the incoming fire. So a melta effectively is only ap-2 against them and they get to save on a 4+
I've used assault centurions in strategic reserves with a jump pack librarian to relatively decent success. Managed to one shot the silent king with that particular combo once, equipped with the hurricane bolters and flamethrowers You can pop veil of time on them with your librarian, as well as null zone to eliminate invul saves from units. Makes it quite a scary combination.
I generally run a 3-4 man bike squad with chainswords in addition to an attack bike with multi-melta. It's a pretty good all rounder with the twin bolter gun shots and can even offer some decent fast moving melee. But for my iron hands it's truthfully great protection for the attack bike while it's a cheeky heavy weapon putting some damage on the opposition, the bikes offer a protection of bodies.
Definitely in terms of old rules vs new rules... The thing that hurt Space Wopves a ton... Was losing the Mounted Iron Priest Biker. Watching all your Marines / Wolves videos... I can really see how useful it would be to have that Iron Priest, mounted on a bike, riding by your vehicles, rolling with the cyber wolf escort. Keeping these vehicles alive on the move was amazing utility, and perhaps a thing that's missing in this 9th, great you have a techmarine, how do you keep it in range of your vehicles on the move? Do you play a sort of front line back line game, advancing with some vehicles, retreating them for repairs at the techmarine castle? Or do you focus on dreadnoughts instead...
Idea for a video. what about a serie about unit that are currently underperforming and how GW could tweak them to make them more playable without changing their points cost too much. Example, the hammerfall bunker is not really worth it, but if they had the death from above ability, they would be awesome.
Since the indirect nerf about storm shield, i wonder about playing 6 centurions instead of my 10 terminators with shield and hammer, all in Black templars. They are pretty interesting with more PV and a better toughness. Contrary to assault terminators they have a pretty good shoot phase. The sergeant keep an insane save thanks to Heinmann and the vow's invul. Do you think it's a good idea ?
Yeah, I wouldn't even run thunder hammers with assault termies anymore. The shield's 4+ invul is still worth considering for most units, but terminators have a 2+ save and a 5+ invul already built in, so I personally don't think the hammer loadout is worth the points anymore. You'll get more out of the centurions, especially because the centurion squad is a full 100 points cheaper than the termies (if you don't take meltas), so you could even take something like a bike squad on top of it.
I actually would not even bother with the invuln vow now, 5++ and semi transhuman is far less useful than auto wounding or always on assault doctrine. I mean if you are running 2+ save models the 5++ will only matter against ap -5 or more. Not to mention you lose cover. Edit: Also the icon does not work with Armour of contempt since it modifies the ap of the attack.
I do think Scout Bikes have a home in Black Templars lists... 3-4 attacks on the charge and 6 shots apiece (2 of which can be Damage 2 with Incendiary Shells) makes for a pretty good in-your-face unit with a long threat range. If you're taking a big unit, it can be hard to keep them concealed if you go second, but being able to move up 22" and dump 54 shots on something (or several somethings) is pretty good. Outflank and Shoot/Charge can be pretty good too, especially if you have a big enough unit that you weren't going to be able to keep them safe until they could get into combat.
I might be wrong, but the raven guard strat infiltrators could also help the invictor get out of a sticky situation if you end up going second, just to get it back behind cover or something.
Just getting back into 40k after ignoring it since fairly early in 8th edition, and preparing now for 10th. I have a fairly large collection of unassembled squads and this gave me a good starting point for determining load out although I am sure things will change once the new point varies for 10th are released
I think Servitors and Scout bikes got the biggest buff from Armour of Contempt... with the biggest winner oddly being the Land Speeder Storm. The way the game is points priced Storms are now preferable to other outflank options
There are some Greenwing Dark Angel Primaris units that are worth looking into for Shooting and Fighting. For example, Aggressors can shoot while engaged at BS 5+ during the Tactical Doctrine with a +1 to hit if they didn't move, which doesn't matter if you took flamers or you could go with Storm Bolters, hitting on 4+ or 5+ while engaged and gaining the extra -1 AP for the Doctrine plus they have the Power Fists and Grenade Launchers. Dark Angel Eradicators can also Shoot while engaged if they are equipped with the Assault versions. Both units are Gravis which gives them the bonus armor save. Dark Angels BGV with Transhuman are also decent Staple. For DA Intercessors I prefer the Rapid-Fire version since they like to stand still for the +1 to hit and can shoot them while engaged. Anything with Plasma in volume, preferably with Vehicles, is good for the WotDA strat. Ezekial is an auto include and Lazarus for the Save vs MWs. This is with the Armor of Contempt in mind.
Problem with Greenwing is that it's a reactive army. You're holding still to shoot.. so you're not chasing objectives, and simply hoping your opponent is dumb enough to charge your shooty units.
Chaplains for blood angels is very great and really buffs you charges just like Lemartes for the Death Company units. Also them talking shit and taunting with holy quotes is pretty fun in when you battle brothers start to go insane from space ptsd or the black rage in 40k
For the Assault Intercessor you forgot the power of the genes (1CP) : the hit of 6 automatically wounds. You pay it once , spam A on charge , and if it's not enought you can fight again under the stratagem without paying him a second time !
I really wish they would do something beneficial with landraiders, rhinos, predators and vindicators. I know they are vehicles that have been surpassed by The newer stuff but they are still the main tanks and transports for the heretic astartes which suffer from the lack lust intrest in fixing them units in the space marines book. They either need a rules write for chaos only or bring out new tank and transport kits for the spiky bios.
Thank you so much! I'm learning how to play finally, I've been building xenos for my son for some time now. This should help me figure out how to "get the moat out of my 40K models on the battle field"? Dad joke, I'm allowed.
Just one small discrepancy in this awesome video. Stormtalon Gunship does not have access to Twin Heavy Plasma Cannons. Only the Stormraven. From a plasma weapon player.😊
I was thinking of picking up a BLA Lib Terminator, and a 10 man BLA Terminator Assault Squad. They all deepstrike and the librarian casts unleash the rage on them and has the BLA charge relic to make them amazing line breakers as my bladeguards and warlord relic captain advance up the board.
Yup, so... Perhaps... A kill Spectrus team with... 4 eliminators with your favorite weapon load out. Combat Squad them with the Infiltrator Comms Array model. Grant the Elim unit omni scrambler to edge out deep strikes. Gain the buffs from Phobos Capt/LT without needing to keep one of them nearby... The infiltrator combat squad, perhaps with a reiver or an incursor... Can deploy as necessary appears that the incursor will retain concealed positions... Does the unit benefit from Concelaed or Grapnel or Death from above... If mixed? 1 I cursor for the multispectrum array? Only if it applies to the eliminator... Which it seems it does not? In which case, Swap it out for a spare infiltrator or one reiver...
I tried a Phobos synergy recently and can absolutely agree, Comms Array isn't worth building around. To keep applicable, you need a phobos captain and a phobos lieutenant, neither of which is incredibly useful. Even the obscuration discipline working on Keyword Phobos wasn't enough to balance the loss of two HQ slots.
Eliminators with las fusils and sgt w/carbine screen your backline and provide a non-interactive threat of effectively 2 lascannons hitting on 3+. I think even Raven Guard/successors would prefer las fusils over bolts.
Can you discuss the various power weapons with armour of contempt, thunder hammers feel much weaker, are power fists better now for example on vanguards. For wulfen is the great axe better than the SS/TH combo?
I really wish there was more Chaos related material / vidoes. But can understand these are probably all on hold till the new codex. As a new player - googling for Chaos videos / information ones like this type are super rare / outdated :(
5:00 I WISH we could put jump packs on assault intercessors. currently there's no primaris unit that can jump pack into a fight with melee weapons and as a BA player that does spiritual damage.
This is an odd request but could you do a video on whether to field units of 3 or units of 6 as I'm currently struggling to weigh up pros and cons with my skorpek destroyers. Thanks :) love the video for my space marines!
I am certainly no competitive player, but for Intercessors: a 10-guy blob with a Power-Hammer on the Sgt. has worried most of my opponents most of the time. Especially when they charge in with the Auto-Boltrifles and just spray n pray down everything Up until now, the Hammer has one-clapped everything in its way
My entire army is auto bolters with huge black knight squads and its perfectly viable. You shred everything with you 10 man intercessors at range and charge check with black knight hordes.
I'd personally use the land speeder storm with the scouts with shotguns then as a mobile gun platform because it's open topped High speed alright firepower from scouts and the speeder itselft
I question though, how long will these be viable? Specifically for the Firstborn range, since it's 50/50 if they're all going away or not, because of the huge rotation we experienced recently
I think you have a way while before the whole Firstborn range gets deleted ,but some of the less popular choices will definetely go. So some of the characters ,Scouts , the worst vehicles etc
@@frostedbutts4340 they won’t get rid of the vehicles while they’ve got direct parallels in the Chaos range. Plus: gotta have land raiders to transport terminators.
@@roryokane5907 Very true, I figured that would be the case essentially, as long as Chaos still keeps their act together. I'm with you on the Land Raider and termites part, I do the same with my Blood Angels for them and they work out really great. Questionable how they got rid of the commander box, even though that's still in the Chaos range too
When it comes to Devastators, I wonder whether it's a good idea or not to wait till Turn2 before dropping them in as Ultramarines, for that sweet 3+ BS
Still -1 after moving even if there ultras now so no point waiting till turn 2 to drop pod them may as well have them on board hidden behind cover for the redelpoy then they get the counts as stationary after moving it does not work any more if you come in from reserves
They have faq it so that when coming in from reserves, you are always treated as having moved even if you have a rule or ability that lets you treat yourself as being stationary.
I feel like the land raider could use making firstborns one model, primaris 2 models, termites 3 and cents 4. I’d still hate it because I can’t use primaris crusaders in the crusaders pattern but at least it would be more usable with primaris
Lt.s especially and captains as well. I wonder why you skipped the Phobos Lt + Captain, placed inside the gun castle... Or accompanying the dreadnoughts... With the Phobos unit that gets COMMS to enjoy the Capt / LT AURAS anywhere on board... This let's the inexpensive forward threat do its job on the front line or enemy flanks... , with buff from their leaders anywhere, without risking the captains, LTs on front line... While they do double duty with the backline shooting threats?
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CORRECTIONS: Annoyingly this one was recorded just BEFORE they announced the new 'Armour of Contempt' rule to reduce most AP by -1. Most things remain very similar, but here are a few more thoughts...
- Storm shields are now a lot more passable, not useless, but no longer auto-include.
- Anything with a 2+ armour save got a little better comparatively, and invulns saves are a little less important than before.
- Very high AP things like hellblasters, eradicators are perhaps a little more valuable in combatting enemy Armour of Contempt.
Let me know anything else you think has changed down in the comments!
With the Bodyguard rule change, Company Veterans are perhaps even less useful then they were before. Not the worst units but without the old bodyguard rule they're quite meh and can't really do the out of line of sight trick anymore and aren't any good vs. character snipers.
You should do this with the new Tyranid units!
I’d also like to see how a lot of melee weapons stack up with armor of contempt. All melee weapons got a lot worse against power armor, with the worst hit arguably being the thunder hammer (going to ap -1 without assualt doctrine).
For space marines, this can mean rushing to assault doctrine turn 3 or using strats or abilities to get there quickly will be really important for more melee focused marine armies.
Also smash captains with thunder hammers won’t be as effective and, maybe, the burning blade will see some use so you can reliably cut through hard targets.
Why even bother with this? We know there's a new codex coming somewhere not too far down the road, probably before the poor Guard even see their first one. Armor of Contempt has also had enormous detrimental impact on low-AP weapons in the meta, so even in a Marine army all the -1 AP weapons are much worse than they were while the 0 AP stuff is marginally less dreadful by comparison. There are a lot of both in a Marine list. The fact that their vehicles also benefit makes them all significantly better since they're effectively getting a free +1 save against every single AT weapon in the game, as well as being less vulnerable to a lot of the massed low-AP shooting out there.
Could you do this with every army? (I know big ask for the time it must take!) Think this would be a super interesting series to watch :)
Auspex you’re putting out major length content with profuse editing with slides and images every other day and putting content out about newly announced products within 45 minutes of it being announced you are a freaking MACHINE.
Omnissiah protect you!
id love to see this video but for chapter specific untis
I see what you did there!
I've only recently gotten into the hobby, finally got my marines built (500pts) and my Codex in. Videos like this are byond helpful to me, thanks for the quality content.
I’m in the same spot with Orks!
What chapter are you building?
I've just finished my first year in 40k! 3000 points of Space Wolves!
Welcome to the hobby!
Welcome, Brother! And also White Scars are only good chapter the rest are for dorks
Same here with tyranids, just received the new codex and combat patrol
An hour-long Auspex about Space Marines？Truly the Emperor has blessed us this day
Emperor protects
*Grumpy CSM player that watches it anyway*
I have willed Auspex into an hour long video
It would be amazing if these became a series m, where you showed how to best use every unit for every faction in 40k.
More of these pls!
In Ultramarines, Aggressors with Flamestorm gauntlets can also serve as a nice anti charge threat. I often like to include them in castle builds to protect my more valuable assets from being charged, by using the "Defensive Focus" strategem
There is one unique benefit to a land raider: it can transport jump troops. I like using a standard land raider as a gun platform that can also launch vanguard veterans pretty far away.
That is an interesting strategy. I like it.
welcome to the 7 edition. but with amount of MW and D weapons you would be dead. as it was in 7 x)
I never thought about that one, about to print me one asap 🔥
@@BloodyArchangelus With 1cp "armour of contempt" stratagem that gives a 5+ fnp against MW, a land raider can tank a nice amount of mortal wounds for the army.
@@t0k3p0k3 now tank eldar knight. with 6+d3 shots xD
Recently returned to the hobby after being out for about ten years and these videos are great as a catchup resource
Honestly forget whirlwinds with the new indirect fire rule. I reckon they accidentally(?) buried every indirect artillery while trying to nerf Tau smart missiles. Might consider a Dark Angels whirlwind since our +1 to hit offsets the -1 to hit
Just get a land speeder
Who gets whirlwinds for damage? Suppression fire is the only reason I ever even glanced at them :)
@@nobady9752 exactly. Hold a backfield objective and provide suppressing fire while closing the gap with melee boys for the glory of Sanguinius.
They just need to hit to be useful
Isn't it sad that a unit is expensive/nerfed enough that all it brings to table is its stratagem tho (which u still gotta pay with CP)? With -1 to hit and +1 to save on average its not even gonna kill single marine, couple of gretchins maybe
Very helpful - much appreciated! A lot us collect models slowly and have to make do with what we have, so having ideas for using the available troops effectively is welcome. You fight with the army you have, not the one you want :)
Armor of Contempt is giving me a lot of consideration for combat-squadding a 10-brick of Relic Terminators for my White Scars- half of them have all of the guns (Plas-blaster, Chaincannon, 2x Grenade Harnesses and 3 Storm Bolters, Lightning Claw in the other hand) and half have double Lightning Claw.
For 350 points, you've got 5 guys 3W a pop with effectively a 1+ in cover putting down quite a bit of mixed firepower (they can even Advance and shoot without penalty at the cost of the Storm Bolters), and another 5 who are just straight punchers that hit as hard as Vanguard Veterans that can deepstrike into range of a Chaplain's Canticle of Hate to get +2 on the charge (or have a Librarian give them Ride the Winds for the same effect).
The main drawback, of course, is that these fuckers are M 5". Even White Scars struggle to help them on that front.
im also very tempted by some terminators for my white scars now...the VV's have been great and also i really love bladeguard vets they punch so hard on T3 but tbh ive found I need to play cagey till turn 3 then counter charge so maybe the lack of movement isnt too bad!
Is that to get through AoC? Since they don't benefit from AoC
@@joshuajury5481 ???
Yeah they do. Why wouldn't terminators without shields benefit from AoC?
@@PhantomJavelin I misunderstood AoC, thought units with Invuln saves didn't get it
Was about to start a Imperial Fist army with no knowledge of space marines on the tabletop , this was super useful!
Really appreciated but i really would have a similar video with "how to field every marine unit in every chapter" i have tons of marines still to build and paint and know where they could be better would be really useful. For example: hellbasters in dark angels, bladeguards in space wolves. White scars. Black templars etc.. and maybe why they're good with those chapters. I'm sure it will help a lot of people on building their list at the best combined with this video! However congrats as always, awesome video!
Only unfortunate downside there is that that particular video more than likely would either be like 6 hours or a series
@@magtag6879 not a too complicated video, just like this but with chapters and because, or more deep with a series of videos like you're saying
@@davidevirgulti1481 Absolutely just more time consuming, and Auspex does such a great damn job posting videos literally every day that I wouldn’t want to put a project like that on him.
This was fucking magical.
I'm building my own home grown chapter around a Primaris only army. I have light armor/fast vehicals, and two of every foot slogging units. It flexible and speedy.
Thank you again!
🔥🎸🎸
Heavy Intercessors are great! Higher T, 1 more W, longer range and S and access to the Gravis strat. Worth imo.
Id like to see videos like this in the future include even brief thoughts about how youd run them in Power Level, as I find your videos very informative but play exclusively Crusades because I like the storybuilding elements.
I do love Space Marines, heck I play Blood Angels for goodness sakes. But it would be kind of cool to see these in depth analysis guides for other factions like Eldar, Tau, IG, or Death Guard. But either or, thanks so much for the video’s.
Thank you for this, I am very new to Warhammer and just got my first small set of models, looking over them I have been very hesitant about how to make them because I noticed the details do matter when I eventually plan to use them in an actual game setting and this video was very helpful.
Ive recently been getting into the tabletop, been a huge fan for many years of the hobby. Recently bought an army worth $600+ for only $200 and been running it until i can get my Deathwing/Ravenwing army ready for Dark Angels!
Love your channel, this really helps!
I haven’t had a chance to play a game of 9th yet. This is hugely helpful, thank you!
AMAZINGLY helpful!
Like, seriously.
Watching a lot of videos on Warhammer 40k, the lore I can generally follow, but all the reviews on units and starter boxes and so on largely was going over my head. At least with this video, I now feel equipped to watch Space Marine videos and have at least some idea of what is being discussed, and this might help me quite a lot with picking a starter/box set to get into the game with.
Overall, amazingly great info and well presented. This is super useful. Thank you so much!
(EDIT: Typos, whoops! Too excited, I guess. :)
Thanks for these kind of videos - it’s nice to see a tactic video that helps with the units I actually have in my collection!
my go too troops for a space wolves patrol is 2 squads of 5 assault ints in outflank and a 5 man squad of infiltrators for home obj screening. lots of fun.
as for the stormraven gunship (the one that can transport 12 troops and a dread) I love stuffing it with 11 bloodclaws and lucas the trickster, before hanging my venerable dread with the blizzard shield and fenrisian great axe under it. not the most competative, since a smart opponent shoots it down turn 1-2 but its funny to throw it up the board with the ride of the valkyr playing on my phone xD
These are very helpful videos, I hope to see more of them.
Thoughts on Ironclads in Dreadnought Drop Pods? Gets them close right off the bat (and with 2x heavy flamers can deal nasty damage as Salamanders). Also, using chainfist + DCCW for reroll 1s in melee combined with Master Artisans and Whirlwind of Rage gives 5A on the charge, rerolling all 1s and a 2, with exploding 6s, for flat 6 damage a pop into something big and heavy. The T8 has also been big for durability in my experience so far (all the S4 firepower goes to 6s to wound, S7 and S8 both take a -1 to wound and there is a lot of S8 AV firepower around), so it's a lot tougher than normal dreads when comparing to the shear wound durability of the Redemptor (which I would say definitely is better if you're starting off on the field).
I dunno man.. the drop pod is pretty expensive and you really want a Chaplain or some way of making sure he gets into combat.
I totally got the “ we’re in the dark” theme of the video. I also understand what you mean about, if you buy a model kit. It does add up to kill team sales. Brah, I believe you over the the target! It’s the only thing that make sense. I’ve felt this way a long time being a Templar. So what we had to do was buy space marines. Then change them to be us. Then they say, well if it isn’t 100% GW. You now can’t use them in a tournament. 😳 but it’s okay. Because now we’ll sale them to you again. Everybody goes out and buys them. Yep, we’re dead again. Nothing… and I get it. I DO want others to get there toys too. But I also feel, well in the dark. Thx again for the content and if you’re reading this comment? I’d like to get you a double hello. 👋👋
The flyers can be really good if you take one and snipe any low cost units your opponent left on the rear objectives! also if your playing against things like tank commanders, you can always move behind the tank commander and charge it so the tank commander won't be able to shoot a demolisher cannon
I really liked this. Im a new player and this kinda helps me make my favorite units be useful. Most of my units ive picked for appearance so this helps alot
For anyone who would like to field scouts but have an issue with their aesthetics, I used a box of the necromunda enforcers, as " Primaris scouts."
They are really nice looking and have stuff like shotguns and sniper rifles perfect!
You know what I just remembered "Armour of Contempt" is also a name for a Space Marine Stratagem (1CP: Vehicle gains 5+ FNP vs mortals) that's not confusing at all 'sarcasm'
I think with Armour of Contempt Gravis Captains are going to be a lot better since they still get a +4 invul from their iron halo but don't lose Armour of Contempt like Shield Captain does, on top of being T5 W7 with quite a wide variety of weapon options now for a Primaris unit.
Yeah and get can take things like Teeth of Terra or the 2+ / extra wound relic armor
It also should be said that terminators in cover, now that they have Armor of Contempt, are absolutely *monstrous* and so damn hard to shift
I thought units with Invuln saves don't get AoC?
@@joshuajury5481 only units that have storm shields. So base terminators have 2+/5++, in cover they get to add 1 to their armor save and AoC takes one off the AP of the incoming fire. So a melta effectively is only ap-2 against them and they get to save on a 4+
Armor of Contempt is a huge change
Love your stuff dude. Your explanations are top notch!
I don't play Space Marines but it's Auspex so I'm still gonna watch
I've used assault centurions in strategic reserves with a jump pack librarian to relatively decent success. Managed to one shot the silent king with that particular combo once, equipped with the hurricane bolters and flamethrowers You can pop veil of time on them with your librarian, as well as null zone to eliminate invul saves from units. Makes it quite a scary combination.
I generally run a 3-4 man bike squad with chainswords in addition to an attack bike with multi-melta. It's a pretty good all rounder with the twin bolter gun shots and can even offer some decent fast moving melee. But for my iron hands it's truthfully great protection for the attack bike while it's a cheeky heavy weapon putting some damage on the opposition, the bikes offer a protection of bodies.
Definitely in terms of old rules vs new rules...
The thing that hurt Space Wopves a ton...
Was losing the Mounted Iron Priest Biker.
Watching all your Marines / Wolves videos...
I can really see how useful it would be to have that Iron Priest, mounted on a bike, riding by your vehicles, rolling with the cyber wolf escort.
Keeping these vehicles alive on the move was amazing utility, and perhaps a thing that's missing in this 9th, great you have a techmarine, how do you keep it in range of your vehicles on the move?
Do you play a sort of front line back line game, advancing with some vehicles, retreating them for repairs at the techmarine castle?
Or do you focus on dreadnoughts instead...
Idea for a video. what about a serie about unit that are currently underperforming and how GW could tweak them to make them more playable without changing their points cost too much.
Example, the hammerfall bunker is not really worth it, but if they had the death from above ability, they would be awesome.
Since the indirect nerf about storm shield, i wonder about playing 6 centurions instead of my 10 terminators with shield and hammer, all in Black templars. They are pretty interesting with more PV and a better toughness. Contrary to assault terminators they have a pretty good shoot phase. The sergeant keep an insane save thanks to Heinmann and the vow's invul. Do you think it's a good idea ?
Yeah, I wouldn't even run thunder hammers with assault termies anymore. The shield's 4+ invul is still worth considering for most units, but terminators have a 2+ save and a 5+ invul already built in, so I personally don't think the hammer loadout is worth the points anymore. You'll get more out of the centurions, especially because the centurion squad is a full 100 points cheaper than the termies (if you don't take meltas), so you could even take something like a bike squad on top of it.
Both are slow enough to just be ignored so centurions are probably better for their shooting.
I actually would not even bother with the invuln vow now, 5++ and semi transhuman is far less useful than auto wounding or always on assault doctrine. I mean if you are running 2+ save models the 5++ will only matter against ap -5 or more. Not to mention you lose cover.
Edit: Also the icon does not work with Armour of contempt since it modifies the ap of the attack.
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I do think Scout Bikes have a home in Black Templars lists... 3-4 attacks on the charge and 6 shots apiece (2 of which can be Damage 2 with Incendiary Shells) makes for a pretty good in-your-face unit with a long threat range. If you're taking a big unit, it can be hard to keep them concealed if you go second, but being able to move up 22" and dump 54 shots on something (or several somethings) is pretty good. Outflank and Shoot/Charge can be pretty good too, especially if you have a big enough unit that you weren't going to be able to keep them safe until they could get into combat.
I might be wrong, but the raven guard strat infiltrators could also help the invictor get out of a sticky situation if you end up going second, just to get it back behind cover or something.
Box dreads ain't bad. They're cheaper and they don't have degrading brackets. Plain old Contempter with melta pretty nice for salamanders.....
Would love to see this style of vid for faction eventually
Also, super amazing inside death watch kill teams that bring the comms.
Great vid, would love this also on other armies
Great job sir. Very informative
Just getting back into 40k after ignoring it since fairly early in 8th edition, and preparing now for 10th. I have a fairly large collection of unassembled squads and this gave me a good starting point for determining load out although I am sure things will change once the new point varies for 10th are released
If you do one of these for Aeldari/Craftworld I'll absolutely have to become a patron.
Fantastic work bud! I'll be looking forward to the Death Guard version.
EVERY MARINE UNIT
This is why we love you Mr A Tactics.
I think Servitors and Scout bikes got the biggest buff from Armour of Contempt... with the biggest winner oddly being the Land Speeder Storm. The way the game is points priced Storms are now preferable to other outflank options
"How do you field a repulsor?"
That's the great thing about it. You dont!
Haha I got one basically free in a bulk lot.. will have to play it at least once
There are some Greenwing Dark Angel Primaris units that are worth looking into for Shooting and Fighting. For example, Aggressors can shoot while engaged at BS 5+ during the Tactical Doctrine with a +1 to hit if they didn't move, which doesn't matter if you took flamers or you could go with Storm Bolters, hitting on 4+ or 5+ while engaged and gaining the extra -1 AP for the Doctrine plus they have the Power Fists and Grenade Launchers. Dark Angel Eradicators can also Shoot while engaged if they are equipped with the Assault versions. Both units are Gravis which gives them the bonus armor save.
Dark Angels BGV with Transhuman are also decent Staple. For DA Intercessors I prefer the Rapid-Fire version since they like to stand still for the +1 to hit and can shoot them while engaged. Anything with Plasma in volume, preferably with Vehicles, is good for the WotDA strat.
Ezekial is an auto include and Lazarus for the Save vs MWs.
This is with the Armor of Contempt in mind.
It's not a chapter specific vid that would be way too long
Problem with Greenwing is that it's a reactive army. You're holding still to shoot.. so you're not chasing objectives, and simply hoping your opponent is dumb enough to charge your shooty units.
Thank you for this one!
Chaplains for blood angels is very great and really buffs you charges just like Lemartes for the Death Company units. Also them talking shit and taunting with holy quotes is pretty fun in when you battle brothers start to go insane from space ptsd or the black rage in 40k
For the Assault Intercessor you forgot the power of the genes (1CP) : the hit of 6 automatically wounds.
You pay it once , spam A on charge , and if it's not enought you can fight again under the stratagem without paying him a second time !
I really wish they would do something beneficial with landraiders, rhinos, predators and vindicators. I know they are vehicles that have been surpassed by The newer stuff but they are still the main tanks and transports for the heretic astartes which suffer from the lack lust intrest in fixing them units in the space marines book.
They either need a rules write for chaos only or bring out new tank and transport kits for the spiky bios.
I think transports are mostly just dead this edition
Hell ya pumped you are back to making some SM content!!
Comment for the algorithm. Great job dude
Great video mate, I think the Gunship Flyer is called the Stormraven as opposed to the Stormtalon.
Thank you so much! I'm learning how to play finally, I've been building xenos for my son for some time now.
This should help me figure out how to "get the moat out of my 40K models on the battle field"?
Dad joke, I'm allowed.
Just one small discrepancy in this awesome video. Stormtalon Gunship does not have access to Twin Heavy Plasma Cannons. Only the Stormraven. From a plasma weapon player.😊
I was thinking of picking up a BLA Lib Terminator, and a 10 man BLA Terminator Assault Squad. They all deepstrike and the librarian casts unleash the rage on them and has the BLA charge relic to make them amazing line breakers as my bladeguards and warlord relic captain advance up the board.
Thanks for this video, such a great channel.
That's one for a painting session 😁
Yup, so... Perhaps... A kill Spectrus team with...
4 eliminators with your favorite weapon load out. Combat Squad them with the Infiltrator Comms Array model.
Grant the Elim unit omni scrambler to edge out deep strikes.
Gain the buffs from Phobos Capt/LT without needing to keep one of them nearby...
The infiltrator combat squad, perhaps with a reiver or an incursor... Can deploy as necessary appears that the incursor will retain concealed positions... Does the unit benefit from Concelaed or Grapnel or Death from above... If mixed?
1 I cursor for the multispectrum array? Only if it applies to the eliminator... Which it seems it does not?
In which case,
Swap it out for a spare infiltrator or one reiver...
I tried a Phobos synergy recently and can absolutely agree, Comms Array isn't worth building around.
To keep applicable, you need a phobos captain and a phobos lieutenant, neither of which is incredibly useful.
Even the obscuration discipline working on Keyword Phobos wasn't enough to balance the loss of two HQ slots.
I will now refer to the heavy onslaught canon as a HOG Canon.
Really awesome work m8 thanks
Eliminators with las fusils and sgt w/carbine screen your backline and provide a non-interactive threat of effectively 2 lascannons hitting on 3+. I think even Raven Guard/successors would prefer las fusils over bolts.
Can you discuss the various power weapons with armour of contempt, thunder hammers feel much weaker, are power fists better now for example on vanguards. For wulfen is the great axe better than the SS/TH combo?
1:00:45 imagine if you could deep strike those turn 1? For 145 points you could have instant line of sight blocking terrain where you want it.
I really wish there was more Chaos related material / vidoes. But can understand these are probably all on hold till the new codex. As a new player - googling for Chaos videos / information ones like this type are super rare / outdated :(
the last flyer is Stormraven Gunship, not a second Stormtalon 😄
5:00 I WISH we could put jump packs on assault intercessors. currently there's no primaris unit that can jump pack into a fight with melee weapons and as a BA player that does spiritual damage.
Curious about your thoughts after armor of contempt on Space Wolves units like WG termies, Wulfen and TWC.
Look at that elites section! Elitist!
I learned alot thank you!
very very useful thank you very much!
“Yeeting it into combat”
Chaos codex on this subject would be great
This is an odd request but could you do a video on whether to field units of 3 or units of 6 as I'm currently struggling to weigh up pros and cons with my skorpek destroyers. Thanks :) love the video for my space marines!
Love these videos!
It's wild though with the centurions cuz it seems like every time I see them in a IF Army they're running them as assault with drills and melta.
I run all heavy bolters and storm bolters with one having a single las cannon.
I am certainly no competitive player, but for Intercessors: a 10-guy blob with a Power-Hammer on the Sgt. has worried most of my opponents most of the time. Especially when they charge in with the Auto-Boltrifles and just spray n pray down everything
Up until now, the Hammer has one-clapped everything in its way
My entire army is auto bolters with huge black knight squads and its perfectly viable. You shred everything with you 10 man intercessors at range and charge check with black knight hordes.
I would love a similar video for imperial guard, I’m just starting krieg
PLEASE do Chaos SM next!!
I'd personally use the land speeder storm with the scouts with shotguns then as a mobile gun platform because it's open topped
High speed alright firepower from scouts and the speeder itselft
I question though, how long will these be viable? Specifically for the Firstborn range, since it's 50/50 if they're all going away or not, because of the huge rotation we experienced recently
I think you have a way while before the whole Firstborn range gets deleted ,but some of the less popular choices will definetely go. So some of the characters ,Scouts , the worst vehicles etc
@@frostedbutts4340 they won’t get rid of the vehicles while they’ve got direct parallels in the Chaos range. Plus: gotta have land raiders to transport terminators.
@@roryokane5907 Very true, I figured that would be the case essentially, as long as Chaos still keeps their act together. I'm with you on the Land Raider and termites part, I do the same with my Blood Angels for them and they work out really great. Questionable how they got rid of the commander box, even though that's still in the Chaos range too
When it comes to Devastators, I wonder whether it's a good idea or not to wait till Turn2 before dropping them in as Ultramarines, for that sweet 3+ BS
Still -1 after moving even if there ultras now so no point waiting till turn 2 to drop pod them may as well have them on board hidden behind cover for the redelpoy then they get the counts as stationary after moving it does not work any more if you come in from reserves
They have faq it so that when coming in from reserves, you are always treated as having moved even if you have a rule or ability that lets you treat yourself as being stationary.
@@kirklemmen2494 oh.... well that sucks
But thanks, I'd rather learn that fact now then during an important game XD
@@xuruiyu Blame those darn Xeno armies! Always missing it up for us Space Marine players!
Simple have an unlimited wallet.
you mean a credit card? lol
Or a decent 3D printer
When plastic Horus heresy comes out can you do a video about the units released in 40k
I feel like the land raider could use making firstborns one model, primaris 2 models, termites 3 and cents 4. I’d still hate it because I can’t use primaris crusaders in the crusaders pattern but at least it would be more usable with primaris
Have a lot of fun using wisdom of the ancients on Carab in my dreadnought castle and he becomes captain and lieutenant
Lt.s especially and captains as well.
I wonder why you skipped the Phobos Lt + Captain, placed inside the gun castle... Or accompanying the dreadnoughts...
With the Phobos unit that gets COMMS to enjoy the Capt / LT AURAS anywhere on board...
This let's the inexpensive forward threat do its job on the front line or enemy flanks... , with buff from their leaders anywhere, without risking the captains, LTs on front line... While they do double duty with the backline shooting threats?
do one of these for chaos / heretic astartes!
thank you
Feature length content from AT!