Porsche 996 C4 Drop Link Install

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @wilmh9586
    @wilmh9586 6 лет назад +1

    After watching the video again im convinced its the tuning fork Rick...it drove me nuts until i found it on mine,and after replacing almost everything down there i found what the problem was,only after replacing it did i know it was that part to blame,so hard to diagnose...the rattle/chattering never happend when bushes were cold only after a short drive and then the god damn rattle was there ,,not any more ,changed the backs 2 aswell because same shit was happening back there too.

  • @jrgenfriborg3508
    @jrgenfriborg3508 4 года назад

    Hi Rick. Thanks for your reply. Something in life can suk all energi out of the fun things to do, but I am sure you get there. God luck.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  4 года назад

      That my friend, should be on a T shirt. :) Thank you very much.

  • @jackielo2898
    @jackielo2898 4 года назад

    Hi Rick, thank you for your video ! I have a very similar clunking noise like yours but perhaps harder and sharper. It is seemingly from the suspension lot at the rear in low speed on bumpy roads. Mine is a 996 98 C2 with 80k. My local garage advised me to look at the top mounts but I just took the opportunity to have upgraded them to new Koni yellow and springs, but noise persists. Then I changed 4 coffin arms, noise did not go away...then I changed all 4 trailing arms and 2 rear toe arms, it is still there. With the kind of sport koni and lowered spring, the noise got even worse.
    I have not done the drop links yet as I cannot believe that hard/sharp clunking noise is from there (proven by your approach), but may as well give it a shot. I checked mine though, they seem to be in good shape and not a lot of play. The tie rods do feel decent and quiet when turning so in my case I have not touched that part yet. My next item on the list would most probably the four upper arms at the rear (for the sake of complete set of arms) But having said that they are not ball joints, I really doubt those possibly worn rubble rings would cause such heavy noise. But other than those already changed what else could play in to that, ahhh let alone the cost, totally unprepared for that. But the issue remains, very frustrating really.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  4 года назад

      Sorry to hear you are your noise persists after all of the time, effort and money. I wish I had a suggestion as to where to go next, but so far the rear of my car has been quiet. Did you happen to change out the engine mounts? They are pretty cheap and a quick job as well. Mine were completely trashed when I got my car with 108,000 on the clock. I am still having my noise from the front and have not really investigated further of late. Life has been busy and the car still drives and handles wonderfully....but, I need to get to it here soon. I am still planning on doing the upper and lower control arms next and see what happens. Best of luck to you and please let m know if you get it figured out. Cheers.

    • @jackielo2898
      @jackielo2898 4 года назад

      Hi Rick, yeah I had the 2 back engine mounts changed about 15k ago, due to the uncomfortable vibration. The vibration was clearly half improved because I did not change the gearbox mount on the other end, so it’s another bit of work in pending. As far as the clucking noise goes, changing the two back engine mounts made no difference whatsoever. But I will be surprised if that heavy clunking noise was from the gearbox mount, it would be like no rubber left? Well, never say never, I will get to that soon since I am running out of other things to look at ))
      For the front end, mine did make a bit of noise too. But the noise has since either gone away or almost unnoticeable after replacing the coffin and trailing arms, the steering feels a joy to turn and accurate. That part of monies was well worth spending respectively whether it was contributing part of the noise.
      I am gonna next do the front and back drop links, then 4x rear upper arms, then gearbox mount, in the hopefully near future depending upon my progress in saving!! Will definitely keep you updated; best of luck to your front end noise too ))

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  4 года назад

      Thanks Jackie, I hope you get here sorted! If I come up with any possibilities I will let you know. Take care and have fun!

    • @jackielo2898
      @jackielo2898 4 года назад

      Hi Rick, after changing all the pricy hardwares. At the point of giving up, I just checked some easy bits while the rattling noise still presists. I noticed the underbody plastic covers were not all that tight. Some edges are actually knocking the underbody. I proceeded to try slotting a few rubber shims in some loose voids. Just test drive it and to my supprise the noise is somewhat halved. I didn't jack up the car today. but i would do something more thorough next time when i visit my friend's garage. It maybe a possible source of noise not to oversee.

  • @jayfree011
    @jayfree011 3 года назад +1

    Check your tie rod into steering rack. If you can grab arm amd move it even a tiny bit that is your culprit. You will likely hear it click back and forth.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  3 года назад

      Thank you Jason. I finally replaced the coffin arms, tuning forks and inner and outer tie rods on the front. Solved my noise problem thankfully. The noise stopped after I did the coffin arms and tuning forks. The tie rods seemed to be a bit warn as well. Cheers.ruclips.net/video/3JJUme0AUoI/видео.html

  • @mph5859
    @mph5859 6 лет назад +1

    Hi. Thanks for your consistent videos on the Porsche 996 life story.
    The impression I’m getting so far is that the list of problems and issues just don’t stop on the 996
    “even if you don’t drive the car too much”.
    To give you an idea, I have Mercedes C350 2008 with 156,000 miles on it. I drive like 30,000 to 35,000 miles a year and haven’t spent even 4000 dollars on my current vehicle.
    So whilst I’m considering replacing my Mercedes eight a. 996 (again a high mileage one), I’m getting more confused.
    Just some loud thinking.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Yes, they are reasonable to purchase, but you have to be ready to speed money on things when the come up. Many people buy them because they can be had for between 10 and 25,000 and forgot the cars are 15 years old and things will need to be addressed. Still love her though. :)

  • @christopherblack949
    @christopherblack949 6 лет назад

    Rick, I agree with a few on here. I think it's your lower control arm. Frannie's garage has a great video on how to replace them.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Thank you Christopher! I am thinking the same at this point.

  • @bigmacdaddy1234
    @bigmacdaddy1234 6 лет назад +1

    Hi Rick - did you replace the front or the rear drop links? In your video I see the oil filter at 3:49 so does that mean you changed out the rear ones? With that said my suggestion would be to get a spray lubricant and spray ONE area at a time and go for a test drive and see if the noise changes. This might allow you to find the culprit through process of elimination.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Hi brother, I did the fronts. I was looking at what you thought was the oil filter when I was under there and honestly I am not sure what that cylinder is. Thanks for the idea of spaying things and seeing if it helps. It almost sounds like a buddy panel or something else is just loose from the driver's seat, but the recording makes me think suspension for sure. Thanks again!

  • @kowkes
    @kowkes 5 лет назад

    Hey Rick I have the same sound and I'm planning on replacing both links front and rear. I hope that solves my issue and I don't have to delve further. I fear the the coffin arms might be my issue as well. Please keep us updated on your progress.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  5 лет назад +1

      Hi knowkes, changing the end links didn't help unfortunately nor did changing out the strut tower bushings. I am pretty sure I need to do the control arms next, both coffin and the others. The noise hasn't gotten any worse, but it is still there.

    • @kowkes
      @kowkes 5 лет назад

      @@AZdroptop well that sucks. I changed my front end links and my noise is all gone. I was going to change the rears as well but they look like a real ass ache, so I'm going to wait til summer. I wish you good luck and make sure to keep us updated.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  5 лет назад +1

      That's great to hear! When I was trying to find out what my culprit might be I did come across a number of threads where changing end links helped....unfortunately I am still on the hunt LOL. I'll get it ha ha. Thank you and good luck with the rears.

  • @27degrees
    @27degrees 6 лет назад

    A quick internet search brings to light that every last Porsche 996 owner on the planet eventually gets this problem. The fix seems to vary from one owner to the next. Good luck in getting it sorted.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Thank you Nick. It sure seems like it and both things that I have changed out sure sounded like sure things when reading about them. On to the next one. :)

  • @crkproductions5000
    @crkproductions5000 4 года назад +1

    I have the same noise. Have made the same changes and still have the noise. I too am interested in a solution.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  4 года назад

      I still have not really dug in as of yet. Pretty sure iy is the control arms, but I won't know for sure until I finally get in there.

  • @michelleqwilson
    @michelleqwilson 3 года назад +1

    Did you ever figure this out?

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  3 года назад +1

      Hi Michelle, yes I did...took quite awhile, but it turned out to be the control arms up front. Although I am not sure if it was the wishbone(tuning fork) or coffin arms since I replaced them both at the same time. I also did the inner and outer tie rods, but the noise went away after the control arm replacement. From all of the reading and watching I did trying to figure out the noise it sounds like it can be strut mounts, drop links, control arms, sway bar bushings and even a loose brake caliper...I had no success until I did the control arms.
      ruclips.net/video/8TU1m-MKq-g/видео.html

  • @camb565
    @camb565 4 года назад

    Hello Rick! I am having the same problem with my 2001 C4. Exactly the same sound. Im going to replace my sway bar bushings and drop links and see if that fixes it. If not I will try the control arms next. Please if you have any updates let me know.
    Thanks,
    Cam

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  4 года назад

      Good luck Cam, I still have not followed through on replacing the control arms as of yet...living with the noise still. I am convinced it is the control arms but life has been busy. Let me know how it goes with yours.

  • @peterphillips2744
    @peterphillips2744 6 лет назад

    Hello Rick. I had exactly same problem on my c2. I did same as you , the noise seemed to go when the car was wet underneath , I live in England so that’s quite a lot. I ended up going to my porsche shop and they said it’s the bushings on the front coffin arms. Just waiting for the repair. Hope this helps.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад +1

      Hi Peter, thank you very much for the reply Peter. I am thinking it is the coffin arms or the window control arms at this point...It seems to be a common problem with these 996's. I guess it is expected after 117,000 miles and 16 years. If you think about it would you let me know when the repair is done? Curious if it fixed the problem.

    • @peterphillips2744
      @peterphillips2744 6 лет назад

      Hello again Rick , doing the coffin arms on the front seems to have done the trick. Unfortunately the rears are next. Joys of older cars.

  • @PeterJUren
    @PeterJUren 6 лет назад +1

    Hi Rick, I'm surprised that your mechanic can't source the clunking noise. Maybe a Porsche dealer might be able to help. Cheers, Peter

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      They didn't do an extended test drive so all good. With that noise it would seem something obvious was in there causing trouble. I'll keep looking Cheers Peter.

  • @DeanoTXR53
    @DeanoTXR53 6 лет назад

    80% sure this is lower control arms. Which is a bummer because they're kinda pricey. Original front LCAs on my car only lasted 40k, pretty sure they're in need of a change again now.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Thank you very much for the input...I was thinking along the same lines...I imagine at 117K I am looking at replacing most of it. :)

  • @BobJones-ib4xh
    @BobJones-ib4xh 4 года назад

    I am noticing clunking on the rear of my 997. Almost as if the engine is bouncing around when going over bumpy roads. I never noticed or felt the clunking before and I am wondering if the rear suspension is shot or maybe replace the engine mounts and hope that fixes the problem. I am looking to maybe have the entire suspension re-done. Front and back.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  4 года назад

      Hi Bob, I think I am pretty much in the same boat with needing to replace the various suspension components. It might be worth starting with the engine mounts in your case as they are pretty inexpensive and a quick job if you like to do stuff yourself. I still have my slow speed clunking up front, but it does not affect steering or handling that I can tell? Best of luck!

    • @BobJones-ib4xh
      @BobJones-ib4xh 4 года назад

      @@AZdroptop My experience with front end clunking turned out to be warn bushing on the lower control arms. Those were easy to replace compared to the upper control arms. If you plan to replace the control arms do or have the upper and lower control arms done.
      I will be replacing the engine mounts first and see if that helps but I am thinking being that the car is 15 years old it will probably have to have a full suspension job,. Good luck and thanks for the reply.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  4 года назад

      Thank you Bob, I was leaning towards those being my problem as I have done the strut mounts and end links. Cheers.

  • @davemcguigan218
    @davemcguigan218 6 лет назад

    Hello Rick, sorry I love Porsches but have no idea what could be causing the noise. I'm sure someone will be able to find the problem. Sure wish our Crosstreks sounded like your 911!

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      ha ha. Thank you Dave. :) Me too, that would be fun for sure.

  • @rileypart1
    @rileypart1 6 лет назад +1

    I wish I can help you Rick but sadly I don’t have Porsche.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Thank you kind sir, no worries, I appreciate your watching. Cheers

  • @Aardvark49
    @Aardvark49 6 лет назад

    Think you'll have to look at front control arms or tie rods next. Since you've got a C4 the front CV joints could be in the mix; do you notice any noise when turning in either direction?

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Hi Vic thanks for the help. I had the front CV joints replaced awhile back, one had blown. :) I believe you are correct on the the control arms being next and unfortunately that's were it becomes more expensive. :) Cheers.

    • @jeffnelson8965
      @jeffnelson8965 6 лет назад

      Rick...did you search on Rennlist describing your issues? There always seems to be an answer on there. I have to replace my spoiler baffle and that is the only place someone had explanation of how to do it.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Hi Jeff, it is an awesome sight for sure. I have searched on there and they led me to the strut towers and drop links so far. Both of which needed to be replaced, but have not helped. Some other threads describe control arms which is where it starts to get more expensive. All good though I knew it would need some upgrades. Cheers and have a great trip.

    • @jeffnelson8965
      @jeffnelson8965 6 лет назад

      Well you know more about cars than I do, but I have a good local mechanic for these type of things. He doesn't work on Porsches but he is willing to help with non engine issues. I agree with you about repairs/upgrades - there are going to happen, but our cars are the most fun you can have with an investment and I view it as money that will return to me if I ever sell. I had a 997 turbo pull up beside me yesterday - it was so SWEET - (my next Porsche)

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Very cool, the turbo's are so nice. I am hoping for a 991 someday, but the prices will need to drop a lot before that happens. :)

  • @MrCaterhamr500
    @MrCaterhamr500 Год назад +1

    It’ll be your coffin arms, they’re more expensive and always left till last to replace. Stick poly bushes in to improve the cars ability to keep to geometry.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  Год назад

      Yep, you are correct. I ended up changing them out and noise disappeared.

  • @dono4598
    @dono4598 6 лет назад

    Are you sure its not the bushing on the sway bar? Sounds like it may have run dry, I would see if you can get some silicone ( not wd40 or any other oil) spray in there. Or maybe a steering control arm? But to me its sounds like a dry bushing, just my .02.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Don, thank you very much for the suggestion. I will try to spray the sway bar bushing and give it a drive. Cheers. I'll let you know what I find.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      I Don, just wanted to check back with you. I siliconed the sway bar bushings and lower control are bushings yesterday and took a good look around again to see if there was anything obvious I was missing. Hard to really tell, but all the bushings seem in ok shape. I did notice that if I pull on the tie rod and push in on the brake caliper I get a bit of what looks like rotational movement and a light cloning sound. I am not a mechanic so it may be normal?
      I drove the car after the silicone and the noise was still there last night. This a.m. I took the car to work and didn't hear it. I am hopeful, but I don't always hear it every drive. Thanks again for the advice.

    • @dono4598
      @dono4598 6 лет назад

      Fingers crossed, maybe after sitting overnight it penetrated enough. If it does go away I would get back in there and give it another squirt. Have a good one. Hey any fires going on in your area? We are about 2-3 miles from the "Holy" fire, the smoke and ash are getting pretty bad. Stay safe out there!

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Thanks Don, I am headed to cars and coffee in the morning so hopefully my noise is still gone. No fires here in AZ as of yet, but it is early and honestly we have had a pretty monsoon so far. Hopefully they get your fires under control soon. Thank you again for the help

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Update: Noise is still there. The search continues.

  • @jrgenfriborg3508
    @jrgenfriborg3508 4 года назад

    Hi Rick. Well did you fix it. Just bought a 996 my self.

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  4 года назад

      Congrats!!! I still have not fixed my suspension noise. Life has been busy, but I am in the process of starting to collect suspension parts to try and fix it. It seems it is probably my control arms, coffin and or wishbone, so I plan to replace both up front and see what happens. What year and style did you buy?

  • @rileypart1
    @rileypart1 6 лет назад

    I would wobbling noise

  • @jimmyucla
    @jimmyucla 4 года назад

    Did you find the culprit sir!?

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  4 года назад

      Hi, not as of yet officially. Pretty sure it is the control arms. Coffin and wishbone possibly. Still planning on doing both soon.

  • @wilmh9586
    @wilmh9586 6 лет назад

    Hi rick i know what it is 100% its the lower tuning forks or sometimes called lower control arms,not coffin arm but the trailing arm..very easy to replace..i had same problem on my boxster 986,,,its like a chatter rattle over uneven surfaces,,hard to diagnose while investigating but trust me thats your culprit 100%..the ball joint wears out and it rattles in its fixing,,hope it helps you out matey...part number 996.341.043.03 996.341.143.03

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Hi Michael, thank you very much for your insight! I was leaning towards changing those guys out next. Much appreciated. Did you end up doing the coffin arms as well? Cheers!

    • @wilmh9586
      @wilmh9586 6 лет назад

      Your welcome buddy..and yea i changed the coffin arms too..the rears were a complete night mare as the camber bolts had siezed ..should have been a 1.5 hour job but took 3 hours just to get that damn sucker out,,oh and wheel alignment is a BIG must after coffin arm change,specially the rears ,,my steering was off centre straight after changing them,,symptoms for coffin arm is a creaky old sofa noise,or old bed post creak opposed to knocking sound..hope it helps you Rick :)

    • @AZdroptop
      @AZdroptop  6 лет назад

      Super helpful Michael and can't thank you enough for taking the time to share your experience. Super cool. So far I just have noise up front so I am hoping to get away with just doing the fronts for now and save the backs for later. I figure with the age of the car and the miles it all needs to be done soon. Thanks again!