Ben Stoeger on how to grip a pistol
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2024
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I've been practicing in dry fire with keeping my thumbs floating like you mentioned in a previous video. This is a good companion video to reinforce proper grip techniques. Thanks Ben for the great content.
The middle finger tip is gonna be a big help for me I have really bad inter muscular movement with my index and middle finger
Hey, this guy is pretty good. I'd suggest paying attention to him.
I'm so glad you continue to go over grip from different angles, perspectives, etc. First time out to the range today since watching this yesterday, and I immediately noticed a difference. Thank you!
I have modified both my grip and trigger pull based on what Ben teaches, and it has definitely created a noticeable improvement in my shooting. Thanks, Ben!
Gold. Again. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing!
Ben you rock sir! This helped me more than I knew at first. Thanks!
I want to see the focus video , I’m learning more about target focus and want to hear more
The timing of this is very ironic, since it hits as I am transitioning to a glock-esq pistol and keep hitting the slide catch with the meat of my support hand. Trying the floaty thumbs I can visually see space between the controls and my hand now. Nifty, and appreciated
My problem is that I have a tendency to hit the magazine catch with my support hand if my grip is not exactly right. It sucks to get off 3-4 rounds dead center, only to have to tap rack to get the next round to go. 😢
It happens more often with my Glock 48, but I've had it happen with my Glock 34, too. 😮
@@leekellerking I know a few people who have that happen. Are you using the stock size release?
Kagwerkz slide release, you're welcome.
Brennan from Gateway defense said something that has stuck with me throughout my "grip journey".
He said he spent probably about 5k rounds over about 2 months trying to figure out his grip issues. He said at the end, he wasn't near perfect, but he was able to consistently "do the thing" (as Ben would say). After this, he was able to live fire much less, and be more effective.
Obviously not everyone can afford to do this, and with the appropriate concentration and specificity in dry fire, I'm sure you could work out your grip with less rounds.
However, I took this approach and burned through 3.5k rounds over two months. Daily dry fire. Twice a week live fire (mostly doubles). Pouring over this channel and PSTG. At the end, I was finally able to get my grip (close) to where I wanted it to be. Now I have pulled my live count WAY down, and seem to have no progress resistance. With the appropriate guidance and analysis, quantity has a quality of it's own if you can afford it.
Yeah, I have begun to suspect this about a lot of ‘training’. Most of the words are basically meaningless because the instructor got good mostly through high round counts. They’ve found a set of words that works for them, but might have zero value for you…
@atomicsmith Yes and no. I know lots of cops who shoot thousands of rounds and suck lol. I would say you have to have a little knowledge to be able to even accurately analyze what to change in those rounds to improve.
However, to your point, I think guys who do it on a lower round counts (such as how Ben did) have a better understanding for what is actually happening, and what actually needs to happen. They show a higher physical intelligence to me.
I’ve been doing a lot of dryfire, and focusing on grip but unfortunately only get to live fire about once a month
I see some issues in my grip I’m not happy with and then start second guessing myself all the way to the next month
Mostly pressure related.
Taking a class next week so hopefully this will get me on the right path
Good afternoon Ben, what’s the min/max distance for the drill. I appreciate your candor and commitment to the community. Wish you could do a class near Lexington, Ky.
Be well!
Me too! I would be there
In his book, all his drills are applicable from 3 yards all the way out to 25 yards. But the standard is mostly always 7 yards
Interesting, this is making me realize I might be applying too much pressure with my thumbs, which I then find myself readjusting.
Just curious… what’s your avg age of a class 😂
Bro what Glock model is that?
@BenStoeger187, which class was this from? Did you cover this in the classes you talk at KR Training last time?
This is discussed in pretty much every class. This video is from Florida and taken on Saturday.
@@BenStoeger187 Great. You coming back to A Zone next year??? 🙏
where can I get a hamms shirt
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What grip tape do you have on that soulless plastic gun?
I know you are pumping out content like crazy but I am wondering do you have plans to ever watch clips of people and critique them? I record all of my uspsa matches to watch over and see what I did wrong and what I can do better.
I do that every day on PSTG
@@BenStoeger187 practical shooting training group on yt?
What we need isn’t a grip video I’ve come to realize, it’s a recoil control video, what do you do to return the dot to the target, because while you say vision does that you are physically doing something to achieve that return with your arms and/or your hands.
Because when you’re reactively shooting it’s just pulling the gun down and waiting for the sighting system to be however close to the point of aim as you desire, but for predictive shooting you have to be able to control that gun without making multiple sight pictures and I can’t find an explanation of how you do that. Saying you do it with your eyes just sounds like an oversimplification that skips all minute details of recoil control which are automatic for you but I have no idea about.
In a recent video you demoed letting the gun rise and not pulling it down and later shot fast doubles and there was a clear different in maximum height, the faster you shoot the flatter so I’m super curious to what the secret to that is?
So preferably a video going over grip (which seems as simple as tight and consistent) but more importantly stance and arms as they relate to recoil, both how you utilize them when static before shooting and what you do with the parts of your body under recoil.
He’s subconsciously controlling recoil. When you have consistent technique the gun recoils consistently and predictably. Eventually the brain learns over time how to compensate for it, all you need to do is look where you want the bullets to go and your brain does the rest assuming consistent technique. If it’s not consistent, what your body needs to do to compensate for recoil changes, and that messes it up. Your subconscious is often times a lot better at doing something than you are, and recoil control is one of those things. Ik that sounds weird and possibly counterintuitive but that’s what it is from what I’ve found. It seems strange that to be better at controlling recoil you have to not focus on it specifically, but that’s what it is. You’ll notice if you watch enough of his videos that he jerks the gun when he’s expecting a bang but it’s actually an empty chamber or a misfire, this is because his brain has learned how to compensate for the recoil and when the gun goes off.
@@georgekromidas5097 I completely understand and agree with that but he had to do something when he started shooting and recoil control was a conscious matter for him. That’s what I want to know, as well as an breakdown of what he subconsciously does today, like having him shoot a bill drill while paying attention to his manipulations of the gun and explaining what he observes
What am I doing wrong to cause pain in my support for arm? The top mussel is screaming.
@@bobb8423 The muscles in your support arm appear to be weak from what I read. I’d work on some grip strengthening exercises and remember to do some forearm/wrist stretches often.
I have scheduled a recoil control video for release tomorrow.