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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @bkelly625
    @bkelly625 День назад +33

    LaVine from 2020-2023 averaged like 26 5 and 5 on elite efficiency and made two All-Star teams but one injured down year and suddenly ESPN thinks he’s 74th best player and worse than Josh Hart 🤦‍♂️

    • @dprestons0318
      @dprestons0318 День назад +7

      Lamelo Ball was an All-star at age 20. He was actually ahead of Edwards in many ways. Then he gets hurt for two years. Now his game is suspect. It was the same thing when Hayward was here. I have seen this again and again. Hurt players pay a big price. People get frustrated with them. Then they start to apply it to their game. It is weird. It is like they have no memory. It is not right.

    • @user-bmw528
      @user-bmw528 День назад +4

      Cause he sucks at defense

    • @ryansproviero
      @ryansproviero День назад +2

      Then why doesn't anyone want him?

    • @AndyCruz-c6h
      @AndyCruz-c6h День назад +2

      Same with Bradley Beal they got him ranked below Josh Hart and Derrick white ??

    • @mambaASI
      @mambaASI День назад +3

      you can't take espn rankings seriously lol. I'm pretty sure they create dumb rankings for rage bait and clicks

  • @DD-sr9xm
    @DD-sr9xm 22 часа назад +5

    hoping for Lonzo to be able to play again. Gabe landeskog, captain of the Colorado avalanche, had the same procedure that Lonzo did and may return to hockey this year after missing two seasons. fingers crossed for both.

  • @Axdy.
    @Axdy. День назад +5

    Tim 100% the one who ranked Mike at 89

  • @kyleanderson6597
    @kyleanderson6597 14 часов назад

    I am so glad Josh Minott got some appreciation, Jaden McDaniels always accused Josh of trying to be like him and all of the sudden Josh is getting more and more like McDaniels in the best ways possible

  • @bullsfan2021
    @bullsfan2021 17 часов назад +3

    No idea that Sabrina shoes are somewhat popular among boys and men. That's cool. Shows that WNBA and their stars are on the come up.

    • @ElTuco84
      @ElTuco84 16 часов назад +1

      The shoes are cool tbh, better than several male signature shoes.

    • @mclark667
      @mclark667 Час назад

      WNBA is not on the come up, it's forced propaganda.

  • @8fifty_sayvo656
    @8fifty_sayvo656 19 часов назад

    “Blacked tf out w the timberwolves” is CRAAAAAAZZZYYYYY

  • @Shortballa11
    @Shortballa11 День назад +1

    Finally some Hornets talk. THey not even my team and I know they are going to be fun. Brandon Miller and LaMelo the next splash brothers for real.

  • @JoeSilverrav
    @JoeSilverrav 23 часа назад +8

    Bontemps is so committed to being on OKC’s jock. Previously he said that OKC had a weakness that was addressed by the Hartenstein signing. Now, he’s saying the Hartenstein signing was merely a luxury. It’s perplexing that the flawed backwards induction is put forth like it’s not flawed. Good grief. Be principled in your analysis, please.

    • @Joefdgtr
      @Joefdgtr 22 часа назад +2

      He's a luxury in that they signed him for free / Haywards contract which left their books.
      Okcs core is pretty much intact but they added a good starting centre to their roster so I would agree it is a luxury position to be.

    • @derekbrown3447
      @derekbrown3447 20 часов назад

      It was a "luxury" because he was only added to make them match up better against Dallas and maybe Denver. Hartenstein is a playoff addition, They had the 1 seed without him and lost nothing. They just needed more rebounding for specific matchups

    • @JoeSilverrav
      @JoeSilverrav 17 часов назад

      @@derekbrown3447 Ugh. I have zero desire to argue with you the difference between what a "luxury" is and what a "need" is, but if you "need" something, then it is not a luxury. A need is a binary. A luxury is something on the scale of the positive end of that binary.

    • @karsonrivers9880
      @karsonrivers9880 15 часов назад

      @@JoeSilverravthey didn’t need it they almost won without it. They wanted it and it helps and there was no real cost so it was definitely a luxury. I’d argue Caruso isn’t a luxury but hartenstein definitely is.

    • @schuylerkrizay6192
      @schuylerkrizay6192 9 часов назад

      @@karsonrivers9880 dog its the opposite. they have many guys who can lock up perimeter players. cason and lu are excellent defenders. caruso brings an excellent piece in his off ball shooting, ancillary ball handling, and all defense guard. but not at all a NEED compareed to hart

  • @JP-jd8wr
    @JP-jd8wr 18 часов назад +2

    I hope Lonzo can continue to play and have a 2nd half career similar to Shaun Livingston. Always loved his Kidd like game

  • @brewer921
    @brewer921 23 часа назад +3

    What happened to -- WE talk about the NBA?

  • @unconditionalLove1
    @unconditionalLove1 15 часов назад

    People like Bontemps in the media are putting such a huge target on this Thunder team’s backs. Everyone will be praying on their downfall

  • @AW-um2jg
    @AW-um2jg День назад +2

    No Kawhi talk?

    • @kirkliming5540
      @kirkliming5540 23 часа назад

      Thankfully

    • @kirkliming5540
      @kirkliming5540 23 часа назад

      Just need a moment away from the news with him lol. Great player

  • @rodrigoguedes8178
    @rodrigoguedes8178 День назад +1

    Tatu means Armadillo in Portuguese

  • @diymadness2330
    @diymadness2330 23 часа назад

    How many times did Brian fuss with this face using his hands this episode?

  • @currywatson3456
    @currywatson3456 23 часа назад +1

    I don't recall Bontemps ever praising Randle like this when he was a Knick lol. So once you're not a Knick anymore you get a lot of praise and love. Lame as hell.

    • @Phizzo4real
      @Phizzo4real 17 часов назад

      Funny, I feel the same about KAT. I am really intrigued to hear these clowns talk about KAT this season. His stats will be almost identical to his Wolves number. The dude is consistent af. But just watch, with the Knicks competing at the top of the East, the tone will change on KAT.

  • @WheresWaldo05
    @WheresWaldo05 21 час назад

    Lonzo had a full mcl donor replacement. It wasn't cartiledge lol. His mcl was demolished/gone. Bone on bone. When standing, it would be the tendon that goes right through the middle of the knee

    • @alex.p2194
      @alex.p2194 16 часов назад +1

      You think how well lonzo played the other night sustainable for the future

    • @WheresWaldo05
      @WheresWaldo05 13 часов назад

      @@alex.p2194 Doubtful. At best his career will now be like Jonathan Issac. Personally, i would have retired with something like that. I would not risk the rest of my lifes ability of being able to walk.

  • @rjonesy3480
    @rjonesy3480 6 часов назад

    We’re the Pistons not ready to trade for Zach Lavine and then he announced he was having season ending surgery? Is that not what happened?

  • @frazer4737
    @frazer4737 День назад +4

    Thibs must've played Hartenstein too much in preseason, oh wait...

    • @ElTuco84
      @ElTuco84 23 часа назад +1

      If Thibs didn't play Hartenstein in the playoffs his hand would be indestructible!!!

    • @frazer4737
      @frazer4737 22 часа назад

      @@ElTuco84 Exactly, I think Thibs dunked on him in practice and hurt his hand too

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 22 часа назад

      Making these poor guys play games a few times a week

  • @donflo3
    @donflo3 21 час назад

    58:33 As a New Jersey Nets fan, I sharply disagree. It’s bad enough we got transplanted.
    The Brooklyn Nets took everything else. Let us unofficially keep the name sake.

  • @Earl_E_Burd
    @Earl_E_Burd 21 час назад +4

    Bontemps is a child

  • @SoundBoykillaa
    @SoundBoykillaa 17 часов назад +1

    Sabrinas 😂

  • @bo0gi3
    @bo0gi3 22 часа назад

    Kobe would’ve loved what Wemby said about working. sometimes I wonder who he would support out of the new stars in the NBA

    • @youngboomerragevictim8857
      @youngboomerragevictim8857 22 часа назад +1

      Tatum

    • @bo0gi3
      @bo0gi3 22 часа назад

      @@youngboomerragevictim8857 well yea, Tatum & Book were trained by Kobe. I know he also liked Luka. but i’m referring to players that have been drafted since his passing.

  • @PetarZorić-k3b
    @PetarZorić-k3b 20 часов назад

    His new meniscus is OK, thank God for the bikers.

  • @MrMarley414
    @MrMarley414 15 часов назад

    Zach Lavine is a max player 💯💯

  • @WheresWaldo05
    @WheresWaldo05 21 час назад

    Wizards are perfect team for Lavine. They get a former/borderline all star player to boost their ticket sales. All while him not being a winning player so the wizards can still stink it up to attempt to get Flagg or a high level prospect in the draft by being a bad team. Win/Win.

    • @scottlarock7924
      @scottlarock7924 19 часов назад

      Kuz and Buz could be a fun pairing. Couz is such a good rebounder

  • @PatriotsAndTruth
    @PatriotsAndTruth 19 часов назад

    No one can be remotely surprised PG got hurt already. This is exactly what anybody with a brain predicted the moment the trade happened. Now Embiid will take the heavier load while PG is out which will lead to another Embiid injury. Its almost guaranteed

  • @vincentcampbell4399
    @vincentcampbell4399 22 часа назад

    The Nuggets were forced to give max. Teams today give max contracts to main key players on their teams. Murrays leverage was he could leave go to home town of Toronto!!

  • @alexisuconn96
    @alexisuconn96 День назад +1

    No impacts to winning but helped the team get to the play in year 2… empty stats but if you actually watch and follow the team you would know we’ve been plagued with injuries….

    • @Shortballa11
      @Shortballa11 23 часа назад +3

      Yea its funny how everyone forgets the two years he was healthy they went to the play-in and the two years he played less than 40 games the Hornets suck

    • @alexisuconn96
      @alexisuconn96 23 часа назад

      @@Shortballa11 exactly! Like what else is he supposed to do

  • @andrewarchuleta9314
    @andrewarchuleta9314 23 часа назад +10

    Why is dude in the hat on this show, is it a make a wish thing or something

  • @baldblade4852
    @baldblade4852 19 часов назад

    There are way too many players making max money that shouldn’t be. The league always creates these issues because owners want it all but immediately have buyer’s remorse. Stop handing out extensions to guys that aren’t even all star level players. They’re really going to need to reevaluate the pay scale because no one should be making more than guys that are MVP, FMVP and All NBA. But there are guys that do. Bron, Steph, KD, Joker and Giannis. Then everyone else are a pay tier below.

  • @bo0gi3
    @bo0gi3 День назад

    Sabrina shot brought back flashbacks to Luka shot over Gobert in the WCF 🔥🔥

  • @SynthTerror
    @SynthTerror 22 часа назад +3

    Middle-aged men shouldn't wear backward caps

  • @Neofilmcritic
    @Neofilmcritic 21 час назад +3

    This podcast has just become a Nuggets hate show. I’m done with BS

  • @MrJadude
    @MrJadude 21 час назад

    Nba is really the only sport that needs to scrap the cba and make new rules ....
    The cap is implemented horribly, max vs mid level stuff is implemented horribly , etc ....

  • @pegasusgiraffe
    @pegasusgiraffe 15 часов назад

    She should have called the shoes : "Ionescshoes". 😐

  • @lakritz1987
    @lakritz1987 23 часа назад

    It is pronounced Harten[sch-t-a-i-n]

  • @blablablaa14
    @blablablaa14 20 часов назад +1

    Basketball talk starts at 9:18, they wasting out time prior

    • @Capo_1291
      @Capo_1291 20 часов назад

      Appreciate that

  • @rbob2416
    @rbob2416 13 часов назад

    Basically, Bontemps shits on everyone except for the dumpster fire in Philly. Guy is delusional.

  • @uthamanj
    @uthamanj 19 часов назад

    Zach Lavine for Kawahi Leonard straight up.

  • @harrybenjamin8202
    @harrybenjamin8202 17 часов назад

    The Nuggets deserve to suck after losing KCP

  • @brandoni241
    @brandoni241 День назад +1

    I think OKC made a mistake giving Hartenstein that much money. There is no way other were offering him $25 million a year. He can't stretch the floor, he's not a notable inside scorer, he is an average rim protector at best, and a decent rebounder. Zubac is better and doesn't make anything near that...

    • @mambaASI
      @mambaASI День назад +3

      Its obviously an overpay, but okc doesn't really care and they kinda had to spend the money cuz they would fall below the minimum I think. The contract is a total non-issue as okc is still well under the second apron, and by the time they have to give extensions to guys like j dub and chet, they will have a team option as per the contract to let ihart go and not pay him in the final year of the deal. Its a mistake for most other teams to give that kinda contract to that kinda player but not for okc. Also ihart fits their team needs very well. All they need from him is his solid rebounding, defense at the 4/5, some playmaking in the short roll, and overall hustle and grind all of which okc was lacking.

    • @Shortballa11
      @Shortballa11 23 часа назад

      For sure, But with all their assets they can make mistakes and still Win

    • @tjjoshlj4968
      @tjjoshlj4968 23 часа назад +1

      It is more money than he is worth, but signing him doesn’t even put them over the salary cap, let alone the first or second apron, and his contract doesn’t interfere with extending J-dubs and Chet. There is literally no negative to signing him, because he can also be used as salary filler on the off chance they want to trade for a big name, which probably won’t happen anyway

    • @Joefdgtr
      @Joefdgtr 22 часа назад

      They probably wanted a short term contract to rent their cap space effectively. They know they can't secure him long term with Chet and Williams getting maxed out inevitably

    • @brandoni241
      @brandoni241 21 час назад

      @@mambaASI you're probably right. The more I think about it, Hartenstein's market was probably a 3 year-$60 million and he got that in 2 years with this contract...

  • @Capo_1291
    @Capo_1291 20 часов назад +1

    Use this like button to let them know we still don’t care to watch the wnba.

    • @daniel2pantoja
      @daniel2pantoja 19 часов назад +2

      I care

    • @Capo_1291
      @Capo_1291 19 часов назад +1

      @@daniel2pantoja congratulations

    • @mclark667
      @mclark667 Час назад

      Maybe if they pretend it's popular long enough we'll come around 😂

  • @jeremyjazwinski6349
    @jeremyjazwinski6349 День назад

    still no talk about Lowe ?

    • @undiscoveredstars1002
      @undiscoveredstars1002 День назад +5

      They spoke about him the podcast after it happened

    • @RizzMafia_
      @RizzMafia_ День назад +1

      @@undiscoveredstars1002ignore the misinformed