The secret to shooting in low light with every camera is to using a prime lens with minimum F1.4 and you will be have no problem at all. I am really happy with my FX 30.
I actually find the FX 30 VERY useable up to ISO 6400 - add a bit of Davinci NR and a bit of film 'grain' - and honestly ISO 2500 is a very nice high 2nd base (most high end cinema cameras don't go any higher than that!) Fast lenses can help - even better if you can add just a touch of light ...
The secret to low light is not to shoot in low light 🤣 but seriously f/1.4 helps a crap ton, f/1.8 isn't terrible either and people need to stop being so scared of bumping the ISO a little. Even my old A6600 is decent up to about ISO6400.
Faster lenses definitely help here. I have a video coming out soon that will better illustrate lenses for the FX30 and have some faster f/1.4 lenses in there. 👍
I have 3 FF bodies, and just purchased Cropped Sensor for BTS. Must say, I am pleasantly surprised what a quality Crop Sensor delivers. We now even mix Crop Sensor footage with FF footage, with great success. So in my opinion, crop sensor is not an issue at all.
It's awesome how well it can blend together with other Sony cameras, especially when there is plenty of light. I'm still using my FX30 and loving it overall
This camera combined with the FX3 for shooters like me that need flexibility for different run and gun scenarios, is a powerhouse like no other! The 4K 60&120 always deliver me results! I’m not sure why some are complaining about this cam either when you think about the price point this cam is at LOL 😂 it’s beyond bargain.
😂 I know...take any youtube reviewers with a teaspoon of salt. It's taking information from what they say but the end of the day it's what you feel is best for you and how you use your tools, experience is always best teacher.
There are pros and cons to every camera! The FX30 isn't perfect, but it's about as perfect as you can get for the price point. I wouldn't be honest if I only said the positives about something, and understanding the downsides to any camera will allow you to get the best results with it. I remember saving for months for my first camera (it was nowhere near as expensive as the FX30), and if someone only told me the good parts and left out the bad... I would have been pretty upset and felt misled. Not trying to be a downer about the camera! Just trying to be real with you guys 🙏
After Canons, our biggest pains were with FX30: - you can ONLY set headphones level in menu (you cannot assign to any button) WHEN you're not recording, because menu is not accessible during recording! - no proper waveform, - battery in percentage format instead of hh:mm or minutes (on Canons you can see warnings before battery goes flat, but Sony) - sound level display is a joke, - remaining rec time left on cards are not separated on main display, only in Main > Main2 menu - you should have to keep a battery in the camera (even if flat) to use it from external power
One thing that also made the FX30 so attractive was its pricing for students on Adorama. It only costs 1500 without the top handle regardless of holiday sales or time of year which made it an even simpler decision! Eventually I will get a more expensive fully featured cinema camera (Probably from the sony cinema line full frames) but getting started as a student with that price point made it even better of an offering than the BMCC or BMPCC cameras which are almost all above that pricing!
You’re welcome! I use the fx30 for talking heads or locked off shots and it works great - but when I’m shooting cars or using faster camera movements, I can definitely see the rolling shutter issues in the frame. Sports may be problematic depending on how you move the camera and how fast things are moving
My FX30 is my A camera even though I have the FX3. I love the lighter setup with APSC lenses. I shoot with no PP and the video quality is more than enough for my RUclips videos. I use the 11mm F1.8 for low light situations and I have not had any challenges. Due to the lower cost, I am also much less nervous about damaging the camera than when I use my FX3. This is important for me as most of my recordings are outdoor on the move.
I feel the same. I've got an A7S3 and there's no doubt it is a beast, but for normal 24/30/60p 4k the FX30 is also a beast. I like the small footprint of APSC a lot too. I would have preferred a smaller MP sensor to avoid all of the wacky cropping shenanigans, but I really like using it none the less.
@@LiveProperBrand a7S3 is full frame, it's heavier, more expensive, and lenses are heavier and more expensive. So it depends a bit on what you're comfortable with.
The rolling shutter in 24p with the FX30 is measured to 15.9ms by several serious reviewers with a let’s say slightly more scientific approach than yours. This is in line with the R5, the R5C, the C70 and the R6ii. It’s however a lot better than the a7iv, which is measured at 25ms in the full frame 7k downsampled readout. How you can say they look similar is mindblowingly misleading. And I own both.
I understand that my approach to rolling shutter isn't the most "scientific", but my test is whether or not I (and clients) can notice the rolling shutter. Looking at the FX3/6, I can't notice any rolling shutter with those cameras but with the FX30 I can. So while the numbers between the FX30 and A7IV are different, but I can still notice the rolling shutter so it doesnt really matter to me what the numbers are - youre going to notice it either way if youre filming fast moving subjects. If a client was paying me to film something that was moving quickly (sports, cars, etc) I wouldn't use any of those cameras because the footage would look like it's warping from side to side when moving the camera. I don't think it's "mindblowingly misleading" to say they look similar, they both have RS issues. I think it would be misleading to not mention it. Thanks for the feedback and I'll try to phrase things differently in the future.
thanks for mentioning rolling shutter, most creators focus on resolution and low light performance, for me all new cameras have great quality and are more than i would expect from such affordable and small bodies which is fantastic, my only pain is rOLLing ShUtERRR, i just frustrating for the eye, and this is the thing holdoing me from buying the fx30. Thanks for the review, keep up the good work @@keith-knittel
I have read many reviews saying it is worse than the A7iV which I have but since I do not own the FX30 I can say, Do you have both? Thinking about picking up an FX30
Fab video but I’m a bit thick when it comes to crop 😂 Would the uncropped 4K 60 on this apsc sensor be better quality than the cropped 4K 60 from the A7C II full frame camera?
My next question is why did you buy it? According to your video is a horrible camera. Crop factor low light is unusable etc. I don't understand why you bought it.
The FX30 is a great camera for the price. I purchased this camera knowing it would be a little different than my full frame cameras. It does require more light, wider and faster lenses - but for simple talking heads and shots with little movement, this camera is fantastic and I'll be keeping it for a very long time. I wanted to highlight some of the pros and cons in this video - I'm working on another video going over "How to get the best image out of the FX30" right now that's a little more positive and upbeat ha
@@keith-knittel Thx. I have the Arri Alexa 35 non Full Frame and also I own Blackmagic and this Sony FX30. Since it says is a cinema camera I use Cinema lenses T0.5 T1.5 and also Sigma Sony 1.4. There's no problem with low light on this camera if you use a fast glass. Also the exposure plays a re and I find at ISO 6400 there's no problem at all. I prefer Super 35 than FF for films. Thx.
Your opinion sir please, I love how you explain things well, I have a fx30 and r50 canon, just bought a Sony zve 1 full frame , would u keep the zve1 or take it back I like the fx30 and it records long I was just wondering what would u do sir
I had A7SIII and sold it for FX30 because the ISO was closer together. 12800 is so high and I was finding I was forced to stop down or ND even at night
Very interesting take! The FX30 is still alright in low light, I'm just totally spoiled by full frame Sony cameras. If you're mostly shooting video, the video features are pretty nice on the FX30, coming from the A7S III. Big fan of the preview LUTs on the FX30 instead of using zebras and gamma display assist on the A7S III!
I was chatting with my assistant today about the same thing, I do not shoot really dark scenes but many times need more than 800 and when I had to go to 12,800 on my sold FX3 I had to add so much ND it was ridiculous at times.
Nice review, Finally someone who is not talking about it as a RUclips selfie vlogging video camera which it is not, so tired of the peoples reviews of this for a RUclips Vlogging camera. Any updates on your opinion after another year has gone by and you say B and C camera? What camera is your A camera? Thanks!
Maybe I should do an updated video, but I'm using the FX6 and 3 as my A/B cameras and the FX30 as my C camera. Typically my top-down or tighter static angles on a tripod-type shots. As long as there is enough light and there are no fast-moving frames, it's a fantastic camera. The rolling shutter and matching the fx3/6 in low light when they are using 12,800 ISO is the biggest "issue", but for the money, I still think it's a fantastic camera
@@keith-knittel Thanks, I had the FX3 and sold it but never really used 120 4K, so check there, I also hardly used 12,800 iso either and when I did it was just bc I need slightly more ISO for some semi low light situations and when I did I had to add a ton of VND as well. So I was thinking about getting the FX30 to go along with my A7IV as a Back up and or mainly video camera. If I run into needing a much higher ISO I could always use the A7IV I imagine. Thanks.
I cant see problem with crop sensor it isnt that big deal, and its not APS-C its Super35 difference first is in actual crop factor of 1.5 in super35 instead of 1.62 or 1.61 on most APS-C cameras... Also smaller sensors downside is only capture less light... But u have better controll of your focus, less heat, better battery life in most cases, slightly cheaper lens in pro category and actually opportunity to use full frame tele lens with even bigger magnification...
Huh. The global industry standard for APS-C is 1.5x crop. It's not "1.62 or 1.61 on most APS-C cameras". That's ONLY CANON. Canon does that so they can sell more cameras per wafer. Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Pentax/Ricoh all use 1.5x
@@tricc7686 Super35 is not APS-C. They're close, but traditional Super35 is 1.3x-1.4x depending on manufacturer. The Alexa Mini for example is 1.27x. RED Komodo 6K is 1.4x. That's Super35. APS-C is mostly 1.5x and only Canon does 1.6x. So when you said "its not APS-C its Super35 difference first is in actual crop factor of 1.5 in super35 instead of 1.62 or 1.61 on most APS-C cameras". That's entirely wrong.
Hi Keith, yesterday I purchased the Sony FX30 as my primary camera and the Sony ZV-E10 as my secondary camera. I'm new to photography and videography, although I have taken great pictures in the past using SLR cameras and early digital cameras. Now, I bought these cameras specifically for indoor and outdoor video blogging and interviews. Could you please advise me on how to seamlessly combine videos and audios from both cameras without any issues? Which software would be perfect for this task and user-friendly as well? Thanks in advance!
@@realarkeli, Please let me know when you set it up. I wish there is an option to combine videos and record both under one software so that I can see both videos in two different windows but under one software and then I pick and choose the visual, but the underlying audio will go seamlessly
Congrats on the purchase! Those are two solid cameras - I'm in the process of making videos about shooting weddings, interviews, talking heads, etc - Im working on the wedding one right now, but will work on the interview video next! Anything you'd like to know in particular? I'll include combining the video from both cameras and working with audio. I will also include how to edit the videos. Anything else you'd be interested in knowing? I can try to work it into the next videos
Congrats on the cameras! I have a few videos on the way that I'm working on now - but will be making a "How to film Interviews" video within the next few weeks/month. Anything you'd like to know in particular? I can try to include it in the next video.
@@keith-knittel Hi Kieth! As I mentioned, I'm new to photography and video. First of all, thanks for your informative videos. Please continue to post more as they will greatly help people like me who are venturing into this field. I work in IT but have a strong passion for professional photography and would love to learn more. I have a particular interest in capturing amazing indoor interviews and outdoor professional-grade videos. Now, it's just a passion, but I hope to improve and make it a professional appeal Regarding video and audio mixing, I have a few questions: 1. Which software is easy and quick to combine and edit two videos and audios from different cameras? 2. When shooting, do you record audio separately or connect it to each camera? Or does one camera capture the audio while the other captures the video? 3. When using two microphones, such as one clipped on the subject and the other being a shotgun microphone, how do you ensure there is no echo? For example, if one microphone is attached to the subject's shirt on the chest and the other is mounted on one of the cameras, there is a chance of echo. How do you overcome this issue? 4. Since you use two cameras placed at different angles, how do you mix the sounds together without any syncing problems? I will be using two cameras and two microphones - a DJI microphone attached to the subject's shirt (on the chest) and a Rode shotgun microphone on one of the cameras. How can I properly sync the videos and audios from these two different cameras and microphones? Thank you in advance for your guidance!
@@keith-knittel Thanks, I mean XAVC-x ? fps ?, ISO, 10bit 2:2:x ? and what lenses are you using? BTW how do you recomend to export for youtube or reels / tiktok (settings) Thank you very much for your answer, love your videos
Another Ohioan turned New Yorker, I see you bro! My girl and I are up in Harlem, where do you stay? Likely going to be buying this based on price point. My heart was sold on the Sony A7IV for a year now, and I just found out about the FX30. You look pretty established with your gear, as someone who is looking to make short films & long-form RUclips content, would you recommend the FX30 or Sony A7IV? For context, I won't have access to studio lighting for some time and will be working to make videos in natural light whenever possible. Either way, my fingers are crossed for a nice Black Friday deal!
Yes A7IV have a crop but it’s from full frame so it will be the same equivalent as the FX30 with no crop. I’m not sure why this camera compare a lot with full frame since it’s a APS-C camera? It should be compared with A6000-series in my opinion.
I currently shoot on a sonya6600 but I have been eyeing the fx30. At first I wanted to go Sony a7siii but I like the squares look of the fx30 since it doesn’t have a viewfinder and I focus on video
Thanks for the video... My gripe about the fx30 is all that crop on a apsc sensor. Lens FF crop, ibis crop, 4k crop, lens breathing crop, post stabilization crop... You're left with a sensor size as small as a pinky hahaha
Torn between my bmpcc 6K pro … it’s a lot of work I’m super use to my a7iii and looking to go beyond that and it’s liking me working between the black magic and Sony. Want a fx3 but price range of fx30 is so great. … what do you consider? I have tons of content on my channel. I think this will be a better suit but how do you feel?
Choose the right tool for the job. If autofocus is your jam and like built in stabilization, the BM is not your jam. If you like a more natural cinema grade color, going to make the effort to stabilize the camera, don't mind manual focusing, and like cinema tools, and built in ND filter then BMCC maybe your jam. I have used both bigger brothers, the URSA and the Sony fs5/fx6 and I'd shoot with the URSA hands down for most projects.
I have not compared the blackmagic 4k to the fx30, but going to try to pick up a pyxis in the next few months to try out. Will try to get a bmpcc 4k to try out
So if you load a lut and it’s baked in to the display, do you not need to worry about monitoring the zebra lines or gamma assist? Do you just load it and shoot?
Not much of a vlogger, but the ZVE1 is full frame, so comparing that to the FX30, you'll need to have some wider lenses on the FX30 to vlog with this. I think the ZVE1 has some more "content creator"-focused features that may be helpful for vlogging. Sorry I'm not much of a help here, I've never used the ZVE1
fx 30 upgrading to 2.0 reads lexar sd 128gb 270mb/s 1800x class 10 uhs-ii v60 and sd uhs-ii 128gb v60: write speed up to 130mb/s and read speed 250mb/s or sdxc prograde v60 uhs- the 128gb ?
I'd love to make a dedicated video going over that! I've included them in videos in the past but after a few people who said they were boring, I left them out. I think making a dedicated video going over the recording options, then which ones I use for what would be an interesting video. Anything in particular you'd like to know? Thanks for the feedback!
Hey brother ❤I just bought the fx30, I’m not a photographer just for video purpose, now I’m kinda regretting that for a savings of few hundred dollars I missed out on a full frame sony camera? I kind of worried if fx30 is future proof as of today
It depends on what you want to do, for most cases the sony fx30 is a better option, the bmpcc 6k is more like a cinema camera and if you are not interested in learning how to color grade and try to take advantage of BRAW , I think the FX30 is a better option unless you are planning to do only short films or music videos on a set. Just my opinion, I'm not an expert PD: I have a bmpcc 6k
I'd agree. The FX30 can be setup to shoot Sony's rec709, or SCinetone which is essentially a finished "look", great for fast turnaround and minimal post production. XAVCS and XAVCHS are pretty good too for most things, just keep it all in 10-bit color. Also if I'm not mistaken the Blackmagic is an MFT sensor, which is smaller than APSC, hardly a deal breaker but you would need to take that into consideration particularly if you want really wide angles, they will be a little easier to achieve with slightly less of a crop.
if you don‘t want a bulky camera and want to shoot with compact autofocus camera with good lowbligjt sony cameras are good, but the image of bmpcc‘s are very good, I have the 4k and the og but I feel like it‘s too heavy and annoying for longer shootings when I have to stand around and pull focus all the time, now I wish I had a sony, also bc of the field of view, but I don‘t regret buying the bmd cameras
As long as you're not doing whip pans constantly, I haven't been able to be put off by the rolling shutter on this camera. Just depends on how much you're moving the camera around and how fast the action is when you're filming boxing. I'll try to film some boxing and action for a future video!
Lol when u start comparing it with Sony full frames, all with the new sensor. But seriously, in the APS-C kingdom, this is a very good video camera, yes? Am thinking of marrying this with the Tamron 17-70 f2.8.... Hmmmm...
Kinda tired of hearing that fx30 has "bad low light capabilities" yeah mabybe if youre going run&gun and not filming a professional video with lighting, gaffers, dp ect its kinda hard, but it ALL call be solved and saved with the power of davinci's noise reduction tool, its STUPID good, for real.
I don't mean to say it's not usable in low light, but when comparing it to full frame Sony cameras, you'll be able to tell a difference in low light. Matching the cameras can be difficult if using the higher base ISOs for each camera, but its still usable. Don't mean to be all doom and gloom, but want to make sure I mention the potential downsides to products I'm talking about too
In any ways i was trying to undermine your work or this review, but i often see that people are very influenceable when it comes to "what to or not to" buy and they also have to understand that, if they have only certain amount of money to invest and their not professionals yet, something like "grainy low light footage" isnt a deal breaker when you have the possibilitie to change it in post. Of course if i had the money i wouldnt even buy my fx30, i would go ahead and buy an fx6 😂@@keith-knittel
Yes finally someone who gets it! If you're a paid professional, do folks not show up with some sort of lighting? At the end of the day, garbage in equals garbage out.
For optical image stabilization, you'll need a compatible lens for that. Like the full frame 24-105 (the only optical steady shot lens I have). Without an OSS lens, you still have access to active stabilization on the FX30 though.
This is a fantastic entry point to the Sony cinema line, or a great b or c camera for other Sony cameras. No such thing as a perfect camera, just knowing how to work around the limitations is important
So wouldn’t these failings be resolved with a Ninja V shooting ProRes RAW over HDMI? Yes, it’s another $700 but we are talking about gear that competing with $10K cameras? I’m looking at this for in studio shooting vs S7iii and keeping it under $3K
Recording Prores RAW wont help with the low light performance or the rolling shutter, but filming in a studio - you can control the lighting. And the rolling shutter wouldn't be a big deal unless youre whipping the camera around. Buy faster and wider glass to get around the crop, and the FX30 would be a good studio camera! If you're looking at an A7SIII and want to keep it under 3k, make sure youre factoring in glass and storage as well
Ended up buying the Sony Alpha 1 (because of the Low light and ability to Record 8K internal to 4K Ninja per Gerald Undone… and I could put it on my Dell account and pay it off over the next 12 months) and, G Master glass… that was the main reason I first bought into the Nikon… big investment in Nikkor glass and I mostly shot manually on my Rhino slider…
Yeah, it really came down to my application (shooting Theatre under studio (low) lighting and getting the best color science and pixels to tweak in post… and I was able to put it on my Dell account and pay-off in a year… so “affordable”
Great video man! I have this as my B camera (a7iv as A cam). Have you noticed this fx30 seems to drain batteries super quick? Any settings that you know of that may help reduce that?
Huh. I find my A7S3 chews through batteries quicker than my FX30, I attribute that to the sensor size and viewfinder, but I might have left some of the wireless stuff on that isn't on in my FX30, lol, I haven't looked. If you're not using much of the wifi/Bluetooth stuff, turn it all off. Also I would imagine optical steady shot/power zoom lens stuff would consume more than lenses without. Other than that I'm not sure. I don't think I have any lenses that have OSS or power zoom so I wouldn't be able to say if that has a noticeable effect.
Depends on what you're filming too - higher frame rates can drain the batteries faster. I havent dont a side by side test, but I've been happy with the FX30 battery life so far. I do use V-mounts on longer shoots though, so maybe that has something to do with it
@@keith-knittel they work really well for someone like me. I'm just a mechanic trying to make things look a little nicer. A lot of times I can throw on a neutral lut and we ball
It sucks!! The camera, not your video. Sony FX 30 is not a real "cinema camera", it is a vlogging camera with video log capabilities. Any true, cinema camera gives you raw data from the sensor anytime, on camera and externally. Low light capability with usable footage is NOT better than Blackmagic Design Pocket series 4K or 6K. Ha!
@@keith-knittel trust me I understand but we are just in a time where everyone is sounding like robots I’m trying to find someone who is organic. It’s still relevant and Good content.
For video only, I'd pick the FX30 - easier tools for filming in LOG for the most dynamic range, Cine EI and best of all, can shoot 4k 120 if you need it, it doesnt over heat BUT it struggles at shooting photos. If you need to shoot photos, don't shoot LOG (or don't mind exposing with zebra stripes) and don't shoot 4K 60 for long periods of time, the A7 IV is a fantastic camera. Tough choice honestly
@@keith-knittel Thanks for the answer!! That's what I've been thinking... In picking up the FX30. But then I think "rolling shutter in A7iv in crop mode is better... 1080p in A7IV is also better... what do I dooo?" haha I guess I'm gonna wait on that A6700 or the A7CII to see what they'll come up with 😂😂
The secret to shooting in low light with every camera is to using a prime lens with minimum F1.4 and you will be have no problem at all.
I am really happy with my FX 30.
I actually find the FX 30 VERY useable up to ISO 6400 - add a bit of Davinci NR and a bit of film 'grain' - and honestly ISO 2500 is a very nice high 2nd base (most high end cinema cameras don't go any higher than that!) Fast lenses can help - even better if you can add just a touch of light ...
The secret to low light is not to shoot in low light 🤣 but seriously f/1.4 helps a crap ton, f/1.8 isn't terrible either and people need to stop being so scared of bumping the ISO a little. Even my old A6600 is decent up to about ISO6400.
Faster lenses definitely help here. I have a video coming out soon that will better illustrate lenses for the FX30 and have some faster f/1.4 lenses in there. 👍
I’m considering buying one over my a7iii what do you think?
The secret to shooting in low light is to use light.
I have 3 FF bodies, and just purchased Cropped Sensor for BTS. Must say, I am pleasantly surprised what a quality Crop Sensor delivers. We now even mix Crop Sensor footage with FF footage, with great success. So in my opinion, crop sensor is not an issue at all.
It's awesome how well it can blend together with other Sony cameras, especially when there is plenty of light. I'm still using my FX30 and loving it overall
This camera combined with the FX3 for shooters like me that need flexibility for different run and gun scenarios, is a powerhouse like no other! The 4K 60&120 always deliver me results! I’m not sure why some are complaining about this cam either when you think about the price point this cam is at LOL 😂 it’s beyond bargain.
Here I’m shooting with my cheap phone and he’s complaining on Sony fx30 😂😢 sad life
😂 I know...take any youtube reviewers with a teaspoon of salt.
It's taking information from what they say but the end of the day it's what you feel is best for you and how you use your tools, experience is always best teacher.
@@flat-out feel you bro 😂
There are pros and cons to every camera! The FX30 isn't perfect, but it's about as perfect as you can get for the price point. I wouldn't be honest if I only said the positives about something, and understanding the downsides to any camera will allow you to get the best results with it. I remember saving for months for my first camera (it was nowhere near as expensive as the FX30), and if someone only told me the good parts and left out the bad... I would have been pretty upset and felt misled. Not trying to be a downer about the camera! Just trying to be real with you guys 🙏
@@keith-knittel Would you say the FX30 is better for someone who wants to focus more on filmmaking vs the a7 IV?
After Canons, our biggest pains were with FX30:
- you can ONLY set headphones level in menu (you cannot assign to any button) WHEN you're not recording, because menu is not accessible during recording!
- no proper waveform,
- battery in percentage format instead of hh:mm or minutes (on Canons you can see warnings before battery goes flat, but Sony)
- sound level display is a joke,
- remaining rec time left on cards are not separated on main display, only in Main > Main2 menu
- you should have to keep a battery in the camera (even if flat) to use it from external power
Can you update your comment after the V2 firmware? Thanks.
One thing that also made the FX30 so attractive was its pricing for students on Adorama. It only costs 1500 without the top handle regardless of holiday sales or time of year which made it an even simpler decision! Eventually I will get a more expensive fully featured cinema camera (Probably from the sony cinema line full frames) but getting started as a student with that price point made it even better of an offering than the BMCC or BMPCC cameras which are almost all above that pricing!
For sure, for the price this is a fantastic camera!
Out of all the issues you mention, it’s honestly the rolling shutter that makes me saddest.
me toooooo
everything is great for me, it is just for the rolling shutter omgg
@@alimog9347 Rolling shutter is over-exaggerated. If you need speed, just buy a XH2S or A1 or FX3 or A9iii.
Just bought this and I’m from Cleveland as well! Crazy!
CLE!!!
Damn this audio is crispy.
we need an FX60, a baby fx6, that will replace the fs series with NDs build in and IBIS with aps-c sensor.
That would be awesome! Sony, if you're listening, would buy
You can uploaded false color lut and gyroflo or catalyst for rolling shutter fix
Happy to see another Clevelander in film! Keep it up!
CLE!! Thanks man!
Thank you for the feedback on the FX30. Still considering this camera but the rolling shutter may be an issue for me with sports.
You’re welcome! I use the fx30 for talking heads or locked off shots and it works great - but when I’m shooting cars or using faster camera movements, I can definitely see the rolling shutter issues in the frame. Sports may be problematic depending on how you move the camera and how fast things are moving
My FX30 is my A camera even though I have the FX3. I love the lighter setup with APSC lenses.
I shoot with no PP and the video quality is more than enough for my RUclips videos.
I use the 11mm F1.8 for low light situations and I have not had any challenges.
Due to the lower cost, I am also much less nervous about damaging the camera than when I use my FX3. This is important for me as most of my recordings are outdoor on the move.
Meanwhile the ZV-E1 I just bought I'm very careful with it.. 😭😂
I feel the same. I've got an A7S3 and there's no doubt it is a beast, but for normal 24/30/60p 4k the FX30 is also a beast. I like the small footprint of APSC a lot too. I would have preferred a smaller MP sensor to avoid all of the wacky cropping shenanigans, but I really like using it none the less.
Is it better to choose the a7siii or fx30??
@@LiveProperBrand a7S3 is full frame, it's heavier, more expensive, and lenses are heavier and more expensive. So it depends a bit on what you're comfortable with.
@@LiveProperBrand I can’t tell you. They are two different cameras. I recommend you watch some reviews.
The rolling shutter in 24p with the FX30 is measured to 15.9ms by several serious reviewers with a let’s say slightly more scientific approach than yours. This is in line with the R5, the R5C, the C70 and the R6ii.
It’s however a lot better than the a7iv, which is measured at 25ms in the full frame 7k downsampled readout. How you can say they look similar is mindblowingly misleading. And I own both.
I understand that my approach to rolling shutter isn't the most "scientific", but my test is whether or not I (and clients) can notice the rolling shutter. Looking at the FX3/6, I can't notice any rolling shutter with those cameras but with the FX30 I can. So while the numbers between the FX30 and A7IV are different, but I can still notice the rolling shutter so it doesnt really matter to me what the numbers are - youre going to notice it either way if youre filming fast moving subjects. If a client was paying me to film something that was moving quickly (sports, cars, etc) I wouldn't use any of those cameras because the footage would look like it's warping from side to side when moving the camera. I don't think it's "mindblowingly misleading" to say they look similar, they both have RS issues. I think it would be misleading to not mention it. Thanks for the feedback and I'll try to phrase things differently in the future.
thanks for mentioning rolling shutter, most creators focus on resolution and low light performance, for me all new cameras have great quality and are more than i would expect from such affordable and small bodies which is fantastic, my only pain is rOLLing ShUtERRR, i just frustrating for the eye, and this is the thing holdoing me from buying the fx30. Thanks for the review, keep up the good work @@keith-knittel
@simonyoung1339 It's funny that you trust the numbers and not your eyes.
I have read many reviews saying it is worse than the A7iV which I have but since I do not own the FX30 I can say, Do you have both? Thinking about picking up an FX30
Fab video but I’m a bit thick when it comes to crop 😂 Would the uncropped 4K 60 on this apsc sensor be better quality than the cropped 4K 60 from the A7C II full frame camera?
My next question is why did you buy it? According to your video is a horrible camera. Crop factor low light is unusable etc. I don't understand why you bought it.
The FX30 is a great camera for the price. I purchased this camera knowing it would be a little different than my full frame cameras. It does require more light, wider and faster lenses - but for simple talking heads and shots with little movement, this camera is fantastic and I'll be keeping it for a very long time. I wanted to highlight some of the pros and cons in this video - I'm working on another video going over "How to get the best image out of the FX30" right now that's a little more positive and upbeat ha
@@keith-knittel Thx. I have the Arri Alexa 35 non Full Frame and also I own Blackmagic and this Sony FX30. Since it says is a cinema camera I use Cinema lenses T0.5 T1.5 and also Sigma Sony 1.4. There's no problem with low light on this camera if you use a fast glass. Also the exposure plays a re and I find at ISO 6400 there's no problem at all. I prefer Super 35 than FF for films. Thx.
Which camera are you using to record this video?
great b and c cam to a7siii and fx3. its also great for studio macro
Thats how I'm using it and absolutely love it. For the price, it's a fantastic camera.
Thanks Mr Keith have a blessed day sir
Thanks, you as well
Your opinion sir please, I love how you explain things well, I have a fx30 and r50 canon, just bought a Sony zve 1 full frame , would u keep the zve1 or take it back I like the fx30 and it records long I was just wondering what would u do sir
I had A7SIII and sold it for FX30 because the ISO was closer together. 12800 is so high and I was finding I was forced to stop down or ND even at night
Very interesting take! The FX30 is still alright in low light, I'm just totally spoiled by full frame Sony cameras. If you're mostly shooting video, the video features are pretty nice on the FX30, coming from the A7S III. Big fan of the preview LUTs on the FX30 instead of using zebras and gamma display assist on the A7S III!
@@keith-knittel FX30 ISOs also match Venice
I was chatting with my assistant today about the same thing, I do not shoot really dark scenes but many times need more than 800 and when I had to go to 12,800 on my sold FX3 I had to add so much ND it was ridiculous at times.
Nice review, Finally someone who is not talking about it as a RUclips selfie vlogging video camera which it is not, so tired of the peoples reviews of this for a RUclips Vlogging camera.
Any updates on your opinion after another year has gone by and you say B and C camera? What camera is your A camera? Thanks!
Maybe I should do an updated video, but I'm using the FX6 and 3 as my A/B cameras and the FX30 as my C camera. Typically my top-down or tighter static angles on a tripod-type shots. As long as there is enough light and there are no fast-moving frames, it's a fantastic camera. The rolling shutter and matching the fx3/6 in low light when they are using 12,800 ISO is the biggest "issue", but for the money, I still think it's a fantastic camera
@@keith-knittel Thanks, I had the FX3 and sold it but never really used 120 4K, so check there, I also hardly used 12,800 iso either and when I did it was just bc I need slightly more ISO for some semi low light situations and when I did I had to add a ton of VND as well. So I was thinking about getting the FX30 to go along with my A7IV as a Back up and or mainly video camera. If I run into needing a much higher ISO I could always use the A7IV I imagine. Thanks.
I cant see problem with crop sensor it isnt that big deal, and its not APS-C its Super35 difference first is in actual crop factor of 1.5 in super35 instead of 1.62 or 1.61 on most APS-C cameras... Also smaller sensors downside is only capture less light... But u have better controll of your focus, less heat, better battery life in most cases, slightly cheaper lens in pro category and actually opportunity to use full frame tele lens with even bigger magnification...
Huh. The global industry standard for APS-C is 1.5x crop. It's not "1.62 or 1.61 on most APS-C cameras". That's ONLY CANON. Canon does that so they can sell more cameras per wafer.
Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Pentax/Ricoh all use 1.5x
@@professionalpotato4764 what did i said wrong
@@tricc7686 Super35 is not APS-C. They're close, but traditional Super35 is 1.3x-1.4x depending on manufacturer. The Alexa Mini for example is 1.27x. RED Komodo 6K is 1.4x. That's Super35.
APS-C is mostly 1.5x and only Canon does 1.6x. So when you said "its not APS-C its Super35 difference first is in actual crop factor of 1.5 in super35 instead of 1.62 or 1.61 on most APS-C cameras". That's entirely wrong.
Hi Keith, yesterday I purchased the Sony FX30 as my primary camera and the Sony ZV-E10 as my secondary camera. I'm new to photography and videography, although I have taken great pictures in the past using SLR cameras and early digital cameras. Now, I bought these cameras specifically for indoor and outdoor video blogging and interviews. Could you please advise me on how to seamlessly combine videos and audios from both cameras without any issues? Which software would be perfect for this task and user-friendly as well? Thanks in advance!
I'll be having this same setup soon! Looking forward to hearing what he has to say about this.
@@realarkeli, Please let me know when you set it up. I wish there is an option to combine videos and record both under one software so that I can see both videos in two different windows but under one software and then I pick and choose the visual, but the underlying audio will go seamlessly
Congrats on the purchase! Those are two solid cameras - I'm in the process of making videos about shooting weddings, interviews, talking heads, etc - Im working on the wedding one right now, but will work on the interview video next! Anything you'd like to know in particular? I'll include combining the video from both cameras and working with audio. I will also include how to edit the videos. Anything else you'd be interested in knowing? I can try to work it into the next videos
Congrats on the cameras! I have a few videos on the way that I'm working on now - but will be making a "How to film Interviews" video within the next few weeks/month. Anything you'd like to know in particular? I can try to include it in the next video.
@@keith-knittel Hi Kieth! As I mentioned, I'm new to photography and video. First of all, thanks for your informative videos. Please continue to post more as they will greatly help people like me who are venturing into this field. I work in IT but have a strong passion for professional photography and would love to learn more.
I have a particular interest in capturing amazing indoor interviews and outdoor professional-grade videos. Now, it's just a passion, but I hope to improve and make it a professional appeal
Regarding video and audio mixing, I have a few questions:
1. Which software is easy and quick to combine and edit two videos and audios from different cameras?
2. When shooting, do you record audio separately or connect it to each camera? Or does one camera capture the audio while the other captures the video?
3. When using two microphones, such as one clipped on the subject and the other being a shotgun microphone, how do you ensure there is no echo? For example, if one microphone is attached to the subject's shirt on the chest and the other is mounted on one of the cameras, there is a chance of echo. How do you overcome this issue?
4. Since you use two cameras placed at different angles, how do you mix the sounds together without any syncing problems? I will be using two cameras and two microphones - a DJI microphone attached to the subject's shirt (on the chest) and a Rode shotgun microphone on one of the cameras. How can I properly sync the videos and audios from these two different cameras and microphones?
Thank you in advance for your guidance!
love the smooth of you videos what are your settings ?
Thank you! What settings are you referring to? I shoot at the 180 degree shutter, S-log 3 with a 1/8 mist filter
@@keith-knittel Thanks, I mean XAVC-x ? fps ?, ISO, 10bit 2:2:x ? and what lenses are you using?
BTW how do you recomend to export for youtube or reels / tiktok (settings)
Thank you very much for your answer, love your videos
I wish Lumix had an APSC cine camera
Not really familiar with lumix cameras, I need to check them out
Another Ohioan turned New Yorker, I see you bro! My girl and I are up in Harlem, where do you stay?
Likely going to be buying this based on price point. My heart was sold on the Sony A7IV for a year now, and I just found out about the FX30. You look pretty established with your gear, as someone who is looking to make short films & long-form RUclips content, would you recommend the FX30 or Sony A7IV?
For context, I won't have access to studio lighting for some time and will be working to make videos in natural light whenever possible.
Either way, my fingers are crossed for a nice Black Friday deal!
Yes A7IV have a crop but it’s from full frame so it will be the same equivalent as the FX30 with no crop. I’m not sure why this camera compare a lot with full frame since it’s a APS-C camera? It should be compared with A6000-series in my opinion.
I currently shoot on a sonya6600 but I have been eyeing the fx30. At first I wanted to go Sony a7siii but I like the squares look of the fx30 since it doesn’t have a viewfinder and I focus on video
Thanks for the video...
My gripe about the fx30 is all that crop on a apsc sensor.
Lens FF crop, ibis crop, 4k crop, lens breathing crop, post stabilization crop...
You're left with a sensor size as small as a pinky hahaha
Yeah, I'm definitely choosing wider lenses that I'm used to shooting with to get around all of the crops, but it comes with the territory I suppose
Torn between my bmpcc 6K pro … it’s a lot of work I’m super use to my a7iii and looking to go beyond that and it’s liking me working between the black magic and Sony. Want a fx3 but price range of fx30 is so great. … what do you consider? I have tons of content on my channel. I think this will be a better suit but how do you feel?
in the same boat let me know what you end up choosing
Choose the right tool for the job. If autofocus is your jam and like built in stabilization, the BM is not your jam. If you like a more natural cinema grade color, going to make the effort to stabilize the camera, don't mind manual focusing, and like cinema tools, and built in ND filter then BMCC maybe your jam. I have used both bigger brothers, the URSA and the Sony fs5/fx6 and I'd shoot with the URSA hands down for most projects.
i like your studio setup and ligtning , why dont you show us your studio tour
I plan on doing a lighting breakdown of my main talking head setup! It's on my todo list, anything you'd like to see in particular?
Any thoughts on Blackmagic 4k as being relative ?
I have not compared the blackmagic 4k to the fx30, but going to try to pick up a pyxis in the next few months to try out. Will try to get a bmpcc 4k to try out
@@keith-knittel Thank you🙏
So if you load a lut and it’s baked in to the display, do you not need to worry about monitoring the zebra lines or gamma assist? Do you just load it and shoot?
I still use zebras and the histogram or false color on a monitor, it just makes it easier to see what youre shooting. Would still use zebras
@@keith-knittel thanks
Would for vlogging like you are doing here ZVE1 be better?
Not much of a vlogger, but the ZVE1 is full frame, so comparing that to the FX30, you'll need to have some wider lenses on the FX30 to vlog with this. I think the ZVE1 has some more "content creator"-focused features that may be helpful for vlogging. Sorry I'm not much of a help here, I've never used the ZVE1
fx 30 upgrading to 2.0 reads lexar sd 128gb 270mb/s 1800x class 10 uhs-ii v60 and sd uhs-ii 128gb v60: write speed up to 130mb/s and read speed 250mb/s or sdxc prograde v60 uhs- the 128gb ?
I use an a Sony FX30 on my channel and I have not been able to set it up properly to the best settings for the best quality! Any advice ?
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I wish you would have talked about resolution a little bit. Codecs, bit rates, supported frame rates etc are the most important features of a camera.
I'd love to make a dedicated video going over that! I've included them in videos in the past but after a few people who said they were boring, I left them out. I think making a dedicated video going over the recording options, then which ones I use for what would be an interesting video. Anything in particular you'd like to know? Thanks for the feedback!
Just google them lol
Hey brother ❤I just bought the fx30, I’m not a photographer just for video purpose, now I’m kinda regretting that for a savings of few hundred dollars I missed out on a full frame sony camera? I kind of worried if fx30 is future proof as of today
If you consider the savings on the APSC glass though going FF is quite a bit more expensive
Would you recommend this over the black magic 6k?
It depends on what you want to do, for most cases the sony fx30 is a better option, the bmpcc 6k is more like a cinema camera and if you are not interested in learning how to color grade and try to take advantage of BRAW , I think the FX30 is a better option unless you are planning to do only short films or music videos on a set. Just my opinion, I'm not an expert
PD: I have a bmpcc 6k
I'd agree. The FX30 can be setup to shoot Sony's rec709, or SCinetone which is essentially a finished "look", great for fast turnaround and minimal post production. XAVCS and XAVCHS are pretty good too for most things, just keep it all in 10-bit color. Also if I'm not mistaken the Blackmagic is an MFT sensor, which is smaller than APSC, hardly a deal breaker but you would need to take that into consideration particularly if you want really wide angles, they will be a little easier to achieve with slightly less of a crop.
@@snaprifice the bmpcc 4k is a mft sensor, the bmpcc 6k is a super 35 sensor, it is like a aps-c sensor
@@Quinox2 ahhh thanks! 😝 I guess I should have looked up the specs.
if you don‘t want a bulky camera and want to shoot with compact autofocus camera with good lowbligjt sony cameras are good, but the image of bmpcc‘s are very good, I have the 4k and the og but I feel like it‘s too heavy and annoying for longer shootings when I have to stand around and pull focus all the time, now I wish I had a sony, also bc of the field of view, but I don‘t regret buying the bmd cameras
So sound you get the FX30 or the sony A7S3?
Tough question to answer without knowing more! What are you filming and whats your budget? Maybe I should make a video comparing the FX3 to the FX30
I wonder if this camera is good for action. Like boxing!
As long as you're not doing whip pans constantly, I haven't been able to be put off by the rolling shutter on this camera. Just depends on how much you're moving the camera around and how fast the action is when you're filming boxing. I'll try to film some boxing and action for a future video!
Lol when u start comparing it with Sony full frames, all with the new sensor.
But seriously, in the APS-C kingdom, this is a very good video camera, yes? Am thinking of marrying this with the Tamron 17-70 f2.8.... Hmmmm...
Kinda tired of hearing that fx30 has "bad low light capabilities" yeah mabybe if youre going run&gun and not filming a professional video with lighting, gaffers, dp ect its kinda hard, but it ALL call be solved and saved with the power of davinci's noise reduction tool, its STUPID good, for real.
I don't mean to say it's not usable in low light, but when comparing it to full frame Sony cameras, you'll be able to tell a difference in low light. Matching the cameras can be difficult if using the higher base ISOs for each camera, but its still usable. Don't mean to be all doom and gloom, but want to make sure I mention the potential downsides to products I'm talking about too
In any ways i was trying to undermine your work or this review, but i often see that people are very influenceable when it comes to "what to or not to" buy and they also have to understand that, if they have only certain amount of money to invest and their not professionals yet, something like "grainy low light footage" isnt a deal breaker when you have the possibilitie to change it in post.
Of course if i had the money i wouldnt even buy my fx30, i would go ahead and buy an fx6 😂@@keith-knittel
Yes finally someone who gets it! If you're a paid professional, do folks not show up with some sort of lighting? At the end of the day, garbage in equals garbage out.
Optical Image Stabilization Missing Sir. Whats your point about this? its Love or Hate?
For optical image stabilization, you'll need a compatible lens for that. Like the full frame 24-105 (the only optical steady shot lens I have). Without an OSS lens, you still have access to active stabilization on the FX30 though.
@@keith-knittel Thanks Sir. God bless you.
Honestly it sounds like you didn’t need to purchase the camera in the first place.
This is a fantastic entry point to the Sony cinema line, or a great b or c camera for other Sony cameras. No such thing as a perfect camera, just knowing how to work around the limitations is important
So wouldn’t these failings be resolved with a Ninja V shooting ProRes RAW over HDMI? Yes, it’s another $700 but we are talking about gear that competing with $10K cameras?
I’m looking at this for in studio shooting vs S7iii and keeping it under $3K
Recording Prores RAW wont help with the low light performance or the rolling shutter, but filming in a studio - you can control the lighting. And the rolling shutter wouldn't be a big deal unless youre whipping the camera around. Buy faster and wider glass to get around the crop, and the FX30 would be a good studio camera! If you're looking at an A7SIII and want to keep it under 3k, make sure youre factoring in glass and storage as well
Ended up buying the Sony Alpha 1 (because of the Low light and ability to Record 8K internal to 4K Ninja per Gerald Undone… and I could put it on my Dell account and pay it off over the next 12 months) and, G Master glass… that was the main reason I first bought into the Nikon… big investment in Nikkor glass and I mostly shot manually on my Rhino slider…
@@TheGeoDaddy From the FX30 to the A1, thats quite the jump! You'll have a great experience with that camera!
Yeah, it really came down to my application (shooting Theatre under studio (low) lighting and getting the best color science and pixels to tweak in post… and I was able to put it on my Dell account and pay-off in a year… so “affordable”
@@keith-knittel Storage? I'm fairly new to this, what are you referring to as storage being a consideration.
soooo you're saying get a Lumix S5ii instead
I havent used an S5II yet, would love to compare them but don't have one
Great video man! I have this as my B camera (a7iv as A cam). Have you noticed this fx30 seems to drain batteries super quick? Any settings that you know of that may help reduce that?
Huh. I find my A7S3 chews through batteries quicker than my FX30, I attribute that to the sensor size and viewfinder, but I might have left some of the wireless stuff on that isn't on in my FX30, lol, I haven't looked. If you're not using much of the wifi/Bluetooth stuff, turn it all off. Also I would imagine optical steady shot/power zoom lens stuff would consume more than lenses without. Other than that I'm not sure. I don't think I have any lenses that have OSS or power zoom so I wouldn't be able to say if that has a noticeable effect.
Depends on what you're filming too - higher frame rates can drain the batteries faster. I havent dont a side by side test, but I've been happy with the FX30 battery life so far. I do use V-mounts on longer shoots though, so maybe that has something to do with it
Just wondering: why not the Fx30 as A and the a7iv as B?
@@makybeats i have more flexibility with the a7iv being full frame i can shoot wide or tight with the same lens
Is the fx30 better in low light than the normal a7iii?
That’s a good questions. Probably not
No
phantom luts ftw!!!!
Theyre great but stylized for sure! I'm using them for a project right now and love the Vision Teal look. I'm a sucker for vintage looks though
@@keith-knittel they work really well for someone like me. I'm just a mechanic trying to make things look a little nicer. A lot of times I can throw on a neutral lut and we ball
@@TheRUclipsMechanic The Arri neutral is a great look!
Didn't understand a lot as I am not a photographer. But you have the most detailed information about this camera in RUclips.
P.S. Thank you. 🙏
I appreciate that!
This seems like an AI video. Maybe it’s the guy talking from a teleprompter but man it seems so robotic.
Haha dang!! I use a teleprompter with bullet points for what I'm going to say - if I don't, I'll talk about one thing for 10 minutes😜
It sucks!! The camera, not your video. Sony FX 30 is not a real "cinema camera", it is a vlogging camera with video log capabilities. Any true, cinema camera gives you raw data from the sensor anytime, on camera and externally. Low light capability with usable footage is NOT better than Blackmagic Design Pocket series 4K or 6K. Ha!
Get zv e1, problem fix..
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This video feels sooooo scripted. Where are the real videos where people sound like real people.
I definitely make bullet points to stay on track - this 8-minute video would turn into 45 minutes of rambling if I didn't
@@keith-knittel trust me I understand but we are just in a time where everyone is sounding like robots I’m trying to find someone who is organic. It’s still relevant and Good content.
Between the FX30 and the A7IV, mainly for videos... Which one do you prefer picking up more often? I can't decide between these two 🥲
For video only, I'd pick the FX30 - easier tools for filming in LOG for the most dynamic range, Cine EI and best of all, can shoot 4k 120 if you need it, it doesnt over heat BUT it struggles at shooting photos. If you need to shoot photos, don't shoot LOG (or don't mind exposing with zebra stripes) and don't shoot 4K 60 for long periods of time, the A7 IV is a fantastic camera. Tough choice honestly
@@keith-knittel Thanks for the answer!! That's what I've been thinking... In picking up the FX30. But then I think "rolling shutter in A7iv in crop mode is better... 1080p in A7IV is also better... what do I dooo?" haha
I guess I'm gonna wait on that A6700 or the A7CII to see what they'll come up with 😂😂