Wemby is a monster. He had 37 and 36 back-to-back against G-League Ignite, 8 time zones from home, with NBA superstars and scouts in the stands.. THen he flew back home, won French League MVP and led the league in scoring, rebounding and blocks. Then he came back to the States and won NBA ROY. Then he was the best player on a French squad that won an Olympic silver medal and gave Team USA a close game. Then after he lost that game he was super pissed and said the rest of the world will be scared of him next season. I am scared.
@@darrienlight6124*AD has been the best "overall" defensive players for the past 5+ years and been robbed for DPOY multiple years. How is that possible ?? How does the best D player not have that award even once ?? That's a shame and a crock of _____!! So don't worry, Wemby is will win the DPOY and win plenty more awards as the "NBA poster child" Don't get me wrong Wemby is a alien, but no shame in not winning the award his 1st year. The real shame is AD and even worse might be that Golbert has won that thing like 4 times, but leaves the court in crunch time at the end of games. Ridiculous*
Randle I agree with. But one of the people I wanted you guys to bring up is De'Aaron Fox. The Kings gotta either make a great playoff run or they're going to have to figure out what to do with him, Murray and Sabonis. At this point, even with DeRozan, he has to be an All NBA player for them to make noise in the West
The disrespect Trae gets while NEVER having a legit roster or second star next to him is mind blowing. Put Trae on the Heat as their currently constructed. Who in the east is beating them other than Boston maybe? And thats my point, we judge players under the worse construction then say a player isnt who he showed us when they had a decent situation. That run to the conference finals wasn't a fluke, it should if u put that man even with average surrounding parts, he can almost make a final.
Frl it’s crazy that Trae is starting to become underrated. i think media harps waaaay too much on player’s deficiencies vs their actual impact on the game.
That conference finals run absolutely was a fluke. Celtics were hurt that year and Ben Simmons going AWOL the only reason they won. East is way better.
*Trae is underrated but at same time, the East Finals was a total fluke. And the reason being that everyone was hurt, injured, b/c of Co-Vid. Lakers win the chip and the season starts like 2 months later and squeezes 70 games into the season. Co-Vid screwed up the NBA for like 2, maybe 3 years. A ton of flukes or luck was involved with multiple teams, and half the players. And I mean both bad and good luck. Trae Young does need a dude tho. How about Brandon Ingram ??*
For me it’s that Canadian duo in Indiana Benedict Mathurin & Andrew Nembhard. If Benedict comes back healthy and Nembhard continues to develop at the pace he did in the Playoffs I can honestly see the Pacers being a top 3 team in the East. Also gotta watch the Paolo Banchero development and how Orlando plays with even more spacing with KP. Magic is serious if Banchero can make that jump.
Nobody that watched Eddy play at Purdue would claim that he "never fouled"... the reality is that he was never called for fouls even when he was fouling.
@@4ktkaram395what aspect about him is overrated ? He brought a team that’s only been past the first round 1 in the past 25 years to a western conference finals? At age 22.
Common guys (Brian, Tim, McMahon) you know better…….Stop acting like a casual fan of the game regarding James Harden if you are a 3rd player on a team how the hell do you still expect him to have big numbers and more free throw.
McMahon does not drink liquor? Really? I am not sure I believe that one. If it does happen to be true, then clearly it is only because he prefers beer.
Listening to bontemps & Windy trade barbs is like watching two kids on the spectrum fight over who gets to tell the teachers aid about their day at home 😂
Insane how they didnt mentioned the TIMBERWOLVES....with Antman having a breakout season and amazing Olympics performance with very limited minutes, and to add ROB DILLINGHAM which is a very creative and shifty player
@@delcastilloian Actually he was not leading scorer of the bench Sergio Lull for Spain average more. The 28 point game he had against Puerto Rico (blowout) definitely helped Ant average. I’m not saying he was bad but 3/6 were suspect. I was actually at the one against Serbia when he kept throwing it to the other team or out of bounds because he really struggle with reading the floor. That last argument actually one of the reason why he was so inconsistent last year. With some 12points games followed by some 35points games.
Everytime I hear you talking about trae I start to wonder who is dumb here? It's either you guys, for assuming there's no market for trae and not just that they knew dejounte was trash and trae is rock solid, or - and this I start thinking after I remember that you guys are actually well informed and talk to actual decision makers in the league - if a large pool of GM's you have access to are the dumb people, for supposedly valuing dejounte more than trae.
"Paradoxical" should have been your word for the day. Paradoxical is something with two situations that doesn't make sense together i.e. Redick & LeBron.
@@CharlesAshton-x6v Out of everyone you named by g, only Curry has proven to be winner in the clutch in the finals. The rest of your list is built on potential.
@@xKeyzerSozeThat is a Crazy take and I Like jamal. Luka is clearly better lol and has proved that time and time over again in the playoffs. A 30% Luka would have a ring with jokic besides him.
GMs should all be fired, they are terrible in building a team. Scouts are awful as well. Giving huge contracts is a big mistake. The draft lottery is a joke, you have a few good players that make a difference.
There is zero chance that Hartenstein is coming off the bench on any games. You do not sign a player who is making $29M a year to come off the bench. That is not happening
5:00 Only American white men who cover the NBA have the nerve to claim that Jokic and Luka are the two best players in the league yet speak negatively of Lamelo Ball and Trae Young because of their defense. You can't pretend that you care about defense when both Jokic and Luka are HORRIBLE defensive players 😂😂
@vancearmstrong4542 LOL...can't have it both ways. Melo and Trae are both awesome offensively. Their teams just aren't built to win now like Denver and Dallas have surrounded Jokic and Luka with better win now teammates.
@jonathans8760 are you kidding? Joking and Luka both are better passers. They both rebound far better for their position. They aren't even as good offensively efficiency wise as luka/jokic.
I see Randle leaving they gone ask him to play Center in small ball and how they gone pay hart and donate plus he a scorer Brunson holds the ball to much
Like bro can they just rid of Tim Bontemps. This guy knows literally nothing. On what planet should Donovan Mitchell be a ‘2nd option’ to Evan Mobley in order to win a title. Fire this guy!
I'm not trying to crucify anyone out here nor do I wish to compare Chet and Wemby as players or their situations. They've both got a ton of success ahead of them. I just want to make it clear that I think it is absolute BS for Windy to talk about how good Wemby looked in his last 7-10 games and even suggest that we should put much of any stock in that, only for MacMahon to point out how Chet struggled shooting from deep towards the end of the regular season. Those two observations taken on their own are honestly nothing, but when you pair them together in a segment talking about Wemby and Chet, one can easily read between the lines and infer that, the Hoop Collective is suggesting this false narrative that Wemby is totally going to start next season as good as he finished last season and that Chet is totally going to struggle with his outside shot like he did towards the end of his season. That would be an utterly idiotic assumption to make, but it wouldn't be hard to get there based on how the pair were talked about in that segment.
Waterfalling a fireball shot is wild man, didn't know these dudes rolled like that
brother that is not wild lol. basically chamomile tea 😂😂
Wemby is a monster. He had 37 and 36 back-to-back against G-League Ignite, 8 time zones from home, with NBA superstars and scouts in the stands.. THen he flew back home, won French League MVP and led the league in scoring, rebounding and blocks. Then he came back to the States and won NBA ROY. Then he was the best player on a French squad that won an Olympic silver medal and gave Team USA a close game. Then after he lost that game he was super pissed and said the rest of the world will be scared of him next season. I am scared.
Wemby got robbed from dpoty
Wemby added 0 wins to an NBA team. Everything you said is meaningless
@@darrienlight6124*AD has been the best "overall" defensive players for the past 5+ years and been robbed for DPOY multiple years. How is that possible ?? How does the best D player not have that award even once ?? That's a shame and a crock of _____!! So don't worry, Wemby is will win the DPOY and win plenty more awards as the "NBA poster child" Don't get me wrong Wemby is a alien, but no shame in not winning the award his 1st year. The real shame is AD and even worse might be that Golbert has won that thing like 4 times, but leaves the court in crunch time at the end of games. Ridiculous*
This was actually a great topic and podcast. Be sure to do it again next year. Keep up the great work
The title is wack though. Are the other players not in this list not important? It's dumb and shows their limited vocabulary.
I would absolutely have the Hoop Collective intro music as a ringtone if ringtones were still a thing
good news. ringtones are still a thing
People question Randle like we weren’t 12-1 w him and OG in the lineups
Wemby and Chet somehow became a Lively discussion.
Demar DeRozan in Sacramento is intriguing
Randle I agree with. But one of the people I wanted you guys to bring up is De'Aaron Fox. The Kings gotta either make a great playoff run or they're going to have to figure out what to do with him, Murray and Sabonis. At this point, even with DeRozan, he has to be an All NBA player for them to make noise in the West
Zach Edey has the potential to be the next Rik Smits if he works on his perimeter game.
Of course ohm was at the Bruno Mars concert
My picks before watching Ja, Zion and Ant
Go Bonnies!🎉
Murray's max will be an albatross for many years for Joker.
The disrespect Trae gets while NEVER having a legit roster or second star next to him is mind blowing. Put Trae on the Heat as their currently constructed. Who in the east is beating them other than Boston maybe? And thats my point, we judge players under the worse construction then say a player isnt who he showed us when they had a decent situation. That run to the conference finals wasn't a fluke, it should if u put that man even with average surrounding parts, he can almost make a final.
Frl it’s crazy that Trae is starting to become underrated. i think media harps waaaay too much on player’s deficiencies vs their actual impact on the game.
That conference finals run absolutely was a fluke. Celtics were hurt that year and Ben Simmons going AWOL the only reason they won. East is way better.
Let them laugh now and cry later. Trae proving these guys very wrong this upcoming season
*Trae is underrated but at same time, the East Finals was a total fluke. And the reason being that everyone was hurt, injured, b/c of Co-Vid. Lakers win the chip and the season starts like 2 months later and squeezes 70 games into the season. Co-Vid screwed up the NBA for like 2, maybe 3 years. A ton of flukes or luck was involved with multiple teams, and half the players. And I mean both bad and good luck. Trae Young does need a dude tho. How about Brandon Ingram ??*
@@natetewkesbury who was hurt? Nobody on the knicks nobody on the 76ers
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Ant, Jokic, Wemby, AD, and Jaylen Brown
“Jaylen brown “😭
@@Peacehardly Calm down, Mama Tabum
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Nostalgia9478 Celtics a lottery team without tatum
@@Peacehardly Replace Overrated POS Tabum with Taurean Prince and they still win it all. GOAT Coach Kerr proved that
Cry harder, Mama Tabum
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I’m adding JA because pll are definitely interested
For me it’s that Canadian duo in Indiana Benedict Mathurin & Andrew Nembhard. If Benedict comes back healthy and Nembhard continues to develop at the pace he did in the Playoffs I can honestly see the Pacers being a top 3 team in the East. Also gotta watch the Paolo Banchero development and how Orlando plays with even more spacing with KP. Magic is serious if Banchero can make that jump.
I don't see it for the pacers honestly but we'll see
Wemby's 3 shot is bad because he shoots off rhythm shots because his teammates are bad passers. When he shoots pull up 3s, this shot is actually good
Anthony Edwards. Good morning!😊
Can't forget the Heat matching the Nets four-year $50 million offer sheet for Tyler Johnson for bad contracts by the Heat
2015-18 might be the worst era in NBA history
As long as Ja is the primary ball handler of Memphis, Edey is not gonna get a lot of touches, better get the rebound... Ja is a certified BALLHOG...
If Bronny is not among the most important people - I’ll unsubscribe and sue!
Class action, let’s do this lol
Cant stop talking about him, shows his importance. Gonna be the most profitable 55th pick in history even if he plays 0 minutes for his career
what?
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Lol bronny is useless
Why is Cramelo Ball not mentioned? He the real ROTY
Nobody that watched Eddy play at Purdue would claim that he "never fouled"... the reality is that he was never called for fouls even when he was fouling.
Who wants to see Ant fail after that comment😂
Hater
I don’t want to see him fail, but he has become the most overrated player in the NBA.
@@4ktkaram395what aspect about him is overrated ? He brought a team that’s only been past the first round 1 in the past 25 years to a western conference finals? At age 22.
@@aximus11 trae young did the same thing and nobody calls him the face. Trae was 22. Trae also had 50
These guys just talk cause they cant let go of their nostalgia heroes @aximus11
Paolo Banchero!!!!
35:16 WHAT?! Boban is much more talented. He can shoot and pass, for two. It's just that Boban is incredibly immobile.
DeRozan!
Lamelo and Trae are franchise superstars. Don’t disrespect them like this
*James Soften* 😂
Raptors should be interesting
Common guys (Brian, Tim, McMahon) you know better…….Stop acting like a casual fan of the game regarding James Harden if you are a 3rd player on a team how the hell do you still expect him to have big numbers and more free throw.
i predict zach edey will play about the same of games ja did last season, bro is gonna be injured for 80% of his career.
Bontemps is the most famous man in Clear Lake 😂😂. Why homie over there!? Ain't nothing out there 😂
Lonzo Ball anyone?
McMahon does not drink liquor? Really? I am not sure I believe that one. If it does happen to be true, then clearly it is only because he prefers beer.
Listening to bontemps & Windy trade barbs is like watching two kids on the spectrum fight over who gets to tell the teachers aid about their day at home 😂
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Trae Young will win the 2025 MVP 🤫
Did the lakers really give up that much for Westbrook???
Insane how they didnt mentioned the TIMBERWOLVES....with Antman having a breakout season and amazing Olympics performance with very limited minutes, and to add ROB DILLINGHAM which is a very creative and shifty player
Ant was mid in the Olympics
@@92KM1 mid? He was the top leading scorer while playing off the bench, how's that mid? Unless you're just a casual ant hater which I get
@@delcastilloian Actually he was not leading scorer of the bench Sergio Lull for Spain average more. The 28 point game he had against Puerto Rico (blowout) definitely helped Ant average. I’m not saying he was bad but 3/6 were suspect. I was actually at the one against Serbia when he kept throwing it to the other team or out of bounds because he really struggle with reading the floor. That last argument actually one of the reason why he was so inconsistent last year. With some 12points games followed by some 35points games.
@@92KM1 im talking about the USA Team dummy.....
Everytime I hear you talking about trae I start to wonder who is dumb here? It's either you guys, for assuming there's no market for trae and not just that they knew dejounte was trash and trae is rock solid, or - and this I start thinking after I remember that you guys are actually well informed and talk to actual decision makers in the league - if a large pool of GM's you have access to are the dumb people, for supposedly valuing dejounte more than trae.
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"Paradoxical" should have been your word for the day. Paradoxical is something with two situations that doesn't make sense together i.e. Redick & LeBron.
They should have traded Trae young at least for their 2025 1st back. Now they give spurs cooper flagg or ace bailey for free.
yeah not how it works
Hawks making the playoffs lol
TYRESE MAXEY
Good player but that’s about it. Not an all star
I think Chet will make a significant leap this year in his all around game. 🤔
Mark my word...bronny is going to be in the conversation of the Rockie of the year only because the media will push it..
The rookie class is weak af that's why
Maybe for the G league...
Couldn't disagree with Tim more on questioning if Jamal Murray is a top 10 pg
He definitely isn't. He's not better than sga, curry, luka, dame, brunson, maxey, haliburton, trae, lamelo, harden, booker, fox or Ja
@@CharlesAshton-x6v Out of everyone you named by g, only Curry has proven to be winner in the clutch in the finals. The rest of your list is built on potential.
@@xKeyzerSozeThat is a Crazy take and I Like jamal. Luka is clearly better lol and has proved that time and time over again in the playoffs. A 30% Luka would have a ring with jokic besides him.
Lamelo Ball 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This title is so lame.
Trae young as easily, the most disrespected superstar in the NBA today. I will let these clowns laugh now and cry later all I’m gonna say.
"Nola doesn't have a center" has Daniel Theis on the roster.. he's a beast for germany.. can shoot the 3 n space for zion. Why the disrespect..
Because he's food lol if their frontcourt doesn't get beefed up, they'll get baptized by most legit bigs.
GMs should all be fired, they are terrible in building a team. Scouts are awful as well. Giving huge contracts is a big mistake. The draft lottery is a joke, you have a few good players that make a difference.
There is zero chance that Hartenstein is coming off the bench on any games. You do not sign a player who is making $29M a year to come off the bench. That is not happening
Its al about match ups. So who you gonna remove from the starting 5 then?
1920 😂
2019-2020
Bontemps reasoning sucks
Who is this guy Saying Jamal Murray not a top 10 PG in todays game ? He should be drug tested 😂
He hasn't even played yet so can he important all of you said that need to be toxed
Harden is done. He destroyed three teams. Good he lost money.
Man, ya'll should let Bontemps get his coffee first. Dude looks and sounds like he just got up from bed.
5:00 Only American white men who cover the NBA have the nerve to claim that Jokic and Luka are the two best players in the league yet speak negatively of Lamelo Ball and Trae Young because of their defense. You can't pretend that you care about defense when both Jokic and Luka are HORRIBLE defensive players 😂😂
The difference is that Luka and Jokic’s offense offsets their bad defense. There is no trace of racism in their analysis.
@vancearmstrong4542 LOL...can't have it both ways. Melo and Trae are both awesome offensively. Their teams just aren't built to win now like Denver and Dallas have surrounded Jokic and Luka with better win now teammates.
It was just a comment about size
Jokic isn’t that bad. Luka is tho.
@jonathans8760 are you kidding? Joking and Luka both are better passers. They both rebound far better for their position. They aren't even as good offensively efficiency wise as luka/jokic.
I see Randle leaving they gone ask him to play Center in small ball and how they gone pay hart and donate plus he a scorer Brunson holds the ball to much
Can wemby add to the spurs wins this year? Worst Rookie of the Year EVER
I am so glad Reddick isn't on ESPN anymore,
brian i respect u but this pod is 🥱🥱🥱
English brekfast only beans please ...lots of farting...
Like bro can they just rid of Tim Bontemps. This guy knows literally nothing.
On what planet should Donovan Mitchell be a ‘2nd option’ to Evan Mobley in order to win a title. Fire this guy!
Lol
Mitchell is very overrated
@@4ktkaram395Nobody sane puts Evan Mobley above Donovan Mitchell. Maybe learn to ‘read’ first ok there buddy
SAS is right, nobody wants to play for kerr. That’s why Klay left. KD too.
Ja Morant on the thumbnail and is discussed for about the time it takes to warm up a bagel in the toaster ... weak sauce and clickbait.
Definitely clicked on b/c I saw Ja and was anticipating the conversation around his play 😅
LMFAO - these fuckers FINALLY updated the thumbnail to Wemby instead of JA ... y'all got caught tho, admit it.
I'm not trying to crucify anyone out here nor do I wish to compare Chet and Wemby as players or their situations. They've both got a ton of success ahead of them. I just want to make it clear that I think it is absolute BS for Windy to talk about how good Wemby looked in his last 7-10 games and even suggest that we should put much of any stock in that, only for MacMahon to point out how Chet struggled shooting from deep towards the end of the regular season. Those two observations taken on their own are honestly nothing, but when you pair them together in a segment talking about Wemby and Chet, one can easily read between the lines and infer that, the Hoop Collective is suggesting this false narrative that Wemby is totally going to start next season as good as he finished last season and that Chet is totally going to struggle with his outside shot like he did towards the end of his season. That would be an utterly idiotic assumption to make, but it wouldn't be hard to get there based on how the pair were talked about in that segment.
So a team who is regularly in the playoffs and jus made the western conference finals a yr ago is irrelevant 😂wet blanket lives up to his name again 😂
Wow MIST IMPORTANT LOL I THINK EVERY IS but IGHHHHH
Lame asf topic
Not as bad your atrocious username and music taste