Such a trip. This world , this life is such a beautiful blessing while @ the same time being such torture . Knowing every minute that you’re living you are dying and that You will always lose everyone You Love. Such torment .
Correction sport's period. Not huge in baseball but I would watch Nolan anytime I could as a kid. Got to see him live once at old municipal stadium in cleveland
@@kingdingaling2469 you get to see a few true legends as a kid if your lucky the entire 90s Indians roster are legends to me but to everyone I can't say. I've seen anyone other than Nolan. I did get to witness Dumbass Brandon Weeden get stuck under the American flag his first start as an adult that was legendary in a bad way 😂😂😂
J.R.Richard,who pitched for the Houston Astros from 1971-1980,deserves to be mentioned among the great flame-throwers who ever played the game.At 6'8'' his release point was close to the batter like Randy Johnson was. He was clocked at 100mph,and twice struck out over 300 hitters over a season.Definitely a pitched who,like Rich Gossage,would instill fear into a big league hitter.A stroke put an end to what was shaping up to be a brilliant career and is why he is largely forgotten by most except those who followed the game when he played.Tremendous loss.
Always remembered going to Yankees / Angels game with my older brother in the late 70's. Ryan was on the hill. We were sitting in the upper deck in RF and at one point midgame my brother says; "Can u hear him???" I'm wondering what's the hell he was talking about then he said " Listen..." as he pointed towards the field... I could hear almost what sounded like a yell...It was Ryan releasing that Fastball...Never forgot that, never will...
That was so awesome - thanks for putting this together - I grew up in so cal during 60' - 80's and got to see Nolan Ryan pitch - what an experience - you thought every time he pitched he would get a No-No. I remember the Angels when they got another flame-thrower Frank Tannana - The slogan was Tannana and Ryan then start cryin'
Glad to hear Billy Wagner's name, and from none other than the "Ryan Express". I was at a game where Wagner was steadily hitting 103 mph like it was nothing. An amazing sight.
I remember him being the definition of a “live arm” when I was younger. Can’t believe he was born a righty and still can throw a fastball lefty that hard.
And He did it close to 2 decades before Chapman , so easily 2 decades before there were more than 2 Pitchers in MLB doing it @ the same time. Old Lefty Billy Wagner does get forgotten and I too I’m very Glad to see Him here He most definitely deserves to be remembered more in MLB . I wonder if He’s just a Guy that prefers to be left alone , because otherwise You’d hear more about Him more often because I do not remember ever hearing of Him getting in any trouble after His career ended. I could be wrong.
What a great documentary!!! Of course some notable pitchers were omitted, as some posters noted, but the authors still performed a superb job in this offering. A few things about Walter Johnson's measured speed with the old army test (which was fine for its time) - during that test, (1) he pitched in street shoes, (2) threw on flat ground, and (3) was not warmed up. Many decades ago, using one of the first generation baseball radar guns comparing its registered speeds against a reconstructed measuring device like the one filmed in the documentary, it was found that the old device consistently recorded speeds slower than the radar gun by 4 to 5 mph. So, I would say adding an additional velocity of 4 mph to Johnson's release would be justified (with not even considering (1) through (3) above). When Bob Feller entered the Major Leagues, many old timers compared his fastball to that of Walter Johnson. Kind of like cops who have seen plenty of speeding cars, and from that experience, can properly judge the speed of any other car.
Truly spectacular video. Could be my favorite Baseball video of all time. I know time was limited but if there was anyone I would have added it would have been Sam McDowell.
There was a lot not covered by this production that baseball people know but the producers may not have known or weren't interested. First, was that the motion of pitchers like Chapman, Ryan, Gooden, Johnson and Verlander etc. has them launching themselves towards the plate and reducing the distance that the ball travels from their release point making the time the hitter sees the ball in flight shorter. Especially Gooden and Chapman with a long and lanky build release their fastball close to the front edge of the mound, (see Chapman @ 1:24:11) closer to the hitter than most other pitchers - a definite advantage. It's not just throwing "as hard as you can" but HOW you throw it. Second, there's no mention about the work by Angels pitching coach Tom Morgan in the spring of '72 to refine Nolan Ryan's mechanics and improving Ryan's control. It wasn't just Ryan's "competitiveness" that made him a better pitcher, it was the right coaching that he didn't get when he was with the Mets. www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-01-18-sp-5477-story.html Third, measuring pitch speed at just past the release point is an easy out by the non-baseball "experts", what counts is the speed and location as the hitter commits to swinging. Fourth, the location of the pitching rubber isn't so "weird". In 1893 the flat pitcher's "box" was replaced with the mound and rubber at the longer 60' 6" distance TO INCREASE HITTING/RUN PRODUCTION - bosoxinjection.com/2013/12/13/pitching-mound-history/ If the desired outcome didn't happen, there would have been more changes to the distance. Remember, the film makers need to find a new hook to make this 'interesting", this goes along with omitting important (less entertaining) details like the influence of proper coaching to tame the wildness of Koufax and Ryan and others. Overall, this is an entertaining production but is flawed also.
I don't understand your third point. Well I do get what you're saying but isn't measuring the speed of the ball at its highest velocity the standard across baseball? Isn't that how its measured when scouts use their radar guns? When youre watching a game on TV and see the speed of the pitch flash on the screen?
The point where it’s best to measure velocity is irrelevant. If you’re going to compare the velocities then they need to be measured from the same spot. Either from 50’ from the rubber or just out of the pitchers hand. I do also agree that certain things weren’t discussed here but I don’t really think any of them were largely relevant.
I can remember seeing Goose Gossage and Terry Forster as Rookies for the White Sox. The catcher's glove was so loud when the ball exploded in its pocket as they warmed up in the bullpen. The Goose was feared then and Forster was not far behind him. I was awestruck!
I was at the game in Phoenix when J.R. Richard started his comeback after the stroke. The minor league stadium was packed early and there were still so many cars arriving that the game was delayed over an hour because J.R. was caught in traffic. I suspect there would have been a riot if they tried to start without him. His outing was unimpressive...just an ordinary pitcher now. He was never the same again.
Being a B-more native, Dalko stories were legendary. Not unheard of to hear speeds of 115-120 mph and from the likes of Cal Ripken Sr. My favorite Dalko story is when he faced Ted Williams in spring training and Teddy just shook his head, said he didn't even see the ball and left the batters box.
39:22 this is such an interesting documentary and so happy this is up on RUclips for free as there’s CASTELLANOS with a deep drive to left making it a one run ballgame
I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn't trust that method and accuracy at all. Plus on flat ground and in dress shirts, pants and shoes. Pitchers use the mound to push off. The method used for Bob Feller is 10x better. Even that has flaws.
Think about Howard Johnsons measured pitch. No one figured the measuring process into the equation. Using copper wire to measure a metal projectile is one thing. Measuring a leather and twine covered ball is something different. Imagine how much velocity was lost when the baseball struck the wire at the release of the ball. That has to reduce the speed by 15 -20mph
Goose Gossage actually sounds like a reasonable human being in this doc. In the past several years, he’s come across as an old blow hard, ranting about the unwritten rules of the game and yelling at clouds from his front lawn.
Gotta say- Walter Johnson had the worst pitching mechanics I've ever seen. Amazing his arm didn't come flying off! Amazing he could throw so hard. Also agree that Dalkowski was the fastest ever, so said Earl Weaver and Tom Sever. His numbers were staggering but his life story after baseball is heart breaking. All fans should read up on him. And, yeah where was Randy Johnson? Can't believe Ryans fastest pitch recorded came in the ninth inning on ball number 150. Lets see Chapman do that! I'd bet Nolan threw plenty more balls faster than that during his career that were just never clocked. Great video!
Regarding Billy Wagner: He was innately right- handed; then, at some point in time (probably late adolescence or early adulthood) he irreparably injured his right arm. Astonishingly -- and much to his credit -- he taught himself to throw left- handed, regularly attaining a pitching velocity of 100+ miles per hour. TALK ABOUT GRIT AND DETERMINATION! (By the way, Wagner *was not ambidexterous*.)
I Love Baseball ⚾️ 💨 The Fastball really is Mythological . I like the Knuckleball movie I really enjoyed it There’s nothing like a really legit Uncle Charlie that snaps 🫰 But The Fastball …. The Fastball is of Mythology proportions . The HR is a beautiful sight & Chicks Dig The LongBall But The Fastball is what it’s all about. I Love to “ see “ some legit gas ⚾️ 💨 I remember the 1st time I saw Chapman , I drove from Vegas to San Diego for Reds @ Padres and there really hasn’t been anything like the anticipation of seeing the hardest thrower we’ve ever seen or the hardest thrower since Nolan Ryan and when We can document everything so detailed that We know Aroldis was threw the fastest recorded pitch ever . But since then it has come back around that Nolan still most likely has thrown the fastest pitch ever and I can believe , I can agree with that and as much as I’d like to say I saw the fastest pitcher ever I can easily agree that Nolan Ryan threw and most consistently threw the hardest. Nolan Grunt 💨
Bro this Trump was speaking facts tho😂😂 "THE HUDSON RIVER USED TO BE FILLED WITH WATER, NOW IS FILLED OF FENTANYL" 😂😂 who eve thats been in ny these days knows
RIP to so many great men who were in this documentary, Hank, Al, Joe, Bob you guys were all a pleasure to watch.
Such a trip.
This world , this life is such a beautiful blessing while @ the same time being such torture .
Knowing every minute that you’re living you are dying
and that You will always lose everyone You Love. Such torment .
I was fascinated with every second of this video
By, not with.
Great Documentary.Any Fan on Baseballs history should watch
Correction sport's period. Not huge in baseball but I would watch Nolan anytime I could as a kid. Got to see him live once at old municipal stadium in cleveland
I DID TOO IN CLEVELAND.
@@NobodyUR Nice ! 👍🏾
@@watchout361 You too ??! Nice! 👍🏾
@@kingdingaling2469 you get to see a few true legends as a kid if your lucky the entire 90s Indians roster are legends to me but to everyone I can't say. I've seen anyone other than Nolan.
I did get to witness Dumbass Brandon Weeden get stuck under the American flag his first start as an adult that was legendary in a bad way 😂😂😂
J.R.Richard,who pitched for the Houston Astros from 1971-1980,deserves to be mentioned among the great flame-throwers who ever played the game.At 6'8'' his release point was close to the batter like Randy Johnson was. He was clocked at 100mph,and twice struck out over 300 hitters over a season.Definitely a pitched who,like Rich Gossage,would instill fear into a big league hitter.A stroke put an end to what was shaping up to be a brilliant career and is why he is largely forgotten by most except those who followed the game when he played.Tremendous loss.
Forgotten great
Agreed on that! JR is seldom mentioned in any documentaries 😔
Always remembered going to Yankees / Angels game with my older brother in the late 70's. Ryan was on the hill. We were sitting in the upper deck in RF and at one point midgame my brother says; "Can u hear him???" I'm wondering what's the hell he was talking about then he said " Listen..." as he pointed towards the field... I could hear almost what sounded like a yell...It was Ryan releasing that Fastball...Never forgot that, never will...
😄 My comment a posted on this video @ the very end it finishes with
“ The Nolan Grunt 💨 “ 😁 Legendary
So many legends in this movie. Freaking awesome hearing stories from the best
Saw Nolan’s last big league win. It was at Cleveland Municipal Stadium and he was throwing gas! Best fastball pitcher I’ve ever seen. I’m 65 yrs old
Wow! Born in 45 and a lifetime of baseball - knew most of these guys. The greatest game!
That was so awesome - thanks for putting this together - I grew up in so cal during 60' - 80's and got to see Nolan Ryan pitch - what an experience - you thought every time he pitched he would get a No-No. I remember the Angels when they got another flame-thrower Frank Tannana - The slogan was Tannana and Ryan then start cryin'
Henry Aaron was a wonderful human being who also happened to be one of the best baseball players of all time.
I highly recommend “Knuckleball” as a documentary, the antidote to this one.
A must watch for any baseball fan. Truly a masterpiece.
“Knuckleball” is a masterpiece, this one is just okay.
Glad to hear Billy Wagner's name, and from none other than the "Ryan Express". I was at a game where Wagner was steadily hitting 103 mph like it was nothing. An amazing sight.
I remember him being the definition of a “live arm” when I was younger. Can’t believe he was born a righty and still can throw a fastball lefty that hard.
And He did it close to 2 decades before Chapman , so easily 2 decades before there were more than 2 Pitchers in MLB doing it @ the same time.
Old Lefty Billy Wagner does get forgotten and I too I’m very Glad to see Him here
He most definitely deserves to be remembered more in MLB .
I wonder if He’s just a Guy that prefers to be left alone , because otherwise You’d hear more about Him more often because I do not remember ever hearing of Him getting in any trouble after His career ended. I could be wrong.
I remember watching a game where Wagner threw 103mph and couldn’t help but be amazed at what I witnessed as a kid. Crazy stuff
What a great documentary!!! Of course some notable pitchers were omitted, as some posters noted, but the authors still performed a superb job in this offering. A few things about Walter Johnson's measured speed with the old army test (which was fine for its time) - during that test, (1) he pitched in street shoes, (2) threw on flat ground, and (3) was not warmed up. Many decades ago, using one of the first generation baseball radar guns comparing its registered speeds against a reconstructed measuring device like the one filmed in the documentary, it was found that the old device consistently recorded speeds slower than the radar gun by 4 to 5 mph. So, I would say adding an additional velocity of 4 mph to Johnson's release would be justified (with not even considering (1) through (3) above).
When Bob Feller entered the Major Leagues, many old timers compared his fastball to that of Walter Johnson. Kind of like cops who have seen plenty of speeding cars, and from that experience, can properly judge the speed of any other car.
Wonder how my post got dropped down to the bottom so fast. Oh well. Life goes on.
Pretty cool Forrest Gump effects with Verlander at the beginning
“Well there’s no mystery what he’s gonna throw here.” That’s classic.
One question...where was Randy Johnson?
Really wonderful. Ticks all my sport soul boxes. Thank you so much
Truly spectacular video. Could be my favorite Baseball video of all time. I know time was limited but if there was anyone I would have added it would have been Sam McDowell.
There was a lot not covered by this production that baseball people know but the producers may not have known or weren't interested.
First, was that the motion of pitchers like Chapman, Ryan, Gooden, Johnson and Verlander etc. has them launching themselves towards the plate and reducing the distance that the ball travels from their release point making the time the hitter sees the ball in flight shorter. Especially Gooden and Chapman with a long and lanky build release their fastball close to the front edge of the mound, (see Chapman @ 1:24:11) closer to the hitter than most other pitchers - a definite advantage. It's not just throwing "as hard as you can" but HOW you throw it.
Second, there's no mention about the work by Angels pitching coach Tom Morgan in the spring of '72 to refine Nolan Ryan's mechanics and improving Ryan's control. It wasn't just
Ryan's "competitiveness" that made him a better pitcher, it was the right coaching that he didn't get when he was with the Mets. www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-01-18-sp-5477-story.html
Third, measuring pitch speed at just past the release point is an easy out by the non-baseball "experts", what counts is the speed and location as the hitter commits to swinging.
Fourth, the location of the pitching rubber isn't so "weird". In 1893 the flat pitcher's "box" was replaced with the mound and rubber at the longer 60' 6" distance TO INCREASE HITTING/RUN PRODUCTION - bosoxinjection.com/2013/12/13/pitching-mound-history/ If the desired outcome didn't happen, there would have been more changes
to the distance.
Remember, the film makers need to find a new hook to make this 'interesting", this goes along with omitting important (less entertaining) details like the influence of proper coaching
to tame the wildness of Koufax and Ryan and others.
Overall, this is an entertaining production but is flawed also.
I don't understand your third point. Well I do get what you're saying but isn't measuring the speed of the ball at its highest velocity the standard across baseball? Isn't that how its measured when scouts use their radar guns? When youre watching a game on TV and see the speed of the pitch flash on the screen?
Well, wiedep, ain't you an effin baseball Einstein!
Nolan Ryan actually helped Randy Johnson with his mechanics also early in his career when he had control issues.
The point where it’s best to measure velocity is irrelevant. If you’re going to compare the velocities then they need to be measured from the same spot. Either from 50’ from the rubber or just out of the pitchers hand. I do also agree that certain things weren’t discussed here but I don’t really think any of them were largely relevant.
I can remember seeing Goose Gossage and Terry Forster as Rookies for the White Sox. The catcher's glove was so loud when the ball exploded in its pocket as they warmed up in the bullpen. The Goose was feared then and Forster was not far behind him. I was awestruck!
absolutely enthralling !!!
Who couldn’t be passionate about Baseball? God, what a sport.
I was at the game in Phoenix when J.R. Richard started his comeback after the stroke. The minor league stadium was packed early and there were still so many cars arriving that the game was delayed over an hour because J.R. was caught in traffic. I suspect there would have been a riot if they tried to start without him.
His outing was unimpressive...just an ordinary pitcher now. He was never the same again.
Steve Dalkowski may have been the fastest. Too bad he never made it to the big leagues.
Being a B-more native, Dalko stories were legendary. Not unheard of to hear speeds of 115-120 mph and from the likes of Cal Ripken Sr. My favorite Dalko story is when he faced Ted Williams in spring training and Teddy just shook his head, said he didn't even see the ball and left the batters box.
39:22 this is such an interesting documentary and so happy this is up on RUclips for free as there’s CASTELLANOS with a deep drive to left making it a one run ballgame
Shows what Bob Feller always said, he threw as hard as Ryan, not quite but as close as anybody
With the way that Walter Johnson's pitch was tested, wouldn't there also need to be an adjustment made for the ball hitting the wire(s)?
Yeah that’s what I was thinking
Thought the same thing. Probably around 95mph depending on how strong those wires where.
I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn't trust that method and accuracy at all. Plus on flat ground and in dress shirts, pants and shoes. Pitchers use the mound to push off. The method used for Bob Feller is 10x better. Even that has flaws.
Good point. See my reply above.
Walter Johnson throwing 94mph in church clothes is insane
Think about Howard Johnsons measured pitch. No one figured the measuring process into the equation. Using copper wire to measure a metal projectile is one thing. Measuring a leather and twine covered ball is something different.
Imagine how much velocity was lost when the baseball struck the wire at the release of the ball. That has to reduce the speed by 15 -20mph
See my reply above.
Goose Gossage actually sounds like a reasonable human being in this doc. In the past several years, he’s come across as an old blow hard, ranting about the unwritten rules of the game and yelling at clouds from his front lawn.
Gotta say- Walter Johnson had the worst pitching mechanics I've ever seen. Amazing his arm didn't come flying off! Amazing he could throw so hard. Also agree that Dalkowski was the fastest ever, so said Earl Weaver and Tom Sever. His numbers were staggering but his life story after baseball is heart breaking. All fans should read up on him. And, yeah where was Randy Johnson? Can't believe Ryans fastest pitch recorded came in the ninth inning on ball number 150. Lets see Chapman do that! I'd bet Nolan threw plenty more balls faster than that during his career that were just never clocked. Great video!
Regarding Billy Wagner: He was innately right- handed; then, at some point in time (probably late adolescence or early adulthood) he irreparably injured his right arm. Astonishingly -- and much to his credit -- he taught himself to throw left- handed, regularly attaining a pitching velocity of 100+ miles per hour. TALK ABOUT GRIT AND DETERMINATION! (By the way, Wagner *was not ambidexterous*.)
The umpire doesn't say "play ball". he says "play"
Great stuff
In my lifetime its hard to beat Nolan Ryan as the most consistently fast and intimidating flame thrower.
I Love Baseball ⚾️ 💨
The Fastball really is Mythological .
I like the Knuckleball movie I really enjoyed it
There’s nothing like a really legit Uncle Charlie that snaps 🫰
But The Fastball …. The Fastball is of Mythology proportions .
The HR is a beautiful sight & Chicks Dig The LongBall
But The Fastball is what it’s all about. I Love to “ see “ some legit gas ⚾️ 💨
I remember the 1st time I saw Chapman , I drove from Vegas to San Diego for Reds @ Padres
and there really hasn’t been anything like the anticipation of seeing the hardest thrower we’ve ever seen or the hardest thrower since Nolan Ryan and when We can document everything so detailed that We know Aroldis was threw the fastest recorded pitch ever .
But since then it has come back around that Nolan still most likely has thrown the fastest pitch ever
and I can believe , I can agree with that and as much as I’d like to say I saw the fastest pitcher ever
I can easily agree that Nolan Ryan threw and most consistently threw the hardest. Nolan Grunt 💨
It's funny how pitchers don't believe that baseballs rise, but batters do... Maybe a difference in perspective here?
I know it sounds silly but, there are guys that throw fast and there are guys who throw HARD!!!
45:26 probably the same scientists who claim we went to the moon..
Jowly Zumaya’s downfall was so unfortunate, random and preventable.
It's a shame that Ryan didn't go into Cooperstown as a Angel, after all it was rhe Angels where he found his groove.
How do you lead the league in ERA and strikeouts but don’t get a Cy Young?! Ever get one!
Not a fan but this was amazing!
Benson Phiri
NOLAN RYAN THE GREATEST!! HE HAD NO RUN SUPPORT!!
Aroldis is the speed king - for one inning, that is. But could he throw 100 mph for 9 innings?
No he’d hurt his arm
That's why he's a closer.
❤️🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro this Trump was speaking facts tho😂😂 "THE HUDSON RIVER USED TO BE FILLED WITH WATER, NOW IS FILLED OF FENTANYL" 😂😂 who eve thats been in ny these days knows
Only real boys know why he was called goose
Yo I got hit with a 70 mph pitch broke my collarbone then I was out for the season now I’m on my high school team
19:00 Country Hardball??.. gtfoh!
Today's speed guns are as juiced as today's baseballs. MLB will do anything to get attention cause it makes more money.