The real value of introducing Judo training into Jiu-Jitsu or any other empty hand combat training is the development of KUZUSHI...developing sensitivity and muscle memory for taking your attacker's balance away from them which only then makes effortless throws, takedowns and control possible...Whether one's base is Western Boxing, Muay Thai, Brazilian JiuJitsu, Sambo, etc. this understanding of 'Kuzushi' for dealing with the clench is KEY...Collegiate Wrestlers use principles of Kuzushi although they don't call it that, in order to take the center of balance or structural base of their opponent...This attribute of developing the ability of feeling and stealing one's opponent's or attacker's structural base/center of balance is the definitive KEY to incorporating either Judo or Collegiate Wrestling into one's Jiu-jitsu standing arsenal...And in self-defense the clench is where most bigger, stronger, novices seek to impose their will upon a smaller or weaker target, so developing KUZUSHI for the standing clench is essential for anyone training for unarmed close-combat defense regardless of one's school or preferred fighting style...Even professional boxers clench when they're in trouble but in self-defense there's no referee or rules, so understanding how to utilize KUZUSHI in the clench is most important skill for unarmed defense after learning how to safely penetrate into clench range without getting knocked out with a combination. Why is Judo important for JiuJitsu? Answer: Developing Kuzushi abilities in the clench range.
Please do a review of the pros/cons of the Gracies Combatives curriculum of months of drilling before free rolling. Your opinion is greatly respected!!!!
My 7- an 5- year olds started judo. I am 37 and started too and I love it. Not sure why but I do enjoy throws too. Judo is very fluent and the whole move from stand to the ground feels ... natural.
As long as the floor is padded enough, kids look at being thrown like being on a roller coaster for a carnival ride (WEEEEEEE!). An attitude adults could learn from.
I lived in spain for a while and in Barcelona is a club called Judo condal they are amazing on the Ground. since 50 years this club Exits and they Train 45 minutes of groundsparring followed by 45 minutes of stand up. Many of them picked up BJJ. If you ever visit Barcelona...visit Robin gracie or yan cabral ...but make sure you find time for Judo condal.
When I was in university, we had a Judo club and we had a few Jiu-Jitsu practitioners (myself included) which allowed for us to work some stuff out, though unfortunately nothing structured. I've yet to find a school that teaches both styles so this is totally awesome.
I crosstrain judo too. It's absolutely lethal in a self-defence situation outside. Who needs ne- waza when you crack your attackers bones on a concrete floor. 😅
I learned Judo about 12-13 years old. Learning how to fall has stuck with me my whole life and kept me from being seriously injured several times in my life. It is a great skill that everyone should learn.
We need more gyms like yours ! A little history from Brazil. There were many Japanese teaching ju jitsu in Brazil and all over the world at the time. Some raising the flag of ju jitsu, some straight from kodokan dojo. The Gracies didn’t want to fall under kodokan umbrella and their structure. The Gracies had their own vision and needed the freedom to do whatever they wanted. Also, they were using and training Ju Jitsu more as a martial art then a sport. Just like many other Japanese teaching in Brazil at the time, the Gracies were teaching ju jitsu and marketing themselves as a ju jitsu, fighters and teachers just like many Japanese fighter that were promoting and marketing themselves as ju jitsu fighters and teachers and not the promoting the kodokan dojo in Japan. Ju Jitsu became Kano ju jitsu that became kodokan judo. All the modern sports like BJJ, sambo, Olympic judo, submission wrestling are all amazing branches from the same tree. Again they are all different sports from the same art. When gracies took it to US they patented Gracie jiu jitsu. In Brazil it was always called Jiu-Jitsu only. With the competition scene of a sport jiu jitsu growing in Brazil, the refinement of the techniques and growth of the sport, many gyms were opening, people were getting promoted and opening new gyms or “business” all over the world. In the US the same thing started to happen. People were migrating to teach the art after the boom from the UFC. So with the money opportunities in the US many people wanted to teach jiu jitsu but didn’t want to pay to use the Gracie name. As the American scene evolved and grew there was a need to create a federation and for marketing purposes, the “ Brazilian jiu jitsu federation was created. The Brazilian was to show that it was the same art from the Gracies without any legal trademark problems. Peace ✌🏻 and please go train both modern BJJ + modern judo = real ju jitsu Best of both worlds. Respect both sports because it is the same art. Respect all the pioneers that paved the way on both sides. Because of each person involved we today have all these greatness of grappling around. Osu !
Excellent video on the positive, as well as should we say some of the limitations of both arts? Glad to see Professor Ryan, that at your school you have incorporated the judo program, as an added element of training, to enhance, compliment and help evolve the progress of your Brazilian jiu-jitsu students! I am also pleased to see that as far as competition is concerned, you encourage individuals, to enter both jiu-jitsu, as well as judo tournaments. You are the first individual that I have seen, providing your students, with both jiu-jitsu and judo training techniques. 👍 ✌ ☺
Hi there! Valente Brothers Black Belt here. We have practiced Judo at our academy for quite some time, too! History: What Maeda taught Carlos was called "Jiu Jitsu." However, the actual pronunciation and the way it was written outside of Brasil jūjutsu. There is a reason why the Brazilians spelled it with an "i" and I cannot remember at the minute. It wasn't until years later that the Brazilians were asked by Kano via Maeda to change the name to "Judo," for which the Gracies politely declined. I believe there is documentation that supports this, but would have to confer with Pedro Valente who is a brilliant historian on the topic of the History.
It is a transliteration. The official transliteration is JU JUTSU... the brazilian uses JIU JITSU because in portuguese language it sounds more like the japanese pronunciation of these words. JU (JiU sound in portuguese).
As far as I'm aware based upon what I've read, Kano's vision for ideal Judo was a 50/50 split between training standing and ground. In his lifetime he didn't completely approve of Kosen Judo because of near-total emphasis on the ground although he recognized its importance, and I'm convinced he wouldn't approve of current Olympic/IJF judo either for the complete opposite emphasis. I like to think he would approve of what you're doing here, which seems all about real-world practice of two ideas he was very fond of - maximum efficiency-minimum effort, with mutual welfare and benefit :)
In "Kodokan Judo" by Kano Jigoro you can read why Nage Waza has priority over Ne Waza in terms of going first in your education, but in the long run, both are equally needed.
At some point the sport BJJ world is going to have to penalize people pulling guard so that they're forced to learn stand up and be able to protect themselves without falling onto their back, I think the whole sport BJJ community right now is just training people to get themselves murdered in the street and the art is rapidly headed for Aikido territory. Between the sport BJJ community and IJF, both arts are just losing too much practicality to be taken seriously for self defense.
I'd go with 4 points for a big takedown, 2 for a minor takedown. Eliminate advantages. Penalties for stalling, both on the feet and on the ground. Stand both competitors back up following 30 seconds of inactivity on the ground.
Penalizing guard pulling is a dumb idea(even dumber than the ban of heel hooks and most leg locks in IBJJF) and shows that you don't know how BJJ works whether it's competition or simply practice. BJJ doesn't take into account for the practitioner's prior grappling experience like wrestling or judo. In reality, most BJJ practitioners don't come from a wrestling(or whichever grappling art) background so acquiring adequate stand grappling skills is a lost cause. If you wanted decent stand up grappling that's comparable to a competitive wrestler or judoka, you might as well migrate to those other grappling arts and don't train in BJJ at all. In case you didn't know, BJJ is a primarily a ground based grappling art, not a wrestling based art.
@@isalehyan Standing up after 30 seconds of inactivity is a retarded idea. You might as well compete in wrestling or judo if you wanna focus on stand up grappling competition. Your idea will create boring ass matches like Werdum's recent match where all he did was clinch work and never hit the ground once. It does nothing to stop stalling. I wonder hows that working out for Judo after a 3-5 second newaza phase? Stop trying to convert BJJ into wrestling!
What's a dumb idea is willingly sacrificing position, for a martial art that teaches a hierarchy of positions on the ground from full guard > half guard > side > mount > back you have a sport that teaches that it's ok to give up top position for guard or full guard for half guard where in any MMA, street or military encounter you're putting yourself at a tremendous disadvantage vs G&P, Catch Wrestling or weapons with no escape options and you don't even have the techniques necessary to force the fight into your effective range by disregarding basic clinch fighting or wrestling takedowns. I don't really care how you think BJJ should be practiced, my point was that the "sportsification" of Judo and BJJ is undermining the arts as they were meant to be taught and practiced and you can see that by how incredibly weak the Western practitioners are in Freestyle competitions compared to the Russians and Arabs who fight for top position and can go after the legs. Teaching people basic grappling skills isn't a lost cause at all, even basic Greco Roman translates pretty easily to a No Gi BJJer. It's just that the 30+ something adults practicing BJJ at McDojos want to roll instead of learning more practical skills that translate into not getting yourself killed.
@@andrewferris4539 You're not listening. The fact that it's better to be on top than being in the bottom at a guard position is a non-sequitor argument. That's why BJJ provides you a guard game, whether it offers submissions, sweeps or escapes. If you're going up against a wrestler in competition, you have to be delusional if you think you have any chance in scoring a takedown. Wrestling is a specialty that can only be acquired at a young age. Watch Royce vs Sakuraba. Royce actually tried to take Sakuraba down and only attempted one guard pull. This is what happens when a non-wrestler tries to wrestle with a wrestler. A guard system should've been invested. Your claim that half guard will get you killed in a fight is easily debunked by the fact that demian maia uses it successfully and it's the highest scoring sweep in mma now. I doubt anyone will use their fists in military contact since we have something called guns. My argument about BJJ being practiced has everything to do with the reality that not everyone can be a wrestler since most people have never wrestled at high school/college. *Teaching people basic grappling skills isn't a lost cause at all, even basic Greco Roman translates pretty easily to a No Gi BJJer. It's just that the 30+ something adults practicing BJJ at McDojos want to roll instead of learning more practical skills that translate into not getting yourself killed.* This claim proves that you have no training experience in neither wrestling nor BJJ. Honestly, people with armchair experiences like you are not entitled to discussing about training and technique. Leave it to actual practitioners.
Good discussion. My kids have been training BJJ for awhile but also started Judo this year. Yes, it was initially confusing for them because of the differing competitive rule sets but they have come to enjoy it. I think they appreciate the more traditional/cultural aspect of their Judo instruction. I think the IBJJF should score throws higher but, even so, I think getting thrown is emotionally devastating. See also: Saulo Ribeiro, Rodolfo Viera, and Lucas Barbosa.
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Iv trained at two gracie academys in my life burnwick bjj and rolles gracie jiujitsu under rolles bolth begin classes with judo throws or takedowns. Can't believe theres schools that do zero takedowns
As a many-years judoka (a very mediocre one who still has yet to test for brown, mind you), I really appreciate this discussion. I love judo, but I am also fascinated by BJJ and feel an obligation to acknowledge the gaps in my experience/knowledge. In my limited experience, there seems to be a *huge* difference between being "judo good" on the ground and being "BJJ good" on the ground. A few jiu jitsu practitioners have come through our judo school and torn down any false confidence that I had in my ground game, and it is wonderful that they did. Judo and Brazilian jiu jitsu are both beautiful arts, and allowing for the full spectrum of techniques/emphases to be explored in your school is definitely a boon to anyone willing to take advantage. As someone who has begun cross training in both arts (and hopes to continue for many years), I salute you.
yup that happend to me, i did hapkido at young age for many years, i got realy good at rolling and falling. fast forward a few years i started training judo / bjj. i blew my knee out training for a judo tourney. i was off the mats for almost two years. i was never the same. this was my third knee surgery ( i also played hockey ) 10 years later im now a blue belt in bjj i love judo and have much respect for take downs however i am crazy cautious (35 years old ) and i tell my partners look i have a bad knee i wear a knee brace. and i will not fight hard on the stand up. also my closed guard is bad because of the knee. but i work on other things. i found if you just respectfully and talk to your coaches and training partners most people under stand and will respect, and not attack a surtin side very aggressively. and then its funny if you train it correctly you will come to see that you adapt other skills. IE my triangles suck from the guard because of my knee. but i have great sweeps, and i am very good from half side control bottom. so its about not being afraid, but knowing ones limits.. cheers to judo / jitsu and martial arts ..
@@harageilucid4352 HI i was defending a leg sweep, and my partner tried to force the throw and use strength over technique and our legs was tangled up and my knee got twisted when the throw did not finish. It was not fun, my partner was sorry. its just one of those things. that happens when training for a tournament. cheers.
@@KamaJiuJitsu yup that was the procedure for me full acl repair, i hurt my meniscous from playing hockey.. the injury has made me alot smarter to training and knowing my self tho.. cheers
Thanks for the reply. I want to start doing judo but I I dont have health insurance and ive heard pretty much this exact story from so many different people. Anyone got some tips on prevention?
I know this is an old vid; but there is a history of Jujitsu practitioners in Brasil competing in Judo. Probably more common between the 1970s-1990s. Then you have those that compete in both Judo-Jujitsu at a high level: Leonardo Leite, Marco Barbosa, Satosh Ishii, Rhadi Ferguson, Travis Stevens… etc.
16:50 The IOC threatened IJF to be eliminated from the Olympics because it was difficult for the untrained individual(s) who saw judo and wrestling as the same with the exception of the gi. That's the reason IJF judo prohibits leg grabs now. It's unfortunate cause I loved kata guruma and morote gari.
Judo is tough... I am 45yo, been at Judo 7to8yrs, I'm a slow learner. Before I thought I was in shape, got paid to lift weights, cardio on the job, workout 4to6x a week, did competitive gymnastics for 7yrs, at the time had a bjj purple belt(14yrs in)... nothing is like Judo. Slammed 75to100x a night omg. Every throw your body experiences g force, then every cell shutters on being slammed. In DFW It's awesome you have a spring mat, that'll save your body. I wear football padded type briefs for impact and neoprene knee covers for stability.
Question: Would it better to attend a school with a self-defense curriculum (one that happens to be famous w/ many affiliate gyms nationwide), where each beginner class is only approx 45mins of drilling, or would it be better to attend a successful sport oriented jiu-jitsu gym that allows for 1-2hrs of mat time per session, and also offers Judo once a week but does not have a self-defense aspect? If the latter, then should a student supplement with a self-defense online course? Or is a self-defense foundation for a new white belt a higher priority than mat time & judo training being available at the beginning stages?
It really depends on WHY you’re wanting to learn jiu-jitsu. Is your primary purpose to have the best opportunity to learn to defend yourself in a confrontation, or are you looking to engage in competition? There are a TON of practitioners who can defend themselves in a fight, but lose all the time in competition. Likewise, there are a TON of competitors who absolutely cannot defend themselves in a fight when they’re getting struck. Judo is always good to learn (just the takedown aspect, they’re grappling (outside of the pin, which is excellent for control) because making an assailant “hit the deck” hard is almost always more effective than striking them. “Ground hits harder than almost any punch.” Same goes for Greco wrestling.
Judo came from the old jiu-jitsu, which has throws, takedowns, strikes, chokes, locks, standing grappling, ground grappling, and weapons attack and defense. BJJ emphasizes ground attack and defense too much and standing fighting too little. Judo emphasizes throws and takedowns to the detriment of the groundwork. Judo and jiu-jitsu need to re-integrate.
12:54 Yuki Nakai, "smoked by Rickson Gracie" in the finals of the Vale Tudo Japan 1995 tournament *had actually just lost his eye* in the very first round of that very same tournament and was pretending everything was ok not to tarnish the reputation of emerging MMA. Also, he was *outweighed by every single opponent* . It's pretty respectable to get "smoked" in these circumstances. ;) (It is not to add to the Kosen judo/IJF judo/BJJ discord, but interestingly, before starting shooto Nakai was first trained by one of the last true Kosen judo sensei named Kanae Hirata. I can only guess, he was probably already more proficient on the ground than standing)
@@KamaJiuJitsu He does seem like a tough yet calm-minded man. Also very open-minded, not afraid of going from judo to shooto, MMA, BJJ and always broaden his perspective. There is an interesting interview of Nakai by "The Grappling Dummy" on RUclips where they discuss his career and Japanese ground fighting heritage.
I think flexibility and core are really important but they say the most important part of judo is the ability to breakfall well. Just really perfect the ukemi on a nice soft and safe floor. Then practice taking the throws and performing the ukemi as an ”uki" with an experienced "Tori" who knows about duty of care to his or her partner when they are throwing them.
Start slow and find instructors/training partners that will go at an appropriate pace. Practice a lot of break falls; A LOT. Don't rush to do full-scale randori, but gradually ease into it (about 5-6 months). Avoid hard-core sparring with the 20-ish students, at least to start. We had one student who was into his 70s starting judo for the first time. It can be done.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu - Basically Just Judo Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu looks just like Judo, because it is Basically Just Judo. When Mitsuyo Maeda, a.k.a. "Conde Koma", began teaching Carlos Gracie in Belem do Para, Brazil in 1917, he was teaching Jigoro Kano's Jiu-Jitsu direct from the Kodokan in Japan. The name "Judo" was not popularized until 1925. Mitsuyo Maeda was a Kodokan Judo instructor whose specialty was ground fighting (newaza). This type of ground-only fighting is often referred to as Kosen Judo, or High School Judo, because it was popularized in Japanese High Schools as a form of interscholastic wrestling. Kosen Judo rules allowed direct transition to newaza, enabling scenarios where one less skilled competitor could drag the other down to the ground (a tactic now known as "pulling-guard" in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu). There is absolutely no question that the Gracie family demonstrated great skill and marketing acumen by promoting "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to the masses. Helio Gracie's loss to Kodokan Judoka Masahiko Kimura was advertised as a "moral victory". More importantly, the Gracies sponsored the original Ultimate Fighting Championships when the world was begging for a professional combat sport with more depth than Boxing and more realism than the WWF. However, there is now a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students who only know half the story. Worse yet, they are often paying enormous prices for the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu name only to learn a subset of Jigoro Kano's original Jiu-Jitsu techniques and teaching methods. The Judo world has not been without fault too. High ranking judoka often looked down on the new popular MMA world due to Judo's Olympic status. As a result, most Judo schools have been over-emphasizing the throwing techniques within Judo due to pressure from the International Olympic Comittee to increase ratings on TV for the brief moments when Olympic Judo would receive air time. Similarly, there is a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students, and now instructors, who incorrectly think Judo is nothing but a standing sport. Fortunately, the phenomenal success of Ronda Rousey, 2008 Olympic Judo Bronze Medalist and UFC / MMA Champion has brought attention back to the accurate history of Judo and its rightful place in the Jiu-Jitsu grappling world. Source: @t
Hey guys, thanks for the video. It's answered most of my questions. I have one more. Is it unrealistic for a 50 year old to start judo and or jiu jitsu?
I completely support making jiu jitsu great again lol Joking aside there's no reason that the throws that were no doubt originally in the curriculum should be included in today's training. Whenever a combat art becomes a sport they always try to take away the claws and fangs there's no need for that.
Hey Ryan, Just saw this cool video you're posting. This is really great news for you because you're covering takedowns in addition to ground fights, giving you guys a well-balanced grappling experience. In my opinion, takedowns and ground fighting combined makes that person a BEAST in self-defense and competition. So, I’m really looking into Judo or Wrestling schools near me in addition to BJJ. But, here’s the thing. There's almost no Judo or Wrestling schools near me and I'm not sure if they're any good. For wrestling, I can't find any Greco-Roman or free-style ones, and I'm not eligible for collegiate wrestling. Any suggestions? Or, is there a way to have more takedowns in BJJ?
Another thing I should add is that there's many BJJ and MMA gyms around me. There may be wrestling or judo in MMA, but that's for serious professionals and not someone who just wants to gain exposure for hobby.
Police officers cannot perform “every” BJJ technique while wearing a gun belt. This is one example of where Judo can be a great benefit. In addition, the Judo Turtle technique is a great supplement to BJJ.
Off topic here but I would like to ask what your opinion is on those who train for MMA fights? Do you feel or think due to the rules in MMA and being a sport that it is or is not practical for self defense? Thank you
Mikeezy I’m not an expert on it. But from what I’ve seen, I think the best MMA fighters have a solid foundation in one style, and know a bit of the rest. People that dabble a bit in this and that don’t do as well. But in general a trained MMA fighter is going to be tough on the street too.
Referencing the comments about striking/stand up/takedowns: Pure JJ isn’t the best way to train to fight; it’s been proven during the advancement of the UFC.
@@KamaJiuJitsu okay… if you’re saying I’m incorrect, help me understand where my logic is flawed, please. If we are to assume that the UFC is the most real combat sport (closest thing to two humans trying to injure each other with martial arts to win, with relaxed rules), we should then look at what champions it has evolved to produce. At first, Royce proved to the world that bjj was phenomenally important. Then, other people started becoming black belts with accompanying martial arts in order to win, which is mma. I argue that MMA is the best way to train for real fights if that’s what’s winning real fights. Ryan Hall is the closes thing the UFC has to a pure BJJ practitioner. He’s amazing, but not a champion.
The UFC Royce fought in is vastly different than the UFC today. There were no rounds, no weight divisions, and the only rules were no biting, no eye gouging, and no groin pinches. Today’s UFC has become rules laden and with the rounds, the fighters who are “sprinters” are the ones who are most favored. If the UFC went back to the rules of the first 3 events, the top fighters would be vastly different than the fighters of today’s UFC. That’s all I’m saying. But then again, street fights tend to last 30 seconds TOPS, and are far more violent than either iteration of the UFC.
Hey Ryan I'm a fan of GJJ and a dan grade in Judo. I'm big into the history of Judo too. From what I gather Kano was very against competition for money and because Maeda did some competitions for this he called it Jujitsu also there was an issue with a fight that he was deemed to have lost to a wrestler due to a misunderstanding of rules and that caused a load of controversy.
In the early years, Judo and Jiu-jitsu were interchangeable terms. It wasn't until later that the term Judo become popular. At least that's my understanding.
@@isalehyan kano pushed for it to be called judo. He initially learnt jujitsu but there was a 'learn by having the move done on you', he was the first to introduce a curriculum.
I've trained 4 years in Judo and am 2.5 into BJJ. Judo requires more athleticism in terms of body ability. Its just a fact. BJJ guys have egos like everyone else. They get foot swept and it makes them look like a little kid, no one likes that. Plus, the throws will take a toll on your joints especially in randori when egos make people start throwing hard.
I'm a judoka and I agree with you, that bjj and judo are different because of the rulesets. Unfortunately some people can't get that and it's a shame. Because if you ask me bjj and judo are one and the same.
Idk maybe, I think its been proven there is not much difference but all I know is I been doing Jits for a few years and just signed up for Judo at another dojo so I'm doing both now and I'm stoked.
Bjj came from judo also today sport bjj complete the sport judo, in self defence are very close, before Maeda put more catch stuff I'm his judo and travelled to Brazil bjj and judo was one with the name Kano jujutsu. Even the 50 and 80 judoka I'm general have very ground game and kosen judo had things that we see in today bjj but in last 20 years bjj has evolve further and have thi gs from judo catch luta livre sambo shoot and some no gi tournaments of bjj have rules that very too rules of cat h wrestling tournaments. In the end of the day grappling is grappling
Because BJJ stand up is trash! As a former Greco national level Competitor the only Competition I have are Judo people and other Wrestlers. Being able to throw somebody directly into the submission with the wind knocked out of them is a competitive advantage!😂
It was a nice conclusion, training standing & ground technique can only make you well-rounded. Also, BJJ is just as different as judo from what they were a hundred years ago, it makes no sense for a judo "master" to tell you they are like the holders of the sacred scrolls. I would be honestly shocked to see this behaviour from a high-ranked judoka where I live. It is clearly not in line with the humility you are supposed to learn with the art.
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The real value of introducing Judo training into Jiu-Jitsu or any other empty hand combat training is the development of KUZUSHI...developing sensitivity and muscle memory for taking your attacker's balance away from them which only then makes effortless throws, takedowns and control possible...Whether one's base is Western Boxing, Muay Thai, Brazilian JiuJitsu, Sambo, etc. this understanding of 'Kuzushi' for dealing with the clench is KEY...Collegiate Wrestlers use principles of Kuzushi although they don't call it that, in order to take the center of balance or structural base of their opponent...This attribute of developing the ability of feeling and stealing one's opponent's or attacker's structural base/center of balance is the definitive KEY to incorporating either Judo or Collegiate Wrestling into one's Jiu-jitsu standing arsenal...And in self-defense the clench is where most bigger, stronger, novices seek to impose their will upon a smaller or weaker target, so developing KUZUSHI for the standing clench is essential for anyone training for unarmed close-combat defense regardless of one's school or preferred fighting style...Even professional boxers clench when they're in trouble but in self-defense there's no referee or rules, so understanding how to utilize KUZUSHI in the clench is most important skill for unarmed defense after learning how to safely penetrate into clench range without getting knocked out with a combination. Why is Judo important for JiuJitsu? Answer: Developing Kuzushi abilities in the clench range.
Great point with Kuzushi. Also Ukemi, the breakfalls of Judo are very good for safety.
It is spelled clinch btw...
Effect of hitting the mat. Very interesting.
Please do a review of the pros/cons of the Gracies Combatives curriculum of months of drilling before free rolling.
Your opinion is greatly respected!!!!
My 7- an 5- year olds started judo. I am 37 and started too and I love it. Not sure why but I do enjoy throws too. Judo is very fluent and the whole move from stand to the ground feels ... natural.
As long as the floor is padded enough, kids look at being thrown like being on a roller coaster for a carnival ride (WEEEEEEE!). An attitude adults could learn from.
I lived in spain for a while and in Barcelona is a club called Judo condal they are amazing on the Ground. since 50 years this club Exits and they Train 45 minutes of groundsparring followed by 45 minutes of stand up. Many of them picked up BJJ. If you ever visit Barcelona...visit Robin gracie or yan cabral ...but make sure you find time for Judo condal.
I would love to see more with you and Dean your knowledge on Judo is great and takes me back to when I first studied Judo.
When I was in university, we had a Judo club and we had a few Jiu-Jitsu practitioners (myself included) which allowed for us to work some stuff out, though unfortunately nothing structured. I've yet to find a school that teaches both styles so this is totally awesome.
I crosstrain judo too. It's absolutely lethal in a self-defence situation outside. Who needs ne- waza when you crack your attackers bones on a concrete floor. 😅
I learned Judo about 12-13 years old. Learning how to fall has stuck with me my whole life and kept me from being seriously injured several times in my life. It is a great skill that everyone should learn.
We need more gyms like yours !
A little history from Brazil. There were many Japanese teaching ju jitsu in Brazil and all over the world at the time. Some raising the flag of ju jitsu, some straight from kodokan dojo. The Gracies didn’t want to fall under kodokan umbrella and their structure. The Gracies had their own vision and needed the freedom to do whatever they wanted. Also, they were using and training Ju Jitsu more as a martial art then a sport. Just like many other Japanese teaching in Brazil at the time, the Gracies were teaching ju jitsu and marketing themselves as a ju jitsu, fighters and teachers just like many Japanese fighter that were promoting and marketing themselves as ju jitsu fighters and teachers and not the promoting the kodokan dojo in Japan.
Ju Jitsu became Kano ju jitsu that became kodokan judo. All the modern sports like BJJ, sambo, Olympic judo, submission wrestling are all amazing branches from the same tree. Again they are all different sports from the same art.
When gracies took it to US they patented Gracie jiu jitsu. In Brazil it was always called Jiu-Jitsu only. With the competition scene of a sport jiu jitsu growing in Brazil, the refinement of the techniques and growth of the sport, many gyms were opening, people were getting promoted and opening new gyms or “business” all over the world. In the US the same thing started to happen. People were migrating to teach the art after the boom from the UFC. So with the money opportunities in the US many people wanted to teach jiu jitsu but didn’t want to pay to use the Gracie name. As the American scene evolved and grew there was a need to create a federation and for marketing purposes, the “ Brazilian jiu jitsu federation was created. The Brazilian was to show that it was the same art from the Gracies without any legal trademark problems.
Peace ✌🏻 and please go train both modern BJJ + modern judo = real ju jitsu
Best of both worlds. Respect both sports because it is the same art. Respect all the pioneers that paved the way on both sides. Because of each person involved we today have all these greatness of grappling around. Osu !
Nice to meet y'all at the Lonestar tournament. Hope to see y'all again.
Great video and advices, thanks !
Excellent video on the positive, as well as should we say some of the limitations of both arts? Glad to see Professor Ryan, that at your school you have incorporated the judo program, as an added element of training, to enhance, compliment and help evolve the progress of your Brazilian jiu-jitsu students!
I am also pleased to see that as far as competition is concerned, you encourage individuals, to enter both jiu-jitsu, as well as judo tournaments.
You are the first individual that I have seen, providing your students, with both jiu-jitsu and judo training techniques. 👍 ✌ ☺
Great video!
Thanks!
I have to train here by any means
well said , good point . a judo guy
Hi there! Valente Brothers Black Belt here. We have practiced Judo at our academy for quite some time, too! History: What Maeda taught Carlos was called "Jiu Jitsu." However, the actual pronunciation and the way it was written outside of Brasil jūjutsu. There is a reason why the Brazilians spelled it with an "i" and I cannot remember at the minute. It wasn't until years later that the Brazilians were asked by Kano via Maeda to change the name to "Judo," for which the Gracies politely declined. I believe there is documentation that supports this, but would have to confer with Pedro Valente who is a brilliant historian on the topic of the History.
It is a transliteration. The official transliteration is JU JUTSU... the brazilian uses JIU JITSU because in portuguese language it sounds more like the japanese pronunciation of these words. JU (JiU sound in portuguese).
As far as I'm aware based upon what I've read, Kano's vision for ideal Judo was a 50/50 split between training standing and ground. In his lifetime he didn't completely approve of Kosen Judo because of near-total emphasis on the ground although he recognized its importance, and I'm convinced he wouldn't approve of current Olympic/IJF judo either for the complete opposite emphasis.
I like to think he would approve of what you're doing here, which seems all about real-world practice of two ideas he was very fond of - maximum efficiency-minimum effort, with mutual welfare and benefit :)
In "Kodokan Judo" by Kano Jigoro you can read why Nage Waza has priority over Ne Waza in terms of going first in your education, but in the long run, both are equally needed.
At some point the sport BJJ world is going to have to penalize people pulling guard so that they're forced to learn stand up and be able to protect themselves without falling onto their back, I think the whole sport BJJ community right now is just training people to get themselves murdered in the street and the art is rapidly headed for Aikido territory. Between the sport BJJ community and IJF, both arts are just losing too much practicality to be taken seriously for self defense.
I'd go with 4 points for a big takedown, 2 for a minor takedown. Eliminate advantages. Penalties for stalling, both on the feet and on the ground. Stand both competitors back up following 30 seconds of inactivity on the ground.
Penalizing guard pulling is a dumb idea(even dumber than the ban of heel hooks and most leg locks in IBJJF) and shows that you don't know how BJJ works whether it's competition or simply practice. BJJ doesn't take into account for the practitioner's prior grappling experience like wrestling or judo. In reality, most BJJ practitioners don't come from a wrestling(or whichever grappling art) background so acquiring adequate stand grappling skills is a lost cause. If you wanted decent stand up grappling that's comparable to a competitive wrestler or judoka, you might as well migrate to those other grappling arts and don't train in BJJ at all. In case you didn't know, BJJ is a primarily a ground based grappling art, not a wrestling based art.
@@isalehyan Standing up after 30 seconds of inactivity is a retarded idea. You might as well compete in wrestling or judo if you wanna focus on stand up grappling competition. Your idea will create boring ass matches like Werdum's recent match where all he did was clinch work and never hit the ground once. It does nothing to stop stalling. I wonder hows that working out for Judo after a 3-5 second newaza phase? Stop trying to convert BJJ into wrestling!
What's a dumb idea is willingly sacrificing position, for a martial art that teaches a hierarchy of positions on the ground from full guard > half guard > side > mount > back you have a sport that teaches that it's ok to give up top position for guard or full guard for half guard where in any MMA, street or military encounter you're putting yourself at a tremendous disadvantage vs G&P, Catch Wrestling or weapons with no escape options and you don't even have the techniques necessary to force the fight into your effective range by disregarding basic clinch fighting or wrestling takedowns. I don't really care how you think BJJ should be practiced, my point was that the "sportsification" of Judo and BJJ is undermining the arts as they were meant to be taught and practiced and you can see that by how incredibly weak the Western practitioners are in Freestyle competitions compared to the Russians and Arabs who fight for top position and can go after the legs. Teaching people basic grappling skills isn't a lost cause at all, even basic Greco Roman translates pretty easily to a No Gi BJJer. It's just that the 30+ something adults practicing BJJ at McDojos want to roll instead of learning more practical skills that translate into not getting yourself killed.
@@andrewferris4539 You're not listening. The fact that it's better to be on top than being in the bottom at a guard position is a non-sequitor argument. That's why BJJ provides you a guard game, whether it offers submissions, sweeps or escapes. If you're going up against a wrestler in competition, you have to be delusional if you think you have any chance in scoring a takedown. Wrestling is a specialty that can only be acquired at a young age. Watch Royce vs Sakuraba. Royce actually tried to take Sakuraba down and only attempted one guard pull. This is what happens when a non-wrestler tries to wrestle with a wrestler. A guard system should've been invested.
Your claim that half guard will get you killed in a fight is easily debunked by the fact that demian maia uses it successfully and it's the highest scoring sweep in mma now. I doubt anyone will use their fists in military contact since we have something called guns.
My argument about BJJ being practiced has everything to do with the reality that not everyone can be a wrestler since most people have never wrestled at high school/college.
*Teaching people basic grappling skills isn't a lost cause at all, even basic Greco Roman translates pretty easily to a No Gi BJJer. It's just that the 30+ something adults practicing BJJ at McDojos want to roll instead of learning more practical skills that translate into not getting yourself killed.*
This claim proves that you have no training experience in neither wrestling nor BJJ. Honestly, people with armchair experiences like you are not entitled to discussing about training and technique. Leave it to actual practitioners.
Every academy I was in over the years had Judo / Stand up along with BJJ/ subgrappling
Great approach 🙏🏽
Good discussion. My kids have been training BJJ for awhile but also started Judo this year. Yes, it was initially confusing for them because of the differing competitive rule sets but they have come to enjoy it. I think they appreciate the more traditional/cultural aspect of their Judo instruction. I think the IBJJF should score throws higher but, even so, I think getting thrown is emotionally devastating. See also: Saulo Ribeiro, Rodolfo Viera, and Lucas Barbosa.
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We might have some left. Please email us at KamaJiuJitsu@gmail.com with your size(s) desired and shipping address and I’ll see what we have in inventory.
Iv trained at two gracie academys in my life burnwick bjj and rolles gracie jiujitsu under rolles bolth begin classes with judo throws or takedowns. Can't believe theres schools that do zero takedowns
As a many-years judoka (a very mediocre one who still has yet to test for brown, mind you), I really appreciate this discussion. I love judo, but I am also fascinated by BJJ and feel an obligation to acknowledge the gaps in my experience/knowledge. In my limited experience, there seems to be a *huge* difference between being "judo good" on the ground and being "BJJ good" on the ground. A few jiu jitsu practitioners have come through our judo school and torn down any false confidence that I had in my ground game, and it is wonderful that they did.
Judo and Brazilian jiu jitsu are both beautiful arts, and allowing for the full spectrum of techniques/emphases to be explored in your school is definitely a boon to anyone willing to take advantage. As someone who has begun cross training in both arts (and hopes to continue for many years), I salute you.
yup that happend to me, i did hapkido at young age for many years, i got realy good at rolling and falling. fast forward a few years i started training judo / bjj. i blew my knee out training for a judo tourney. i was off the mats for almost two years. i was never the same. this was my third knee surgery ( i also played hockey ) 10 years later im now a blue belt in bjj i love judo and have much respect for take downs however i am crazy cautious (35 years old ) and i tell my partners look i have a bad knee i wear a knee brace. and i will not fight hard on the stand up. also my closed guard is bad because of the knee. but i work on other things. i found if you just respectfully and talk to your coaches and training partners most people under stand and will respect, and not attack a surtin side very aggressively. and then its funny if you train it correctly you will come to see that you adapt other skills. IE my triangles suck from the guard because of my knee. but i have great sweeps, and i am very good from half side control bottom. so its about not being afraid, but knowing ones limits.. cheers to judo / jitsu and martial arts ..
If i may ask, how exactly did you blow your knee out in judo?
@@harageilucid4352 HI i was defending a leg sweep, and my partner tried to force the throw and use strength over technique and our legs was tangled up and my knee got twisted when the throw did not finish. It was not fun, my partner was sorry. its just one of those things. that happens when training for a tournament. cheers.
almost the same exact thing happened to me. torn meniscus and frayed ACL.
@@KamaJiuJitsu yup that was the procedure for me full acl repair, i hurt my meniscous from playing hockey.. the injury has made me alot smarter to training and knowing my self tho.. cheers
Thanks for the reply. I want to start doing judo but I I dont have health insurance and ive heard pretty much this exact story from so many different people. Anyone got some tips on prevention?
I know this is an old vid; but there is a history of Jujitsu practitioners in Brasil competing in Judo. Probably more common between the 1970s-1990s.
Then you have those that compete in both Judo-Jujitsu at a high level: Leonardo Leite, Marco Barbosa, Satosh Ishii, Rhadi Ferguson, Travis Stevens… etc.
There’s a lot of overlap with judo and Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. BJJ, less so.
16:50 The IOC threatened IJF to be eliminated from the Olympics because it was difficult for the untrained individual(s) who saw judo and wrestling as the same with the exception of the gi. That's the reason IJF judo prohibits leg grabs now. It's unfortunate cause I loved kata guruma and morote gari.
Judo is tough... I am 45yo, been at Judo 7to8yrs, I'm a slow learner. Before I thought I was in shape, got paid to lift weights, cardio on the job, workout 4to6x a week, did competitive gymnastics for 7yrs, at the time had a bjj purple belt(14yrs in)... nothing is like Judo. Slammed 75to100x a night omg. Every throw your body experiences g force, then every cell shutters on being slammed. In DFW It's awesome you have a spring mat, that'll save your body. I wear football padded type briefs for impact and neoprene knee covers for stability.
Padded clothing? That’s an excellent idea!
I've been to DFW for Judo 4to5x, they often host USA judo tournaments, a great opportunity for your students peaking.
our kids will often enter those tournaments.
Question: Would it better to attend a school with a self-defense curriculum (one that happens to be famous w/ many affiliate gyms nationwide), where each beginner class is only approx 45mins of drilling, or would it be better to attend a successful sport oriented jiu-jitsu gym that allows for 1-2hrs of mat time per session, and also offers Judo once a week but does not have a self-defense aspect? If the latter, then should a student supplement with a self-defense online course? Or is a self-defense foundation for a new white belt a higher priority than mat time & judo training being available at the beginning stages?
It really depends on WHY you’re wanting to learn jiu-jitsu. Is your primary purpose to have the best opportunity to learn to defend yourself in a confrontation, or are you looking to engage in competition? There are a TON of practitioners who can defend themselves in a fight, but lose all the time in competition. Likewise, there are a TON of competitors who absolutely cannot defend themselves in a fight when they’re getting struck. Judo is always good to learn (just the takedown aspect, they’re grappling (outside of the pin, which is excellent for control) because making an assailant “hit the deck” hard is almost always more effective than striking them. “Ground hits harder than almost any punch.” Same goes for Greco wrestling.
Judo came from the old jiu-jitsu, which has throws, takedowns, strikes, chokes, locks, standing grappling, ground grappling, and weapons attack and defense. BJJ emphasizes ground attack and defense too much and standing fighting too little. Judo emphasizes throws and takedowns to the detriment of the groundwork. Judo and jiu-jitsu need to re-integrate.
Great Video :)
12:54 Yuki Nakai, "smoked by Rickson Gracie" in the finals of the Vale Tudo Japan 1995 tournament *had actually just lost his eye* in the very first round of that very same tournament and was pretending everything was ok not to tarnish the reputation of emerging MMA. Also, he was *outweighed by every single opponent* . It's pretty respectable to get "smoked" in these circumstances. ;)
(It is not to add to the Kosen judo/IJF judo/BJJ discord, but interestingly, before starting shooto Nakai was first trained by one of the last true Kosen judo sensei named Kanae Hirata. I can only guess, he was probably already more proficient on the ground than standing)
I saw him destroy some poor BJJ black belt at the PanAms over a decade ago.
@@KamaJiuJitsu He does seem like a tough yet calm-minded man. Also very open-minded, not afraid of going from judo to shooto, MMA, BJJ and always broaden his perspective.
There is an interesting interview of Nakai by "The Grappling Dummy" on RUclips where they discuss his career and Japanese ground fighting heritage.
For older adults wanting to get into Judo, should they learn tumbling and stretching first, as a means of conditioning the body?
I think flexibility and core are really important but they say the most important part of judo is the ability to breakfall well. Just really perfect the ukemi on a nice soft and safe floor. Then practice taking the throws and performing the ukemi as an ”uki" with an experienced "Tori" who knows about duty of care to his or her partner when they are throwing them.
Nah, just go train. You do all that (and more) in class!
Start slow and find instructors/training partners that will go at an appropriate pace. Practice a lot of break falls; A LOT. Don't rush to do full-scale randori, but gradually ease into it (about 5-6 months). Avoid hard-core sparring with the 20-ish students, at least to start. We had one student who was into his 70s starting judo for the first time. It can be done.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu - Basically Just Judo
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu looks just like Judo, because it is Basically Just Judo. When Mitsuyo Maeda, a.k.a. "Conde Koma", began teaching Carlos Gracie in Belem do Para, Brazil in 1917, he was teaching Jigoro Kano's Jiu-Jitsu direct from the Kodokan in Japan. The name "Judo" was not popularized until 1925.
Mitsuyo Maeda was a Kodokan Judo instructor whose specialty was ground fighting (newaza). This type of ground-only fighting is often referred to as Kosen Judo, or High School Judo, because it was popularized in Japanese High Schools as a form of interscholastic wrestling. Kosen Judo rules allowed direct transition to newaza, enabling scenarios where one less skilled competitor could drag the other down to the ground (a tactic now known as "pulling-guard" in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu).
There is absolutely no question that the Gracie family demonstrated great skill and marketing acumen by promoting "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to the masses. Helio Gracie's loss to Kodokan Judoka Masahiko Kimura was advertised as a "moral victory". More importantly, the Gracies sponsored the original Ultimate Fighting Championships when the world was begging for a professional combat sport with more depth than Boxing and more realism than the WWF. However, there is now a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students who only know half the story. Worse yet, they are often paying enormous prices for the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu name only to learn a subset of Jigoro Kano's original Jiu-Jitsu techniques and teaching methods.
The Judo world has not been without fault too. High ranking judoka often looked down on the new popular MMA world due to Judo's Olympic status. As a result, most Judo schools have been over-emphasizing the throwing techniques within Judo due to pressure from the International Olympic Comittee to increase ratings on TV for the brief moments when Olympic Judo would receive air time. Similarly, there is a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students, and now instructors, who incorrectly think Judo is nothing but a standing sport.
Fortunately, the phenomenal success of Ronda Rousey, 2008 Olympic Judo Bronze Medalist and UFC / MMA Champion has brought attention back to the accurate history of Judo and its rightful place in the Jiu-Jitsu grappling world.
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Hey guys, thanks for the video. It's answered most of my questions. I have one more. Is it unrealistic for a 50 year old to start judo and or jiu jitsu?
No
I completely support making jiu jitsu great again lol
Joking aside there's no reason that the throws that were no doubt originally in the curriculum should be included in today's training.
Whenever a combat art becomes a sport they always try to take away the claws and fangs there's no need for that.
We agree!
make judo great again!!
Ibjjf should increase points for takedowns and make pilling guard/but scooting illegal.
Hey Ryan,
Just saw this cool video you're posting. This is really great news for you because you're covering takedowns in addition to ground fights, giving you guys a well-balanced grappling experience. In my opinion, takedowns and ground fighting combined makes that person a BEAST in self-defense and competition. So, I’m really looking into Judo or Wrestling schools near me in addition to BJJ.
But, here’s the thing. There's almost no Judo or Wrestling schools near me and I'm not sure if they're any good. For wrestling, I can't find any Greco-Roman or free-style ones, and I'm not eligible for collegiate wrestling. Any suggestions? Or, is there a way to have more takedowns in BJJ?
Another thing I should add is that there's many BJJ and MMA gyms around me. There may be wrestling or judo in MMA, but that's for serious professionals and not someone who just wants to gain exposure for hobby.
Police officers cannot perform “every” BJJ technique while wearing a gun belt. This is one example of where Judo can be a great benefit. In addition, the Judo Turtle technique is a great supplement to BJJ.
No turtles allowed!
Off topic here but I would like to ask what your opinion is on those who train for MMA fights? Do you feel or think due to the rules in MMA and being a sport that it is or is not practical for self defense? Thank you
Mikeezy I’m not an expert on it. But from what I’ve seen, I think the best MMA fighters have a solid foundation in one style, and know a bit of the rest. People that dabble a bit in this and that don’t do as well. But in general a trained MMA fighter is going to be tough on the street too.
Judo & Muay Thai are all you need for self defence. Bjj is too groundy.. takedown rolling is risky when the other guy pulls a knife
boxing???? as a 35 year student of judo, I'd say boxing and jiu-jitsu are needed (jiu-jitsu knowledge) and boxing to boot.
Referencing the comments about striking/stand up/takedowns: Pure JJ isn’t the best way to train to fight; it’s been proven during the advancement of the UFC.
That’s not really true, but I see why you believe your point of view.
@@KamaJiuJitsu okay… if you’re saying I’m incorrect, help me understand where my logic is flawed, please.
If we are to assume that the UFC is the most real combat sport (closest thing to two humans trying to injure each other with martial arts to win, with relaxed rules), we should then look at what champions it has evolved to produce. At first, Royce proved to the world that bjj was phenomenally important. Then, other people started becoming black belts with accompanying martial arts in order to win, which is mma. I argue that MMA is the best way to train for real fights if that’s what’s winning real fights.
Ryan Hall is the closes thing the UFC has to a pure BJJ practitioner. He’s amazing, but not a champion.
@@KamaJiuJitsu I love the channel by the way. By no means am I attempting to disrespect you.
The UFC Royce fought in is vastly different than the UFC today. There were no rounds, no weight divisions, and the only rules were no biting, no eye gouging, and no groin pinches. Today’s UFC has become rules laden and with the rounds, the fighters who are “sprinters” are the ones who are most favored. If the UFC went back to the rules of the first 3 events, the top fighters would be vastly different than the fighters of today’s UFC. That’s all I’m saying.
But then again, street fights tend to last 30 seconds TOPS, and are far more violent than either iteration of the UFC.
At the end of the day, ANY training in some sort of martial art is better than no training at all.
Hey Ryan I'm a fan of GJJ and a dan grade in Judo. I'm big into the history of Judo too. From what I gather Kano was very against competition for money and because Maeda did some competitions for this he called it Jujitsu also there was an issue with a fight that he was deemed to have lost to a wrestler due to a misunderstanding of rules and that caused a load of controversy.
In the early years, Judo and Jiu-jitsu were interchangeable terms. It wasn't until later that the term Judo become popular. At least that's my understanding.
@@isalehyan kano pushed for it to be called judo. He initially learnt jujitsu but there was a 'learn by having the move done on you', he was the first to introduce a curriculum.
I've trained 4 years in Judo and am 2.5 into BJJ. Judo requires more athleticism in terms of body ability. Its just a fact. BJJ guys have egos like everyone else. They get foot swept and it makes them look like a little kid, no one likes that. Plus, the throws will take a toll on your joints especially in randori when egos make people start throwing hard.
that's not a good situation.
I'm a judoka and I agree with you, that bjj and judo are different because of the rulesets. Unfortunately some people can't get that and it's a shame. Because if you ask me bjj and judo are one and the same.
Idk maybe, I think its been proven there is not much difference but all I know is I been doing Jits for a few years and just signed up for Judo at another dojo so I'm doing both now and I'm stoked.
Bjj came from judo also today sport bjj complete the sport judo, in self defence are very close, before Maeda put more catch stuff I'm his judo and travelled to Brazil bjj and judo was one with the name Kano jujutsu. Even the 50 and 80 judoka I'm general have very ground game and kosen judo had things that we see in today bjj but in last 20 years bjj has evolve further and have thi gs from judo catch luta livre sambo shoot and some no gi tournaments of bjj have rules that very too rules of cat h wrestling tournaments. In the end of the day grappling is grappling
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Is not Freestyle Judo kind of ‘Old Judo’?.... the father of BJJ?
Because BJJ stand up is trash! As a former Greco national level Competitor the only Competition I have are Judo people and other Wrestlers. Being able to throw somebody directly into the submission with the wind knocked out of them is a competitive advantage!😂
Personally I like wrestling more than judo
Good for you!
Judo is jiu-jitsu
It was a nice conclusion, training standing & ground technique can only make you well-rounded.
Also, BJJ is just as different as judo from what they were a hundred years ago, it makes no sense for a judo "master" to tell you they are like the holders of the sacred scrolls. I would be honestly shocked to see this behaviour from a high-ranked judoka where I live. It is clearly not in line with the humility you are supposed to learn with the art.
BJJ = Basically Just Judo....
And you're basically stupid 4 years later 😂😂