The firewood market is the most underestimated and underserved market in my opinion. Every year most sell out and people end up having to buy form the box stores @ 4x the price. All price cutting and competition only serves to change who sells out first!!
Fun video today guy's. With your social club you've got going on there, maybe it's time for a burner barrel to talk around, and make good use of that stuff you rake up and dump out back. lol
Very informative video, guys! Really enjoyed the discussion about all the factors to consider with a firewood business. Just getting into it as a hobby now and doing firewood stand sales at the end of our driveway. So far so good, almost 40 bundles sold in less than 3 weeks!
Tony makes me feel like I'm there, part of the conversation. You know, we're the strong, silent type!! Hardly ever say anything! You know me, it's just the way I am! - Really enjoyed it. Good on all us firewooders! - In all the fairy tales for kids, it's always the woodcutter that's the hero...Shucks ma'am, tweren't nothing.
If is warm enough, aka in the 20s for highs next weekend, am thinking of coming up next weekend to help with splitting if you have any left. Gotta pay you back somehow for the boost your channel gave me. I've been watching K&L Firewood from time to time.
@@InTheWoodyard, maybe next Saturday if I can can ride along and help you with deliveries if you have stacking deliveries. Will see what the weather is doing.
Hi Chris - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. A very enjoyable video in gloriously clear weather. You were a bit of a meanie with your star quests - no seats, no woodfire, no coffee and not even a glass of water. I hope their appearance money made up for it!
I haven't BEEN to saudi, but I've been to kuwait and qatar. Close enough lol. It gets frigid in the winter at night. And winter was the rainy season too! RELATIVELY frigid, mind you. Maybe 45 if I remember right? But the fact that the bare desert has no heat blanket effect, and coupled with 70 degrees during the day, makes night feel worse.
Tony has a NEW BEST Friend. Geese are bad near the Airport. How funny Tony shows up and all the Geese and Ducks fly over and he has a sweat shirt on with Geese. Just at my local Lowes stores and they had small bundles and about 8 to 10 pc. for $10.00. I'm Polish and there are only two kinds of people in the world. Polish people and those who want to be Polish. 🤣🤣K&L Firewood, Back the Blue.
Chris, with so much *Ash wood* "in the woodyard", when loading the trailer or the pick-up. Don't make a mistake when 'selecting' the wood, or you could make an *Ash* of yourself!! LOL😂
Congratulations on a great year, Chris. I listened to the video at least 10 times and cannot decipher the name of Mike’s channel. Will you put a link in the comments. Thanks. Looking forward to a new year in the Woodyard. Steve
Here in Michigan Eastern UP there are guys selling maple beech and ash face cords for $ 75 delivered and stacked. I just do bundles because I can't compete at $ 75
Nice video Chris. Firewood Brotherhood-novel concept. Those Stihl saws look too pretty to be working saws. Glad you got at least one sharp. Yup, I sneak peeked KNL. GNI
My friend is a small engine mechanic and he swears the Husqvarna is garbage. But I see chris having no trouble with his, and now I'm wondering lol. Maybe he thinks they're garbage because idiots break them way more than other ones?
Suggest Mike might use a CRM database such as Markate or Jobber, or Responsibid for keeping track of customers and send automatic reminder emails for return customers and getting 5star reviews. Goodnight Irene
Lots of honkers headed south. That’s what I should be doing. Looks like your set to run out of wood. Haven’t seen to much processing for last couple months. Have good day Chris.
Good morning Chris!!😀😀 Kinda have to watch out when looking up at that many geese when they are flying over. You might get something undesirable in your eye. LOL!!🤣🤣 Take care my friend!!😀😀 Logger Al
All depends on location. In rural area of western ny to move any volume need to be in 70 to 80 a facecord delivered. Hard to compete with prosser guys calling there fresh cut logs seasoned. Highest advertised price I have seen is 90 delivered. Nobody does as nice a job as Chris. I am trying. I stacked every thing this year.
The one thing I can't understand is the volume problem every YT'er seems to face. KNL's 20 cords is only $6k without expenses, and that's probably the threshold where more becomes extreme work. Your 200 cords is still only $40k-$60k before buying the truckloads. Not every piece is from that supply, but enough. Back to the topic of this being a business versus hobby, you now throw in maintenance, depreciation, fuel, etc. and this is a gym membership at best, but rarely a livelihood. I simply can't see a way in which firewood is more than enjoyment for side money. It's not profitable at scale unless you quickly migrate from commercial grade splitting to processing. If someone is looking for a 45-50 hour per week job, making a living, then commercial splitting (non-processor) isn't suitable. I understand this isn't you, but for many outsiders looking in (20,000 viewers per day now), they might not readily see the economics of the firewood industry. Would love this topic as a video.
Yeah if you're getting truckloads you already spent a hundred per cord that you sell for 300, so your profit is strangled and depends on everything else running perfectly. BUT if you're bucking the wood for free out of the forest, you're not getting enough volume to even compete with a part time job. And if you injure yourself, you're done for a while. You don't have the supply lines and connections already built up to just switch to truckloads on the spot. You'd have to have a huge yard, a meaty processor, and if you're working alone, 50 hour weeks at least to make a living. You'd have to have commercial contracts, the volume and price makes that more efficient. At least a very sizeable market snagged all to yourself, and a loyal one bred with great product. If you can afford an employee, it would probably be wise to invest in a kiln so you can finish-dry the already good wood and have him bundle it up. Bundles HAVE to be dry to compete.
I love pine, it just does not put out as many BTUs as most hardwoods do. It burns faster so people who heat with wood want slow burning long lasting wood overnight.
I’m glad you got the fuel can vents. Have a Happy and safe New Year.
Yup, thanks a bunch, now I have to get them on!!!!
The firewood market is the most underestimated and underserved market in my opinion. Every year most sell out and people end up having to buy form the box stores @ 4x the price. All price cutting and competition only serves to change who sells out first!!
Time to raise the price $30
You are correct!
$1,000,000!!!!
Great talk, guys. Enjoyed the collaboration. I too love that splitting sound. -Chad
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video with KNL firewood and Tony! Guess we will have to have Broker Tony to find a saw. Wonder what his finderfee is! Great interview with them
Thanks Craig!
@@InTheWoodyard, you are welcome!
Looks like you hooked another free helper🤣👍🏻 Good conversation always happens with like minded people!! Nice video.👍🏻👍🏻GNI
Yup! I like help!
Your number one fan is in southern Ontario!! Thanks for posting every day something to watch while I have breakfast before work
Thanks #1!!!
Great video!! Love the different aspects of woodyards. Have a Safe Day
Glad you enjoyed it
The bowling pins are the best part of your videos chris 🤣
Bowling pin sounds brings back some great child hood memories.
Thanks Brad!
Cool!
A firewood mafia.......lol, Love your videos. I do some cutting & splitting too, but only for myself. I live is west central Wisconsin
Very cool Mikey!
Fun video today guy's. With your social club you've got going on there, maybe it's time for a burner barrel to talk around, and make good use of that stuff you rake up and dump out back. lol
That is a good idea!
love this video. I learn so much from you guys. One day I will visit.
I hope so too!
It was nice to see you and Tony in your wood yard. Looking forward to seeing you 3 cutting tomorrow.
Us too!
Very informative video, guys! Really enjoyed the discussion about all the factors to consider with a firewood business. Just getting into it as a hobby now and doing firewood stand sales at the end of our driveway. So far so good, almost 40 bundles sold in less than 3 weeks!
That is awesome, way to go!
Tony makes me feel like I'm there, part of the conversation. You know, we're the strong, silent type!! Hardly ever say anything! You know me, it's just the way I am! - Really enjoyed it. Good on all us firewooders! - In all the fairy tales for kids, it's always the woodcutter that's the hero...Shucks ma'am, tweren't nothing.
HAAAAA!
Hey Chris, Germany also should be on the list of regular viewers 😉✌
Yes, we have 55-60 countries watching now, that is awesome!
If is warm enough, aka in the 20s for highs next weekend, am thinking of coming up next weekend to help with splitting if you have any left. Gotta pay you back somehow for the boost your channel gave me. I've been watching K&L Firewood from time to time.
I might have some cut by then, I have been doing nothing but deliveries!
@@InTheWoodyard, maybe next Saturday if I can can ride along and help you with deliveries if you have stacking deliveries. Will see what the weather is doing.
That's interesting to learn about other utubers
Yes it is! Thanks for watching Peter!
Now there is a trio!!! Mike will not get another sub here!! I already subscribed to his channel 🤣🤣 Great conversation on firewood business. GNI
Thanks other Mike!
Hi Chris - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. A very enjoyable video in gloriously clear weather. You were a bit of a meanie with your star quests - no seats, no woodfire, no coffee and not even a glass of water. I hope their appearance money made up for it!
Rodney.🤣🤣🤣 that's a good one..🤣🤣
HA! Next time champagne and caviar!
Yup!
G’morning Chris ! Great convo with great info ! Thanks a bunch. GoodNightIrene
Thanks Corey!
I haven't BEEN to saudi, but I've been to kuwait and qatar. Close enough lol. It gets frigid in the winter at night. And winter was the rainy season too!
RELATIVELY frigid, mind you. Maybe 45 if I remember right? But the fact that the bare desert has no heat blanket effect, and coupled with 70 degrees during the day, makes night feel worse.
45 is warm!
Happy New Year Chris. Love your videos.
Same to you! Thanks!!
Nice interview Chris.. Guess when it it my turn at the Firewood Frenzy I should be a suck up ans get you a bottle of Mtn Dew..🤣🤣👍
HA! Thanks for watching Daniel!
Catch You in 2022---Happy New Year
Thanks Larry!
Tony has a NEW BEST Friend. Geese are bad near the Airport. How funny Tony shows up and all the Geese and Ducks fly over and he has a sweat shirt on with Geese. Just at my local Lowes stores and they had small bundles and about 8 to 10 pc. for $10.00. I'm Polish and there are only two kinds of people in the world. Polish people and those who want to be Polish. 🤣🤣K&L Firewood, Back the Blue.
Thanks for the good words Stanley!
Chris, with so much *Ash wood* "in the woodyard", when loading the trailer or the pick-up. Don't make a mistake when 'selecting' the wood, or you could make an *Ash* of yourself!! LOL😂
I do that a lot!
Great conversation with your visitors.
Yes it was, thanks!
Nice cast of characters and firewood conversation. Time to get outside and get cutting. GNI
Thanks, yes....get to work!
Happy New Year from the English Lake District!
Hello from across the pond!
Wood hound from the PNW here. But it does appear most are in the Midwest.
Thanks for watching Brandon!
Mike, Home of Woodmizer, Batesville, IN Here!
Yes he is!
What a great group of guys, wishing you all well and continued success in the new year!
Thanks Mr.Timber!
Keep the snow and timber content coming...not much of either here in Saudi Arabia!
Will do Doug! Thanks for watching!
You guys are at the top of your game
But it is a low game! HA!
🇧🇪 belgium watch your channel 2 👍
Thanks a bunch Jeroen!
Chris that was a good way of getting that wood pile cut with exerting a lot of energy. LOL
Yup, part of my new plan! ha!
Great stuff, gonna go check out knl now
Thanks..do it!
Congratulations on a great year, Chris. I listened to the video at least 10 times and cannot decipher the name of Mike’s channel. Will you put a link in the comments. Thanks. Looking forward to a new year in the Woodyard. Steve
KNL FIREWOOD
@@jimrichards8703 thanks. Off to check it out... be back tomorrow for the saw demos.
Sorry, yup....KNL FIREWOOD
Thanks!
Proof Tony is the true stare of this channel! Sorry Chris!!
SHHHHH! DON'T TELL ANYONE!
@@InTheWoodyard it will be our secret. For a stick of gum....
Great stuff Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks Frank!
Happy New Year FRIENDs of GBL…BLESSINGS to you my FRIEND!
Thanks same to you!
Here in Michigan Eastern UP there are guys selling maple beech and ash face cords for $ 75 delivered and stacked. I just do bundles because I can't compete at $ 75
I live in Wisconsin, I just bought a full cord of dry oak delivered for $150
Wow, that is really cheap! It is worth at least 2x that!
In the city you can charge more, in the country that is about right...$70-80
@@InTheWoodyard I know, right. I cut my own wood, could't pass that deal up
Nice video Chris. Firewood Brotherhood-novel concept. Those Stihl saws look too pretty to be working saws. Glad you got at least one sharp. Yup, I sneak peeked KNL. GNI
My friend is a small engine mechanic and he swears the Husqvarna is garbage. But I see chris having no trouble with his, and now I'm wondering lol.
Maybe he thinks they're garbage because idiots break them way more than other ones?
Thanks Larry!
Mine just cut.
Suggest Mike might use a CRM database such as Markate or Jobber, or Responsibid for keeping track of customers and send automatic reminder emails for return customers and getting 5star reviews. Goodnight Irene
On a big enough scale yes, but I have about 300 customers and write up everything by hand and file it in an organizer and it is EASY and simple.
That's funny the geese and his goose shirt
Yup, TONY IS LIKE THAT!
hope you had a great chirstmas chris and happy new years!!
Thanks Kev, I did and I will, same to you!
Happy New Year from another firewood weirdo in the soggy wet north of England
Thanks Mick!
Lots of honkers headed south. That’s what I should be doing. Looks like your set to run out of wood. Haven’t seen to much processing for last couple months. Have good day Chris.
Yes, I am worried, lots of selling and not much making!
I am going to have to find some dry wood come spring myself.
Good morning Chris!!😀😀
Kinda have to watch out when looking up at that many geese when they are flying over. You might get something undesirable in your eye. LOL!!🤣🤣
Take care my friend!!😀😀
Logger Al
Thanks for the tip! A person could get it in their mouth too! Later Al!
Here from NZ 🙂😉
Hello, thanks for stopping in!
Good company !
Thanks Bruce!
So many Canadian gooses!
Yup, we have a bunch of the sky carp!
What was Mike's channel called
KNL Firewood
Yup KNL FIREWOOD!
Thanks you sir!
Did you ever find out who your neighbor bought firewood from?…Seeing Tony standing there with his hands in his pocket made me think of this
Ha! It was not Tony!
How long have you and Tony been friends Chris? It seems like you guys go way back
You will be surprised....about 6 months!!!! REALLY!
Mike should hook up with Logger Wade in Indiana. He has a saw mill and probably lots of cast offs
That is a good idea, but they might be a long ways apart.
Compared to california, all those States back there are small. Probably not more than a couple hours away
It sells fast because you guys are to cheap. Raise your prices
Great video
That is part of it!
All depends on location. In rural area of western ny to move any volume need to be in 70 to 80 a facecord delivered. Hard to compete with prosser guys calling there fresh cut logs seasoned. Highest advertised price I have seen is 90 delivered. Nobody does as nice a job as Chris. I am trying. I stacked every thing this year.
Good morning from Grand Forks
Hello Dean!
Mike works for the ATF. He was there to check and count the size off your rounds 😂
HA! Maybe so!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Chris what is Mike channel name so i could take a look
KNL firewood
The one thing I can't understand is the volume problem every YT'er seems to face. KNL's 20 cords is only $6k without expenses, and that's probably the threshold where more becomes extreme work. Your 200 cords is still only $40k-$60k before buying the truckloads. Not every piece is from that supply, but enough. Back to the topic of this being a business versus hobby, you now throw in maintenance, depreciation, fuel, etc. and this is a gym membership at best, but rarely a livelihood.
I simply can't see a way in which firewood is more than enjoyment for side money. It's not profitable at scale unless you quickly migrate from commercial grade splitting to processing. If someone is looking for a 45-50 hour per week job, making a living, then commercial splitting (non-processor) isn't suitable. I understand this isn't you, but for many outsiders looking in (20,000 viewers per day now), they might not readily see the economics of the firewood industry. Would love this topic as a video.
It's a whole different story when you think from your head versus living from your heart. Obie from Ohio.
Yeah if you're getting truckloads you already spent a hundred per cord that you sell for 300, so your profit is strangled and depends on everything else running perfectly.
BUT if you're bucking the wood for free out of the forest, you're not getting enough volume to even compete with a part time job. And if you injure yourself, you're done for a while. You don't have the supply lines and connections already built up to just switch to truckloads on the spot.
You'd have to have a huge yard, a meaty processor, and if you're working alone, 50 hour weeks at least to make a living. You'd have to have commercial contracts, the volume and price makes that more efficient. At least a very sizeable market snagged all to yourself, and a loyal one bred with great product. If you can afford an employee, it would probably be wise to invest in a kiln so you can finish-dry the already good wood and have him bundle it up. Bundles HAVE to be dry to compete.
All good point Michael.... I never said it was easy or a get rich plan for sure. But an average person can make a few extra bucks.
Yes, great point, ya gotta love it!
All great point sir!
Good morning everyone.
Hello Sir Stanley!
nice show
Thanks
Don’t forget us Scottish viewers
That is great, hello from across the pond!
Everyone should start cutting from both ends of the stack at once lol, while the filmographer runs back and forth.
HA! That would be dangerous!
Found it knl
Yes KNL FIREWOOD
🤘
Thanks Jeff!
👍
Thanks for the thumb!
Can't find any videos from king of firewood
Sorry, KNL FIREWOOD
One order sheet for a tank of gas on the 400 should be enough for the trade.
HA! Yup!
Does Tony have a RUclips channel?
Yes, it is called ....In The Wood Yard! HA!
Does Tony have his own channel?
Yup, it is called...In The WoodYard! HA!
From Tasmania ........ ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿
Thanks for watching!
I must admit- I like you Weirdos!
Thanks, we are weird for sure!
Am I dreaming or have you already posted this video previously? Maybe it was KNL’s video that I saw.
KNL was posted last week..but that is ok both great videos..
It was KNL!
Yup!
Can someone tell me why no one likes pine?
I love pine, it just does not put out as many BTUs as most hardwoods do. It burns faster so people who heat with wood want slow burning long lasting wood overnight.
Cheers to being firewood weirdos!!! 🤪 🪵
Thanks!
I bet by the time he left he had a little polish in him
Yup, 100%
So whats the day job 😂
Me? I am a photographer. 40 YEARS NOW!!
! what a bunch of "WEIRDO'S"... LOL
I was laughing too..🤣🤣
Yup, that is true!
The truth is funny!
first comment
Gold star again!!
👍
Thanks!