I'm so excited you've finally made it to Tegan, she's one of my all-time favourite companions. Sometimes she gets called out by fans for endlessly complaining but that fiery streak and willingness in her to challenge the Doctor is exactly why I enjoy her so much, that and how fiercely loyal she ends up being to both the Doctor and her fellow companions. While he does often veer into pantomime, Anthony Ainley is a terrific Master and that sinister chuckle of his is a huge part of the character's legacy. What fan didn't freak out when that same laugh came from Yana's fob watch in Utopia or when the Saxon-Master referenced the upcoming "please attend carefully" line? And the Master doesn't get enough credit for how scary he is here as this insidious killer lurking in the shadows and cold-bloodedly murdering random passers-by, unseen and only that infamous evil cackle signalling he was ever there at all...
Tegan is great. I think by the time we got to a future companion with the sixth Doctor the constant writing of Doctor/companion bickering had gotten to be very old hat. As far as Tony Ainley goes, he was the original Master to me (I wasn't around for Roger Delgado), and I reckon a lot of the way his performance ended up was down to the directors telling him to go for more, and not necessarily just his own choices.
Don't forget when 13 and Master are on the tower during WW2 and he says "Did I ever apologize for that? Good" or Missy and Simms saying "Did you fall?"
_Really_ geeky musical fun fact: in ep.2, when the TARDIS lands on the river barge, the rising arpeggio on the synthesiser is taken from Wagner's opera Das Rheingold, and signifies the river Rhine.
"We got to be prepared for the worst" - Logopolis is an epic finale to a superlative season, thanks to its weighty subject matter, foreboding atmosphere and the enormous sense of scale. What really makes this story excel is the phenomenal score by Paddy Kingsland, which perfectly adds to the foreboding, mysterious and haunting atmosphere. Janet Fielding as Tegan is one of the quintessential Classic Who companions and one of my personal favourites. Showrunner John Nathan-Turner introduced her as means of drawing in Australian audiences (JNT was all about hype and publicity).
It was too gratuitous, and Tegan is entitled to revenge. The NuWho Doctors trying to reform the Master or not wanting him to die betrayed Tegan, and more, and are a serious moral flaw in the Doctor.
@@davefm5559He was not moronic.You say about the guy who tried to summon the devil and do several other things that always ended up with him begging the doctor for help
@@conscienceaginBlackadderIt's not like the Doctor or any of the companions can actually talk.They all have A lot of blood on their hands Ace alone has killed hundreds
I endorse that sentiment. Take all the time you need to recharge and may you have an inspiring & relaxing time (Yes, it can be both). It's always a joy to watch (and re-watch) your reactions and to see a different perspective.
Fun fact: The location with the motorway Police Box is the Barnet bypass and it was chosen because it was one of the last remaining real Police Boxes left in the country. All was well on the location recce, however when the crew turned up to film they found that the box has been demolished and had to use the previous TARDIS prop to stand in for it 😅
Yes, the location was inspired by the producer noticing a real police box still standing on the Barnet Bypass. Unfortunately, by the time that production started, the police box had been demolished. They then chose the alternative filming location , roughly 25 miles away from Barnet, of the Amersham Road (A413), near Denham in Buckinghamshire. 🙂
@@sdball01 Ah, noted! First heard that story through the DVD commentary some years ago but it’s always struck me as odd that the location they claimed to be the Barnet bypass looked suspiciously unlike any photos I’d ever seen of it at the time. Now I know why 😁
It'd be ironic if the pre-existing police box had been demolished specifically because they were going to film there. Like "the BBC hired this intersection for a shoot of some kind, remove that piece of junk so they can use it."
The story that turned me into a fan back in 81. The Master was back, it was partly set on present day Earth, the mysterious watcher, the music. I loved it
I watched episode one live when it was originally broadcast in Feb 1981 in a room full of fans at a one day Dr Who Appreciation Society event. The atmosphere was electric!
It's difficult to spot, but when the Doctor first meets the Watcher you can tell the moment he's told (no spoilers) whatever he's told. Very cool moment. I recorded the audio to this story on it's transmission in 1981. I listened to it so often I could recite all the dialogue word-for-word.
Logopolis is one of the most iconic stories ever (Even though it's a bit thin on plot) the sense of tension and drama is one of parts that makes it great. Tegan is one of those companions who is consistent and has depth but has a personality that can be a bit divisive. Janet Fielding portays the character brilliantly but Tegan for a long time was one of my least favourite companions. In fact Power of the Doctor was the story that actually made me warm up to her and understand her motivation more. So Chibnall had that going for him! The Master is especially menacing in this story and I love the TCE in this episode. Logopolis is one of my favourite worlds. I love the civilisation and how it has an entire society built on Mathematics. It's a unique 'planet of hats' concepts.
I remember the first time I saw this story thinking that the Logopolitans' muttered computations sounded a lot like a 1980s era computer disk drive. I can still hear it today.
Watched your very first review of Doctor Who from 8 years ago (New Who - Rose). Your opinion - "OK, so that was very bizarre" How far you've come Sesska. Looking forward to your end of season review next week. Thanks for sticking with Doctor Who for such a long time.
I've been waiting for this ever since "Power of the Doctor"! (...as I'm sure many other people watching this were too.) Teagan has always been one of my favorite companions with her return in Jodie Whittaker's last story being one of the highlights since the shows revival in 2005. I have a million things I want to shout, but...spoilers... and yeah that music😮... ... I remember when I first saw this back in 82 I think it was. I was 12 years old and had been watching the show for about 2 years on my local PBS station Channel 6 CMU public broadcasting in Michigan. I was still in my first round of seeing any Doctor Who whatsoever. Like many PBS stations in the late 70s early 80s when Doctor Who really started taking off in the United States they started with Tom Baker, I knew nothing about the show beyond that. I had no idea what was about to happen or for that matter what was happening in this story as it was so out of the box for anything on television I'd ever seen up until this point. This is to me one of the shows central core lore stories with questions I had since Tom Baker's first story "Robot" getting finally answered. Season 18 through 22 is my favorite era of Doctor Who. Like many others with similar experiences, this story was the one that set the hook for us being fans forever, sort of like Stockholm Syndrome LOL. I say this not because it was bad, but because it was good, terribly good😢...🤭🤫🤐😔😥😭...Damn Michael Myers... I so love you for that! Laughter through tears is a wonderful thing. Thank you. You know... I wonder if Patty Kingsland ( pretty sure that was the composer, please someone correct me if I'm wrong) was inspired by John Carpenter's Halloween music? Very appropriate in a cheeky way. This Master posessing Tremas and his creeptastic laugh, the horrific way the police officer is dragged into the Police Box(which at the time I had no idea what one of those actually was)/"TARDIS", Tegan's Auntie unceremoniously murdered, the Watcher(Michael😅), etc, etc, and the SPOILERS... this next week is going to be even longer than the last one LOL I think your break is very well timed as you might need it after this one. "Brave heart..."...Sesska.😊😮😢
This was the first time in years (rooftop in The Sunmakers-?) to film in London-??? When the Doctor has his wacky idea to sink the TARDIS, landing on Cadogan Pier on the Thames. This pier on the side of Chelsea, opposite Battersea, has a Rock music heritage. The Clash filmed video for "London Calling' at night, in rain, on Cadogan Pier in 1979. The bridge, Albert Bridge has been filmed in a number of movies, including The Who's "Quadrophenia". The Irish/English band The Pogues had their ballad "early morning Albert Bridge". The 90's+ band Supergrass were filmed in video hopping on Po-go-stiks across the Albert "late in the Day" in 1997, across into Battersea Park, where there is a fine Buddhist shrine. Up the Thames, by a Half-mile is the Battersea Power Station, used on the cover of Pink Floyd's "animals" in 1977. (and seen in modern Who in a Cyberman episode) -I've been to London a number of times, over the years, and visited locations.
Never thought of that before but yes, you're correct, season 15 was the last time they had filmed in London. 👍 The actual rooftop location for 'The Sunmakers' was filmed on a tobacco factory in Bristol. However, they did film in the Deep Tube underground tunnels in Camden Town. Also, the TARDIS swimming pool scenes for 'The Invasion of Time' were filmed in Hammersmith. 🙂
@@davefm5559 He was hit-and-miss for me. I liked Sacha when his performance was more threatening and disliked him when his performance was more "zany". Except for the Rasputin dance. That was fun.
@@SuperClarky666 He is basically just Time Lord Joker in New Who which is nothing at all like the character was meant to be before New Who. So I'd say they ruined him yeah even though liking the new take is subjective. But tbf, they "ruined" the Doctor in much the same way. He's not even slightly the same character in New Who. Just the way it is now unfortunately.
Michael Myers sounds an awesome name for the man in white and the Doctor when he first sees him looks terrified and his face is white it was clear to me when I first saw Logopolis in 81 when I was aged 12 the Doctor knew this man in the white suit. The name of the actor playing the police inspector is Tom Georgeson when he was in Genesis of the Daleks as a Kaled scientist his character was called Kavell he was friends with Gharman and he like Gharman wanted to stop the evolution of the dreaded Daleks.
RIP Auntie Vanessa and the random policeman! Tegan is one of my ALL TIME favorite companions!!! Some people think she argues too much, but that's because she has Passion!! As for this story, CLASSIC!!! Very sciencey in its scifi, it makes you have to think out what the action really is. The tone is perfect!! - - - " . . . You just gonna watch?!" Wellll . . . .
Don't forget to slot in "K-9 and Company" in between this story and the next one "Castrovalva". Enjoy your break!! We waited 9 months between the seasons in 1981/82, so a few weeks is fine :)
Jess, I'm loving your theory that the "Michael Myers character" loitering in the background was somehow inspired by John Carpenter's Halloween film. Well, this serial was broadcast in 1981, 3 years after the film so, maybe!?!...😢😮😅😂😊
I’ve been waiting for this reaction. Can’t wait. Enjoy your break Jess and thank you so much. Love the reactions, and have done for many many years. Original and the best.
I love how scared you were of the Watcher. :D And you mentioned the Tardis spa! I think the only reason the Doctor wouldn't let you be a companion is because you'd say "this is some f*ckery" in every episode. I'm liking Adric more than I remember. His confusion about expressions like "standing on their heads" was very Jamie-like (and I'm sure some fans think it's sacrilege to compare Adric to Jamie). I'm so confused about how Tegan ended up on the Doctor's Tardis after she was on Traken though. The Doctor didn't go back to Traken and by that point, the two Tardises seemed to have "unlinked" from each other.
Nyssa? She mentioned that "the Doctor's friend" had brought her to Logopolis. The other Tardis belonged to the Master, it wasn't him who brought Nyssa. We find out who she means by "the Doctor's friend" later in the story.
@@paulhammond6978 No, Tegan. Tegan gets into the Doctor's Tardis on Earth and starts wandering around and getting lost, right? We don't actually see her get into the Master's Tardis but I'll let that slide because we can assume she just wandered in there while she was lost. However, she gets OUT of the Master's Tardis when it lands on Traken. She sits around for a little while, then presumably goes back into his Tardis when it lands again. The DOCTOR'S Tardis never lands on Traken. It goes from the boat on the Thames to Logopolis. But Tegan somehow gets into it on Traken.
For the most part I like Tegan. She doesn’t take crap. In some stories I want to yell at her to get ahold of herself cause she can get hysterical and panic. But the stories where she holds it together, and especially when she is actually enjoying herself in a locale, I like her. Even so most of the time when she panics it’s kinda understandable if still annoying. But of this crop of companions Nyssa is easily my favorite. She’s calm, nerdy, reasonable, and not to be crossed lightly. Her stoicism also nicely counterpoints tegans passion.
Wish you'd do reactions to Red Dwarf (For the Laughs) and Blake's 7 (For the Adventure Drama)!!! ..Both Fantastic British Sci-Fi shows...specially Blake's 7!!
Breaks are good. Glad you're building them into your plans for the year rather than waiting until you absolutely have to take one. Logopolis has some goofy concepts if you think about them too much, but what it absolutely nails is _tone_ (And goofier moments never really bother me in Doctor Who). Not a story I consider a favourite, but it's in my top 50% - maybe if I did a full listing I'd put it into my top 25%.
"Are you just gonna watch?" is actually a pretty appropriate reaction to a character that will come to be known as The Watcher. I forgot how great the interaction between Tegan and Aunt Vanessa was in ep 1 - I loved this story as a boy, it was so mathematical and paradoxical.
This story does have a lot crammed in it. Nyssa was added in as a companion at the last minute due to Producer John Nathan-Turner really enjoying the character and thus, had actress Sarah Sutton sign on for a full season. However, Janet Feilding had already been cast as Tegan Jovanka, with her story and encounter with the Doctor already mapped out. So, last minute rewrites had to be made. This also was one of the rare times the Doctor traveled with three companions. I believe it is the fourth or fifth depending on if you count Vicki joining the team separate from Susan.
I remember watching Logopolis for the first time back in the day, and having my mind blown by once again seeing Tardises materialized inside each other. (Remember The Time Monster?) That and getting a glimpse of other areas of the Tardis like in Invasion of Time. 👍🏻👍🏻
You trimmed it out, but when the Doctor gets the inspiration to materialize underwater, the music cue is the "Rhine River" theme from Richard Wagner's 'Das Rheingold'. Pretty obscure humor, perhaps.
This was one of the first episodes I watched when I first became a fan of classic Doctor Who. It's interesting because it's the first Tegan story and, I believe, the first appearance of the cloister bell. I can't wait for the second part of this reaction.
I adore this story. Love the ideas, love Tegan, love Auntie Vanessa (rest in peace), love the Cloisters (my dream is to build a Cloister garden someday), love weaponized mathematical concepts turned terrifying, love the sinister new Master, love so many touches and moments yet to come *still think it's super weird for Nyssa to just show up 'just cuz'*.
Well, there you are. Now you've met Tegan in Classic Who as well as 40 or more years later. Also, the 'Michael' figure freaked me out when I was a kid too. Creepy looking guy.
Originally producer John Nathan Turner wanted Leela and Sarah Jane to return for this story but actresses Louise Jameson & Elisabeth Sladen declined. It had been planned Leela would become a full time companion again and Sarah for three stories. Hence, the creation of Tegan and bringing back Nyssa; who was only supposed to be a one off character, but the producers liked her so much they asked her back. Also speaking off Aunt Vanessa she gets a mention in Power of the Doctor when the Master asks Tegan if she 'still playing with her in a little dolls house'.
The spot you picked to take your break is very apropos, enjoy your rest! Glad you like Tegan. She's the first human companion from contemporary Earth that we've had in a while. While he's not exactly Michael Myers, the Watcher is supposed to seem ominous. Interesting that the viewers of your channel are watching you, watching the Watcher, who's watching the Doctor. It's voyeurism gone mad!😂
You're a wise person. Good on you, taking time off after this story. This was a good two parter. Liked the character of Tegan, she's a no nonsense kind of person. That's nice. Thanks for a great reaction and channel 🫶
I do wish Sarah Jane had returned instead of bringing in Tegan, she was bossy and arrogant and I would rather she had never been a companion. I was pleased to see Nyssa back, and the fact she was originally intended a one-off character for only Keeper of Traken would have been a shame in billions of ways and also Keeper of Traken bringing back the Master as the principal villain was awesome too he was not the original intended principal villain for Keeper of Traken the fact he came back after nearly 5 years away after Deadly Assassin was a nice surprise. I do say Seska the actor who played the elderly keeper in Keeper of Traken who was called Denis Carey was IMO reminded me of Patrick Troughton.
Well made it the last story of this season. This story was also borrowed from my library too. And yes we have Tegan at last! Who you recognised from Power of the Doctor definitely.
Looking back, the slow/delayed reveals of The Master are how he works best! Not always, but in stories like this and the last one, it's great!! Keep him sinister and the audience guessing!
I did learn Seska that Sarah Jane Smith, was asked to return for this story but sadly Liz Sladen was not free to reprise her role of Sarah Jane a shame in trillions of ways really
It’s often described as funereal, and it is. A sense of doom and danger is all over it. I love Logopolis. The third great story in a row to end a season of change. And a new Tardis team…. Adric is still meh. As an Aussie I have to love Tegan (never understood the hate. Her grating nature always felt an interesting addition to the team). Nyssa is one of the great unsung companions imho
I would ideally have liked to see Sarah and Leela back for this story, I am glad Nyssa came back after Keeper of Traken I was never keen on Tegan admittedly I always preferred Nyssa and she was more gentle natured.
Introducing Tegan Jovanka, the most annoying woman in Doctor Who history. She was loud, argumentative and the only woman I disliked more than Rose Tyler. It was a great day when she left the Tardis. I preferred Nyssa because I like a companion who understands the technobabble.
Much agreed. Nyssa was a way better companion for the Doctor than Tegan. I felt so bad for the Doctor having to deal with two whiny and annoying companions with only Nyssa there to keep his sanity. So glad Big Finish gave us a run of DW audios with JUST the Doctor and Nyssa.
Savage comment from the Doctor.
Tegan (on Aunt Vanessa): You’ve seen her?
Doctor: Well, a little of her.
In Crimson Horror, 11 told Clara about taking a long time getting an Australian to the airport.
Yes, Tegan's going to be around a while 😄
I'm so excited you've finally made it to Tegan, she's one of my all-time favourite companions. Sometimes she gets called out by fans for endlessly complaining but that fiery streak and willingness in her to challenge the Doctor is exactly why I enjoy her so much, that and how fiercely loyal she ends up being to both the Doctor and her fellow companions.
While he does often veer into pantomime, Anthony Ainley is a terrific Master and that sinister chuckle of his is a huge part of the character's legacy. What fan didn't freak out when that same laugh came from Yana's fob watch in Utopia or when the Saxon-Master referenced the upcoming "please attend carefully" line? And the Master doesn't get enough credit for how scary he is here as this insidious killer lurking in the shadows and cold-bloodedly murdering random passers-by, unseen and only that infamous evil cackle signalling he was ever there at all...
Tegan is great. I think by the time we got to a future companion with the sixth Doctor the constant writing of Doctor/companion bickering had gotten to be very old hat. As far as Tony Ainley goes, he was the original Master to me (I wasn't around for Roger Delgado), and I reckon a lot of the way his performance ended up was down to the directors telling him to go for more, and not necessarily just his own choices.
My favorite companions are the ones who are a match (or more!) for the Doctor.
Don't forget when 13 and Master are on the tower during WW2 and he says "Did I ever apologize for that? Good" or Missy and Simms saying "Did you fall?"
The music in these 2 episodes is awesome in billions of ways and the evil laughter of the Master off camera is awesome too
_Really_ geeky musical
fun fact: in ep.2, when the TARDIS lands on the river barge, the rising arpeggio on the synthesiser is taken from Wagner's opera Das Rheingold, and signifies the river Rhine.
I actually think the music is a little intrusive and quite annoying as most 80s Who incidental & theme music was.
I'm watching this eating my lunch in my van, with my dog Tegan Jovanka sat next to me on the seat ❤
"We got to be prepared for the worst" - Logopolis is an epic finale to a superlative season, thanks to its weighty subject matter, foreboding atmosphere and the enormous sense of scale. What really makes this story excel is the phenomenal score by Paddy Kingsland, which perfectly adds to the foreboding, mysterious and haunting atmosphere. Janet Fielding as Tegan is one of the quintessential Classic Who companions and one of my personal favourites. Showrunner John Nathan-Turner introduced her as means of drawing in Australian audiences (JNT was all about hype and publicity).
"What in the Michael Myers is going on over there?" 😂
Quite simply, best Logopolis reaction yet!
The Police Inspector is played by an actor who played one of the doomed scientists in "Genesis of the Daleks" 6 years earlier 🎩
I didn't know that, and I'm beginning to see who he might have played then.
Tom Georgeson.
You finally get to see Tegan's debut! And context for when the Master said "How's your Auntie Vanessa? Do you keep her in a little doll's house?"
The Master from the original series would never have said that though, he was evil but not moronic.
@@davefm5559 he was taunting her. That's very in character.
It was too gratuitous, and Tegan is entitled to revenge. The NuWho Doctors trying to reform the Master or not wanting him to die betrayed Tegan, and more, and are a serious moral flaw in the Doctor.
@@davefm5559He was not moronic.You say about the guy who tried to summon the devil and do several other things that always ended up with him begging the doctor for help
@@conscienceaginBlackadderIt's not like the Doctor or any of the companions can actually talk.They all have A lot of blood on their hands
Ace alone has killed hundreds
The moment has been prepared for... enjoy your vacation...
I endorse that sentiment. Take all the time you need to recharge and may you have an inspiring & relaxing time (Yes, it can be both). It's always a joy to watch (and re-watch) your reactions and to see a different perspective.
The many times I have watched Logopolis I have never thought of calling the watcher 'Michael Myers'.
This has modern series 'Season Finale' vibes - which you don't often get in the classic series.
Fun fact: The location with the motorway Police Box is the Barnet bypass and it was chosen because it was one of the last remaining real Police Boxes left in the country. All was well on the location recce, however when the crew turned up to film they found that the box has been demolished and had to use the previous TARDIS prop to stand in for it 😅
Yes, the location was inspired by the producer noticing a real police box still standing on the Barnet Bypass. Unfortunately, by the time that production started, the police box had been demolished. They then chose the alternative filming location , roughly 25 miles away from Barnet, of the Amersham Road (A413), near Denham in Buckinghamshire. 🙂
@@sdball01 Ah, noted!
First heard that story through the DVD commentary some years ago but it’s always struck me as odd that the location they claimed to be the Barnet bypass looked suspiciously unlike any photos I’d ever seen of it at the time.
Now I know why 😁
Yeah you can see the road from the M25 if you're travelling north just above the M40 junction
It'd be ironic if the pre-existing police box had been demolished specifically because they were going to film there. Like "the BBC hired this intersection for a shoot of some kind, remove that piece of junk so they can use it."
The story that turned me into a fan back in 81. The Master was back, it was partly set on present day Earth, the mysterious watcher, the music. I loved it
First mention of 'Chameleon circuit' and first use of the Cloister Bell, which is now used all the time!
Also first use of Block Transfer Computation which shows up fairly consistently.
Bidmead was right, as I said. lol
First mention of the name chameleon circuit
Because the concept has been around since the second part of an unearthly child
I find it hilarious the way both The Doctor and Adric look at each other after Teagan's entrance. 😂
Definitely the best WTF moment for the characters in all of Doctor Who lol.
@@mikalmos369 innit lol
That's the Tegan effect, already workin'!
Ah, yes. That "mouthy Australian"
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Was her skirt that short?
I watched episode one live when it was originally broadcast in Feb 1981 in a room full of fans at a one day Dr Who Appreciation Society event. The atmosphere was electric!
It's difficult to spot, but when the Doctor first meets the Watcher you can tell the moment he's told (no spoilers) whatever he's told. Very cool moment.
I recorded the audio to this story on it's transmission in 1981. I listened to it so often I could recite all the dialogue word-for-word.
I've always loved this one, and indeed, this sequence of stories
One of the most atmospheric stories in the Classic Series. A fantastic musical score by Paddy Kingsland. Enjoy!
Logopolis is one of the most iconic stories ever (Even though it's a bit thin on plot) the sense of tension and drama is one of parts that makes it great.
Tegan is one of those companions who is consistent and has depth but has a personality that can be a bit divisive. Janet Fielding portays the character brilliantly but Tegan for a long time was one of my least favourite companions. In fact Power of the Doctor was the story that actually made me warm up to her and understand her motivation more. So Chibnall had that going for him!
The Master is especially menacing in this story and I love the TCE in this episode.
Logopolis is one of my favourite worlds. I love the civilisation and how it has an entire society built on Mathematics. It's a unique 'planet of hats' concepts.
I remember the first time I saw this story thinking that the Logopolitans' muttered computations sounded a lot like a 1980s era computer disk drive. I can still hear it today.
I just realized the Tardis is basically the backrooms for someone like Tegan who has no idea what it is.
The very first time we hear the Cloister Bell!
Here we go everyone....We've been waiting for this for a VERY LONG TIME!!!
Watched your very first review of Doctor Who from 8 years ago (New Who - Rose). Your opinion - "OK, so that was very bizarre" How far you've come Sesska. Looking forward to your end of season review next week. Thanks for sticking with Doctor Who for such a long time.
It’s the end… that the Moments been prepared for.
I will Seska recommend watching and reacting to Blake,s Seven which was one of the running sci-fi series when this season of Dr Who was aired.
Omg..Yes!!!!
Blake's 7 ended in 1981 didn't it?
@@darrylguerrant5101 Yeah...but it's still FANTASTIC!!!! Seska needs to meet Avon and Servelan!!!
I've been waiting for this ever since "Power of the Doctor"! (...as I'm sure many other people watching this were too.) Teagan has always been one of my favorite companions with her return in Jodie Whittaker's last story being one of the highlights since the shows revival in 2005. I have a million things I want to shout, but...spoilers... and yeah that music😮...
... I remember when I first saw this back in 82 I think it was. I was 12 years old and had been watching the show for about 2 years on my local PBS station Channel 6 CMU public broadcasting in Michigan. I was still in my first round of seeing any Doctor Who whatsoever. Like many PBS stations in the late 70s early 80s when Doctor Who really started taking off in the United States they started with Tom Baker, I knew nothing about the show beyond that. I had no idea what was about to happen or for that matter what was happening in this story as it was so out of the box for anything on television I'd ever seen up until this point.
This is to me one of the shows central core lore stories with questions I had since Tom Baker's first story "Robot" getting finally answered. Season 18 through 22 is my favorite era of Doctor Who. Like many others with similar experiences, this story was the one that set the hook for us being fans forever, sort of like Stockholm Syndrome LOL. I say this not because it was bad, but because it was good, terribly good😢...🤭🤫🤐😔😥😭...Damn Michael Myers... I so love you for that! Laughter through tears is a wonderful thing. Thank you. You know... I wonder if Patty Kingsland ( pretty sure that was the composer, please someone correct me if I'm wrong) was inspired by John Carpenter's Halloween music? Very appropriate in a cheeky way. This Master posessing Tremas and his creeptastic laugh, the horrific way the police officer is dragged into the Police Box(which at the time I had no idea what one of those actually was)/"TARDIS", Tegan's Auntie unceremoniously murdered, the Watcher(Michael😅), etc, etc, and the SPOILERS... this next week is going to be even longer than the last one LOL I think your break is very well timed as you might need it after this one. "Brave heart..."...Sesska.😊😮😢
Her encounter with Whittaker fell completely flat as the male-female dynamic between them was totally absent.
This was the first time in years (rooftop in The Sunmakers-?) to film in London-??? When the Doctor has his wacky idea to sink the TARDIS, landing on Cadogan Pier on the Thames. This pier on the side of Chelsea, opposite Battersea, has a Rock music heritage. The Clash filmed video for "London Calling' at night, in rain, on Cadogan Pier in 1979. The bridge, Albert Bridge has been filmed in a number of movies, including The Who's "Quadrophenia". The Irish/English band The Pogues had their ballad "early morning Albert Bridge". The 90's+ band Supergrass were filmed in video hopping on Po-go-stiks across the Albert "late in the Day" in 1997, across into Battersea Park, where there is a fine Buddhist shrine. Up the Thames, by a Half-mile is the Battersea Power Station, used on the cover of Pink Floyd's "animals" in 1977. (and seen in modern Who in a Cyberman episode) -I've been to London a number of times, over the years, and visited locations.
Never thought of that before but yes, you're correct, season 15 was the last time they had filmed in London. 👍 The actual rooftop location for 'The Sunmakers' was filmed on a tobacco factory in Bristol. However, they did film in the Deep Tube underground tunnels in Camden Town. Also, the TARDIS swimming pool scenes for 'The Invasion of Time' were filmed in Hammersmith. 🙂
The Master, in “The Power of the Doctor,” to Tegan, “Tegan Jovanka! How’s your Auntie Vanessa? You keep her in a little dolls’ house?”
They ruined the character of the Master in the new series.
@@davefm5559agree to disagree😬
@@davefm5559 He was hit-and-miss for me. I liked Sacha when his performance was more threatening and disliked him when his performance was more "zany". Except for the Rasputin dance. That was fun.
@@SuperClarky666 He is basically just Time Lord Joker in New Who which is nothing at all like the character was meant to be before New Who. So I'd say they ruined him yeah even though liking the new take is subjective.
But tbf, they "ruined" the Doctor in much the same way. He's not even slightly the same character in New Who. Just the way it is now unfortunately.
@dommoore6180 the original Master had a real sort of malignant air about him, the new version is just reduced to a generic crazy man.
I love the ominous atmosphere in this story.
Michael Myers sounds an awesome name for the man in white and the Doctor when he first sees him looks terrified and his face is white it was clear to me when I first saw Logopolis in 81 when I was aged 12 the Doctor knew this man in the white suit. The name of the actor playing the police inspector is Tom Georgeson when he was in Genesis of the Daleks as a Kaled scientist his character was called Kavell he was friends with Gharman and he like Gharman wanted to stop the evolution of the dreaded Daleks.
RIP Auntie Vanessa and the random policeman! Tegan is one of my ALL TIME favorite companions!!! Some people think she argues too much, but that's because she has Passion!! As for this story, CLASSIC!!! Very sciencey in its scifi, it makes you have to think out what the action really is. The tone is perfect!! - - - " . . . You just gonna watch?!" Wellll . . . .
Tegan and Janet Fielding are great and always have been.
yay , so glad you have gotten to these stories, my 1st memories of doctor who
Don't forget to slot in "K-9 and Company" in between this story and the next one "Castrovalva". Enjoy your break!! We waited 9 months between the seasons in 1981/82, so a few weeks is fine :)
She already did K9&Co in Doctor Who December years ago.
She could re-react to the stories broadcast in the Five Faces repeat season, in the same order.
Superb reaction, as always. Enjoy your well-earned break Jess and thank you for consistently delivering the very best reactions 🙏
welcome to the era of Tegan. one of my fave classic companions. can't wait for this journey with her.
Tegan is literally one of my favourite companions this whole tardia team is my favourite
Jess, I'm loving your theory that the "Michael Myers character" loitering in the background was somehow inspired by John Carpenter's Halloween film. Well, this serial was broadcast in 1981, 3 years after the film so, maybe!?!...😢😮😅😂😊
Logopolis!? Whoa... LOL didn't expect to get here so soon.
Nyssa’s back! Yay!!!
This is the one story I watch over and over again!
I’ve been waiting for this reaction. Can’t wait. Enjoy your break Jess and thank you so much. Love the reactions, and have done for many many years. Original and the best.
Apparently Tom and the kid who played Adric did not get on well, but I think they managed to have really good chemistry on screen.
Can't wait to see part 3 and 4 of this final story
Probably only the UK viewers that will get this - but initially I was convinced that the Monitor was played by Noel Edmonds 😀
I love how scared you were of the Watcher. :D And you mentioned the Tardis spa! I think the only reason the Doctor wouldn't let you be a companion is because you'd say "this is some f*ckery" in every episode.
I'm liking Adric more than I remember. His confusion about expressions like "standing on their heads" was very Jamie-like (and I'm sure some fans think it's sacrilege to compare Adric to Jamie). I'm so confused about how Tegan ended up on the Doctor's Tardis after she was on Traken though. The Doctor didn't go back to Traken and by that point, the two Tardises seemed to have "unlinked" from each other.
Nyssa? She mentioned that "the Doctor's friend" had brought her to Logopolis. The other Tardis belonged to the Master, it wasn't him who brought Nyssa. We find out who she means by "the Doctor's friend" later in the story.
@@paulhammond6978 No, Tegan. Tegan gets into the Doctor's Tardis on Earth and starts wandering around and getting lost, right? We don't actually see her get into the Master's Tardis but I'll let that slide because we can assume she just wandered in there while she was lost.
However, she gets OUT of the Master's Tardis when it lands on Traken. She sits around for a little while, then presumably goes back into his Tardis when it lands again. The DOCTOR'S Tardis never lands on Traken. It goes from the boat on the Thames to Logopolis. But Tegan somehow gets into it on Traken.
For the most part I like Tegan. She doesn’t take crap. In some stories I want to yell at her to get ahold of herself cause she can get hysterical and panic. But the stories where she holds it together, and especially when she is actually enjoying herself in a locale, I like her. Even so most of the time when she panics it’s kinda understandable if still annoying.
But of this crop of companions Nyssa is easily my favorite. She’s calm, nerdy, reasonable, and not to be crossed lightly. Her stoicism also nicely counterpoints tegans passion.
Finally... we're here.
I've always wanted to say "Block transfer computation" to someone ominously, then just walk off
One of my all time favorite stories. I love the idea of Logopolis as a planet, a planet that is entirely devoted to math. Great concept!
My favorite TARDIS Team! I love Tegan, Nyssa, and Adric together.❤
Iirc, Elisabeth Sladen was meant to come back or Louise Jameson as Leela, but both were unavailable, so Sarah Sutton came back as Nyssa
Wish you'd do reactions to Red Dwarf (For the Laughs) and Blake's 7 (For the Adventure Drama)!!! ..Both Fantastic British Sci-Fi shows...specially Blake's 7!!
There's some Red Dwarf on Patreon from a few years ago
Breaks are good. Glad you're building them into your plans for the year rather than waiting until you absolutely have to take one.
Logopolis has some goofy concepts if you think about them too much, but what it absolutely nails is _tone_ (And goofier moments never really bother me in Doctor Who). Not a story I consider a favourite, but it's in my top 50% - maybe if I did a full listing I'd put it into my top 25%.
"Are you just gonna watch?" is actually a pretty appropriate reaction to a character that will come to be known as The Watcher.
I forgot how great the interaction between Tegan and Aunt Vanessa was in ep 1 - I loved this story as a boy, it was so mathematical and paradoxical.
Tegan was the 1st non-Brit Earthling companion🎩
This story does have a lot crammed in it. Nyssa was added in as a companion at the last minute due to Producer John Nathan-Turner really enjoying the character and thus, had actress Sarah Sutton sign on for a full season. However, Janet Feilding had already been cast as Tegan Jovanka, with her story and encounter with the Doctor already mapped out. So, last minute rewrites had to be made. This also was one of the rare times the Doctor traveled with three companions. I believe it is the fourth or fifth depending on if you count Vicki joining the team separate from Susan.
I remember watching Logopolis for the first time back in the day, and having my mind blown by once again seeing Tardises materialized inside each other. (Remember The Time Monster?)
That and getting a glimpse of other areas of the Tardis like in Invasion of Time. 👍🏻👍🏻
Ahhhh, enjoy your break jess, logopolis is a great temporary stopping point
You trimmed it out, but when the Doctor gets the inspiration to materialize underwater, the music cue is the "Rhine River" theme from Richard Wagner's 'Das Rheingold'. Pretty obscure humor, perhaps.
One of my favorite stories of this era
The monitor says to Adric & Tegan, "Let me show you some more of Logopolis". Yeah,cos it really looks like a really fun place 🙄
This was one of the first episodes I watched when I first became a fan of classic Doctor Who. It's interesting because it's the first Tegan story and, I believe, the first appearance of the cloister bell.
I can't wait for the second part of this reaction.
The model for the transmitter on Logopolis, is based on an actual radio-telescope, near Manchester, UK. (More, next episode set)
I adore this story. Love the ideas, love Tegan, love Auntie Vanessa (rest in peace), love the Cloisters (my dream is to build a Cloister garden someday), love weaponized mathematical concepts turned terrifying, love the sinister new Master, love so many touches and moments yet to come
*still think it's super weird for Nyssa to just show up 'just cuz'*.
Logopolis in my opinion is the Master at his most destructive
Destroying Gallifrey off-screen is up there too.
What about atlantis in "The Time Monster".
@joshuajoshua2732 one of a few Master stories I have yet to watch
Tegan is one of my favorites, and Janet brought back all the steel she exhibited in her run to “Power of the Doctor.”
First appearance of the Cloister Bell.
It's the end.... But the moment has been prepared for.
Absolutely love this story!!
I actually love Tegan’s introduction, and I’m quite fond of Logopolis too, though I’m not sure what the fan consensus is on this story.
Well, there you are. Now you've met Tegan in Classic Who as well as 40 or more years later. Also, the 'Michael' figure freaked me out when I was a kid too. Creepy looking guy.
Best possible point in this series to take a break Jess 👍
sooooo excited for you to meet Tegan properly 😊✨
Originally producer John Nathan Turner wanted Leela and Sarah Jane to return for this story but actresses Louise Jameson & Elisabeth Sladen declined. It had been planned Leela would become a full time companion again and Sarah for three stories. Hence, the creation of Tegan and bringing back Nyssa; who was only supposed to be a one off character, but the producers liked her so much they asked her back.
Also speaking off Aunt Vanessa she gets a mention in Power of the Doctor when the Master asks Tegan if she 'still playing with her in a little dolls house'.
The spot you picked to take your break is very apropos, enjoy your rest! Glad you like Tegan. She's the first human companion from contemporary Earth that we've had in a while. While he's not exactly Michael Myers, the Watcher is supposed to seem ominous. Interesting that the viewers of your channel are watching you, watching the Watcher, who's watching the Doctor. It's voyeurism gone mad!😂
You're a wise person. Good on you, taking time off after this story. This was a good two parter. Liked the character of Tegan, she's a no nonsense kind of person. That's nice. Thanks for a great reaction and channel 🫶
Oh you just wait until the next episodes to find out who the mysterious white figure is sesska! It will BLOW. YOUR. MIND! 😁😁😁
Janet Feilding who plays Tegan is from Brisbane Australia
I do wish Sarah Jane had returned instead of bringing in Tegan, she was bossy and arrogant and I would rather she had never been a companion. I was pleased to see Nyssa back, and the fact she was originally intended a one-off character for only Keeper of Traken would have been a shame in billions of ways and also Keeper of Traken bringing back the Master as the principal villain was awesome too he was not the original intended principal villain for Keeper of Traken the fact he came back after nearly 5 years away after Deadly Assassin was a nice surprise. I do say Seska the actor who played the elderly keeper in Keeper of Traken who was called Denis Carey was IMO reminded me of Patrick Troughton.
WOW!!! I got a new one before you went away!!! Enjoy your sabbatical!! THANKS for this!!!
Well made it the last story of this season. This story was also borrowed from my library too. And yes we have Tegan at last! Who you recognised from Power of the Doctor definitely.
If you like Anthony Ainley's Master theres a lot of future episodes with him in them.
I just KNEW you'd refer to Michael Myers 🤣🤣🤣
Your reactions to The Watcher had me cracking up. Can't wait to see your reaction to the conclusion and who/what The Watcher is.
Looking back, the slow/delayed reveals of The Master are how he works best! Not always, but in stories like this and the last one, it's great!! Keep him sinister and the audience guessing!
Tegan does seem to come on strong right off the bat XD. Plus, that uniform
Weirdly, also the first time the phrase Chameleon Circuit is used on the show.
I did learn Seska that Sarah Jane Smith, was asked to return for this story but sadly Liz Sladen was not free to reprise her role of Sarah Jane a shame in trillions of ways really
I'm actually glad they didn't because I feel somehow that wouldn't have worked since it's suppose to be a new era.
Tegan! My favorite classic companion has arrived!
It’s often described as funereal, and it is. A sense of doom and danger is all over it. I love Logopolis. The third great story in a row to end a season of change. And a new Tardis team…. Adric is still meh. As an Aussie I have to love Tegan (never understood the hate. Her grating nature always felt an interesting addition to the team). Nyssa is one of the great unsung companions imho
I would ideally have liked to see Sarah and Leela back for this story, I am glad Nyssa came back after Keeper of Traken I was never keen on Tegan admittedly I always preferred Nyssa and she was more gentle natured.
Introducing Tegan Jovanka, the most annoying woman in Doctor Who history. She was loud, argumentative and the only woman I disliked more than Rose Tyler. It was a great day when she left the Tardis. I preferred Nyssa because I like a companion who understands the technobabble.
Much agreed. Nyssa was a way better companion for the Doctor than Tegan. I felt so bad for the Doctor having to deal with two whiny and annoying companions with only Nyssa there to keep his sanity.
So glad Big Finish gave us a run of DW audios with JUST the Doctor and Nyssa.
"You'd think she'd be a little more stressed out if she needs to get to the airport."
*snigger*
I found this story really weird and I never understood it, Seska and it having the Master back was awesome too
Follow for a long time is an understatement as it's been like almost 10 years right?
You have to watch K9 and Company next before the next story
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