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Mister, you are really putting out some good stuff. Your ability to get in to words "how to" and "why" are excellent. While I have never taken a shooting class, I am getting an education! Thanks Ben!
One of my favorite things about these videos is the lack of production effort. He just gets right into the meat of it and THAT is the quality right there.
Yeah. it kinda makes me feel like these videos exist to help shooters. And not promote the producer so much. (Not that Ben doesn't deserve accolades for putting this info out there in such a clear and concise manner.)
Yes either he is a marketing genius and knows how to make his video stand out from the rest, which is awesome. Or he just likes shooting and talking about shooting, which is also awesome.
I just stippled my G17 to help connection. It moves a little on my first couple shots. Now I'll work on concentrating more. You're videos do help. Thanks.
Just wanted to let you know that I (and my 10-year-old son who competes with me) get more solid, usable information from you and your videos than any other single source. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
You made the comment about the gun being appropriately sized to maintain connection. I would be very interested in your thoughts about maintaining connection with smaller compacts and subcompacts, or any gun where there is very little room for the support hand to connect with the gun. Given the size of my hands, some full size guns don’t offer much real estate for my hands, which is exacerbated as I move into smaller guns. One of the biggest problems I encounter is that my support hand will drive the fingers of my dominant hand off the gun when there isn’t much room on the grip and I’ll reflexively tighten my dominant hand to counter the loss of connection.
New shooter here so really appreciate these. Like most new to pistols I went out and purchased 3 of the top selling micro 9mm and now wondering if it’s even possible to form a good connection to their size grips?
I carried the g27 for a while and now I carry my g19. The micro is good for backup only in my opinion. I would rather have a larger grip with more ammo.
Audio and to the point content is great Ben. I am primarily a steel challenge shooter and I like being able to understand your Layman approach to concepts. Keep up the great work!
@Ben Stoeger Heya Ben I really appreciate the time and effort you're putting into the information your giving us. I also watch everything you and Joel put out rogether. Your explanation of how to grip the gun made a significant change in my shooting. The grip info and shooting the doubles really showed me how bad my grip really is...😂 Working hard on it though... Staying focused on it during dry fire practice has been tough 😅
Ben, what are your opinions regarding mitigating support hand separation by adding a “push/pull” component? That’s were you are pulling with your support hand against a resisting strong hand, still using a normal isosceles grip. I’ve been taught this by a couple of well known instructors. I’ve tried it out and it’s felt a bit awkward but it does seem to help maintain support hand connection to a slick Glock side panel, esp. Gen 3. Is it worth continuing playing with it, or will it introduce too much tension, or unequal tensions, and Jack up the consistency of the sight returning on target, etc. Audio is great.
One thing I notice now vs when I first got into shooting, during the magpul/haley days, is how your non dominant thumb aligns. Originally, it was that aggressive thumbs forward stuff, I notice with you and others, your thumbs are upward. Stupid annoying detail yes, but after trying that I realized I was no longer peeling my own hands off the gun. Either non dominate side pinky, or dominate side fingers. Allowing a better and more repeatable connection. Also helped with tension because I'm not peeling off my own grip which caused me to just grip harder vs right.
It’s echoey, but I’m guessing it sounds better than without the lav mic. There’s no reverb in your other office. If you decide you want higher quality sound in Arizona, try adding decor to the walls, book shelves, plants, etc. It sounds fine for informal VLOGs, though.
Sometimes I forget to put on the chalk/grip enhancer before a practice session. I realize it immediately as the gun slips in my hand just a little. I'd say that stuff adds 10-20% to your "grip" and I use very aggressive grip panels. Although if you carry or LEO, I wouldn't use it on your work gun practice.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on training with wildly different guns. For example, my go-fast toy is a heavy, compensated 1911 (Nighthawk Firehawk). My carry gun is a lightweight, 3" barrel 1911 (Springfield EMP). These two guns recoil very differently, which means I use two different grip strategies. I shoot my carry gun more because I believe it's the more important one to be 'natural' with, but it's frustrating having to kind of relearn how to shoot each gun at speed when I switch between them.
Hey Ben, what do you think about when some instructors say that one of the reasons the support hand is losing connection is because the strong hand wrist is to loose and not flexed enough? Meaning, when the gun goes of and the wrist is loose it’s going to have to extensive muzzle flip which is going to make you feel that the support hand is jumping forward or slipping off.
Are you prioritizing getting your support hand on the left quarter panel of the gun? Or working your support hand around your dominant hand? More pressure into the left side panel I’m having trouble having my dominant hand in the proper place and my support hand having enough space to reach the back quarter panel In essence having trouble staying connected
Somewhat related to connection to the gun. Do you have any tips on choosing the right back strap, if any, for a glock or similar handgun? Everything I have seen basically says “whatever feels best in your hands” but I feel like there’s gotta be a better answer than that.
I have long skinny fingers and even with my wide body 2011 I have trouble getting the meat of my support hand palm onto the grip. It's on there. Maybe an inch or so strip of contact. But not enough to where I can just shoot without being conscious of it. Griptape is my friend.
i like to grab the trigger guard on my 509 and glock with my support index finger. I get mixed reactions for this but in terms of applying friction to the pistol frame I think it gives me a lot. I'm interested to hear if you have any beef with this.
Too many instructors focus on the amount of pressure you should apply with each hand as if it's some math equation and our hands/brains are perfectly calibrated to adjust pressure based on percentage points. Thanks for not overcomplicating this.
Mister, you are really putting out some good stuff. Your ability to get in to words "how to" and "why" are excellent. While I have never taken a shooting class, I am getting an education! Thanks Ben!
One of my favorite things about these videos is the lack of production effort. He just gets right into the meat of it and THAT is the quality right there.
Yeah. it kinda makes me feel like these videos exist to help shooters. And not promote the producer so much. (Not that Ben doesn't deserve accolades for putting this info out there in such a clear and concise manner.)
If I wanted to watch something with high production, I’d watch a movie.
Right! I was wondering why I like these videos so much… No production or weird into and buy this or that bs!
Same with his classes. No bullshit. No war stories or name drops. Gets to the point and wastes no time.
Yes either he is a marketing genius and knows how to make his video stand out from the rest, which is awesome. Or he just likes shooting and talking about shooting, which is also awesome.
Audio is fine. I love these style videos. Straight to the point, no fancy music
5:22 “can’t be afraid of work that has no end “
Audio is much better. Thank you for the time you put into providing free and helpful information.
very helpful video, thank you again
I just stippled my G17 to help connection. It moves a little on my first couple shots. Now I'll work on concentrating more. You're videos do help. Thanks.
Just wanted to let you know that I (and my 10-year-old son who competes with me) get more solid, usable information from you and your videos than any other single source. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Great clip !!! Left me positive and motivated.
You made the comment about the gun being appropriately sized to maintain connection. I would be very interested in your thoughts about maintaining connection with smaller compacts and subcompacts, or any gun where there is very little room for the support hand to connect with the gun. Given the size of my hands, some full size guns don’t offer much real estate for my hands, which is exacerbated as I move into smaller guns. One of the biggest problems I encounter is that my support hand will drive the fingers of my dominant hand off the gun when there isn’t much room on the grip and I’ll reflexively tighten my dominant hand to counter the loss of connection.
I love it that "small and light" is a G17.
New shooter here so really appreciate these. Like most new to pistols I went out and purchased 3 of the top selling micro 9mm and now wondering if it’s even possible to form a good connection to their size grips?
That’s a really good question to be discussing
good point, it's always a good idea to what shoots well and try it for yourself.
I carried the g27 for a while and now I carry my g19. The micro is good for backup only in my opinion. I would rather have a larger grip with more ammo.
I find the answer to be "not really."
@@duneregent1033agreed
Audio is fine, really like the new format, short and sweet.
Sounds great!
Audio and to the point content is great Ben. I am primarily a steel challenge shooter and I like being able to understand your Layman approach to concepts. Keep up the great work!
This is what I'm currently working on. Thanks for the great vids!
Audio sounds perfect!
Sounds great. Thanks for the videos.
Pumping out great information daily. Awesome. Thanks.
Audio sounds nice and clear.
Sounds great to me. Thanks for the content!
Audio sounds great. Thanks for all the wonderful content!
These quick tips are great
Excellent instruction! Audio is good. Thanks!
I love the thumbnail the most :) Thanks for dropping all these videos.
@Ben Stoeger Heya Ben I really appreciate the time and effort you're putting into the information your giving us. I also watch everything you and Joel put out rogether. Your explanation of how to grip the gun made a significant change in my shooting. The grip info and shooting the doubles really showed me how bad my grip really is...😂 Working hard on it though... Staying focused on it during dry fire practice has been tough 😅
Audio is great. As is the content. Thanks.
Great video
Great content as usual. Thanks
Ben, what are your opinions regarding mitigating support hand separation by adding a “push/pull” component?
That’s were you are pulling with your support hand against a resisting strong hand, still using a normal isosceles grip.
I’ve been taught this by a couple of well known instructors.
I’ve tried it out and it’s felt a bit awkward but it does seem to help maintain support hand connection to a slick Glock side panel, esp. Gen 3.
Is it worth continuing playing with it, or will it introduce too much tension, or unequal tensions, and Jack up the consistency of the sight returning on target, etc.
Audio is great.
I love the no fancy intro. Straight to the meat and taters
Love that I found your vids
Real good info. Audio sounds good.
Audio sounds great 👍🏼
Audio is good 👍 nice and clear.
Audio is better...specifically the volume. Thanks for making the adjustment.
One thing I notice now vs when I first got into shooting, during the magpul/haley days, is how your non dominant thumb aligns. Originally, it was that aggressive thumbs forward stuff, I notice with you and others, your thumbs are upward.
Stupid annoying detail yes, but after trying that I realized I was no longer peeling my own hands off the gun. Either non dominate side pinky, or dominate side fingers. Allowing a better and more repeatable connection.
Also helped with tension because I'm not peeling off my own grip which caused me to just grip harder vs right.
Audio is good. Always been fine IMO. Keep these videos coming however you want to do the audio!!
Video and sound GREAT
It’s echoey, but I’m guessing it sounds better than without the lav mic. There’s no reverb in your other office. If you decide you want higher quality sound in Arizona, try adding decor to the walls, book shelves, plants, etc. It sounds fine for informal VLOGs, though.
Audio sounds great
Audio is fine. Thanks
Sometimes I forget to put on the chalk/grip enhancer before a practice session. I realize it immediately as the gun slips in my hand just a little. I'd say that stuff adds 10-20% to your "grip" and I use very aggressive grip panels. Although if you carry or LEO, I wouldn't use it on your work gun practice.
Thanks!!
Ben, great videos. Any thoughts on Canik guns? I have been looking at them and would like your honest opinion on them if you have one.
The audio is good. I'm not sure how it compares, but it's good.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on training with wildly different guns. For example, my go-fast toy is a heavy, compensated 1911 (Nighthawk Firehawk). My carry gun is a lightweight, 3" barrel 1911 (Springfield EMP). These two guns recoil very differently, which means I use two different grip strategies. I shoot my carry gun more because I believe it's the more important one to be 'natural' with, but it's frustrating having to kind of relearn how to shoot each gun at speed when I switch between them.
Sound is way better. Great video as well
Never knew there was an audio issue- sounds the same as before.
Hey Ben, what do you think about when some instructors say that one of the reasons the support hand is losing connection is because the strong hand wrist is to loose and not flexed enough? Meaning, when the gun goes of and the wrist is loose it’s going to have to extensive muzzle flip which is going to make you feel that the support hand is jumping forward or slipping off.
Are you prioritizing getting your support hand on the left quarter panel of the gun? Or working your support hand around your dominant hand? More pressure into the left side panel
I’m having trouble having my dominant hand in the proper place and my support hand having enough space to reach the back quarter panel
In essence having trouble staying connected
Somewhat related to connection to the gun. Do you have any tips on choosing the right back strap, if any, for a glock or similar handgun? Everything I have seen basically says “whatever feels best in your hands” but I feel like there’s gotta be a better answer than that.
Audio sounds good.
I have long skinny fingers and even with my wide body 2011 I have trouble getting the meat of my support hand palm onto the grip. It's on there. Maybe an inch or so strip of contact. But not enough to where I can just shoot without being conscious of it. Griptape is my friend.
i like to grab the trigger guard on my 509 and glock with my support index finger. I get mixed reactions for this but in terms of applying friction to the pistol frame I think it gives me a lot. I'm interested to hear if you have any beef with this.
Audio sounds pretty good so far.
Thoughts on backstraps on the Glock?
Are these spots on the wall dry fire targets?:)
MUCH improved audio quality.
Sound check is good....
My shots tend to pull to the right after a few rounds like doing a bill drill. What would be the most common cause of that and how to diagnose it?
Hard to practice during dry fire without recoil. Have to stay focused. Thanks.
True, I’m finding making it a point to always use your full grip strength as if you were live firing. I don’t dry fire at all loose anymore
Too many instructors focus on the amount of pressure you should apply with each hand as if it's some math equation and our hands/brains are perfectly calibrated to adjust pressure based on percentage points. Thanks for not overcomplicating this.
How do grip the pistol if you have long fingers and there is little to no space for a support hand?
Audio sounds fine.
Sounds fine to me
Anyone have advice for big hands? I have the thickest grips I could get for my shadow 2 but I have nowhere near that much room for my support hand.
audio = 👍
Audio is great on this one. That quiet video was an oddity I guess.
Damn Ben saying even a 17 is hard to maintain connection I’m struggling with my 26 and 19 haha
Audio much better.
Audio is good, bit of reverb.
👍👍
How do you feel knowing that Steve fisher charges people 500 bucks for a grip analysis class 😂😂😂
It fills me with confidence that I will always have a job doing what I am doing
I wasted a lot of ammo not consciously practicing contact... I also developed a lot of bad habits that are hard to break.. what a waste!!!
It’s crazy how many GunTubers, with their horrible takes, have a million plus subs and this man is at 30k. Do better internet
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