"he makes Darkstalker have a breakdown using a marble" idk why I found that funny, also amazing art 4rcane :D I've never really thought much about this ship so I don't have much of a opinion on it :D
I find it really ironic that the way Kinkajou treated Turtle felt exactly like how’d she treat any other friend during book 9 to me lol. She acts like a fun-loving loyal friend then turns around and goes “I love you Turtle”, and it just comes off so unnatural compared to how she behaves the rest of the book (I get that could be deliberate since it’s a love spell but it just seems silly). To be honest I think she has more chemistry with Moon during the book.
As soon as Anemone spoke that spell, I really wanted the twist to be that the spell made her like him less because she already liked him more than he liked her to begin with. But it didn’t really seem that way how it played out, it really seems like she didn’t change her behavior at all.
no i can Definity tell an immediate difference after the spell. maybe you dont see the difference? but she Definity talks to him differently in her own bubbly way
Personally I really enjoy the idea of Kinkajou actually being aromantic. She just gives me this vibe of well... romanticizing romance...? Like it's more of a fairytale to her: something she enjoys imagining and hearing about but not something that really applies to her reality?
@@giant-enemy-spider Moon didn't know her until they went to school so it doesn't really fit in this particular context of talking about her upbringing in the rainforest
honestly, I think Winter x Kinkajou is way more likely at this point for a few reasons 1. Kinkajou has always had a crush on Winter 2. Kinkaou has been helping Winter since the Epilogue of Darkness of Dragons 3. Turtle doesn't mention Kinkajou whatsoever in the epilogue. Not how she would feel, not how she would act, we don't even see her with Queen Glory in Book 14. 4. Kinkajou still feels a bit uncomfortable around Turtle because of the spell. She mentions this in the Epilogue of Book 10, saying she still can't tell what's real and what was the spell, but saying that she thinks she likes him about as much as Sloths and Anemone's crush on Tamarin 5. As mentioned here, they try to hang out more and see if the feelings are real. However, as mentioned in Point 3, Kinkajou is neither seen with Turtle or Mentioned by him in Arc 3, leading me to infer that things didn't work out. Now I don't hate the ship. I just don't think that it worked out.
I know this is almost a year old but if it was winter x kinkajou and qibli x moon, who would end up with turtle? Maybe umber but umber has a crush on qibli
Everyone always says that they hope Turtlejou becomes canon, and you know, that’s fine. Everyone has their ships. But I personally hope it DOSEN’T become canon not just because any love for Turtle Kinkajou had was artificial (even tho that’s one of the main reason) but I also kind of like the message that love doesn’t always work out, no matter how much you want it to. And you can’t make them love you. I thought it was cool how Turtle accepted that as hard as it was for him. It probably is gonna become canon anyway lol cuz I can kinda see the foreshadowing. To be honest I kind of hope Winterjou becomes canon instead because I think it would be hilarious. Even tho it probably won’t. However, your analysis was very interesting to listen to and it definitely gave me a slightly different perspective of the ship and I DO think it could definitely work out now. I just don’t really want it to lol
My friend totally thinks the SAME thing! To be honest I don't think WinterXKinkajou would be all that great, mainly because of how Winter treated Moon. He was horrible to her! I don't think it would be any different for these two. Anyway, I just want to note that this is just how I feel about this situation, so please no hard feelings.
@@caliiiiiii13 And your opinion is one hundred percent valid. I ship it because I feel like Winter has the potential to change for the better and maybe it could work out. Besides as long as it’s not canon it could go literally any way I want it to. And if it did become canon I don’t think Tui would portray it as toxic but you never know. But just because I ship it doesn’t mean you have to like it.
Turtlejou is one one of the cutests ships in WoF, with that one big ole giant astericks hanging over it... Its a little eerie how real her love seems while she is enchanted. If that love had been real from the start, it'd easily be among my favorites. But yeah... yikes. Now that its lifted, and they had their chat about what that spell means, they have a good foundation to build a true relationship on. My god that scene is also just so damn cute. It gives me hope for when we see them in the future.
@Snappy Storm I mean... that's just kind of a running trend with WoF that the ships come about so suddenly. One of the downsides to having so many characters is the need to split attention between them all.
Turtlejou could have been such a good ship, they had chemistry and were friends, but then the love spell just ruined everything. Kinkajou doesn't know which feelings she felt for him were real and which ones weren't. This reminds me a bit of Jason and Piper from the Heroes Of Olympus series, and this ship didn't work out either for those very reasons. It was just a weird plot point, the ship could have worked well without the spell.
I don’t hate this ship, but I personally prefer Moon X Kinkajou. I just love the dynamic of close friends who could be just friends or could be together. I don’t like that it was shoehorned in, but I feel like Moon and Kinkajou go together more. I love the art and the analysis :)
I don’t have too much to say on the video, but I LOVE your art! I can tell that you’ve really improved with how you draw tribes and such. Keep improving, you’re a great artist and make interesting videos!
Hot take: I don’t think Kinkajou was ever romantically interested in Turtle aside from the love spell. She was into Winter in Moon Rising due to his “mysterious” brooding personality and “tortured” resenting attitude. She hardly took any notice of Turtle, who one could consider to be “boring” (something Kinkajou doesn’t want to see in a friend, much less a lover). After that, literally all that happens is: they split paths, Kinkajou gets put in a coma, and then wakes up with a sudden love for Turtle. I can’t imagine how that could’ve stemmed from anything except Anemone’s enchantment. Sorry Turtlejou supporters, but the ship seems one-sided.
Magic spell or not they did still kind of save the world together and they probably would have done that even without any enchantments both making him very much not boring
They have so much chemistry and would be a really cute match but it sucks how that love spell was added in, it just makes their relationship seem forced and like a plot device when it coulda been a really awesome match that became stronger overtime.
Personally I’m more of a moonjou shipper, and don’t really see turtle with anyone, but i mean if you like turtlejou then that’s totally ok, I won’t be upset about it, we all have different opinions everyone should respect
You also forgot the time when she was waking up and turned pink when she realized turtle was talking to her Also let's play attention to the wording of the spell I think it very physically said something along the lines of "and while I'm at it I enchanted to make her love my brother just as much as he loves her" which is an interesting point I never see anyone talk about because it could indicate severity or level For instance if she had already like turtle but wasn't as into it as he was just thus the spell would have changed her severity levels to match his Others point out that you didn't act really all that much different after the spell wasn't placed indicating that you might have liked him from the beginning I'm not quite sure how I feel about that because I'm pretty sure that in book 6 we saw that she was more attracted to winter, but also that pretty much any romance was just the big adventure of high school and that she didn't actually care all that much because she wasn't jealous about Moon which honestly give me kind of aro vibes but still indicates that turtle wasn't her crush during the time we got to see into her head and they didn't leave too much after that because she went off with the others a day or two later and he stayed back and didn't find her again until she was already in a coma And of course the epilogue off of shows her making good friends with winter so I wonder if that attraction is still there even with her weird enchanted feelings for turtle Which people point out is still possibly there because it was never an enemy spell in the first place and was all her but I don't quite believe that because she said they were gone and that she remembered feeling them which was like still feeling them but she didn't say she still felt them And again the addendum to the spell was just to take it off not to not make her love turtle so anything she would have felt originally would have still been there even with the spell removed which is what some people say these remembered feelings in the epilogue are but I'm doubtful But I agree with the fact that they would could still be good friends and are mature enough to talk to one another and maybe after a while they could still form a relationship just you know not one-sided magic this time because they really do work well together and I could see them working through this problem And like she says she does actually find him cute with or without feelings about it involved which I can definitely end up platonic way of teasing a best friend but in my personal belief all the best romantic relationships do Ryan's out of people being best friends first because honestly why wouldn't it
Oh yeah btw when turtle failed to find someone the sickly dies he kills two of his sisters not one also love your stuff and I love watching you draw your art style is just so sooth!
I personally don't like Tuetlejou because for me it feel like it came out of nowhere. It also feels forced and what not. It made me kinda unhappy since I always saw them more as friends. Kinkajou also feels very young to me, and Turtle is a definitely a bit older than her in my head, so it makes me uncomfortable. I would have much preferred if they either didn't ship anyone with Turtle or it was Peril.
As in ship Turtle with Peril? (I personally don't like that ship, but people have their own opinions) if that is what your saying you also mentioned that you believe Kinkajou is older than Turtle (idk ages sorry) and that made you uncomfortable. If I am correct Turtle is 3 and Peril is 9
@niohgamer806 According to the Wiki, Turtle is 5, and Peril is 8. If you consider that as a large age gap, keep in kind that she went to Jade Mountain just like he did and at the same time. Edit: (Just explaning why I like Purtle more) Peril genuinely befriended Turtle throughout their adventures together. That's what I love about her and her book so much: her complex backstory and emotions. I was happy throughout the entire book as I read it, excited for the next chapter. I genuinely think they would make a good couple. Turtle helps Peril realise there's more to life than just Clay and that she can be a better dragon. Peril helps Turtle with his confidence and is there to help him. They're both pretty awkward in social situations, and I think that's cute. Of course, this is all just my opinion. I won't hate you if you don't ship Peril x Turtle.
No way you just said that you didn't like Turtlejou because of the 'age gap' while you think Peril x Turtle isn't bad. At least both Turtle and Kinkajou are teens, Peril is an adult...
I swear I shipped this before talons of power even got released. But from a narrative point of view I really hope a winglet or something gets a chance to explore kinkajou. KINKAJOU DESERVED HER OWN BOOK! Comment aside my favorite head cannon is arc two was kinkajou either writing what she thinks happened or is trying her best to write down everything. Is there any proof? Nope. It’s just a fun head cannon
I like this ship but Thinking about it makes me think of fire most specifically the fire that I want to throw anenome into for enchanting kinkajous FEELINGS
Me personally, I like the ship because I feel like they go together really well I’m not judging anyone who doesn’t, but they just seem to click in my opinion. (NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE WHO DISLIKES THE SHIP!)
I absolutely LOVE this ship. It is AWESOME! I'm glad you made this analysis, it really helped me see how GOOD these two are for each other. Anyway that's all, keep up the good work!
My personal opinion on this ship is that Turtle and Kinkajou had chemistry before Anenome's spell, the spell just kick-started their relationship by helping Kinkajou see past Turtle's mask of unremarkableness. Another event with the same effect could have worked as a substitute. Example A: They get left alone together by their friends because of one reason or another and Turtle finds an opportunity to open up about his stories or the struggles of having siblings, and Kinkajou starts to get intrested in learning more about him.
My opinion is that Kinkajou likes everyone and having a actual friend like jade winglet is new to her and turtle likes not being another brother and a failure and a dead man walking if he is discovered so he loosens up and anemone in her mental decline toys with turtle and now Kinkajou is stuck with good feelings for turtle and turtle is to shy to tell her without adrenaline’s that’s my opinion it is a tragedy or misunderstanding in disguise
Okay, I'm a bit late (because I didn't get the notification when this video first came out) but I just... *really want to talk about my feelings on this ship...* I DESPISE Turtlejou, and this is because I headcanon Kinkajou as aroace. To me, she doesn't seem like the kind of character to have a ship. I think Turtle's crush is cute, but Kinkajou returning the feelings is...weird, for me. I have a headcanon tied in with the aroace kinkajou one, which is that Kinkajou, in my version of the story is aroace, has a hard time dealing with the love spell because it's unnatural for her. This leaves effects on her that may take years to fix, but it's pretty much Kinkajou having mental health problems because Anemone's spell made her feel a way she wasn't supposed to. Back to canon- Like I said, I hate Turtlejou, a lot, but in a show of impressive self-restraint I will not go off about how liking the ship is wrong, because doing that is wrong because *it's a fictional ship* (I don't need "impressive self-restraint" to not yell at people for liking a ship, please don't murder me)
I don't mean to be rude but: Why do you ship TurtlexPeril? I mean in a curious way, not meaning to be rude! I personally don't like that ship because of: 1. Age gap (Turtle is 3 and Peril is 9) 2. I see them as good friends
@@niohgamer806 1. The age gap is three years, according to the Wiki. 2. Sering two characters as good friends isn't really a valid argument. A romantic partner should act as your best friend as well as a lover.
Moon x Kinkajou is better than what we got, Kinkajou and Moon stayed by each other's side even when Kinkajou was struck into a coma. They have much more chemistry than Moonbli or Winterwatcher edit: I mean winterwatcher, not quinter
I haven’t watched the full video but i honestly dont like the ship, i ship Pertle because i like the dinamic but i also have an oc i ship peril with but- i just think pertle is cute, for those of you who dont know pertle is peril x turtle. I just dont like the enchanted to love him (turtlejou) thing but i do respect people who like the ship im not gonna be like ‘oh i hate that ship and you have to too’ lop
I swear, so many people I’ve seen do the, "If I ship it you must ship it and if I hate it you should as well." I don’t read Warriors as much but I haven’t seen much behavior like that play out through the fandom besides Squirrelflight, Brambleclaw, and Ashfur. I doubt Dovewing’s love triangle is talked about *much* but it probably is.
I ship Turtlejou, I just find them to be a super cute ship and I felt really sad at the end of book 10 when it never happened, but I kind of expected that since Kinkajou never actually loved Turtle back (Also didn’t Darkstalker promise to never hurt one of Moon’s friends, and Kinkajou is her best friend, yet Darkstalker constantly tries to tell Moon she can trust him, yet ends up threatening Kinkajou’s life?)
I really did think the same near the end of the book but at the same time, I’m happy Kinkajou is off the spell. Even if Turtle didn’t get the girl he loved. I just think if Kinkajou had time to think about Turtle and her feelings towards him, it would’ve been better. I didn’t like the fact that Anemone cast a spell on her like that. Even if it was for her brother. I mean- whatever it takes to keep the plot moving I guess-
"he makes Darkstalker have a breakdown using a marble" idk why I found that funny, also amazing art 4rcane :D I've never really thought much about this ship so I don't have much of a opinion on it :D
I thought that was funny too
@@Funnybrained lol
@@HalaNixNyx what pages, I need to reread it😊😊
Oh nvm
@@Joshuajande ???
I find it really ironic that the way Kinkajou treated Turtle felt exactly like how’d she treat any other friend during book 9 to me lol. She acts like a fun-loving loyal friend then turns around and goes “I love you Turtle”, and it just comes off so unnatural compared to how she behaves the rest of the book (I get that could be deliberate since it’s a love spell but it just seems silly). To be honest I think she has more chemistry with Moon during the book.
i agree
As soon as Anemone spoke that spell, I really wanted the twist to be that the spell made her like him less because she already liked him more than he liked her to begin with. But it didn’t really seem that way how it played out, it really seems like she didn’t change her behavior at all.
no i can Definity tell an immediate difference after the spell. maybe you dont see the difference? but she Definity talks to him differently in her own bubbly way
You lost me at the Kinkamoon part.
Personally I really enjoy the idea of Kinkajou actually being aromantic. She just gives me this vibe of well... romanticizing romance...? Like it's more of a fairytale to her: something she enjoys imagining and hearing about but not something that really applies to her reality?
oh my god THANK YOU SOMEONE ELSE WHO LIKES THE IDEA OF KINKAJOU X AROMANTICISM
YES
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Where nobody really paid her any mind besides coconut
...
Tamarin: am I a joke to you?
Moon: :’/
@@giant-enemy-spider Moon didn't know her until they went to school so it doesn't really fit in this particular context of talking about her upbringing in the rainforest
honestly, I think Winter x Kinkajou is way more likely at this point for a few reasons
1. Kinkajou has always had a crush on Winter
2. Kinkaou has been helping Winter since the Epilogue of Darkness of Dragons
3. Turtle doesn't mention Kinkajou whatsoever in the epilogue. Not how she would feel, not how she would act, we don't even see her with Queen Glory in Book 14.
4. Kinkajou still feels a bit uncomfortable around Turtle because of the spell. She mentions this in the Epilogue of Book 10, saying she still can't tell what's real and what was the spell, but saying that she thinks she likes him about as much as Sloths and Anemone's crush on Tamarin
5. As mentioned here, they try to hang out more and see if the feelings are real. However, as mentioned in Point 3, Kinkajou is neither seen with Turtle or Mentioned by him in Arc 3, leading me to infer that things didn't work out.
Now I don't hate the ship. I just don't think that it worked out.
This does make sense, and I do like the ship, since Moonbli became canon
I know this is almost a year old but if it was winter x kinkajou and qibli x moon, who would end up with turtle? Maybe umber but umber has a crush on qibli
I think Kinkajou and Winter would be cute especially sense Winter has gotten past all that childhood trauma
Everyone always says that they hope Turtlejou becomes canon, and you know, that’s fine. Everyone has their ships. But I personally hope it DOSEN’T become canon not just because any love for Turtle Kinkajou had was artificial (even tho that’s one of the main reason) but I also kind of like the message that love doesn’t always work out, no matter how much you want it to. And you can’t make them love you. I thought it was cool how Turtle accepted that as hard as it was for him. It probably is gonna become canon anyway lol cuz I can kinda see the foreshadowing. To be honest I kind of hope Winterjou becomes canon instead because I think it would be hilarious. Even tho it probably won’t.
However, your analysis was very interesting to listen to and it definitely gave me a slightly different perspective of the ship and I DO think it could definitely work out now. I just don’t really want it to lol
My friend totally thinks the SAME thing! To be honest I don't think WinterXKinkajou would be all that great, mainly because of how Winter treated Moon. He was horrible to her! I don't think it would be any different for these two. Anyway, I just want to note that this is just how I feel about this situation, so please no hard feelings.
@@caliiiiiii13 And your opinion is one hundred percent valid. I ship it because I feel like Winter has the potential to change for the better and maybe it could work out. Besides as long as it’s not canon it could go literally any way I want it to. And if it did become canon I don’t think Tui would portray it as toxic but you never know. But just because I ship it doesn’t mean you have to like it.
@@milkblake2658 I think Winter could change but who knows? We'll just have to hope for the best for Kinkajou, and let Tui seal her fate...
Turtlejou is one one of the cutests ships in WoF, with that one big ole giant astericks hanging over it...
Its a little eerie how real her love seems while she is enchanted. If that love had been real from the start, it'd easily be among my favorites. But yeah... yikes.
Now that its lifted, and they had their chat about what that spell means, they have a good foundation to build a true relationship on. My god that scene is also just so damn cute. It gives me hope for when we see them in the future.
Yea definitely. I ship it but I think that the start is a huge yikes for sure
@Snappy Storm I mean... that's just kind of a running trend with WoF that the ships come about so suddenly. One of the downsides to having so many characters is the need to split attention between them all.
@Snappy Storm No, no in escaping peril there were a few clues
Turtlejou could have been such a good ship, they had chemistry and were friends, but then the love spell just ruined everything.
Kinkajou doesn't know which feelings she felt for him were real and which ones weren't.
This reminds me a bit of Jason and Piper from the Heroes Of Olympus series, and this ship didn't work out either for those very reasons.
It was just a weird plot point, the ship could have worked well without the spell.
I forgot that that happened in HOO. Probably because I read it back in 4th grade LOL
I don’t hate this ship, but I personally prefer Moon X Kinkajou. I just love the dynamic of close friends who could be just friends or could be together. I don’t like that it was shoehorned in, but I feel like Moon and Kinkajou go together more. I love the art and the analysis :)
@@MintPawYT I don’t dislike Moonbli either, I’m just a fan of non cannon ships. It doesn’t need to be cannon to be shipped.
YES! A FELLOW MOON X KINKAJOU SHIPPER!!! >:)
@@MintPawYT That's your opinion, this is mine. I respect your opinion.
Yes someone who gets me!!
Same
I don’t have too much to say on the video, but I LOVE your art! I can tell that you’ve really improved with how you draw tribes and such. Keep improving, you’re a great artist and make interesting videos!
TY!! 💜✨
@@5rcane Ofc!
Hot take: I don’t think Kinkajou was ever romantically interested in Turtle aside from the love spell. She was into Winter in Moon Rising due to his “mysterious” brooding personality and “tortured” resenting attitude. She hardly took any notice of Turtle, who one could consider to be “boring” (something Kinkajou doesn’t want to see in a friend, much less a lover). After that, literally all that happens is: they split paths, Kinkajou gets put in a coma, and then wakes up with a sudden love for Turtle. I can’t imagine how that could’ve stemmed from anything except Anemone’s enchantment. Sorry Turtlejou supporters, but the ship seems one-sided.
Magic spell or not they did still kind of save the world together and they probably would have done that even without any enchantments both making him very much not boring
this
THIS EXACTLY
YES EXACTLY!! Tysm omg
I think it started off one sided and the shop wouldn’t have happened without Anemone’s interference for sure
One of the reasons I don’t ship Turtlejou (or any Turtle ship for that matter) is because I kin him and headcanon him to be aroace lol
FIRST! and I’m excited
Wow we did it at the the same time
@@Wendi-god lol yeah! I guess we are both first if that’s possible lol
They have so much chemistry and would be a really cute match but it sucks how that love spell was added in, it just makes their relationship seem forced and like a plot device when it coulda been a really awesome match that became stronger overtime.
wow, i am here early
Also, I love turtlejou, it is SUCH A CUTE SHIP
Personally I’m more of a moonjou shipper, and don’t really see turtle with anyone, but i mean if you like turtlejou then that’s totally ok, I won’t be upset about it, we all have different opinions everyone should respect
WHAT. Moonjou? She isn't gay.
It’s my headcanon and I do what I want with it
@@vfakecfake33661: It's an opinion
2: She could be bi, pan, omni, ect.
Lol I ship it too :)
You also forgot the time when she was waking up and turned pink when she realized turtle was talking to her
Also let's play attention to the wording of the spell
I think it very physically said something along the lines of "and while I'm at it I enchanted to make her love my brother just as much as he loves her" which is an interesting point I never see anyone talk about because it could indicate severity or level
For instance if she had already like turtle but wasn't as into it as he was just thus the spell would have changed her severity levels to match his
Others point out that you didn't act really all that much different after the spell wasn't placed indicating that you might have liked him from the beginning I'm not quite sure how I feel about that because I'm pretty sure that in book 6 we saw that she was more attracted to winter, but also that pretty much any romance was just the big adventure of high school and that she didn't actually care all that much because she wasn't jealous about Moon which honestly give me kind of aro vibes but still indicates that turtle wasn't her crush during the time we got to see into her head and they didn't leave too much after that because she went off with the others a day or two later and he stayed back and didn't find her again until she was already in a coma
And of course the epilogue off of shows her making good friends with winter so I wonder if that attraction is still there even with her weird enchanted feelings for turtle
Which people point out is still possibly there because it was never an enemy spell in the first place and was all her but I don't quite believe that because she said they were gone and that she remembered feeling them which was like still feeling them but she didn't say she still felt them
And again the addendum to the spell was just to take it off not to not make her love turtle so anything she would have felt originally would have still been there even with the spell removed which is what some people say these remembered feelings in the epilogue are but I'm doubtful
But I agree with the fact that they would could still be good friends and are mature enough to talk to one another and maybe after a while they could still form a relationship just you know not one-sided magic this time
because they really do work well together and I could see them working through this problem
And like she says she does actually find him cute with or without feelings about it involved which I can definitely end up platonic way of teasing a best friend but in my personal belief all the best romantic relationships do Ryan's out of people being best friends first because honestly why wouldn't it
@☀ sunbloom ♡ exactly, ... Well it is but in slightly different terms
This is amazing! Keep up the good work!
I agree 4rcane not shipping somone for personal reasons is a freedom we all have. Also Cleril rules.
Oh yeah btw when turtle failed to find someone the sickly dies he kills two of his sisters not one also love your stuff and I love watching you draw your art style is just so sooth!
W-what?
I love this ship, personally. Even if they don’t like eachother romantically, they’ll still be REALLY good friends.
I FINALLY have my SeaWing-RainWing! (My OC is a sea-rain named Stormcatcher)
Is anyone else gonna like
I personally don't like Tuetlejou because for me it feel like it came out of nowhere. It also feels forced and what not. It made me kinda unhappy since I always saw them more as friends. Kinkajou also feels very young to me, and Turtle is a definitely a bit older than her in my head, so it makes me uncomfortable. I would have much preferred if they either didn't ship anyone with Turtle or it was Peril.
As in ship Turtle with Peril? (I personally don't like that ship, but people have their own opinions) if that is what your saying you also mentioned that you believe Kinkajou is older than Turtle (idk ages sorry) and that made you uncomfortable. If I am correct Turtle is 3 and Peril is 9
@niohgamer806 According to the Wiki, Turtle is 5, and Peril is 8. If you consider that as a large age gap, keep in kind that she went to Jade Mountain just like he did and at the same time.
Edit: (Just explaning why I like Purtle more) Peril genuinely befriended Turtle throughout their adventures together. That's what I love about her and her book so much: her complex backstory and emotions. I was happy throughout the entire book as I read it, excited for the next chapter. I genuinely think they would make a good couple. Turtle helps Peril realise there's more to life than just Clay and that she can be a better dragon. Peril helps Turtle with his confidence and is there to help him. They're both pretty awkward in social situations, and I think that's cute. Of course, this is all just my opinion. I won't hate you if you don't ship Peril x Turtle.
It _literally_ came out of nowhere
No way you just said that you didn't like Turtlejou because of the 'age gap' while you think Peril x Turtle isn't bad. At least both Turtle and Kinkajou are teens, Peril is an adult...
I swear I shipped this before talons of power even got released. But from a narrative point of view I really hope a winglet or something gets a chance to explore kinkajou.
KINKAJOU DESERVED HER OWN BOOK!
Comment aside my favorite head cannon is arc two was kinkajou either writing what she thinks happened or is trying her best to write down everything. Is there any proof? Nope. It’s just a fun head cannon
THERE WAS SHIP WAR RPS 😨✋ (I gen didn’t know about that)
I like this ship but Thinking about it makes me think of fire most specifically the fire that I want to throw anenome into for enchanting kinkajous FEELINGS
Me personally, I like the ship because I feel like they go together really well I’m not judging anyone who doesn’t, but they just seem to click in my opinion. (NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE WHO DISLIKES THE SHIP!)
I think that the magic part ruined this ship forever
I don't know if I've asked you this before but what painting app do you use
look in the description
@@-.Lizard_eggs.- thanks
I absolutely LOVE this ship. It is AWESOME! I'm glad you made this analysis, it really helped me see how GOOD these two are for each other. Anyway that's all, keep up the good work!
Early!
Second ^^
Ship tier(Personally): S
My personal opinion on this ship is that Turtle and Kinkajou had chemistry before Anenome's spell, the spell just kick-started their relationship by helping Kinkajou see past Turtle's mask of unremarkableness. Another event with the same effect could have worked as a substitute.
Example A: They get left alone together by their friends because of one reason or another and Turtle finds an opportunity to open up about his stories or the struggles of having siblings, and Kinkajou starts to get intrested in learning more about him.
My opinion is that Kinkajou likes everyone and having a actual friend like jade winglet is new to her and turtle likes not being another brother and a failure and a dead man walking if he is discovered so he loosens up and anemone in her mental decline toys with turtle and now Kinkajou is stuck with good feelings for turtle and turtle is to shy to tell her without adrenaline’s that’s my opinion it is a tragedy or misunderstanding in disguise
(Cries in liana is forgotten)
Okay, I'm a bit late (because I didn't get the notification when this video first came out) but I just... *really want to talk about my feelings on this ship...*
I DESPISE Turtlejou, and this is because I headcanon Kinkajou as aroace. To me, she doesn't seem like the kind of character to have a ship. I think Turtle's crush is cute, but Kinkajou returning the feelings is...weird, for me. I have a headcanon tied in with the aroace kinkajou one, which is that Kinkajou, in my version of the story is aroace, has a hard time dealing with the love spell because it's unnatural for her. This leaves effects on her that may take years to fix, but it's pretty much Kinkajou having mental health problems because Anemone's spell made her feel a way she wasn't supposed to.
Back to canon-
Like I said, I hate Turtlejou, a lot, but in a show of impressive self-restraint I will not go off about how liking the ship is wrong, because doing that is wrong because *it's a fictional ship*
(I don't need "impressive self-restraint" to not yell at people for liking a ship, please don't murder me)
turtlejou is my second favorite ship!
I personally ship turtle with peril, but I can see where your coming from to, and respect your opinion.
I don't mean to be rude but: Why do you ship TurtlexPeril? I mean in a curious way, not meaning to be rude! I personally don't like that ship because of: 1. Age gap (Turtle is 3 and Peril is 9) 2. I see them as good friends
@@niohgamer806 1. The age gap is three years, according to the Wiki. 2. Sering two characters as good friends isn't really a valid argument. A romantic partner should act as your best friend as well as a lover.
Another video
Moon x Kinkajou is better than what we got, Kinkajou and Moon stayed by each other's side even when Kinkajou was struck into a coma. They have much more chemistry than Moonbli or Winterwatcher
edit: I mean winterwatcher, not quinter
I ship it.
I used to ship it, but now I ship Moonjou insead.
I haven’t watched the full video but i honestly dont like the ship, i ship Pertle because i like the dinamic but i also have an oc i ship peril with but- i just think pertle is cute, for those of you who dont know pertle is peril x turtle. I just dont like the enchanted to love him (turtlejou) thing but i do respect people who like the ship im not gonna be like ‘oh i hate that ship and you have to too’ lop
*lol
I swear, so many people I’ve seen do the, "If I ship it you must ship it and if I hate it you should as well." I don’t read Warriors as much but I haven’t seen much behavior like that play out through the fandom besides Squirrelflight, Brambleclaw, and Ashfur. I doubt Dovewing’s love triangle is talked about *much* but it probably is.
First one here
So close-
I like the ship.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I plead the fifth
I ship Turtlejou, I just find them to be a super cute ship and I felt really sad at the end of book 10 when it never happened, but I kind of expected that since Kinkajou never actually loved Turtle back
(Also didn’t Darkstalker promise to never hurt one of Moon’s friends, and Kinkajou is her best friend, yet Darkstalker constantly tries to tell Moon she can trust him, yet ends up threatening Kinkajou’s life?)
I really did think the same near the end of the book but at the same time, I’m happy Kinkajou is off the spell. Even if Turtle didn’t get the girl he loved. I just think if Kinkajou had time to think about Turtle and her feelings towards him, it would’ve been better. I didn’t like the fact that Anemone cast a spell on her like that. Even if it was for her brother.
I mean- whatever it takes to keep the plot moving I guess-
I Don't mind this ship but I ship turtle X peril LOL
Why? Don't mean to be rude, just curious! :)
Its perfect
@@fintasticfireThere's an age gap tho... It's basically shipping an adult with a teenager
@@birb70 when u read warriorcats age gaps dont really matter lmao.
One things I hate about shipping is that it sometimes goes against the shown sexuality like sure winter may be bi but he was shown to be straight
Winter was not shown to be straight he was shown to like one girl that doesn't mean he only likes girls
Just because a bi person likes their opposite gender doesn't mean their suddently straight-
@@NebulousKiwi I mean peaple do not know if the charecter is attracted to the other half of the ship but they do it anyway
@@p.m.e.7311 Wdym 'other half'?
@@NebulousKiwi whoever the person is shipped with
Read all the books, Love Winter and am a nerd for this series
Kinda cringe
Bruh this would've been the perfect ship but Anemone ruined everything
Love your videos but dayum you talk fast.
Second ^^