"The blade guard was removed for filming..." As if. I, for years, wanted an Inca saw, and was super happy to find one. One reason was how great the blade guard is... Turns out you can't see what you are doing, and you can't even pass through wide pieces with it in place.
@@HondoTrailside Keyboard OSHA inspectors like to point that out. If you actually use a table saw, you will know that it's not always feasible to use the blade guard. I never use mine because, as you mentioned, you can't see what your cutting. Also, mine is from the 1960's. So, the "clear" plastic is a nice bronze color and it's not very easy to push pieces under it. Therefore, it stays on the shelf and I use my brain instead of relying on the equipment to keep me safe. Safety starts in your head.
Tried this for the first time and after adjusting the router bit to the right height, it works GREAT. Now I can make the boxes very easily for MANY different projects. THANK YOU, Paw PAW, for this awesome idea and video!!!!
What a nifty little project. Also a great learning exercise if someone is new to a router table, as it’s a great way of finding out about setting the fence and the cutter height 😊
I’m with you brother paw paw. Yeah I could cut it on the CNC. Yeah I could 3D print it. But sometimes I want to do things the way my dad taught me on a tablesaw.
Thank You For using your blade guard Little boxes that are cheap and quick If you seal the inside of the hardboard with polyurethane it’ll toughen the boxes
You’re very welcome. Yes, I use this guard as much as possible. Always, safety is the most important aspect of working in the shop. Thank you for the suggestion.
I make specialty boxes for art supplies, and they have a hinge in them and a bunch of features. I found that printing them, the flat surfaces look cheap, and they take for ever to make. So I just print sides. They have features built in like holes and recesses for hardware. The sides look nice because they have the neat vertical layers on them. I use plywood, sometimes even little oil paintings for the tops and bottoms. I made the sides with a return to them so that there is a little extra for glue, and the boxes look really good and are fast to make. They are also tough because the corners are solid.
Set the bit so that it just cuts through the surface of the board. Then run one strip of tape along the router table, and put no tape on the board. This makes the bottom of the V one thickness of tape, and it folds easily. With a little mitering you can make smaller boxes out of the cutoffs. That's when you can use tape on the board.
i use the same method pretty much on cardboard to make quick and dirty parts boxes. just gotta be sure not to press down too much or the cardboard compresses and you cut through.
There is nothing more satisfying than cutting corrugated cardboard on a table saw. Best part of my day building stairs is cutting cardboard to size for covering the treads. I’m a sick sick man. 😅
Nice use of scrap. Not sure making such boxes is cost effective for time and materials but using scrap and getting a box that is "just right" makes it all worthwhile.
You actually used 2 bits. The table saw bit and the router bit. LoL! This is a great idea and is something that I will use to help me make boxes for a completely different project. When I make that video I'll reference this one. Thank you for sharing your talent with us. God bless and stay safe in the shop.
Very good idea. It reminds me of a little math exercise : We have a piece of wood whose length is L and width is W and we want to make a box with your method. Which height H must we choose to get the maximum volume ?
@@PawPawsWorkShop Hello PawPaw ! It is not easy to write mathematics with a keyboard, so I give you directly the solution without demonstration : H = ( W+L - SQR(W²+L² - W x L) ) x 0.166666 . SQR : square root For example: If L= 10 and W=7, we find H=1.35... and the volume is: (10 - 1.35x2)x(7 - 1.35x2)x1.35 = 42.37
If you tape both sides, would that make cleaning up the glue squeeze out easier? Maybe not worth it for parts storage, but for a nice apothecary's cabinet or something where you're going to finish the inside.
if you need individual boxes, it is a good idea! But normaly there are sooo many different boxes on the market for a price, you cannot reach with DIY! Make an addition of the cost for the wood, tape, energy and so on....
imma argue that it's easiest to rip the sides/ends on a table saw, and then rip bottoms. Get out the sled and cut you the sides and ends and bottoms. Feel free to stack the raw material. Don't bother with miters. Use CA glue and activator, or reg glue and a 23 ga brad. The issue is not how long to make 4, but to make 50. If you can stack the material you can cut 5 per cut. Just saying. They won't look as nice, but it's hardboard.... ;)
True. Probably faster your way. There's something really satisfying about using the v groove bit to make "perfect" assembly easier though. The big thing is that it's saving you the trouble of keeping up with separate sides/pieces. And it's saving you the work of positioning the sides properly.
I really like this idea. However, I have been trying this with 1/4 hardboard, and no matter how close to the surface I make the v-cut (without severing the material) when I try to bend it, it breaks. Any suggestions?
Thank you very much. The saw guard is from pennstate industries. This is the company that specializes in woodturning pens. I did a full review on this guard
Yes, 3D print is great, however, as you are aware not everyone has a 3D printer. I have shown 3D printer boxes as well. I want to show options in order that all people will be included.
You could save them for end pieces of other small boxes. You would just need two sides and the bottom. The previous scrap pieces become the other two sides. Zero waste. 👍
@@fin3125Yes, gridfinity is great and I think this hardboard material could be used in that system. Especially good for bigger boxes. Just glue on printed out gridfinity "keys" on the bottom.
Interesting take on the table saw method and the box cutting sawblade that Andrew Klein invented 9 years ago. Of course Andy’s invention allows the use of sturdy plywood and a locking method to make actual large drawer boxes. ruclips.net/video/S074ke-EJ6U/видео.htmlsi=Ab184rdBa-4-709M
Thank you for your comment. You obviously are an experienced woodworker and do not need the very entry level basic steps. Unfortunately, so people do need the explanation.
Great idea. Nice to see someone using a blade guard on their table saw - a rare sight on RUclips.
Thank you, I use this guard as much as possible. Also, my sled has a guard on it as well. Always, safety first
"The blade guard was removed for filming..." As if. I, for years, wanted an Inca saw, and was super happy to find one. One reason was how great the blade guard is... Turns out you can't see what you are doing, and you can't even pass through wide pieces with it in place.
@@HondoTrailside Keyboard OSHA inspectors like to point that out. If you actually use a table saw, you will know that it's not always feasible to use the blade guard. I never use mine because, as you mentioned, you can't see what your cutting. Also, mine is from the 1960's. So, the "clear" plastic is a nice bronze color and it's not very easy to push pieces under it. Therefore, it stays on the shelf and I use my brain instead of relying on the equipment to keep me safe. Safety starts in your head.
@@PawPawsWorkShop But what about router dust collection?
Tried this for the first time and after adjusting the router bit to the right height, it works GREAT. Now I can make the boxes very easily for MANY different projects.
THANK YOU, Paw PAW, for this awesome idea and video!!!!
Great to hear! Thank you so much. So glad that this video helped you.
This really looks simple to make. I'll keep this video in mind for when I want to reorganise my drawers coming winter. Thanks for sharing the video.
Excellent, yes a perfect winter project. Thank you very much
You are very gifted as a teacher...and make shop time safe and fun. I'm gonna use this idea.
Awesome! Thank you very much
One of those crazy easy ideas that just works.
I'm stealing this one.
Cheers Mate.
Go for it! That’s great! Thanks a lot for watching
Never seen a router table without th such a convenient height adjustment. Slick!
Thank you
@PawPawsWorkShop what router table is it?
@@Steinmetal4 he has a video on it I think, at least for the height adjustment mechanism
9:35 The rubber bands actually made me smile with delight. I've got a ton of waste hardboard looking for a project. Love it
Awesome! Thank you very much for watching
Great, simple technique. Effective, efficient, and best of all, EASY!! Thanks Paw Paw!
You are so welcome! Glad you liked it
Excellent idea for boxes that doesn't demand a special finishing and that are for daily use in the shop! TY!
You are so welcome! Thank you for your comment
Hands down one of my all time favorite videos. This works like a charm!
Thank you very much. I appreciate it so much
What a nifty little project. Also a great learning exercise if someone is new to a router table, as it’s a great way of finding out about setting the fence and the cutter height 😊
Absolutely! Thank you very much
I’m with you brother paw paw. Yeah I could cut it on the CNC. Yeah I could 3D print it.
But sometimes I want to do things the way my dad taught me on a tablesaw.
Exactly, thank you very much.
As always, this is a really great, simple, useful project for all of us! THANK YOU for all your videos! JUST TERRIFIC and FUN!!! for all you do!
You are so welcome! Thank you so much for your kind words
Thank You
For using your blade guard
Little boxes that are cheap and quick
If you seal the inside of the hardboard with polyurethane it’ll toughen the boxes
You’re very welcome. Yes, I use this guard as much as possible. Always, safety is the most important aspect of working in the shop. Thank you for the suggestion.
Subscribed for using appropriate thin materials instead of 3/4” plywood.
Awesome! Thank you very much
Terrific Idea, PawPaw. Another home run from your shop.
Thank you very much. I appreciate you comments
Your idea here has made me sub... Excellent idea & i can't wait to head to my workshop & knock some boxes out!
I am so glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you so much
Really clever and simple way of making boxes, thanks!
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching
I make specialty boxes for art supplies, and they have a hinge in them and a bunch of features. I found that printing them, the flat surfaces look cheap, and they take for ever to make. So I just print sides. They have features built in like holes and recesses for hardware. The sides look nice because they have the neat vertical layers on them.
I use plywood, sometimes even little oil paintings for the tops and bottoms. I made the sides with a return to them so that there is a little extra for glue, and the boxes look really good and are fast to make. They are also tough because the corners are solid.
Awesome, would love to see pictures
Set the bit so that it just cuts through the surface of the board. Then run one strip of tape along the router table, and put no tape on the board. This makes the bottom of the V one thickness of tape, and it folds easily.
With a little mitering you can make smaller boxes out of the cutoffs. That's when you can use tape on the board.
Excellent idea. Thank you
I am sure it will be great for acrylic sheets. I will try. Thank you. Very nice idea
I hope you have great results. Thanks
Neat idea. Simple and effective
Glad you like it! Extremely easy to do. Results are excellent. Thanks for watching
i use the same method pretty much on cardboard to make quick and dirty parts boxes. just gotta be sure not to press down too much or the cardboard compresses and you cut through.
Awesome! Excellent idea
There is nothing more satisfying than cutting corrugated cardboard on a table saw.
Best part of my day building stairs is cutting cardboard to size for covering the treads.
I’m a sick sick man. 😅
Excelente tu idea. Muchas gracias por tus contenidos!
Thank you very much. Yes, it is a simple idea that works great
You could also put these small boxes on a mini french cleat system to hang on a wall or cabinet door.
Excellent idea. Thank you
great build. Just what I need for my drawers
Perfect! That will work. Thank you very much.
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you.
You're very welcome! Thank you very much.
Thanks for this, very useful
You're welcome! So glad that you found it to be helpful
The pattern can be nested to eliminate some waste or improve yield.
Yes, excellent idea. Thank you very much much.
Nice use of scrap. Not sure making such boxes is cost effective for time and materials but using scrap and getting a box that is "just right" makes it all worthwhile.
Yes, you’re correct. Thank you very much
Nice job. Thank you. God bless
Thank you very much. May God bless you and your family as well
These small boxes, if you have to buy them are expensive and when you need 20-30 of these that’s a lot of $$$. . Thanks 🙏 ❤❤
You’re welcome 😊. Thank you very much
You actually used 2 bits. The table saw bit and the router bit. LoL! This is a great idea and is something that I will use to help me make boxes for a completely different project. When I make that video I'll reference this one. Thank you for sharing your talent with us. God bless and stay safe in the shop.
lol, not sure I would call a saw blade a bit but ok. Awesome, would love to see the video.
Awesome easy project!
Yep, and using the same technique you can scale this to any size
Awesome video. Thanks
Glad you liked it! Thank you very much
Great video!
Thank you very much.
looks good, thanks for sharing
Thank you very much. Glad you like it
Genius!
Thank you very much
Ty paw paw! ❤
You’re very welcome
I have been searching for an easy box. I was looking for stackable but if i glue the exess in strips on the bottom that will sit inside. THANK YOU!
You’re very welcome. You have an excellent idea
to save on material, use the "waste" to make two smaller boxes
Good idea thanks
Thanks for the idea. I was looking at my hardware drawers and they need help bad.
Glad I could help! Thank you for watching
Very good idea. It reminds me of a little math exercise : We have a piece of wood whose length is L and width is W and we want to make a box with your method. Which height H must we choose to get the maximum volume ?
Awesome, I have not thought of it that way. Thank you for sharing.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Hello PawPaw ! It is not easy to write mathematics with a keyboard, so I give you directly the solution without demonstration : H = ( W+L - SQR(W²+L² - W x L) ) x 0.166666 . SQR : square root
For example: If L= 10 and W=7, we find H=1.35... and the volume is: (10 - 1.35x2)x(7 - 1.35x2)x1.35 = 42.37
Could a thin wood panel be used instead of masonite.
Another material that might be handy is scrap laminated flooring.
Certainly a possibility. Thank you for the suggestion
@@PawPawsWorkShoplast time I routed laminate flooring, it trashed my bit.
Seems like those corner pieces should be glued up into 3 more boxes. 😁 (Probably the CA glue would be easier for that!)
Good idea!
Nice!!!
Thank you so much
If you tape both sides, would that make cleaning up the glue squeeze out easier? Maybe not worth it for parts storage, but for a nice apothecary's cabinet or something where you're going to finish the inside.
Yes, that could certainly work well. Thank you very much for the suggestion
if you need individual boxes, it is a good idea!
But normaly there are sooo many different boxes on the market for a price, you cannot reach with DIY! Make an addition of the cost for the wood, tape, energy and so on....
You forgot to mention that they are fun to make Can’t put a price on that. Lol
@PawPawsWorkShop yes of course . I know the funfactor of DIY. 😉👋
Do you have a dedicated woodshop that is a separate building on your property? Or do you use your garage with all your woodworking equipment in it?
Can this be done with solid wood too? I'd like to make a salt box out of maple.
It’s a little move difficult because of the grain of the wood. You may need to score the wood or even steam the area to successfully bend the wood.
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Awesome, thank you very much
Nice, i will use this on my CNC to make a box for a "print and play' board game.
Awesome, using the CNC will make it an easy project. Thanks for watching
Who's table saw guard is that , Thanks
This is from Pennstate industries
I've made these without using the tape with no problems
Awesome! Yes, it not necessary however it just gives a little more support for those doing it for the first time
My friend, can I cut in easel inlay pocket and negative plug so that v bit removes everything what is not plug?
That is very difficult if not possible in easel. Far better option to do inlays is to use VCarve
@@PawPawsWorkShop or Carveco maker?
imma argue that it's easiest to rip the sides/ends on a table saw, and then rip bottoms. Get out the sled and cut you the sides and ends and bottoms. Feel free to stack the raw material. Don't bother with miters. Use CA glue and activator, or reg glue and a 23 ga brad. The issue is not how long to make 4, but to make 50. If you can stack the material you can cut 5 per cut. Just saying. They won't look as nice, but it's hardboard.... ;)
True. Probably faster your way. There's something really satisfying about using the v groove bit to make "perfect" assembly easier though. The big thing is that it's saving you the trouble of keeping up with separate sides/pieces. And it's saving you the work of positioning the sides properly.
What is the tape for again??
Support and act as a clamp
I really like this idea. However, I have been trying this with 1/4 hardboard, and no matter how close to the surface I make the v-cut (without severing the material) when I try to bend it, it breaks. Any suggestions?
Try scoring it with a knife
How would this work with normal wood?
Great idea on the boxes. So much faster than 3D printing. But what I really want to know where you got that table saw guard? Is it DIY or commercial?
Thank you very much. The saw guard is from pennstate industries. This is the company that specializes in woodturning pens. I did a full review on this guard
3d print it and you can say "no router required" in your video. 3d printer is cheaper and easier to use, so that would make more sense.
Yes, 3D print is great, however, as you are aware not everyone has a 3D printer. I have shown 3D printer boxes as well. I want to show options in order that all people will be included.
What do with the of cuts
Those little cutoff pieces I discard
If you want to hear him mention it, go to about 7:50.
You could save them for end pieces of other small boxes. You would just need two sides and the bottom. The previous scrap pieces become the other two sides. Zero waste. 👍
Thanks for your reply
What other materials would you suggest for the boxes?
Masonite is the best but you can do it with thin plywood
Take me 5 minutes of work to 3d print from my fusion 360 Parameter driven model.
then you have parts bins made of brittle, ugly, wasteful plastic. i have a 3d printer and love it but if it can be made of wood instead it should be
Certainly an option. I have 3D printed numerous boxes. Thank you very much
Thank you for you comments
@@lil-j-waters I think MDF is ugly.
I use gridfinity and it looks great in all my drawers. Very organized. Shame I can't add a pic here.
@@fin3125Yes, gridfinity is great and I think this hardboard material could be used in that system. Especially good for bigger boxes. Just glue on printed out gridfinity "keys" on the bottom.
only 1 Question WHY not using REAL WOOD for the boxes , i dont like this cheap pressed PAPER , sr2 say that
You can use just about any material. Real wood is an option as is acrylic and so many other options are available.
Interesting take on the table saw method and the box cutting sawblade that Andrew Klein invented 9 years ago. Of course Andy’s invention allows the use of sturdy plywood and a locking method to make actual large drawer boxes.
ruclips.net/video/S074ke-EJ6U/видео.htmlsi=Ab184rdBa-4-709M
Thank you for your comment yet this had nothing to do with my video. There are better ways to promote a video
Pretty sure you can just buy these for less.
lol, what fun is that. You also can customize any size you wish.
Come on... couldnt get thru your vid, due to the lesson on measuring !
Thank you for your comment. You obviously are an experienced woodworker and do not need the very entry level basic steps. Unfortunately, so people do need the explanation.