Andre Iguodala on How Lessons from Allen Iverson Changed His Entire Perspective on NBA Teams & Media
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- Allen Iverson was a generational icon in the NBA, and being up close for that experience was something both Carmelo Anthony and Andre Iguodala will never forget. #alleniverson #carmeloanthony #andreiguodala
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Talk about coming full circle, this explains everything.
The words I was gonna use verbatim.
@@disheemthomas4553 Fasho
Man facts
That brings light to the "practice" clip
Totally off base. That clip is always played completely out of context. Iverson missed practice because he went to a funeral and went off on a rant because he was upset about the loss of his friend.
Love how iggy shutting up you nba nerds who never blame front offices for how most superstars are unfairly perceived.
@S-Tierlguess facts hearing the 76ers never had a training facility was wild smh and people made Allen Iverson the Scapegoat when Iverson was sent up to fail
lol. Real question, what is an nba nerd? Define that one for me. Cause what you’re describing just sounds like a regular fan.
@@RUclipscensoredme- a casual that never played Basketball
@@malikwilson7387 so a regular fan then. lol. I feel it.
@@malikwilson7387I don't get how people can enjoy watching basketball without having played lol, even just pickup hoops
Iggy was nice af in Philly. That’s when he was really in his bag
But he better as a role player
He was solid in Denver too.
@@JQUE94yeah I was gonna say idk he was in his BAG them Denver days
@@LowKey-lh7on He was brotha, he took a lesser role in GS while still having prime years left
@@collider12 Iggy would have been a solid #2 piece at the least if Philly would have built right. He was still putting up numbers in Denver when he left philly.
This is crazy. What if A.I played for a team that wanted to win from the beginning
They didn’t want him to win. “Image didn’t fit”.
That’s exactly what I always thought. He was blackballed from the jump
@@ChuckTay23 Absolute nonsense. The 76ers during the Iverson years suffered the same fate as Embiid's teams today. The team made many terrible draft choices and therefore had to fill out the roster with higher priced vets who pushed the spending up against the salary cap without providing enough talent. In three consecutive years after Iverson's rookie season Philly did the following - picked Van Horne instead of McGrady, picked Hughes instead of Nowitzki or Pierce, picked MacCulloch instead of Ginobli. You can't win titles if you can't draft. Igoudala had the good fortune of playing on a team with three future HOFers who were all being paid much less than they were worth because they were on cheap contracts early in their careers after being drafted. Most people would have never heard of Iggy if the Warriors had not drafted well.
@@TrevorEMayo sounds like the front office doesn't want to win.😂
Fast forward to the Ben Simmons era, they still weren’t trying to win. Now Philly is reaping that bad karma from trusting the process. Now they have the players to be in contention and can’t. I doubt Philly will get anywhere with Paul George and I love me some PG.
As Philly fan ,I always felt sixers was always to cheap to win championships, this confirms it
It's basically all PA teams. I'm from PA. ✌️🏾💪🏾
@@dvdndsWillnot the Eagles they got their own Facilities yo this is Wild the 76ers didn't have their own training facilities and people blame Allen Iverson when he carried them the front office did nothing for him
Now the Sixers have facilities - but back then it was bad.
Facts . Well said.
Shame on the organization/owners back then. Seems like they didn't care about the players. Was it not a standard to AT LEAST have a training facility?
Pennsylvania College of Osteopathic Medicine (PCOM) on City line Ave was the practice facility before the Sixers FINALLY got the spot in Camden NJ on the waterfront of the river. Damn im old...smh 😂
ownership ain't SHIT for THAT...these niccas is professionals B!!!! Get em right.
I was interviewing for a Grad program at PCOM - and when I was there I met Iggy as he was practicing. They took us in and he just said hi real quick. It was cool.
That gym is nowhere near the arena in South Philly. A.I. is the reason that TGI Fridays nearby was popular.
Your spot on my brother
Actually it's City Avenue.
Meros depth of knowledge is actually impressive 🔥
I’m still surprised Melo and iverson didn’t achieve more together
George Karl
George Karl and only a year and half together. No time to develop. The league was already undergoing operation blackball AI
Lmao I came here to say exactly this. Karl was dry comedy.
George Karl, but .... really Kobe Bryant and the Lakers. If it wasnt for the Lakers they would've won a ring for sure.
The west was tough. You had spurs, lakers, mavs, suns, who were either winning the west or competing every year. Before the suns and mavs it was kings and Portland.
Even Charles Barkley says he thought his name was "Charles Barkley you MF" while playing in Philly
Rite
Si ca
...and now, y'all gotta BRING A.I. on the scene to get more perspective. #Please
Was just about to post this comment! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Yeah A.I. was unique at only 6'0 ft 165 lbs or so he dominated the league a scoring machine. He used his speed, quick handles and legendary cross over to get by tall defenders. Because his small frame he took a beating but it never slowed him down.
That’s wa such an impactful conversation. The break down of how winning and “practice” was truly viewed by the organization. And then how it cascaded to AI. It makes perfect sense.
Of all the great players to never win a chip, Iverson did quite a bit with the least amount of offence surrounding him. Melo was the only other superstar caliber player he ever played with. And I don’t think Iverson played with ANY all stars in their prime. He’s the smallest lethal weapon in the history of the game. Until a few years ago, I think he was top 3 all time in career scoring average. He’s truly 1 of 1.
Bubba Chuck pound for pound greatest player I ever seen with my two eyes to play like that against trees night in night out only thing close was D Rose
💯💯
@@kiingphresh9328 facts 😂
Every,single,game.
Hearing this is sounds just right for a Paul George fizzle out if he signs with Philly.
That's how you know AI still has hella love for Philly. I'm 33 and before this clip I never knew this information. AI could've stopped that whole we talking about practice s#it right then and there with this really.
1:48 well said 😂 TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER been spoken 💯
The Wiz around that time just got a practice facility when the MCI Center opened. Before that they practiced at Bowie State. They did not start feeding players until a few years later after the move.
Can we legit have melo and AI on the podcast together one day?
WOW thanks for speaking those facts guys. Imagine being held liable for not practicing and they don’t even have a court for you. Just like how the Knicks practice court was in Westchesyer hahaha that’s crazy.
Why don't you go and do some research on the practice situation instead of taking the words of these podcasters begging for clicks? Iverson missed the famous practice because he went to a funeral. In fact he lived closer to the practice facility than almost everyone else on the team.
@@TrevorEMayodude tone it down. Everybody knows the actual AI story. Doesn’t take away from the fact that it is a massive difference being able to just go to your arena and practice there. Have some respect for Iggy and Melo, these two have never lacked when it comes to getting views.
Wilt chamberlain the most dominant player ever with all his ridiculous stats only won 2 times in a era where the Celtics were the most successful organization. Idc how good one player is. He’s not winning a title until his franchise gets it together as well
Its criminal how early they broke up that Nuggets team smh
Dre is dressed Fly as Jeff Goldblum 👌
🤯🤯 Full circle moment
Like folks hear the story, but they still dont get what they are saying.
Think about how much time Kobie spent in the practice facility to perfect his game. At all kinds of hours of the night and days of week.
Think about how much Curry says he shots in the practice facility on his shot. He lives in the facility.
Now take all that away from both of those players...does their game evolve as much as it did with that type of access.
Melo told you that once AI got access to an actual facility just for themselves, AI shooting % went up.
Its absolutely crazy that he took a team to the NBA finals, and they couldn't really get extra work in.
It's amazing that he had the career he did when not actually having the resources the other great players had.
All of that is totally ridiculous. Iverson's shooting percentage went up because in Denver he was actually playing with other players the opponents had to guard. His percentages were down in Philly because for most of his time there he was playing with no one who could create their own shot (Iggy was one of those offensively deficient players), and so AI forced shots. A lot of bad shots.
That superstar mindset is crazy. Like you HAVE to be a ball hog. If I don’t get up these points, I’m the reason we lost even if I’m playing well.
Cause this what the fans will say when you lose
Ppl say AI fell off when he averaged 27 on the nuggets but he was sharing the offense with Melo and the team, and he was more efficient. So it’s true.
Facts, I'd argue a personality forms a superstar over their talent, you can do every trick in the book but it doesn't matter if you don't have the tenacity and confidence to impose what you can do
“The gym was booked” is wild 🤬🤔
#FACTS
Things have changed since then. Josh Harris bought the Sixers, built a practice facility in Camden. When the Sixers were under Ed Snider/Comcast Spectactor they were second to the Flyers.
When Melo said, "Coppy coup over here", I felt that.
My brother works where the sixers use to practice. I remember I would come up at lunch time to play half court on one end of the floor while a few of the players would get shots up on the other end of the floor or they would show up and have to wait for us to get off the floor to practice lol
Yooo not too much on Dayton, OH! Our NBA team is coming soon 😂😂😂
The fact that Philly couldn't practice at a facility is ludicrous
8:00 Iverson averaged 26.4 his only full year in Denver. In terms of PPG he had 7 seasons with higher numbers…
Think he meant as far as FG %. I wanted to look into it an sure enough he shot hella better in Denver than in Philly
@@ciinco3182 it was under Larry brown.. even in his rookie year Ai had a better % than those 7 years with brown who forced him into shooting 30 times a night
@@GetBackRy3x for sure you right bout that I’m big on AI I honestly think they should of played more through him in Denver especially with him having higher percentages across the board
@@ciinco3182yeah but then you got dumb shit like George Karl taking him out the game after him dropping an efficient 51. Just traded one poorly offensive coach for an awful one.
That plus Denver’s defense couldn’t cover Iverson’s weakness on d like Philly could, even if that’s all they could do.
@@GetBackRy3x facts. Yeah def not gonna win nothing if your best players can’t stand the coach.
Ai and ai combo was something to watch
From philly... he confirmed what we all say...🤦🏾♂️cheap mfs...i aint paying no more parking tickets..
I m from in Philly that’s crazy and true to the day they still not about winning just talking it had Butler had Harden came and went not a committed organization
Man i remember he got drafted and people started calling Andre “AI”. I used to get sooo mad when people called him that. “Man he ain’t the real AI!!” lol crazy how iggys career turned out … much respect now lol but back then i wasn’t goin for it lol
I am a Virginia guy and he was a better football player than basketball player. And yes bettee than Michael Vick. From the same area.
Andre is 100% right. AI got flamed by the media towards the end, no matter what he did. Took 30 shots while being inefficient and lost? Hell would break loose
I always say sometimes no matter what higher power you believe in, some people just have that magic touch.
Ai someone who would’ve been great in whatever he chose, similar to a Chris brown where it’s like damn what can’t bro do. Shit he crazy but also be cool when you see it up close.
Iguadala is a first ballot hall of famer...😮🙏🏾
Not even close
@@jaranameer28824 time champ 1 finals mvp
@@noahisuku5338 Olympic gold medals
@@noahisuku5338 several all defensive teams
@@noahisuku5338 6th man award
We have a nice practice facility now
The ownership of the sixers at that time, comcast spectacor/ed snyder also owned the flyers. The flyers were priority.
The Sixers practice facility predicament was the product of the ownership situation. Up until the mid 90s the Flyers and the Sixers were separately owned. Then a massive deal was struck where Comcast bought both clubs and placed the Flyers owner in charge of both franchises. The Sixers were always a lower priority for the ex-Flyers owner who was now in charge. The basketball team did not get it's own practice facility till new owners bought the Sixers from Comcast.
Damn, being a young Sixers fan at the time, I never realized that they didn't have access to the practice facility like that. That's crazy. I wonder if Croche was still there.
Pat Croce did not control the money. Ed Snider controlled the money for the Sixers and the Flyers who were both owned by Comcast. The Sixers were Ed's red-headed stepchildren. The Flyers were his pride and joy. Snider didn't begin to pay attention to the Sixers until Croce quit after not being given Snider's job. By that time Iverson's career in Philly was almost over.
Probably why they canned him behind the scenes because he was trying to build a championship caliber organization and they was being Cheap
He said it’s not like it’s Dayton Ohio I’m from Dayton Ohio lol damn
All this time later for the truth to come out ⚖️⚖️⚖️
Wow, nobody ever looked at it this way..
If the sixers had an owner like Jeffery Laurie they could’ve been more than what they were. The way he invested in his team lead to a championship and a contender the other owners at the time weren’t doing that 😊
Tell Dj envy go back to the breakfast club and Andre was hella offended when you called him a square lmao he knew what you really meant by that
Aye Mero I fucks wit you big dawg relax on Dayton tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This why AI was like "practice, not the game but practice. We talking about practice".... Man we don't even have a practice facility. What she we talking about. Practice where?
I seen Iggy play in a Pro Am in Chicago, Antoine Walker had like 40 in the first half on him
What year?
Yup. The Sixers Franchise did not make winning a primary! Especially when they had a wide open opportunity to get TMac…. They have a gym to practice now, but it’s all the way in Wilmington,DE 😂
Practice?..with no practice facility of your own,Iverson coulda spoke on that
Is that why the team was at buddy crib this year
This confirms it AI n them were held BACK by an UNPROFESSIONAL Front Office 💯
Not having the right facilities could be how he developed the habit of not practicing as much.
The Atlanta Hawks is one of those teams that is NOT trying to win.
Every time they have a team to do real well (Conference Finals, Best Record in Division, Etc.) they break up the team
Traded Dominique when they had the best record in the East...Broke up the 2015 team after going to the Conference Finals and Traded their Best Shooter that off-season to the same Cavs that beat them in the Conference Finals...And made major changes after the 1985 season winning the Division
Wow Iverson made it to the finals really playing for the Commonwealth plantation #RaymondLewis
This is what people don't understand - that some teams don't care about winning only about making money. Also, some teams have so many advantages that it is not even fair at times from practice to coaching and to healthcare - meaning your medical staff - etc. Could you imagine from they are saying to AI and Lebron making it to the finals against franchises like the Lakers and the Spurs lol
Igoudala is lying his ass off about Philly not trying to win. Philly was incompetent yes, but they did not start to lose on purpose till he left. Management incompetence led to the team being filled with high priced players who had little left in the tank during much both Iverson's and Igoudala's years.
more then any of that, larry brown knew paul pierce was a better player then hughes but said he drafted hughes because of a promise
No practice gym is INSANE
Well, somebody's lying here because Dahntay Jones was on that team too and he said really didn't practice and his stories was so specific that I find him to be more credible.
They are friends with AI and don't want to incur his wrath. You really have to listen to some of the ex players with a grain of salt or maybe a shovel full.
@@boomshakalaka8567 yeah but the difference is all dahntay jones does is say AI was lazy so it makes him sound less credible, like he got something personal on him. Like damn dawg you don’t got nothing positive to speak on?
Chill the Sixers were booking gyms like studio time smh 🤦🏾♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wish Detroit would have drafted Melo! We would have more than one championship! Joey D hurt us with his draft picks. He would have been more of a team player than a one on one player.
Melo can’t block Reggie Miller like Tayshaun Primce did.
@@DwellsSouthern True but we would have had both of them
@@DwellsSouthernhe can score better than melo
I thought this man asked them about their first impressions of A.I. as a hooper and they bash the Sixers org 🤔 what am I missing here?
They are sidestepping the question because if they said what they really thought AI would be pissed.
why iggy dressed like clark kent lol
Philly was slacking big time. lol
His years in Denver were far from best years with respect to averages.
It's his second career best FG % at 45.8... said most efficient.
Young dudes online talking bout curry better than Iverson y'all dudes must be 10.😮😮😮
I'm 52 years old... NBA fan... It's arguable between Steph Curry and Allen Iverson... Either or... Steph Curry's resume is clearly better than Allen Iverson
@@dantemackey7471 curry team way better than Philadelphia
@@grindtodayenjoytomorrow4644 Allen Iverson played with Jerry Stackhouse... Chris Webber... Carmelo Anthony... Dikembe Mutumbo... Larry Hughes... Lou Williams Andre Iguadala...among others... So he's played with some All Stars... For whatever reason, just no championship.
That’s why he hated practice
Can people now see how Barkley's prime was wasted on the 76ers and why he never won a ring? Harold Katz was the owner then who traded Moses Malone the year after they won a ring and settled into mediocrity...
That trade was Matty Goukas's idea not Harold's.
@@TrevorEMayo Matt Goukas was a coach, for a short time with the Sixers & not a G.M. but I suppose he allegedly forced the owner to trade Malone...SMH
A Rookie Lemon Pepper Lou Got Ice and Water Poured On Him By A.I. & C-Webb That Was In Philly At A Practice Gym
A yo Iggy watch it with that Philly slander you know how we coming 😂😂😂😂
Is he wrong tho? Mfs dont even own their stadium
Our city especially the 76ers front office has always been on some bs
@@GetBackRy3x naw right is right but still it’s just a warning moving forward 😂 Philly fans move a little different with our teams but we love Iggy
@@Rahim.ali80 straight BS facts
Coming where ? To Dreamland ? 😂😂
Practice?
We are not happy because we have no championship since...
Practice?!!
You can’t develop a jumper with no gym! They failed AI fr as a franchise straight up
Smh it was 20 years ago, Philly isn’t for everyone. Iggy was never a true number 1
Whatever dude name is co-hosting is not thorough in his approach.
Andre had 2 hall of fame careers.....
You guys were garbage though. Undisciplined iverson wasted his game he could of been the greatest
*Man let’s stop the cap. Allen was incredible! He was who he was. Even with a state of the art practice facility Allen was still gonna be at Fridays & The Piccadilly late night. Andre was a good role player at best. Never was gonna be a star. Stop fraudin’.*
So niggas cant eat at fridays now or some? God damn! 😂
Imagine a few millionaires talking about they couldn’t find a gym. This is silly
Imagine a billionaire owner not buying a practice gym for his NBA team. Do you see how ridiculous the thought of that is?
This other dude can't even talk normal, read a book dude
I always hated Philly Sixers & I still do to this day.