Hey my man, you are helping lots of people and it is our personal responsibility to share our knowledge and preserve your cultural value. Hardly any important lesson in life is enjoyable and entertaining, but once you have put in the work and learned the craft, the joy and pride that come with that success is bliss. I am eternally grateful to you for sharing your knowledge. From all the way out in Puerto Rico, a hello and a heartfelt thank you. Keep the videos coming.
It's good advice to study the pattern of a throw-net that you like, including the starting row, number and frequency of pumana rows, length, number of lead, etc. Copy that pattern for your first net.
Hou Howzit just thought I could add how I actually determine my final eye count, so determining off leads is normally okay until you have a net that might have a real unique pattern, like a big net that's really light or too long of a spacing between pumanas. So what I do is calculate the Minimum amount of eyes needed based on the circumference of the net to allow for a full opening. So first we need to determine the width of an eye when it is fully open, and since an eye is a diamond or a rectangle, there is a simple way of doing that. You can take half your stretched eyes length (in other terms your spacer length) and plug that into the Pythagorean Theorem to calculate the hypotenuse of (or the widest point) of a stretched eye. For example if you were tying a 2.5in eye, then your spacer would be 1.25 inches. to a^2+b^2=c^2, plug in your value which would be: 1.25^2+1.25^2=c^2, giving you: 1.5625+1.5625=3.125, then you square root 3.125, which equals~1.77 inches, this would be the hypotenuse of a fully open eye, so you take you desired length of net, say 8 feet, which would be the radius, convert to circumference with the formula 2piR, so 16pi,or ~50.27 feet, convert to inches by multiplying by 12= 603.19 inches. That is your circumference for an 8 foot net, then just divide that by your maximum width of a stretched eye, 603.19/1.77=341.2, so the minimum amount of eyes needed to make this net would be approx 342 eyes to allow the net to open fully. Then I design my puma spacing and lead pattern off of my eye count. Definitely a little confusing when you first try it but it is a good way to double check that your net will have enough eyes to open and lie flat.
Thanks. Very good info, as you say, confusing and most of us would give up trying to calculate all that hahaha. I think most are just going over needed eye count, just to be on the safe side. But, ill definitely keep it in mind.
How do you determine what rows to put the pumana in?? So like starting with the piko. Say you start with 20 eyes on the piko, how many rows down would be ur first pumana row and so forth?? Much mahalo to you for posting these videos it’s been such a big help for me. Looking forward to seeing more. Aloha!!
I dont think theres a specific row, all my nets have different starting points, all were sewn by different people. Some people prefer the mountain effect, helps them find the net, so theyll start pumana rows later. If you want, I can do a video to talk about it.
Very great video . I had a question though . If you’re doing every other eye for the puumana , when you start the puumana row do you start the puumana when you make your first eye or before ? Sorry I’m not sure if that’s clear
Most times, people that start with 20eyes, will do a full row of pumanas for the first pumana row. Every pumana row after that would line up vertically, meaning the pumanas below, should be in line with the one above. People that start with 60 eyes, usually do every other eye, on the first pumana row. If youre doing every other eye on your first pumana row, its easier to do a regular eye first I suppose. Youd be coming off of tying on to the drop down line, do a regualr eye, then pumana, regular eye, pumana, repeat.
@@tattookaleosorry follow up question . Im about to start my second puumana row . I started with 20 . Now it’s at 40 eyes . I would just line up with the first row all the way down till the end ? Or like in the video when I hit around 120 or 80 eye count I’d add another 20 puumana? Goal eye count is 400 at 10ft and 10lbs similar to the video .
Howzit sorry for da questions but my math just not mathing lol. But how you add 60 eyes to the 200? I understood how to 80eyes to 120eyes and so on but i stuck on how to add 60, do i skip two or three then pumana?
@@tattookaleo i following your diagram of 20 eye start and first pumana row every eye pumana so its 20, 40, 60, 80, then started adding 40 to get 120, 160, 200, but now trynna add 60 to get to 260 and then 320. I getting hard time finding out how for add 60 to the 200
@@1996kayden ok, if im understanding right, you started with "+20", then at your skip 3, you added a pumana between, which brings you back to skip 1, now youre at "+40". Now you want to be at an "+60", on your next skip 3 pumana row, youd do every other. So Pumana, skip 1 pumana, skip 1, pumana, skip 3, pumana, skip 1, pumana skip 1, pumana. Repeat. You dont want to repeat how you did to go from "+20" to "+40" cause youll end up at "+80". Now you want to double up on only HALF of the pumanas, half of 40 is 20. If you want, I can make a video to explain
Damn bra i messed up😂🤦🏽♂️ I did something wrong because instead of going from 200 eyes to 260 eyes i ended up with 274. I gotta cut all the way back to 200? Or get one way can save um?😂
You added more pumna than shouldve. Best way is to cut, go back. Usually I always double check as Im going on pumana row, then count the eyes before doing the next row
Hey my man, you are helping lots of people and it is our personal responsibility to share our knowledge and preserve your cultural value. Hardly any important lesson in life is enjoyable and entertaining, but once you have put in the work and learned the craft, the joy and pride that come with that success is bliss. I am eternally grateful to you for sharing your knowledge. From all the way out in Puerto Rico, a hello and a heartfelt thank you. Keep the videos coming.
It's good advice to study the pattern of a throw-net that you like, including the starting row, number and frequency of pumana rows, length, number of lead, etc. Copy that pattern for your first net.
Hou Howzit just thought I could add how I actually determine my final eye count, so determining off leads is normally okay until you have a net that might have a real unique pattern, like a big net that's really light or too long of a spacing between pumanas. So what I do is calculate the Minimum amount of eyes needed based on the circumference of the net to allow for a full opening. So first we need to determine the width of an eye when it is fully open, and since an eye is a diamond or a rectangle, there is a simple way of doing that. You can take half your stretched eyes length (in other terms your spacer length) and plug that into the Pythagorean Theorem to calculate the hypotenuse of (or the widest point) of a stretched eye. For example if you were tying a 2.5in eye, then your spacer would be 1.25 inches. to a^2+b^2=c^2, plug in your value which would be: 1.25^2+1.25^2=c^2, giving you: 1.5625+1.5625=3.125, then you square root 3.125, which equals~1.77 inches, this would be the hypotenuse of a fully open eye, so you take you desired length of net, say 8 feet, which would be the radius, convert to circumference with the formula 2piR, so 16pi,or ~50.27 feet, convert to inches by multiplying by 12= 603.19 inches. That is your circumference for an 8 foot net, then just divide that by your maximum width of a stretched eye, 603.19/1.77=341.2, so the minimum amount of eyes needed to make this net would be approx 342 eyes to allow the net to open fully. Then I design my puma spacing and lead pattern off of my eye count. Definitely a little confusing when you first try it but it is a good way to double check that your net will have enough eyes to open and lie flat.
Thanks. Very good info, as you say, confusing and most of us would give up trying to calculate all that hahaha. I think most are just going over needed eye count, just to be on the safe side. But, ill definitely keep it in mind.
Good vid. Love learning all of it. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
just starting to learn, and found ru video very informative, MAHALO!!!!
Great explanation Thanks for sharing.
How do you determine what rows to put the pumana in?? So like starting with the piko. Say you start with 20 eyes on the piko, how many rows down would be ur first pumana row and so forth??
Much mahalo to you for posting these videos it’s been such a big help for me.
Looking forward to seeing more. Aloha!!
I dont think theres a specific row, all my nets have different starting points, all were sewn by different people. Some people prefer the mountain effect, helps them find the net, so theyll start pumana rows later. If you want, I can do a video to talk about it.
Nice work
Big mahalos my bradda 🤙🏽
Very great video . I had a question though . If you’re doing every other eye for the puumana , when you start the puumana row do you start the puumana when you make your first eye or before ? Sorry I’m not sure if that’s clear
Most times, people that start with 20eyes, will do a full row of pumanas for the first pumana row. Every pumana row after that would line up vertically, meaning the pumanas below, should be in line with the one above.
People that start with 60 eyes, usually do every other eye, on the first pumana row.
If youre doing every other eye on your first pumana row, its easier to do a regular eye first I suppose. Youd be coming off of tying on to the drop down line, do a regualr eye, then pumana, regular eye, pumana, repeat.
@@tattookaleo ok thank you 🤙🏾🤙🏾
@@tattookaleosorry follow up question . Im about to start my second puumana row . I started with 20 . Now it’s at 40 eyes . I would just line up with the first row all the way down till the end ? Or like in the video when I hit around 120 or 80 eye count I’d add another 20 puumana? Goal eye count is 400 at 10ft and 10lbs similar to the video .
Howzit sorry for da questions but my math just not mathing lol. But how you add 60 eyes to the 200? I understood how to 80eyes to 120eyes and so on but i stuck on how to add 60, do i skip two or three then pumana?
How much eyes did you start with? And was your first pumana row all pumana?
@@tattookaleo i following your diagram of 20 eye start and first pumana row every eye pumana so its
20, 40, 60, 80, then started adding 40 to get 120, 160, 200, but now trynna add 60 to get to 260 and then 320. I getting hard time finding out how for add 60 to the 200
@@1996kayden ok, if im understanding right, you started with "+20", then at your skip 3, you added a pumana between, which brings you back to skip 1, now youre at "+40".
Now you want to be at an "+60", on your next skip 3 pumana row, youd do every other. So Pumana, skip 1 pumana, skip 1, pumana, skip 3, pumana, skip 1, pumana skip 1, pumana. Repeat. You dont want to repeat how you did to go from "+20" to "+40" cause youll end up at "+80". Now you want to double up on only HALF of the pumanas, half of 40 is 20.
If you want, I can make a video to explain
Damn bra i messed up😂🤦🏽♂️ I did something wrong because instead of going from 200 eyes to 260 eyes i ended up with 274. I gotta cut all the way back to 200? Or get one way can save um?😂
You added more pumna than shouldve. Best way is to cut, go back. Usually I always double check as Im going on pumana row, then count the eyes before doing the next row