Ben Stoeger on recoil control

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  • @jpay37
    @jpay37 10 месяцев назад +94

    Amazing. Years of fighting recoil, other instructors with clamp down, bear down, torque, crank this, lean into it, everything tense and fighting the gun, etc, etc and I was consistently shooting the second shot of a double low. Using knowledge from the past few weeks of these videos I’m shooting more relaxed, splits are faster, and I’m no longer driving the gun down. Still have work to do to get rid of those training scars but I’m getting there. Thanks Ben.

  • @TheAxe4Ever
    @TheAxe4Ever 10 месяцев назад +22

    Damn good shit! Love these videos. Of course it would be better attending a full class in person, but just these short videos are extremely helpful. No “tricks”. No “tacticool” BS. No made up fancy words. Just plain, concise and common sense instruction.

  • @JaredAF
    @JaredAF 10 месяцев назад +36

    OK I'm super glad that you've confirmed kind of what I had to figure out for myself in my training/practice. I compete in Bullseye which is fairly different, but for awhile I was being very, very tense in the rapid/timed fire strings and would find most of my shots going in the 9/10/X ring and about 2 or 3 of them going into the 7 or even 6 ring. One day I decided I'm just going to NOT focus on "controlling recoil" at all. I gripped the pistol super loosely and just focused on getting the sights back on target and on having proper trigger control and, even though the gun was going way, way up after every shot, I would recover, get my sight picture/sight alignment, and fire again. That's when I started to print groups that were all in the 9 and 10 rings with the occasional out in the 8 or a scratch 9. I was focused way too much on reducing the overall amount of muzzle rise rather than recovering and getting back on target, which is the real meaning of "recoil control," not controlling the direction or overall rise of the muzzle. I've sort of evolved into only gripping the pistol tightly but don't focus at all on tensing up really any other part of my body. It seems just gripping the gun tighly in your hand is the biggest contributor to controlling muzzle rise. Yesterday I just had a 99/100 target in timed fire practice with the overall group size at about 3.5" at 25 yds.

    • @Seseous
      @Seseous 10 месяцев назад +3

      Hey man, sorry to jump you like this, but I'm wondering if there is a good place to find Bullseye matches? I've been looking forever, none seem to be close to me, but I haven't found a good central repository of matches like Practiscore or whatnot. Any advice? Thanks!

    • @JaredAF
      @JaredAF 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Seseous Look up the cmp competition tracker

    • @LuckDuckPedals
      @LuckDuckPedals 9 месяцев назад +2

      I had the same realization last time at the range and did the same exact thing: stopped over-focusing on how tight my grip was, relaxed, fixed on straight back trigger pull, and sight picture. Made me shoot about 40% better

  • @pastapaul150
    @pastapaul150 10 месяцев назад +22

    You have been putting out so much valuable information. Thank you.

    • @imtherealjoeyd
      @imtherealjoeyd 4 месяца назад

      Ben is this concept different with a red dot vs irons or no? Talking about staring at the target

    • @pastapaul150
      @pastapaul150 4 месяца назад

      @@imtherealjoeyd don’t want to answer for Ben but no. You absolutely should be staring at the target and not the dot

    • @imtherealjoeyd
      @imtherealjoeyd 4 месяца назад

      @@pastapaul150 thank you!

  • @rdez11
    @rdez11 10 месяцев назад +4

    You are a genius. I really appreciate what you’re sharing. It has really helped me.

  • @amiltomx
    @amiltomx 10 месяцев назад +3

    Another gold lesson. Thank you Ben!

  • @JustinV911
    @JustinV911 10 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing education. Free ! Absolutely will be taking a class

  • @davidhoward9722
    @davidhoward9722 10 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing content. Much better than the dry fire books !

  • @kman12275
    @kman12275 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow yeah this is gold. Most gun teachers really struggle to put into words what they are actually doing and you have to guess like crazy. This feels so much better i wish I was at the range right now to try it all

  • @keithtwill6140
    @keithtwill6140 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks Ben, the forcing down on second shot is exactly what I am doing. Now I have a drill to work on. Much appreicated.

    • @ACommenterOnYouTube
      @ACommenterOnYouTube 7 месяцев назад

      No idea how you or him are forcing the gun down while putting the red dot on target ...

  • @Mr3dperformance
    @Mr3dperformance 10 месяцев назад +3

    I like those drills. Thank you! Going to do that at the range tomorrow. Just got the Apex trigger on my M&P 2.0 today and need to practice multiples

  • @GallantryDynamics
    @GallantryDynamics 10 месяцев назад +3

    Amazing Instruction 💪👍

  • @SEAKPhotog
    @SEAKPhotog 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great stuff. I've just started to embrace being target focused vs dot focused and damn, it makes a difference! I'm already on board with not going crazy fighting recoil and just finding your more or less relaxed grip happy place. That makes a big difference as well. Altho I do tend to to better rotating my arms out a bit and I admit I'm a thumbs on the safety and frame kinda guy.

  • @clutchshot3306
    @clutchshot3306 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks again, Ben, for this insight.

  • @TheBuffaloBlues
    @TheBuffaloBlues 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you🙏🏻

  • @DN-kz7xl
    @DN-kz7xl 3 месяца назад

    THANK YOU! First instructor I came across who gives practical advice.

  • @JG-di5gu
    @JG-di5gu 10 месяцев назад +5

    Watching these videos just makes me want to take your class more. You have a good way in demonstrating and teaching for the student to grasp. Awesome video and content!!

  • @imstevemcqueen
    @imstevemcqueen 4 месяца назад

    Excellent instruction, thanks Ben

  • @AMXSShirt
    @AMXSShirt 6 месяцев назад +2

    I don’t always subscribe. But when I do 😊. I wish people and resources were around when I was in my 20’s in the 80’s. Advice we got was “just do it like Jack Weaver” 😅

  • @libra7624
    @libra7624 13 дней назад

    Efficiency is the "least amount of effort for the maximum result"

  • @BHRxRACER
    @BHRxRACER 10 месяцев назад

    The last few seconds were pure comedy

  • @shiftd_1114
    @shiftd_1114 10 месяцев назад +1

    Another example of great instructing /teaching and most importantly demonstrating - 🙌

  • @eddiepereira9628
    @eddiepereira9628 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome info. Thanks. Who needs a compensator or porting ? With your proper grip, staring at the spot, and letting the gun return predicable no one does.

  • @familycollected3774
    @familycollected3774 7 месяцев назад

    Can’t wait for the chance to train in this course

  • @hopewilliams6705
    @hopewilliams6705 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm just learning how to get my eyes in front of the gun on transitions and it does feel slow.

  • @whliving
    @whliving 10 месяцев назад

    Great content Ben! Maybe you should consider writing a book 😂.

  • @Stealth639
    @Stealth639 Месяц назад

    Am I the only one that when Ben is wearing that blue t-shirt with the white circular logo on the left hand side, I get Reed Richards, Fantastic Four vibes?😅😂

  • @stevenkennedy4130
    @stevenkennedy4130 8 месяцев назад +1

    John Lovell, take note.

    • @coffeeandlifting
      @coffeeandlifting 3 месяца назад +1

      Better tell Jerry Miculek and Rob Leatham to take note too. There are multiple schools of thought.

  • @TheMaini89
    @TheMaini89 10 месяцев назад +2

    Love ur vids…take better care of urself eat better…fuck the convient food options while traveling

  • @n4d3m4n
    @n4d3m4n 10 месяцев назад +7

    This is such a divergence from everyone else I've seen in the instructor community. I think you just pissed off every company that makes compensators, and every grip bro that says to smash the gun.
    From my own dry fire, i feel like the reason to have any strength in my grip, besides loosing control of the gun in recoil, is to pin my middle finger from squeezing the grip and throwing the shot. Does that sound right?

    • @ifly64s
      @ifly64s 10 месяцев назад +4

      In his last video he discussed releasing your middle finger to throw a bird then return it to the gun.. Meaning, that your little finger and ring finger are held tight with your middle finger held light enough to remove it up and back from your grip. This he said allows your middle finger grip to not affect your trigger finger.

  • @crypto1300
    @crypto1300 10 месяцев назад +6

    Aloha from Hawaii's 2A community 🤙🏾

    • @TheAxe4Ever
      @TheAxe4Ever 10 месяцев назад +1

      I’m curious. Is it true you can only carry with a permission slip from the county and that permission slip is only good in the county you reside in?

    • @crypto1300
      @crypto1300 10 месяцев назад

      @@TheAxe4Ever yup, it sucks. But, each island is a different county, so in practice, it's not that bad if u don't travel between islands a lot.

    • @kauaifishingtales
      @kauaifishingtales 10 месяцев назад +1

      Kauai checking in 🤙🏽

    • @reker.a5790
      @reker.a5790 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@crypto1300they have a 2a community? Lol

    • @Rubeless
      @Rubeless 10 месяцев назад

      I’m sure there is an illegal 2a community

  • @_johnm
    @_johnm 10 месяцев назад +10

    "All this work... That is the work of an idiot. That's not helping." 🙂

  • @cnclife2739
    @cnclife2739 10 месяцев назад

    I would think it would be better if the dot doesn't leave the window and us predictable, compared to being predictable and leaving the window. I would think you can shoot faster with less muzzle flip.

    • @MADDOG100ful
      @MADDOG100ful 10 месяцев назад +6

      A open gun with a compensator you'll keep the red dot inside the window put on a normal production gun it's nearly impossible

  • @rsmoz
    @rsmoz 10 месяцев назад

    How do you manage being consistent and repeatable when you switch between guns with different grip angles, with different optics?

    • @rsmoz
      @rsmoz 10 месяцев назад

      @@ShootingSportsandAccesso-sd9li Thanks! What about in terms of getting the optic presented to the right spot? It's of course different for the grip angles between the Shadow 2 and G34s he uses.

  • @user-ms3lw3gi4f
    @user-ms3lw3gi4f 10 месяцев назад

    👍

  • @garyvalenti1019
    @garyvalenti1019 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ben, Can I buy the same holster you use for you G34

    • @lordhellfire153
      @lordhellfire153 10 месяцев назад +1

      Bet it's in his Pro Shop

    • @garyvalenti1019
      @garyvalenti1019 10 месяцев назад

      @@lordhellfire153 I want the same color with Ben's logo on it. I went to the pro shop and very limited stock (no glock). Went to the holster company but could not find the exact one. I'm going to email the holster company.

  • @Slayingmango
    @Slayingmango 10 месяцев назад +1

    omg im first

    • @elfucho
      @elfucho 10 месяцев назад +2

      You weren't 😂

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 10 месяцев назад +3

      You weren't. But congrats on being second!
      🥈
      👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

    • @Slayingmango
      @Slayingmango 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Shadow__133 somehow this is even better.

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 10 месяцев назад

      @@Slayingmango Well deserved. 👍
      And, like Ben would say, you can do it faster next time!

  • @ACommenterOnYouTube
    @ACommenterOnYouTube 7 месяцев назад +1

    Total garbage IMO ...

    • @ryanj116
      @ryanj116 5 месяцев назад +1

      Articulate your reasoning

    • @byronbranch4645
      @byronbranch4645 3 месяца назад

      You anyone we should know? Nah

    • @ACommenterOnYouTube
      @ACommenterOnYouTube 3 месяца назад

      @@ryanj116 3:05 ---> 3:08
      It does not. I can look somewhere else but my gun is still aimed over there, the gun does NOT move with your eyes, your HAND moves the gun to where your eyes are looking.
      Thats simple logic and basic mechanics

    • @ACommenterOnYouTube
      @ACommenterOnYouTube 3 месяца назад

      @@byronbranch4645 neither are you so ....

    • @byronbranch4645
      @byronbranch4645 3 месяца назад

      @@ACommenterOnRUclips but I am tho? Google search playboi

  • @Anonusermf
    @Anonusermf 10 месяцев назад

    Great tips but for me as a learner this is information overload. Should break up the instructions, have students demonstrate, then move onto the next exercise. Cheers!

    • @troubleman8189
      @troubleman8189 10 месяцев назад +5

      Not everyone is slow

    • @MrCrimsonKing
      @MrCrimsonKing 10 месяцев назад +14

      This is from a class where shooters are paying to get instruction from a world class champion. He just puts this online cuz he's a nice guy. Just soak it in, go try stuff, then watch it again.

    • @Rubeless
      @Rubeless 10 месяцев назад +1

      Take a class then be critical.

    • @MrCrimsonKing
      @MrCrimsonKing 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Rubeless I didn't read this as critical.. just a misunderstanding of what this is - a short clip from a paid class

    • @DPBida
      @DPBida 10 месяцев назад

      ⁠​⁠@@MrCrimsonKingexcept I don’t think he’s talking about the online content. I took it as him saying *if he was at the class* it would be information overload. Not that getting all these videos is that. 😂