You mentioned the "pressure" of the input buttons. Do you mean that it is working well when dealing with a slight push for one function vs full push for another game function ? Best example I can think of would be ace combat shattered skies. The slight square push would bring up immediate radar vs full push would be the whole map / radar.
I got the defender for my PS3. It's incredible. I'm looking forward to the sixaxis version. Once that's out, my current defender will be my permanent PS2 controller. Though I will say the trigger sensitivity is way too high. Hopefully they'll release a firmware update to solve that issue.
I have to say the good reason to get the Defender is the issue of fake PlayStation controllers. It's nice to see other companies recreate the controller that has long been discontinued but they failed to make a controller that functions and lasts well. These controllers are reminiscent of the infamous third-party controllers from the 1990s and 2000s that are known for their poor build quality and performance much like the cheap no-name "gaming" keyboards/mice/headsets you'd find on Amazon, Walmart and other sites that have similar issues The only concerns of the Defender are the + shaped D-pad, the battery life, and the lack of Sixaxis (although most PS3 games can work fine without it) but it's otherwise a good alternative to finding used PS2/PS3 controllers. The battery life may seem like a negative but the PS3/PS4 controllers have similar battery life anyway though I do wish they lasted longer. I actually used a PS4 controller, and I noticed the battery life on the DS4 isn't as good compared to my Xbox One/Core controller using Ni-MH AA batteries which outperforms those battery packs. Still, it's better it has a rechargeable battery given that people complain about Microsoft using AA batteries on the Xbox Controller and having to buy alkaline batteries which I guess are likely from people who don't know that Ni-MH batteries exist. I remember seeing issues with the D-Pad on third-party PS2 controllers. Due to how their D-pads are designed, pressing a direction off-center makes the game register a diagonal input which doesn't happen with Sony controllers. It's most noticeable when playing The Sims or The Sims Bustin' Out since the game often has you holding Up or Right to view Motives (Needs) and Relationships respectively where the panel keeps opening/closing. It shouldn't be a big deal for most PS2 or PS3 games since the D-Pad isn't used often anyway (except in menu navigation), but it should be something to get in mind. I don't think this gets mentioned in videos, but I wondered if the Defender gets detected as an Xbox controller or a PlayStation controller. Some Windows games have button captions when using a DualShock 4 or DualSense, otherwise the Xbox buttons show up if an Xbox controller is connected.
this is exactly why I eagerly await the PS3 variant from retrofighters. There's just no good third-party option that is of any real decent quality. Also, You're not the first person to bring up the detection question, I will try to remember to check this weekend and will get back to you with that info!
I've got two of these (grey one for PS1 and black one for PS2). I agree with your take on this controller but would amplify a couple of points, 1) the R1/L1 buttons are really quite narrow and people with sausage fingers (like me) may often find themselves actuating the trigger button at the same time, 2) the vibration function is a lot weaker than that of the OEM controllers. Other than that it is my go to wireless controller for PS1 and PS2
3 questions, so is this still a great controller for ps3 if you don’t care abt the motion, also i think I’m leaning toward more of the bluetuth controller, can it have 4 controllers on the ps3 of this controller/ preferably the Bluetooth one, wanted to get 4 of them for so me and friends or fam to all play together with a good controller !
Why not use a DS4 on a PS3? I have two Defenders for multiplayer PS2 games when friends come over to play. I've always used a PS4 controller (DS4) on my PS3. Pairing is easy and the only shortcoming is the PS button doesn't function. I keep an old PS3 controller around for that.
Does it register button pressings for the PS2 games like the original dualshock 2? I mean like in some games like MGS2 and 3 where you gently push the fire button to aim and push it all the way to shoot.
Does this controller blow the PS2’s rumble fuse? I’d like to get one of these but I’m on the fence because a lot of 3rd party PS2 controllers blow the rumble fuse! Also, is it the PS7 or PS9 chip that needs to be replaced if your PS2 won’t let controllers vibrate?
I saw another video. It says that it si not like OEM. It registers pressure but not like OEM. I was looking for that info here. There is a Lot of ps2 games that use it....
@@rvreqTheSheepo honestly, not sure off the top of my head. I'm ASSUMING yes because it was simply plug n play for me 😅 I haven't had to re map anything so far.
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You mentioned the "pressure" of the input buttons. Do you mean that it is working well when dealing with a slight push for one function vs full push for another game function ? Best example I can think of would be ace combat shattered skies. The slight square push would bring up immediate radar vs full push would be the whole map / radar.
I got the defender for my PS3. It's incredible. I'm looking forward to the sixaxis version. Once that's out, my current defender will be my permanent PS2 controller.
Though I will say the trigger sensitivity is way too high. Hopefully they'll release a firmware update to solve that issue.
Pretty much exactly my plan as well haha.
Did they fix that?
@@My_Old_YT_Account guess not
@@My_Old_YT_Accountnope, got the BT edition and it’s still bad compared to the original
For me most of all it has the sad fate of most 3rd party controllers, awful deadzones.
I have to say the good reason to get the Defender is the issue of fake PlayStation controllers. It's nice to see other companies recreate the controller that has long been discontinued but they failed to make a controller that functions and lasts well. These controllers are reminiscent of the infamous third-party controllers from the 1990s and 2000s that are known for their poor build quality and performance much like the cheap no-name "gaming" keyboards/mice/headsets you'd find on Amazon, Walmart and other sites that have similar issues
The only concerns of the Defender are the + shaped D-pad, the battery life, and the lack of Sixaxis (although most PS3 games can work fine without it) but it's otherwise a good alternative to finding used PS2/PS3 controllers. The battery life may seem like a negative but the PS3/PS4 controllers have similar battery life anyway though I do wish they lasted longer. I actually used a PS4 controller, and I noticed the battery life on the DS4 isn't as good compared to my Xbox One/Core controller using Ni-MH AA batteries which outperforms those battery packs. Still, it's better it has a rechargeable battery given that people complain about Microsoft using AA batteries on the Xbox Controller and having to buy alkaline batteries which I guess are likely from people who don't know that Ni-MH batteries exist.
I remember seeing issues with the D-Pad on third-party PS2 controllers. Due to how their D-pads are designed, pressing a direction off-center makes the game register a diagonal input which doesn't happen with Sony controllers. It's most noticeable when playing The Sims or The Sims Bustin' Out since the game often has you holding Up or Right to view Motives (Needs) and Relationships respectively where the panel keeps opening/closing. It shouldn't be a big deal for most PS2 or PS3 games since the D-Pad isn't used often anyway (except in menu navigation), but it should be something to get in mind.
I don't think this gets mentioned in videos, but I wondered if the Defender gets detected as an Xbox controller or a PlayStation controller. Some Windows games have button captions when using a DualShock 4 or DualSense, otherwise the Xbox buttons show up if an Xbox controller is connected.
this is exactly why I eagerly await the PS3 variant from retrofighters. There's just no good third-party option that is of any real decent quality. Also, You're not the first person to bring up the detection question, I will try to remember to check this weekend and will get back to you with that info!
I've got two of these (grey one for PS1 and black one for PS2). I agree with your take on this controller but would amplify a couple of points, 1) the R1/L1 buttons are really quite narrow and people with sausage fingers (like me) may often find themselves actuating the trigger button at the same time, 2) the vibration function is a lot weaker than that of the OEM controllers. Other than that it is my go to wireless controller for PS1 and PS2
I ordered this controller yesterday from retro fighters with another controller. I own a ps3 and play mostly ps1 games on it.
3 questions, so is this still a great controller for ps3 if you don’t care abt the motion, also i think I’m leaning toward more of the bluetuth controller, can it have 4 controllers on the ps3 of this controller/ preferably the Bluetooth one, wanted to get 4 of them for so me and friends or fam to all play together with a good controller !
Why not use a DS4 on a PS3? I have two Defenders for multiplayer PS2 games when friends come over to play. I've always used a PS4 controller (DS4) on my PS3. Pairing is easy and the only shortcoming is the PS button doesn't function. I keep an old PS3 controller around for that.
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How do you connect the Defender to Switch? Please tell me!?
Would this do good for smash ultimate? I am used to PlayStation controller
QUESTION: Does this work as a PC controller too alongside an Emulation/PS1/PS2 controller?
Does the home button work to turn my ps3?
can you use 4 of these for mutlitap without issues? like no wireless signal issues with the controllers interfering with each other
Does it register button pressings for the PS2 games like the original dualshock 2? I mean like in some games like MGS2 and 3 where you gently push the fire button to aim and push it all the way to shoot.
Yeah it does, was worried about that too.
Does this controller blow the PS2’s rumble fuse? I’d like to get one of these but I’m on the fence because a lot of 3rd party PS2 controllers blow the rumble fuse! Also, is it the PS7 or PS9 chip that needs to be replaced if your PS2 won’t let controllers vibrate?
Is there by chance another controller like this that DOES have a good Dpad?
Are the buttons pressure sensitive like the PS2 controller?
I saw another video. It says that it si not like OEM. It registers pressure but not like OEM. I was looking for that info here. There is a Lot of ps2 games that use it....
How do I connect it to my switch OLED?
GREAT QUESTION! Did you find it out?
@@OtaQ yes I did. You have to go to settings and turn on the option for the pro wired controller or whatever it says.
@@MarkFromTheMitten thank you very much. I contacted the support later that day. It was amazing, 5 minutes later I had the answer.
Hey there! Is it working well with Steam Deck? :)
It is! Played some San Andreas on it yesterday 😎
@@DigitalCynics Awesome, is it detected as Xbox controller or you need to tinker with mapping? :o
@@rvreqTheSheepo honestly, not sure off the top of my head. I'm ASSUMING yes because it was simply plug n play for me 😅
I haven't had to re map anything so far.
@@DigitalCynics Okies! Thank you a lot, everyone else ignored me. So I'm gonna pull the trigger then, have a nice day pal. :)
You too! Thanks for watching 😁
Yeah like not syncing like its supposed to. Lets talk about that. Ya plug it into your ps3 and it syncs. Mine doesnt. Just flashes. Thing is garbage
Vigilante 8
Was that the twisted metal-like game? Haha haven't played that in forever!