Hey you know what I love the most about your videos ? It's that they're super useful to me even if I absolutely don't make the same kind of music as you ! :) You always manage to explain general concepts in a very clear way and I haven't seen many youtube channels doing it so well (Sorry if my english is bad btw...)
I have a love/hate relationship with how right you are and how MANY "bad" traits I still do in production. Thank you so much for what you do! Much love, girl
I hope you don't mind, this is a great video and it made me think about the K9 Kicks sample pack I got recently, where kicks are split into transients and the bodies which really helped me to get the kicks just right! Keep it going, great channel!
I learn so much from every video you put out and I don't even make the type of music you make, but I still can implement the knowledge to my own productions. Thank you so much for the value you bring to us all
wow, super helpful video. I've been making music for a few years now and kicks are probably the thing I struggle with the most, giving examples on different contexts here was super helpful.
Thanks for such a clear explanation. I think this is one of your best videos yet. I recently got a handle on how multi-band compression keeps my low end elements under control and working together, but this video helped me realize that I've probably been making kick drum selections that later get in my way.
This is an excellent video. I've seen a few other videos about kick sounds, but this is the only one so far that breaks it down into relevant theoretical analysis. It will be particularly useful for building suitable kick sounds out of other samples if I'm doing more experimental stuff (I might plan to do that at some point). Bookmarking this one - and I just subscribed. Thank you!
Okay, so an Ableton CT shared your channel & it's amazing. Thanks for making so amazing videos. This will help a lot in & out of the classroom. I can't help wonder, is there a way to get access to the flow charts? Stay cool Alice
Thank you, really appreciate the kind words and give my hugs to your Ableton CT.❤️ Kick frequency chart (A bit more advanced version of it) is available only for the melodic techno low end course at the moment. Just to give them something of an extra. 😊
Thanks for another great video! Love the effort you put into these, the amount of info, while still being laid back enough to speak your mind and give deeper insight. Carrying on with this theme, I'd love to see a dive into the tonal aspects of other percs, mainly hi hats and claps. I feel I often meet producers who aren't aware that while some things are atonal, more often than not all percussion is playing notes, and becoming more aware of those notes and their interplay in scales can create much more expressive, emotional music. Like how toms, kicks and snare are generally tuned on a drum set. Experimenting with the pitch of individual drum elements can really change the feel in the context of a song and it would be cool to bring that subject of which intervals/patterns work best into focus in the community. Punchy four on the floor drums would be a good example. What makes objectively more musical/danceable great BOOTS + CATS vs weak boots + cats (outside of the important nuance of masterful groove/swing) Hopefully that makes sense.
Just discovered this channel and I must say, your content is absolutely phenomenal. Then I went to check out your Spotify and was blown away. You are very generous with your skills, thank you for taking the time to make these videos.
hey , I would like to thank you very much, you have helped me many times, although I use Reason , but basically it is the same.many greetings from Frankfurt
Dear wisdom queen. Quick question. I asked you previously about moving things off the grid to be less repetitive, but I think I'm a psychopath or a cyborg because that's the only way things feel right. Do you have any advice for how far to move things or is there some other way to do it with a plug-in or something? I'd love to see an example of a full track so i can see how you align and misalign things on the grid. 🖤 Thank you.
Great tutorial, as always. Quick question about a tonal kick. I understand the benefits when the kick is tuned to F and the bass also is playing F. But what happens when the bass note changes? Wouldn't that introduce dissonance in the low end with the kick hitting F all the time? Or maybe it doesn't matter because the sound is short lived? As an extension of that question, the whole concept of tuning a drum makes sense, but ... what do you tune it to? Thanks for helping clearing that up.
Alice, You go SUPER-HARD with the instructions you give in your video. That is EXTREMELY APPRECIATED more than words can express. The information you provide is PRICELESS. Please don't ever change. You are a DIAMOND to the audio community and your gifts of knowledge are needed in these times where it seems like everyone is only trying to sell this level of knowledge. So, Again I say BIG THANK YOU.
another interesting alternative to Kick 2 is Dawsome Chop Suey. There you can assemble the Transient, Body and Tail sequentially instead of layering. Nice approach imo.
I live by this quote from Joel Zimmerman, "Kicks make kicks and Bass makes bass." High-pass out all frequencies 100hz and below on any kick unless you're not using a dedicated bass track elsewhere in the mix.
A good kick makes effective contact with the mandible. Oops, wrong channel. Another great tutorial Alice, is there no end to your talents? Love and light ❤
Hei! Great job! Could I make a remake of this video for almost "not english speaking" country? And I have a few questions about bad kicks! 1. I tried so hard to find samples with DC offset, but I didn`t find anything at all) I found only your example in google for the whole piece of someone`s track. 2. I`m using FL Studio and I can't see the stereo component of the samples, so I can't see the stereo tail of the kick! Dispel my backwardness and incompetence! Are kick's samples often stereo at all? 3. And the stupidest question! Where do you find these "bad samples"! I thought that all modern samplepacks already include only good ones! Thanks in advance for the answers and good luck!
Good video. I don't make edm, just sometimes for fun. But I get the point, kick choice matters and it really does, no matter what genre you make. Although I like to experiment and not use what I am "supposed to" use. That's because I want to be a little different. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not 😆
Making music for 10+ years... kick and bass mastery is a form of art. The science won't get you far, but it certainly does help in some ways. Also your sample pack is essential for me lol.
It would be interesting to see this approach in a hybrid drum kit for folks who make live music with some electronic extras. I feel since the drummer likes to add some embellishments it is usually better to have shorter kicks.
Great tutorials! Keep up with these, they are very informative regardless of genre. Do you happen to have a suggestion on hard techno kicks that you would recommend? Most of sample packs I have downloaded come with very distorted, overprocessed kicks that can't really deliver.
Bad kicks: 3:42 DC Offset: signal is not balanced, one side will clip when volume is turned up. 4:18 Stereo-tail: L/R are not the same, will phase each other out, must be mono to sound best. 5:10 Late peak: loudest part of kick isn't at the beginning, which will hurt your mix. 5:17 Extreme clipping: kick sample is already clipping before any effects. 5:37 Too low fundamental: if the frequency is below 30hz it can't be heard as well. 6:17 Messed up waveforms: pitch of kick is changing throughout sample, you want equal space between the waves.
I hope it's not really 3000 kHz.... That's a little higher than my hearing. 🤪 Just kidding. Thanks for another good video. Lots of kicks are good; it depends on how it fits with the track, as you show. ✅
Great video, saw a lot of kick tutorials. If you do another kick video, please talk about why we can feel a good kick in the body and what's wrong if we can't.
Speaking of DC offset. Do you people know of any filer plugin that adds DC offset? I can use serum to create a DC signal but I need a filter doing that all the time.
I feel the song fatigue. Idk if its just me but I can actually work myself into a sort of daze, and the main sound gets stuck in my head but not in a fun way. I learned to only work for 3-4 hours at a time before breaking
Got to mention that Angerfist ist Hardcore not Hardstyle ;) but a well video where I learned why my older kicks sound so messed up and I never figured the issue, now I do, thank you very much Alice
people that don't remove the sample-start click from their kicks need to go straight to jail. not the transient, like 1-2 millisecond artifact at the start.
Hi Alice, I love your content, you explain everything quite simple and straight (even tho music as an art isn't straight and simple at all), and your attitude is magic really, i love your vibe! but you should be more precise with your answers... also maybe to get original in a way - for example you mentioned kick sample that was morphed in totally unconventional way, thinking you could tell people how to make the kickdrum right instead of just showing them how to choose the right one... just an idea... cheers! :D
you say go to beatport to hear top tracks to see what kicks people are buying... you dont show how you get the kick ? where you buy them ? or you use them for reference ?
But that’s for example the problem. The transient is difficult to create yourself as a new techno kick and the rumble don’t affect cutting your headroom. For my right now I really struggles with the mix between a powerful rumble and a kick that don’t reach a good quality transient even if I change the sample or if I layered it
Try this for a change and more control Just a few tips. - Set op your rumble chain as a return track. - transients are not important to spend a lot of time on...just take the clicky part from any sample you like.(snares can work also) It is basicly a high layer, so volume should be not too loud - 12 db for example when the kick is - 8. - most modern kicks are saturated on the kickgroup...but also as a layer do not overdo it...less is better.... - a limiter on layers keeps it balanced and catching the different in peaks. - mono (utility has that option) layers -Use compression (glue)at the end of your kickgroup..(when you use the rumble return channel it does not goes to trough the compressor)
great overview on different types of kicks and kick problems. that kick with the pitch drifts sounded awkward af. it would actually make a great challenge trying to come up with a musical context for it. something that unironically makes it the most favorable kick
Please continue creating videos that explore seemingly basic concepts, which, in reality, represent fundamental questions. Through your content, I've come to realize that I had taken these answers for granted, merely following habits without truly understanding the depths of these essential inquiries.
this will do wonders for my rhythm section (drum/bass). after the kick is the vocals. thank you. Edification for Alice's "DC offset": ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxqdKhDbD2DY-1UApq_uLk748d-Z1TCGi8
1:48....hmmmm. Think it has to be 3 Kilo hertz and not 3 thousand Kilohertz... ;) 3000 Khtz is 3 megahertz, right? ;) Just a note ok....I really pay attention to your videos Alice so don¨t take me wrong here ok. Keep the good work and tutorials! :) Love & Peace!
Thanks so much on such specific and useful info. Although in my case, not being a native English speaker, found some trouble following the audio with the subtitles, as it seems they have a few errors (i.e. atonal kick / atunnel kick, tom sounds / thumb sounds). Just a suggestion. Best of luck with your channel!
Kickdrums really are a science of their own! This is why there is _very limited_ information on how to actually _make_ a kick other than just using samples out there on the net.. Kickdrum production along with mastering chains are probably the best kept secret in the industry..
I wish I had this level of tutorial when i started 23 years ago. I would have saved so much time.
you still have plenty of time. everyone is on their own path. you're obviously still alive. Lets hear what you can do now?
Hey you know what I love the most about your videos ? It's that they're super useful to me even if I absolutely don't make the same kind of music as you ! :) You always manage to explain general concepts in a very clear way and I haven't seen many youtube channels doing it so well
(Sorry if my english is bad btw...)
Happy to hear that! Thank you😊
(your english is not bad, don't worry!) -- native english speaker
I'd love to hear more about toms, I always struggle with them
Really? I think it's a mental thing. I'm a 20 year plus drummer who doesn't or hardly uses toms in any of my electronic music.
@@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 yeah me neither but I'd like to, because I know a lot of tracks where I think the toms really add a lot of groove
I avoid them😂🤣
It's easy to get carried away with them and overshoot the target. I'm busy learning how to use them right. It's a rabbithole on it's own... 🙃
Same here 😅
Another brilliant episode by the awesome queen of production theory! Thx! Best , random Swedish hungry producer 😅
Aww thanks a ton! Keep making music you random Swedish hungry producer! ❤️
I have a love/hate relationship with how right you are and how MANY "bad" traits I still do in production. Thank you so much for what you do! Much love, girl
I hope you don't mind, this is a great video and it made me think about the K9 Kicks sample pack I got recently, where kicks are split into transients and the bodies which really helped me to get the kicks just right! Keep it going, great channel!
I learn so much from every video you put out and I don't even make the type of music you make, but I still can implement the knowledge to my own productions. Thank you so much for the value you bring to us all
Wow! All aspects of kicks sound design in 10 minutes! Beautifully amazing! Thank goodness, thank you!
wow, super helpful video. I've been making music for a few years now and kicks are probably the thing I struggle with the most, giving examples on different contexts here was super helpful.
So in love with your videos. Unlike many other youtube tutorials, you give FULL tutorials WITH great examples!
Thanks Alice!🙏🏼🙏🏼
Ohh! And it's super entertaining! I'd spend hours on your channel without knowing😂😂
awesome video! great perspective on how different kicks work for different track situations. thanks
The amount of time & effort that goes into these videos must be insane.
This is quality content!
Thanks for your precious knowleges, i learn by myself and it really helps me composing !
Thanks for such a clear explanation. I think this is one of your best videos yet. I recently got a handle on how multi-band compression keeps my low end elements under control and working together, but this video helped me realize that I've probably been making kick drum selections that later get in my way.
First! A good kick is the one that fits your arrangement, has the right length for the groove, cuts through the mix 🤔
Pretty much 😊
This is an excellent video. I've seen a few other videos about kick sounds, but this is the only one so far that breaks it down into relevant theoretical analysis. It will be particularly useful for building suitable kick sounds out of other samples if I'm doing more experimental stuff (I might plan to do that at some point). Bookmarking this one - and I just subscribed. Thank you!
Aww happy to hear that and welcome to our community! ❤️
Okay, so an Ableton CT shared your channel & it's amazing. Thanks for making so amazing videos. This will help a lot in & out of the classroom. I can't help wonder, is there a way to get access to the flow charts? Stay cool Alice
Thank you, really appreciate the kind words and give my hugs to your Ableton CT.❤️
Kick frequency chart (A bit more advanced version of it) is available only for the melodic techno low end course at the moment. Just to give them something of an extra. 😊
Thanks for another great video! Love the effort you put into these, the amount of info, while still being laid back enough to speak your mind and give deeper insight. Carrying on with this theme, I'd love to see a dive into the tonal aspects of other percs, mainly hi hats and claps. I feel I often meet producers who aren't aware that while some things are atonal, more often than not all percussion is playing notes, and becoming more aware of those notes and their interplay in scales can create much more expressive, emotional music. Like how toms, kicks and snare are generally tuned on a drum set. Experimenting with the pitch of individual drum elements can really change the feel in the context of a song and it would be cool to bring that subject of which intervals/patterns work best into focus in the community. Punchy four on the floor drums would be a good example. What makes objectively more musical/danceable great BOOTS + CATS vs weak boots + cats (outside of the important nuance of masterful groove/swing) Hopefully that makes sense.
I learnt how to EQ kicks thanks to how you broke them down into layers. This video is VERY helpful. Thank you Alice!
🤩good to see you.
Thank you for new fresh portion of wisdom
Happy to help, always! 😊
Just discovered this channel and I must say, your content is absolutely phenomenal. Then I went to check out your Spotify and was blown away. You are very generous with your skills, thank you for taking the time to make these videos.
Thank you so much! ❤❤
hey , I would like to thank you very much, you have helped me many times, although I use Reason , but basically it is the same.many greetings from Frankfurt
Production quality of your videos is amazing! Thank you
Dear wisdom queen. Quick question. I asked you previously about moving things off the grid to be less repetitive, but I think I'm a psychopath or a cyborg because that's the only way things feel right. Do you have any advice for how far to move things or is there some other way to do it with a plug-in or something? I'd love to see an example of a full track so i can see how you align and misalign things on the grid. 🖤 Thank you.
DC offset also is dangerous for the speakers. It makes the woofer move sudden, instead of smooth.
Great tutorial, as always. Quick question about a tonal kick. I understand the benefits when the kick is tuned to F and the bass also is playing F. But what happens when the bass note changes? Wouldn't that introduce dissonance in the low end with the kick hitting F all the time? Or maybe it doesn't matter because the sound is short lived? As an extension of that question, the whole concept of tuning a drum makes sense, but ... what do you tune it to? Thanks for helping clearing that up.
Try tuning it to the fundamental key/pitch in instances like that
For a kick with a loud transient I'd probably use a hard clipper or sample edit the volume of that portion to correct it.
Alice, You go SUPER-HARD with the instructions you give in your video.
That is EXTREMELY APPRECIATED more than words can express.
The information you provide is PRICELESS.
Please don't ever change.
You are a DIAMOND to the audio community and your gifts of knowledge are needed in these times where it seems like everyone is only trying to sell this level of knowledge.
So, Again I say BIG THANK YOU.
Nice. Very well done.
I have watched many of your videos!
Super!
Great video! thank you!
You can fix DC offset with a HPF on 20hz, But i'm not sure if that's the best option to do in that case, probably is better to change your kick.
another interesting alternative to Kick 2 is Dawsome Chop Suey. There you can assemble the Transient, Body and Tail sequentially instead of layering. Nice approach imo.
Wow really useful information. Love this one 🔥
another great video from Alice (and the day has structure)
I live by this quote from Joel Zimmerman, "Kicks make kicks and Bass makes bass."
High-pass out all frequencies 100hz and below on any kick unless you're not using a dedicated bass track elsewhere in the mix.
Great video 🎶
7:09 magic gem folks
A good kick makes effective contact with the mandible. Oops, wrong channel. Another great tutorial Alice, is there no end to your talents? Love and light ❤
What tools/software do you use to edit your videos??? they're awesome!
in engineering i learned to cut mostly under 50hz, that for sure will sound good in any system. what is your expereince cutting under 30 or under 50?
you really know how to rock on it haha congrats
You're my favorite teacher
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"And this will be followed by the buddy of the kick" is what it said in the auto-generated captions. Made me laugh haha
Hei! Great job! Could I make a remake of this video for almost "not english speaking" country?
And I have a few questions about bad kicks!
1. I tried so hard to find samples with DC offset, but I didn`t find anything at all) I found only your example in google for the whole piece of someone`s track.
2. I`m using FL Studio and I can't see the stereo component of the samples, so I can't see the stereo tail of the kick! Dispel my backwardness and incompetence! Are kick's samples often stereo at all?
3. And the stupidest question! Where do you find these "bad samples"! I thought that all modern samplepacks already include only good ones!
Thanks in advance for the answers and good luck!
Good video. I don't make edm, just sometimes for fun. But I get the point, kick choice matters and it really does, no matter what genre you make. Although I like to experiment and not use what I am "supposed to" use. That's because I want to be a little different. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not 😆
You're one of the only people I learn from because I don't trust other people haha. You are amazing.
Amazing tutorials!!!
Making music for 10+ years... kick and bass mastery is a form of art. The science won't get you far, but it certainly does help in some ways. Also your sample pack is essential for me lol.
It would be interesting to see this approach in a hybrid drum kit for folks who make live music with some electronic extras. I feel since the drummer likes to add some embellishments it is usually better to have shorter kicks.
Been producing for five years and yet I had to watch this till the end. Thanks for covering this subject in depth.
Great tutorials! Keep up with these, they are very informative regardless of genre. Do you happen to have a suggestion on hard techno kicks that you would recommend? Most of sample packs I have downloaded come with very distorted, overprocessed kicks that can't really deliver.
Bad kicks:
3:42 DC Offset: signal is not balanced, one side will clip when volume is turned up.
4:18 Stereo-tail: L/R are not the same, will phase each other out, must be mono to sound best.
5:10 Late peak: loudest part of kick isn't at the beginning, which will hurt your mix.
5:17 Extreme clipping: kick sample is already clipping before any effects.
5:37 Too low fundamental: if the frequency is below 30hz it can't be heard as well.
6:17 Messed up waveforms: pitch of kick is changing throughout sample, you want equal space between the waves.
I hope it's not really 3000 kHz.... That's a little higher than my hearing. 🤪 Just kidding. Thanks for another good video. Lots of kicks are good; it depends on how it fits with the track, as you show. ✅
great advice dude, thats explains why certain kicks doesnt work all the time in different genres.
Great video, saw a lot of kick tutorials. If you do another kick video, please talk about why we can feel a good kick in the body and what's wrong if we can't.
Your knowledge is amazing I been really taking my time learning production to a science and you have help answer a lot of questions I have tanks
For years I thought you were saying “thumb” of the kick but you are saying “thump” 😂
(This makes more sense but I like thumb better)
wow I understand much better now what I do with compressors on kick thanks your explanation of the waveform! thanks you!
Speaking of DC offset. Do you people know of any filer plugin that adds DC offset?
I can use serum to create a DC signal but I need a filter doing that all the time.
How come I find more knowledge here than from the big engineers here on RUclips? This is nothing but pure awesomeness! Would you marry me?
I feel the song fatigue. Idk if its just me but I can actually work myself into a sort of daze, and the main sound gets stuck in my head but not in a fun way. I learned to only work for 3-4 hours at a time before breaking
Concise, great graphical explanations and a good range of genres covered. Excellent video
Really appreciate you showing abnormal looking or ‘wonky’ kicks, it’s more applicable to real life situations!
Got to mention that Angerfist ist Hardcore not Hardstyle ;) but a well video where I learned why my older kicks sound so messed up and I never figured the issue, now I do, thank you very much Alice
Correct, also hardstyle uses more than 2 transients (and mostly heavy eq + distortion).
I just use a TR-909 and have no problems with kicks, toms, snares, hi-hats and so on 🎉
Why use kick samples, when we have a such nice tool like Kick2? I make all my kicks with that.
people that don't remove the sample-start click from their kicks need to go straight to jail. not the transient, like 1-2 millisecond artifact at the start.
Wow, thanks! If the kick's transient is high frequency does it mean I should sidechain the hi hats and other high transients, right?
Hi Alice, I love your content, you explain everything quite simple and straight (even tho music as an art isn't straight and simple at all), and your attitude is magic really, i love your vibe! but you should be more precise with your answers... also maybe to get original in a way - for example you mentioned kick sample that was morphed in totally unconventional way, thinking you could tell people how to make the kickdrum right instead of just showing them how to choose the right one... just an idea... cheers! :D
you say go to beatport to hear top tracks to see what kicks people are buying... you dont show how you get the kick ? where you buy them ? or you use them for reference ?
I have looked for good kicks all my life im sure top djs use some unpublished versions
I like to add little bit overdrive saturation and other type distortions. Just a bit of something else
thank you :)
can you make a tutorial to create our own kick from a synth (serum, sylenth, stock plugins...) please ?
Thankyou. Helpfull.. you beautiful ❤
But that’s for example the problem. The transient is difficult to create yourself as a new techno kick and the rumble don’t affect cutting your headroom.
For my right now I really struggles with the mix between a powerful rumble and a kick that don’t reach a good quality transient even if I change the sample or if I layered it
Try this for a change and more control
Just a few tips.
- Set op your rumble chain as a return track.
- transients are not important to spend a lot of time on...just take the clicky part from any sample you like.(snares can work also)
It is basicly a high layer, so volume should be not too loud - 12 db for example when the kick is - 8.
- most modern kicks are saturated on the kickgroup...but also as a layer do not overdo it...less is better....
- a limiter on layers keeps it balanced and catching the different in peaks.
- mono (utility has that option) layers
-Use compression (glue)at the end of your kickgroup..(when you use the rumble return channel it does not goes to trough the compressor)
this video is amazing
thx
These are all great rules of thumb!
great overview on different types of kicks and kick problems. that kick with the pitch drifts sounded awkward af. it would actually make a great challenge trying to come up with a musical context for it. something that unironically makes it the most favorable kick
Do you like Hardstyle/Hardcore too? :)
Coming here to revisit this one... Great video!
GOOD SHIT!
WINNABLE!
Please continue creating videos that explore seemingly basic concepts, which, in reality, represent fundamental questions. Through your content, I've come to realize that I had taken these answers for granted, merely following habits without truly understanding the depths of these essential inquiries.
ready to start using some tunnel kicks
Can you do a similar video for snares or hihats?
Maybe😊
@@Alice-Efe Awesome :) I found this one to be very helpful!
Plz
Love your videos. I started producing over 25 years ago but learn a lot from you.
this will do wonders for my rhythm section (drum/bass). after the kick is the vocals. thank you. Edification for Alice's "DC offset": ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxqdKhDbD2DY-1UApq_uLk748d-Z1TCGi8
My kick dont sound bad.
jk yes it does
1:48....hmmmm. Think it has to be 3 Kilo hertz and not 3 thousand Kilohertz... ;) 3000 Khtz is 3 megahertz, right? ;)
Just a note ok....I really pay attention to your videos Alice so don¨t take me wrong here ok. Keep the good work and tutorials! :) Love & Peace!
Thanks so much on such specific and useful info. Although in my case, not being a native English speaker, found some trouble following the audio with the subtitles, as it seems they have a few errors (i.e. atonal kick / atunnel kick, tom sounds / thumb sounds). Just a suggestion. Best of luck with your channel!
Very interesting
Kick 2 is so easy to use that i can highly recommend it to everyone. D16 punchbox is allso great for dirtier kicks ✌️🔥
congratulations from Italy! You are very prepared. your videos are more interesting than many found on youtube! brava, brava!
Kickdrums really are a science of their own! This is why there is _very limited_ information on how to actually _make_ a kick other than just using samples out there on the net.. Kickdrum production along with mastering chains are probably the best kept secret in the industry..
hi Alice - great vid as always! quick question... what do you recommend tuning the kick to? the root note of the song?
what is a bad kick sample ?
I've decided to stick to your content more closely and been getting some of the amazing resources you come up with... Thank you for it all!