Sword's Path | The Basics - The High Guards
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Here, the three high guards or stances of longsword fencing.
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I'm a 25 years old HEMA instructor and sword performer from Poland. I've been fencing since I was 12, evolving through sport fencing, polish saber, kenjutsu, to finally settle on renaissance german longsword (go Team Meyer!).
I do blacksmithing for a living. Feel free to review my crafts at:
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Now go throw some cuts!
I've never finished so many quests in under 4 minutes :P
I know right? This video makes me feel so accomplished.
Everytime the quest completion music came the "HOI!" played in my head afterwards.. lol.
Great videos, nice production value, clear presentation, good information. I look forward to more.
why isnt medieval swordfighting a popular sport *sighs*
+Joeon Ren Where are you from? Check out the SCA if you're in the USA.
+Joeon Ren
HEMA is becoming increasingly popular throughout the world. We are always looking to grow though so if you're not already a part then come join us.
Hi Joeon Ren, also, for intense full-contact medieval fighting in fully historical armor with real live steel weapons, check out the Armored Combat League (ACL) in the US as well as the International Medieval Combat Federation (IMCF). Internationally, the sport is referred to in the bucket of "HMB" (Historical Medieval Battle). There are singles weapon duels in several forms, melees of 3v3 up to 20v20, and also events like "knight fights" that look like singles MMA duels in armor, involving punching as well as weapon strikes.
Because either you add annoying rules or someone dies. That's why.
Joeon Ren if people like him do it, obvious that shit would be very popular
I really like your tutorials. If you ever get a chance to do more, I would love to see some solo exercises for linking attacks together to maintain initiative. I feel your quick and fluid style would make you very good at that.
The way you move with that sword is the single most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I subscribed instantly.
@The Sword's Path, Thanks so much for making these videos! I've been a fencer for about 15 years, but I have just begun to learn longsword. One of my friends just introduced me to this video series, and I look forward to watching.
One point of curiosity: when you comment that the left foot forward provides a lot of power for the first strike, I challenge you to see if this is true in longsword for both the men and women that you know (assuming both are right handed). Womens' femurs are longer relative to mens' femurs, and this changes the point at which the body is in perfect alignment regarding hip joint socketing during a weapon extension in at least single-handed sword fighting, (so I am curious if it is true for longsword too). This means that righthanded men experience more power naturally with the left foot forward (their bones align in that stance), but righthanded women experience more power naturally with the right foot forward (because of the different angle of their hip socketing). I took a seminar on this concept and was skeptical, but then the teacher had me come forward and throw shots from both stances. I am right handed and was used to left foot forward training. I threw very hard with my left foot forward, but there was difference in sound when I switched to right foot lead. The sound told me I was hitting harder right foot forward. I challenge you to try this with men and women (even beginners) and see if it holds true for longsword.
Whoa, that's something I've never heard of. Could such a dimorphism exist and affect performance in HEMA?
I'll look into it.
Thank you for bringig this issue to my attention!
You're welcome! Thanks for looking into this. My source is the findings of Tobi Beck, who discusses this and a lot of other really neat male/female training philosophy in her book The Armored Rose (on Amazon if you are interested - the book is very useful for both men and women). The seminar I mentioned was taught by her. Please keep me posted :)
Having the right foot forward is actually implemented in German longsword. I've been taught it as a really easy way to get more reach and can trick an opponent into thinking you have less reach than you really do.
Its also common that you take whats called a 'passing step' forward into the strike which utilizes natural body mechanics to get a better hit. So the right foot would be forward when you land the strike.
It is described in manuscripts to my knowledge, i assume from Lichtenaur but id have to ask my teacher.
In the movie Kingdom of Heaven there was a scene when the Baron Ibelin taught his son Balian strike it was called the strike of a Falcon(la fosta de falcone) I Have a question is there really such a blow?
Dude.. You are a the most skilled swordsman i've ever seen
mdhgameplays You need to watch some other videos then...
Maybe you should look for more swordsmen
He might not be the best but he is certainly up there.
He’s just keeping the tradition alive. It is fantastic
Just wathcing these have gotten me into practicing more outside. I'm quite thankful for this broad sword my friend gave me, it feels right at home in my hands.
Pleeeeeease give us more videos. We miss you... :(
My dude, I don't know if you still post, but I remember watching your guard stance videos a few years ago when the Witcher 3, first came out. I freaking love your content: concise, precise and super informative! I still remember the Ox positions after all these years because of you!
One thing I find people forget (I'm not accusing you of this) is the timing in a cut where you are pivoting forward with the intent of using the momentum from your pivot in the cut. Once the right foot (in your case) hits the ground after the pivot, the energy from the pivot is basically gone. I was taught to try to make sure your strike lands just before the right foot hits so you can make use of that energy. When pivoting backwards I don't think there's a need to worry about this as you aren't moving forward.
I don't know about other people, but I'd really like to see you continue this series. I especially want to see more about the low guards..
It's so hard to switch stances especially coming from boxing
Emanuel Nadera not particularly. I box and I practice switching stances. I am naturally ambidextrous however. It gives me an edge in long fights. I usually keep my southpaw concealed until my opponent starts getting used to my rhythm. A simple switch of the feet and now he has to start all over from square one, while I already have him figured out.
In fencing, with a little training and sparring, switching stances based on the situation will become second nature.
Emanuel Nadera It's the mind and the sword. What do you understand about boxing? Understand that first, do not forget your sword.
Bryant Fox you are an ambidextrous boxer???? Lol you have a lot of advantage! To have an adversary that switch from southpaw to right is a NIGHTMARE!!!
I just love the Witcher music cues/tidbits. :D
your pacing is great, no filler! just good info, thank you
Great quick video on the high guards.
As I've said before these videos are great. I've been practicing the techniques you show with every video you post! Thanks for getting me into this.
Thanks for posting all of these videos. They are fantastically instructional.
As far as I understand the terminology Ox is with your front arm near your ear and your rear hand beyond your head. The stance you are showing is called by Meyer "unicorn"
Znowu świetna robota, i jak mowiłem wcześniej, mega ciekawy pomysł na kanał. Keep'em comin' !!!
2:20 Dafuq
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WAAAAAAAA
Some comments from that video in the mentioned channel are saying it is like a "attack until opponent is dead without regard for your own life" style fighting.
These videos are FANTASTIC!! So much great information THANK YOU!
I watched one video and I immediately subscribed your swordsmanship Is absolutely amazing I have learned so much from you and you are an inspiration to me
Thanks a lot! I just want to learn more and more so keep them coming, and thanks again
I'll keep slaying !
Really enjoying these. Looking forward to more releases.
Favorite chanell on youtube seriously you are amazing and explanatory, also in witcher 3 when you are defending you can watch how geralt goes from left ochs (defending) when you walk backwards to right ochs (attacking) when you move forward my god the details are batshit crazy in this game now that I know a bit more about sword techniques!!!
2:08 the noice I make when I find out there are no eggrolls and found out who ate them
I completely lost it when he started screaming
You are so skillful and great with swords.
Dude, your videos are awesome, how come you're not huge on youtube yet!? Those witcher videos should be reaping views and subs like crazy. Keep up the good work
Honestly, if I were you, the sound effect I would use to accompany each lesson/step would be the quest update sound effect (also used if you get a new quest, are given a new item, glossary updated, and some other things) rather than the quest completed sound effect. You should reserve that for the end of the video once everything is done.
Mistrzostwo świata Drogi Panie!
Ten kanał to kolejny genialny, ciągnący powód do odwiedzenia Wioski Fantasy.
Wreszcie muszę się tam wybrać! I nie mogę doczekać się kolejnego filmu!
Planuję w niedługim czasie zakup miecza. Może masz kowala którego warto polecić?
+Custodis Sudol
Jan Chodkiewicz, Pavel Moc. Jeśli szukasz czegoś z górnej półki cenowej, to Wojciech Szanek lub Albion Swords. :)
Pozdrawiam!
You should take a look into the "Fior di Battaglia" it shows 3 aditional ones: the guard of the Lady, High Guard of the Lady and left guard of the lady.
I love that you've studied kenjutsu and see the resemblance in both styles. I just want to know why you chose HEMA to be your art in the end; did you identify with it more?
Your haircut... It's growing on me, I like it. I like your videos even more, keep up the great content :D
Keep them coming! This videos are very good for newbies!
Now that's what I call a great opening scene. Awesome!! Sword on the back.......and the ponytail :D
The form on the left Ochs is a bit off. It's actually off the same use and application as the right one. Also it's usually not held with a vertical guard but like you held the right Ochs with a horizontal guard.
You certainly have impressive speed and power so don't take this the wrong way, you are obviously an experienced fencer but the form to me personally is the most important aspect and should be considered above power and speed of execution.
Thank you for this comment. That is a valid point you're making!
But.
I have considered the horizontal Left Ochs and could never find any use for it in full contact sparring. I have been using the vertical one successfully for years; it is also far more beginner-friendly as a defensive guard.
Power and speed are imperative, as they verify the form. Let people fence freely at full speed for a few years, and they will develop techniques and forms. Make them observe perfect forms in slow motion and they will never know if they are actually useful. Consider HEMA before and after Kohutovic's videos.
Science over belief!
Of course the horizontal Ochs may work for other people. I just find it suboptimal for my uses and made the conscious decision of teaching the way that I know how to apply instead of speculating.
That of course is a philosophical discussion. If you believe, that historic manuals are not needed to develop effective tournament fighting styles, you are probably right. But if you want to study historical martial arts, with the focus to reconstruct a live-death battle of sword combatants, you are bound to what is delivered in the scriptures.
Tournaments and sparring can never be a valid, realistic or useful simulation of real world live-death combat. Therefore focusing on techniques and execution based on sparring/tournament performance will ultimately leave you with a subset, a specialized version of sword combat, that is not representative of the historic instructions.
That is fine of course if that is your goal. But you should not forfeit what the old masters have said and claim to know what technique is better as a fact in defending your life, because you don't know unless you've done that... hopefully no one of us will ever have to do that. :)
+Waldgeist
Actually, it's not philosophical at all.
Mair: grauenwolf.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/image42.png
Talhoffer: grauenwolf.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/image39.png
Meyer: grauenwolf.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/image_thumb1.png?w=590&h=484
Codex Wallerstein: www.hroarr.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/wallerstein-03.jpg
Ringeck: grauenwolf.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/image18.png
Never fence based only on images. In the descriptions many of the masters describe that the Ochs is the "end position" of the Twerhau. And how do you swing a Twer to end in a vertical position?
And a bit of discussion based on the original texts on how to hold the Ochs: www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?74784-How-to-hold-Ochs
In the Anglo-Saxon region you'll find it's being held vertically quite often, due to the strong influence of people like John 'FlatOnMyStrong' Clements. In the German speaking regions and most German clubs its held horizontally, because they've read - and can naturally understand - the text and follow the advise of the masters as written in the prose.
So It is as many things in HEMA a discussion topic, though I'd always err on the side of the written text instead of the images (which are highly problematic because they were not painted by fencers, but by artists and within the limitations of their skill and the traditions of their time, which sometimes produced horrible renditions of posture, that were totally wrong and not matching the text).
Thanks for the great tips and video!
Mam do Ciebie takie dwa pytanka:
1)Gdzie nauczyłeś się władać mieczem (tj. gdzie zaczynałeś)?
2)Czy mógłbyś polecić jak najlepiej rozpocząć swoją przygodę z drogą miecza?
+kubix025 Cześć!
Zaczynałem od obserwowania mistrza w akcji i prób naśladowania go. ;)
Potem trenowałem w małej sekcji szermierczej prowadzonej w Lublinie. W związku z licznymi przeprowadzkami, zmieniałem grupy i sekcje, ucząc się różnych systemów walki bronią białą.
Jak najlepiej zacząć? Znaleźć nauczyciela lub szkołę, a jeśli się nie da - zebrać grupę ludzi, z którymi będziesz mógł trenować. Oczywiście można też przygotowywać się samotnie, ale sparring jest niezbędny do prawidłowej nauki.
Polecam również kanał +Kuba Potocki - ruclips.net/user/Rilsir - znajdziesz tam wiele cennych wskazówek dla początkujących!
This is my third time watching this video, it's made brilliantly.
Awesome videos! Keep up the great work and thank you!
Thank you! That was very useful and motivating :}
Panie, niniejszym zagnałeś mą krągłą personę do treningów!
COOL. Thank You Sir. Sweet and Simple. Very Nicely Done. ***cheers*** =)
Do you practice arming sword too? I'm a bit surprised about the popularity of the longsword; not that it would be bad or boring. It's just that the arming sword was probably more comon and there are plenty of different possibilities (combination with dagger, buckler, shield). Moreover, I haven't seen much about the guards used there.
I know you probably wont but this video series is really helping me and it would be great if you continued it thankyou so much and do you know any good german long deord books that are good that would be really helpful thanks
His voice is amazing.
that sword looks awesome
Thanks for uploading
Netflix robi castingi na postacie do serialu. Mam prośbę wyślij im swoje filmiki. Geraltem nie zostaniesz ale....kto wie może jednym z wiedzminòw. :)
Znasz język angielski polski masz umiejętności władania mieczem, kamera cię lubi etc.
Do you do any sword and buckler? I'd love to see a video on that.
Great vid thank you!
I'v been using this left "ox" stance for years in LARP fights where thrust is mostly forbiden and getting good results with it even as an in-experienced fighter or against far beter ones :D
didn't even know how it's called :p
My friend, it has been four weeks, I'm waiting to learn more from you. I need to keep slying, which is not an easy job without instruction =)
It's like a baseball grip, compared to epe or saber. Interesting.
Hi. I'm curious as to where you get your info. I've been training in HEMA and we do some things vastly different. Here, for example, I noticed how you said that the left ox was a purely defensive stance. I couldn't disagree more. Also, with the low guards you said the fool's guard to the side was a part of the fool's guard, but we know it as the "schrankhut". Forgive me, I'm NOT trying to downsize your video. I'm just curious where the difference originated.
Hello Gabe!
I get my info from the very same sources as you do, it's just our interpretations that differ. I've had this exact same discussion before under this very video. :)
Left ox is defensive IN MY EXPERIENCE. Offensive work from that guard never really worked for me, but I could defend excellently while employing it. Thus, for me it's a great defensive device; while your experience may vastly differ.
As for Schrankhut, in my opinion it's so similiar to the Fool's Guard (it allows for easier Krumphau, yes, but functionally it's the same) that for the sake of clarity I'd rather call it "Alber to the side" rather than introduce another name. Same for Nebenhut aka the Rear Fool's Guard aka Waki-no-kamae.
Hope I've explained myself well enough. :)
Awesome!
Great swords!
Why are saying that the left ox is purely defensive? As far as I remember, a lot of sources mention attacks like thrusts and cuts from the left ox.
He means from his experience it works well with as mostly a defensive stance. (He's said this a few times).
This is what he says: "The left one is purely defensive".
It might be a detail to some people, but I think in HEMA the devil often lies in the details. It's good to find out what works best for oneself. But then we must always go back to the manuals to check if we're not creating something new instead of discovering and recreating the old arts.
This is a very cool introduction to the high guards. Good for beginners. That's why such a detail bugs me, because it's teaching people something wrong.
Hi Buddy, your Video series is just awesome. IMHO one of the best aspects is to see your bright enthusiasm about sword fighting. It's obvious that you do a lot of research in the various styles and systems. What i learned from THIS particular Video is that the left Ochs has defensive Charakter... wasn't Aware of this, but when you explain, it makes sense. By the way: i learned a lot from a DVD called "Langes Schwert" (Liechtenhauer) from Agilitas.tv. Do ya know this? Well done.Cheers, Erik
I seen that high guard in Witcher 1
because witcher 1 is the best witcher game if we are talking about swords.
BEST ASMR
Keep up the good work!
I watched both this and the low guard video, this is something really want to get into. I have a question though, since I am left handed, should I practice differently or should I start out practicing as if I'm right handed? P.S I love your videos dude
Just inverse all of my stances. The general rule is that your dominant hand should be under the crossguard.
Thanks man, keep up the great videos
great Videos! Keep them coming please ;)
I have a curious inquiry : why not talk about the Wrath guard (zornhut) ?
I understand it is not a traditionally defensive one, yet provides opportunities for strong deflections and followups (from what I understand, reading the traductions of the Gründtliche Beschreibung der Kunst des Fechtens).
I am confused since I had to practice it a lot and am very surprised, that it is absent from your presentation.
PS : Your videos are very nice. (I watched the last ones, and the production value you put into it are top)
I tried to keep it simple, and stick to guards I use the most. Not a big fan of Zornhut / Posta di Donna. :)
Joclan-no kamae wrong.Face full openly to strike them. The essence of this Kamae - not just go in attacking position, but also to protect the head - of the handle. Therefore, the "apple" of the sword and bottom of handle should be at eye level, protecting them.
Maan you should keep making videos :(
Could you make a series of instructional videos on saiooborone with a two-handed sword
2:10 when you have to wake up for anything ever
What kind of longsword is this? I own one already, but I am looking for one with a scentstopper pommel and a longer grip. This one fits the bill! Other suggestions would be appreciated as well.
Can you do more of this type of content
My cousin and I were inspired by your channel. We still fight, but whatever happened to your channel?
Hey, where did you go?
DAT FOOTWORK!!!
Wouldn't you be able to use the handshake grip and thumb grip for both Ochs guards?
Can you do one of how to run with a sword and a idle stance please and a walk?
so where are the videos where you go from the guards to a more elaborate explanation about defending and attacking options out of each of them?
I learned a lot. Can you please tell me what sword that is? And can you also send me a link of where I can get it please?
You prefer to fight twohanded and without shield?
if im left handed, left ox is offensive?
What are the sword's specs and what it is made of? I had made a short sword out of a generic steel bar...so it is kind of cheap. I would like to make something bigger that would fit my 5,5 feet tall.
0:35 Did you just fucking spin?
Th0ughtm0nger Yes, yes he did
A possible Witcher influence....good or bad depending on how skilled you are... :D
Zed Zamorin Typically a bad move. Nothing but flashy show.
Actually he made a move where he claims a spin could be realistic. It is where you strike the enemy, regardless of whether or not they block it gives you enough time to leap with a quick spin cut.
It's still kind of flashy show though, not really anything practical other then achieving "glory."
we need more video))
I know this video is quite old, but for a left-handed swordsman, would I be better to just learn right handed and cope or just mirror everything (such as right foot forward instead of left)? Thanks for these videos :)
Mirror it
Ah, thank you very much!
This is awesome. You are very good swordsman. Please you are continue in to do. Excuse my english. I am begginer :D
Thank you!
What's your native language? I may be able to respond.
+The Sword's Path V tom případě dobrá práce a pokračuj v tom co děláš. Už se nemůžu dočkat až vydáš další video :D
Uz skoro bude dalsi z Zaklinace. :)
Bravo
BRAVO BRAVO LOVE U MAN ....LOVE U ....BRAVO .......U ARE SO GOOD AND U VIDEO........!! MORE VIDEO BRAVO
thanks a lot.
Would you mind to name some moves from swordfight?
Really funny video, thank you for that! You almost had me fooled to bea master of sword fighting. For beginners in medieval fighting (1-hand, 2-hand, montante, quarterstaff) I recommend to check out the following channels: Skallagrim (tournaments, cut drill, explanations), Björn Rüther (very nice 2-hand, montante), Ilkka Hartikainen (bolognese 1-hand), zequalszero Figueiredo's (16 Simple Rules for the Montante) and Dreynschlag (nice tutorials in multiple weapon forms)
hey could you make a video on what left handed people should do? thanks man..
YourHeartIsTheKey Basically do the opposite. If you have your sword on your left shoulder, your left foot is behind you right one, so you can give your strike more power if you step into it
I hate that we have only one guard. Instinctivly I use three more but, I have to get back to the starting position asap.
Take postures only as reference. Motion is gold, flowing is better, remaining still is a deathwish
Aim to be faster, even if it requieres a little sloppyness here and there.
I always called it inverted high instead of ox guard
Where did you learn how to use a sword?
Thx you ! I've learn a lot from your channel :)) you are incarnate of Geralt of rivia ! Ha ha
Do you have a book or videos for sale ?
Kingdom of Heaven....that is the first guard Orlando Bloom learns until he goes all Gary Stu and becomes an expert warrior and siege engineer almost overnight...
where did you shoot this video?
do you miss your red power ranger times?
Wasn't it the white one with the ponytail? :D
Please tell me you are on the new Witcher series
Siemka, dało by się kilka odcinków zrobić po polsku ? xD