Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage, including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
16 क्योंकि परमेश्वर ने जगत से ऐसा प्रेम रखा कि उस ने अपना एकलौता पुत्र दे दिया, ताकि जो कोई उस पर विश्वास करे, वह नाश न हो, परन्तु अनन्त जीवन पाए। यूहन्ना 3:16 17 परमेश्वर ने अपने पुत्र को जगत में इसलिये नहीं भेजा, कि जगत पर दंड की आज्ञा दे परन्तु इसलिये कि जगत उसके द्वारा उद्धार पाए। यूहन्ना 3:17 18 जो उस पर विश्वास करता है, उस पर दंड की आज्ञा नहीं होती, परन्तु जो उस पर विश्वास नहीं करता, वह दोषी ठहर चुका; इसलिये कि उस ने परमेश्वर के एकलौते पुत्र के नाम पर विश्वास नहीं किया। यूहन्ना 3:18 19 और दंड की आज्ञा का कारण यह है कि ज्योति जगत में आई है, और मनुष्यों ने अन्धकार को ज्योति से अधिक प्रिय जाना क्योंकि उन के काम बुरे थे। यूहन्ना 3:19 20 क्योंकि जो कोई बुराई करता है, वह ज्योति से बैर रखता है, और ज्योति के निकट नहीं आता, ऐसा न हो कि उसके कामों पर दोष लगाया जाए। यूहन्ना 3:20 21 परन्तु जो सच्चाई पर चलता है वह ज्योति के निकट आता है, ताकि उसके काम प्रगट हों, कि वह परमेश्वर की ओर से किए गए हैं। यूहन्ना 3:21
@@JesusisaMuslim no serious person would exegete the passage the way in which you did. Even if that were the case there are other passages which contradict your opinion.
@@JesusisaMuslim that's the problem. You are cherry picking few passages and building a whole narrative out of it. Its true that Jesus fulfilled old testament prophecies, but based on the context of this passage it doesn't seem to indicate that it is fulfilling Isaiah 45 prophecy. If that were the case in most of the cases author would quote the passage, but that doesnt seem to be the case. Also the way in which you interpret passage from Isaiah is weird. Here, 'world without end' means 'forever' or 'eternity'. It doesnt make sense if you read it as world of Israel. Its just bad interpretation of passage.
@@JesusisaMuslim concerning Jesus calling non Israelite pigs, you are not reading the passages in its context. In this context it just means people who are not receptive of the Gospel are referred metaphorically as swines not gentiles And when he called samaritan woman dog. The greek word refers here to 'pet dog' not 'wild dogs' nothing derogatory, and he is speaking in metaphors not literally. Also Jesus was also testing the faith of this woman, thats why he speaks like that. Lastly he respects the faith of this woman and does miracle. Jesus' ministry was primarily to Jews, and he spent most of his ministry in Israel. Jesus when he saw the faith of gentiles like Centurion he says, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith". And when he saw faith of Samaritan woman Jesus says, "“Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” In both these examples it shows that he doesn't reject gentiles, instead Jesus respects their faith. Also when Greeks came to Jesus to speak with him he says, “The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified” . This doesn't seem to reject non Jews. Also if you read John 10, it is very clear he is talking about gentiles being brought in his kingdom. Lastly Jesus at Matthew 28 gives great commission to preach Gospel to all nations. If Jesus wanted he could have said only preach in Judea or to Jews but he didn't, but he specifically asks them to preach to whole world. I could show other Bible passages also but I think I have made my point.
Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
@@davidzack8735 Have you seen Thomas Alexander's main series on "The Origins of Islam"? That adresses these matters. This here is just a series of brief tasters for those of us with a shorter concentration span.
@@markaxworthy2508 Why should I want to watch any more videos. Thomas claiming that the name Muhammad refers to Jesus Christ is ludicrous. As is his claim that the early Muslims were Christians and that there never was a Battle of Yarmuk or a conquest of Jerusalem in 637CE. 🤣
@@davidzack8735 You ask, "Why should I want to watch any more videos. " Perhaps because most of the matters you raised in your first post here are covered by Thomas Alexander's "The Origins of Islam" series? We don't have to agree with our opponents, but being aware of their arguments is better than being in ignorance of them, because one can't counter what one is unaware of.
@@markaxworthy2508 I did watch the videos, mate. That's why I said that Thomas's claims that Muhammad is a title used for Jesus Christ is beyond ludicrous. 🤣
@@meusisto Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage, including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
@@horseradishpower9947 Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
Of course the Quran has Aramaic influences. Fun fact. Islam is the only religion based on two previous religions which then instructs its followers to wage war against the adherents of the two previous religions. 😁
@@davidzack8735 lol, the story existed long before jews did. Besides early jews were Arabs, and it was Arabs who spread Judaism all over the world especially after the Nabateans converted to Judaism
What a talent. Have you come a cross a book by McFadden, McFadden_2021_Life_Is_Simple_How_Occam's_Razor_Set_Science_Free_and_Shapes_the_Universe? You seem to apply Occam's Razor every time you upload a video in the jungle of confusion called Islam, Muslims, and Islam Studies.
You are correct, which is another indication that the Quran was initially never intended to be a holy book, rather it referenced passages in scripture (and apocrypha) and presumed that the readers (or listeners) were familiar with those scriptures.
In the Bible, you can see the following: - Adam and Eve sinned, - They tried to cover their own sin(nakedness) with leaves. They tried to fix their mistakes by themselfs. - God provided the covering for their sin with animal skin(blood sacrifice) Only God can cover for our sin. Thank you Lord for the work on The Cross! Thank you Lord for the sacrifice of your Son Jesus Christ!
1 samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. The Qur'an is sent to confirm and correct corruption in previous scripture
Great material! The Quran's dependence on Apocrypha rather than the Bible is such an interesting question. Linking the tale of Adam and Eve to St Ephraim and the Syrian tradition also shows that the faith influencing or the source of the quranic text was more likely that of Syrians than of Ebionite Jews?
By your video you suggest that the interpretation of Satan being the serpent is exclusive to the cave of treasures however the idea of Satan being the serpent can be found in the Book of Revelations written in the 1st century, suggesting early Christians not just the ones in Iraq who likely compiled the cave of treasures, believed the same thing. Also you say that both the Cave of Treasures and the Quran call the tree as “The Tree of Life” but the Quran does not say that, the Quran calls the tree “The Tree” الشجرة, maybe Muslims associated the tree with the tree of life but no where in the Quran does it call it that. Lastly, Satan is not eager to see Adam and Eve naked, no where does Satan mention in his manifesto to tempt Adam and Eve is to see them naked but rather for them to disobey God. The two becoming/noticing their nakedness after eating the fruit is not exclusive to Christian Aramaic literature and can be found in early Jewish literature. So, from your perspective as a Christian I presume, you may believe that Islam is the mixture of Christian and Jewish beliefs, however to say it is influenced form Aramaic speaking Christians from this video at least, is false.
Hi Thomas a small off topic Question to you...in your knowledge is there a German research team like Inarah that does Research on the origins of Hinduism???? Sorry for the off topic talk but just wanted to ask...Thanks.
@Yakov Matityahu יעקב מתתיהו I am not Thomas... The 18th century Indian books do not talk about a religion called Hinduism. They only talk about Brahmin religion (other than Buddhist and Jainist). So "Hinduism" is an 18th (may be 19th) century invention. There is nothing to research on the subject.
@lucifer himself 18th AD. India never had a religion called Hindu/Hindi. It was a word used by the Arabs and Persians, to mean "Indian". Acc. to Persians, the northern region of India was "Hindustan". Only since about the 18th century, "Hindu" has been the term to describe a hotch-potch of belief systems, which have been subservient to the Brahmin religion.
@@vicmath1005 hinduism has a more ancient connection than islam so studying its roots are more difficult because of lack of literature and contemporary evidence
Correct me If my theory is wrong but I wonder why if the quran was muttawattir and known to masses of people why label a specific name to it why call it the reading of hafs qalon nafi etc... why not name it the ahruf of so and so why are these specific names given to it and why does the chain stop with hafs qalon nafi why does it not continue I believe these questions are overlooked what say you sir?
Without any question, the authors of the Quran plagiarized many previous religious texts which had been written centuries before the so called “ The Recitations of Mohammed “.
Please give the names of these 'people' who you claim wrote the nonsensical mishmash of Christian and Jewish scriptures, myths, legends and apocryphal stories and pseudo-gospels that make up most of the Quran. 😁
It’s beyond the scope of my videos, but here’s a quick overview: 1) It is falsely attributed to St Ephrem of Edessa (d. 373 AD) 2) In reality, it was written around 600 AD, possibly a bit earlier 3) It retells the biblical history from creation all the way to Jesus 4) It puts its own spin on things and changes some things around, like the tree in paradise, but also the location of the crucifixion which according to the Cave of Treasures happened on the Rock in Jerusalem. 5) It quickly became extremely popular among Aramaic speaking Christians.
Actually the plagiarization of previous texts is obiquitous in the Quran. They are things that are never found in the Bible, but found in Apocrypha (now tell me about corrupting Scriptures hu? :) ). Take a look a just some examples from the Apocrypha: - Jesus creates birds: Gospel of Thomas volume 1 pages 144 - copied in Quran 3.49 Quran 5.110 - Jesus talks while still a baby: Arabic Infancy Gospel - copied in Quran 19:30.34 - Mary receives food from God: Proto-gospel of James - copied in Quran 3.37 - Miracle of the palm tree and the source of water: Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew ch. 20 copied in Quran 19.23-26 - Proto-Gospel of James: plagiarized in Surat Al-Imran 3: 35-36: - Noble genealogy from the great patriarchs: Protoevangel I: 1 - Quran III: 33-34 - The Vow of Hannah: Protoevangel IV: 1 - Quran III: 35 - Birth of Mary (Protoevangel V: 2) (Quran III: 36) - God accepts Mary's consecration (Protoevangel V : 1) (Koran III : 37) - Mary's exemplary and spotless upbringing (Protogospel V : 1) (Koran III : 37) - Mary adopted by the priest Zakariah (Protoevangel VII: 2-3 and VIII: 1) (Quran III: 37) - The angels bring food to Mary (Protoevangel VIII : 1) (Koran III : 37) - Zakariah became mute (Protoevangel X : 2) (Koran III : 41) - The angels exalt Mary (Proto-Gospel XI: 1) (Quran III: 42) - The casting of lots for the care of Mary (Prot. VIII: 2-3 and IX. 1) (Quran III: 44) - The Annunciation to Mary (Prot. XI: 2-3) (Qur'an III: 45-47). These are only very few examples. All can be checked by yourself online. There is also a huge pastiche of Bible passages, not attributed to the proper authors.
Are you sure these passages were "plagiarized"? The sheer quantity of them, as well as their content, speaks to me of a sincere desire to spread Christian stories among the people of the Arabian peninsula, in a summarized form, rather than convince them of a completely new faith. I'm under the impression that Mohammed was a Christian, at least in the first part of his adult life. An agressive one, an Aryan, but a Christian. I think that "Disbelievers" are people who refuse to believe in this Judeo-Christian monotheistic religion he was spreading. But then, I wasn't there and then to say for sure.
I don’t think it’s “plagiarism” rather clarification because different disciples had different views on the events of each past prophet,the Quran came to correct each story and add on to what man kind doesn’t know or what the disciples couldn’t speak about,like the final supper where Jesus knew his death was coming,or what happened to the people during the time after God gave Moses the permission to split the sea and made the people of the pharaoh drown.The Quran came to clarify but also still continue spreading the same message of all the past prophets before prophet Muhammad pbuh that “worship your true lord for your lord is 1 and to not associate God with anyone or anything”
How can they in any way be plagiarisation rather its the correct version of the stories?? How exactly sure are you the Bible is correct?? And not to mention there are many stories from Bible in Quran as well. So that's it. All are interlinked. Apocryphal or not, Qur'an has clearly rejected many apocryphal narrations. Why?? Qur'an only takes the true versions of the story since it is revealed by God himself
Thankyou Thomas Nothing in the Quran matches with the Bible but twisted which means the writers were aware of their false caution but used Black marking
I see that the Jews had the star of David as it's sign. The Christians had the cross of Jesus as it's sign. While Islam has the pagan crescent moon of Baal as it's sign.
@@yousuf6382 The Crescent moon symbol in the middle east was also the pagan symbol for Baal/Moon god/Satan, long before Islam. It clearly looks like Islam is saying Allah is the moon god.
@@ranasalman5259 Because you understand how embarrassing it is to have a Pagan symbol for Islam. For hundreds of years after Mohammed, nearly every country or group of people had a flag. So 800yrs after Mohammed Islam slowly adopted the Crescent moon and star as their sign. The crescent moon and star, as with the Cross for Christianity and the Star of David for Judaism, is today a common and almost universal symbol for Islam. It is used on countless mosques and minarets, by charities, and as part of the flags for various Muslim nations, including, Algeria, Azerbaijan, Comoros Islands, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Pakistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Uzbekistan, and Western Sahara.
The Quran mentions numerous prophets and messengers from the past, highlighting their stories, teachings, and the guidance they received from Allah (God). Here are a few examples of Quranic verses that mention some of the previous prophets: Prophet Adam (Adam): "And [mention] when your Lord said to the angels, 'Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority.' They said, 'Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?' Allah said, 'Indeed, I know that which you do not know.'" (Quran 2:30) Prophet Noah (Nuh): "We sent Noah to his people, and he said, 'O my people, worship Allah; you have no deity other than Him. Indeed, I fear for you the punishment of a tremendous Day.'" (Quran 7:59) Prophet Abraham (Ibrahim): "Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists." (Quran 3:67) Prophet Moses (Musa): "And We certainly sent Moses with Our signs, [saying], 'Bring out your people from darknesses into the light and remind them of the days of Allah.' Indeed in that are signs for everyone patient and grateful." (Quran 14:5) Prophet Jesus (Isa): "[Mention] when the angels said, 'O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah ].'" (Quran 3:45) These are just a few examples, and the Quran mentions many more prophets, including Prophet David (Dawud), Prophet Solomon (Sulaiman), Prophet Joseph (Yusuf), and many others. The stories and teachings of these prophets are spread throughout the Quran, serving as lessons and guidance for humanity.
in Islam, Muslims are those who believe in the teachings of all the prophets and messengers sent by Allah (God), including Prophet Adam, Prophet Noah, Prophet Abraham, Prophet Moses, Prophet Jesus, and the final Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon them all). Muslims consider all the prophets and messengers as bearers of divine guidance, and they believe that their teachings were intended to guide humanity towards righteousness, monotheism, and submission to the will of Allah. Muslims also believe that Prophet Muhammad was the last and final messenger, and his message, as revealed in the Quran, encompasses and completes the previous messages. Believing in the teachings of all the prophets is one of the fundamental principles of Islam. Muslims regard these prophets as exemplary individuals who demonstrated obedience, patience, and unwavering faith in Allah, and their stories serve as lessons and inspiration for Muslims to follow in their footsteps and live a righteous life.
The Quran mentions that Islam is the complete and perfected religion ordained by Allah (God). Here are a few verses that highlight this concept: "This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion." (Quran 5:3) "And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers." (Quran 3:85) "And whoever submits his face to Allah while being a doer of good - then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold. And to Allah will be the outcome of [all] matters." (Quran 31:22) These verses emphasize that Islam, as revealed in the Quran, is a comprehensive and final guidance from Allah. It is considered the perfected way of life that encompasses all aspects of human existence, including faith, worship, morality, social conduct, and legal principles. The Quran portrays Islam as the ultimate and complete path to salvation and fulfillment in this life and the hereafter. Muslims believe that the Prophet Muhammad, as the final messenger, received the Quran as the last and most comprehensive revelation from Allah. It abrogates any previous religious laws or practices that were specific to a particular time or community, and it encompasses the universal principles applicable to all people throughout history. It is important to note that Islam recognizes and respects the earlier religious traditions and prophets, considering them as precursors to the final message of Islam. However, it asserts that Islam is the culmination and fulfillment of those previous revelations, providing the most complete and comprehensive guidance for humanity.
al lah has no son, but 3 daughters, yahweh has a son but 3 daughters. how can be same god, understand. my friend quran s 53:19 So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza? 20 And Manat, the third - the other one? 21 Is the male for you and for Him the female? 22 That, then, is an unjust division. was not your profit mu ham mad said that al lah's 3 daughter must worship? my friend so you have 1 al lah with 3 daughters and one al lah with no son, my friend you have 2 al lahs?
Ok.that's not all. A more important piece of data: in Genesis, the name "Adam" appears at first only in GEn 4:25 whose author is called "Redactor",i.e. that final, i.e. after the Cleansing of the Temple in 164 BC by Juda Maccabi after conquering Greeks.In the story of Garden (Gen 2) there is no name "Adam" only "the human" (in Eng.), the term "adam"(Hebr.)-not Adam,a person's name! The same inGen 5 whose source is different from J, E, and P and is called "Other'(R.E.Friedman, The Bible with the Sources Revealed",2003 plus probably any more advanced Commentary). Consequently, if the author of the Quran, "revealed"in 7th cent. CE was Allah@Mohammed@angel Gabriel they were stubborn idiots because they did have not enough time to learn the divine part of science, called hermeneutics in order to know the original source from the 10th and 9th cent. BCE when Gen 2-4 originated - this span of time was (10+7=17 centuries)!
Aramic language is basically a emperor Ram ‘s language. Arabic language is basically a emperor Rab ‘s language, both were from India. Can you understand this ? A is added in beginning or end in Middle East or India 🇮🇳, Abraham = Brahama, ( Abrahamic ) Brahama = Abraham ( Brahamaic Adam = dam , Allah = the raja Lah son of Rama, ( Islamic) , Languages in Islamic history, Aramic = a Ram- ic , is Ram’s language, Arabic = a rab ‘s language, also Arab- ic =Arab ‘s language. Rama and Rab is Indian kings , long ago, as gods / Bhagwan. Is- Lah م , worshiper’s of Lah . is - ra - el , means children of king Ra , is - ma- el , means children of king Ma . Who was king Ra or king Ma , in history? Al gor, Al Roy, Al Lah , Alexander , Al - Skandar, also Quran called same manas Dulqurnan.
Wrong. There’s no specific tree of ‘life’ mentioned in the Quran [which is, on your part spreading misinformation]. It was simply a forbidden tree. And if it was truly ‘copied’ then Eve would have been blamed for eating the Fruit just how it mentions in the bible that Eve ate the fruit first and opened Pandora’s box. Quran doesn’t blame Eve for eating the fruit. Rather it says that Adam pbuh and his wife both ate the forbidden [unknown] fruit. Quran does have similar stories to the bible in its correct [non-sexist] form. The reason being because the prophet pbuh was a succession of Jesus pbuh. So he was revealed the same stories as Jesus was. Same thing with story of Sheba and Soleman pbuh. Same thing with Moses pbuh. Yusuf pbuh. Even the story of iblis is similar except he wasn’t an angel, but rather jinn, made of smoke. If the same God is re-sending a message, it would make sense that the stories are similar. Muslims don’t reject Moses or Jesus. We just don’t believe Jesus is God.
@@meusisto he talks about the comparison between the biblical narrative in genesis and the Quranic narrative…and how the the cave of treasures/armaic influence ‘explains’ the difference between the differences between the two stories…and connects the tree to salvation…he probably never even read the Quranic version because there is no ‘tree of life’ mentioned…spreading misinformation for his own gains…and ppl like you are the bait…like at least if your going to try to explain/make connections do it honestly…
The Genesis stories were copy work too. For instance, Adam & Eve and the garden of Eden (and the tree) were already known by the Phoenicians 800 years *before* the Jews came into existence.
Its Human story i mean the origin of Human story...so obviously everyone will know about their origin...so what if the Jews got this info from Phoenicians...afterall its the origin story of us all....isnt it?
@first name second name The first five books of the Old Testament (also called five books of Moses), as we now have them, were written only in the 6th century BC. So, by that time, the story of Moses was already 700 years old. The book writers must have written about Moses based on what they remembered from oral stories. Anything before the time of Moses was almost certainly nothing more than fiction. It served merely as an introduction to Moses.
None of them are copywork. This isn't a story; it's history. It's also the first step of faith. Knowing that we are fallen and that we all sin but you must repent. That's why certain people care so much about pushing evolution. I wasn't even alive when they "debated" this. Now it's accepted everywhere here and academia and mainstream media try very hard to make you think that doubting evolution makes you low iq.
Thomas, you forgot to provide the actual Quranic narrative, probably because what you call in English "The Quran" mentions no such story as Adam and Eve. So either your research lacks integrity due to incompetence or your work is completely agenda based. Would be great if you could explain to us what the expression "القرآءن" means in English? Should be easy since you say it's aramaic right?
Personally, the Bible version when pieced together makes more sense. The first problem with the Quranic version is in Surah Quran 2:30. If all that God had made was perfect, why would the angels be suspicious over the creation of Man? Were some of the Jinn created to do evil? In the Quran, Iblis who is presumably Satan, rebelled against Adam which became his downfall. The Bible teaches us that Satan was created as the most beautiful of God's angels. He wanted to be like the Most High and be worshiped. He rebelled against God and led a revolt with a third of the angels joining in. Getting Adam to disobey God would be a bonus and the reason he told Eve that God didn't mean they would die. It meant God didn't want them to be as gods making and following their own rules. I wonder at some point if they're the same stories and where Muhammad got his information from which seems a consistent theme when comparing common stories of the two books.
The creation myth in the Quran is spliced together from different apocryphal sources. One that wasn’t mentioned in the video is the Gnostic Gospel of Bartholomew which explains the fall of Satan in the same terms as the Quran. And yes, this lead to contradictions. There is for example the clear implication that Iblis/Satan was an Angel whereas later he is a Jinn.
The angels became suspicious because God was about to create a creation in His image with free will to act however they choose. See Quran 2:30. The concept of Satan being more “beautiful” and “better” in appearance is implied throughout the Quran. One example- *“Allah asked, O Iblîs! What is the matter with you that you did not join others in prostration?’* *He replied, ‘It is not for me to prostrate to a human You created from sounding clay moulded from black mud.’”* (15:32-33) Another example- “He replied, ‘I am better than he is: You created me from fire and him from clay.’”* (7:12) Also, the reason jinns were created is answered in the Quran Itself.: *”I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me.* *I seek no provision from them, nor do I need them to feed Me.”* *Indeed, Allah ˹alone˺ is the Supreme Provider-Lord of all Power, Ever Mighty.”* (51:56-58) Perhaps, if you’ve read the Quran more and stopped listening to paid shills online trying to debunk the truth, you wouldn’t be in so much confusion.
@@TAlexander Those gospels you call “apocryphal” are definitely far more historically reliable and accurate than that entire error-ridden New Testament cobbled together at Nicea. There’s no where in the Quran where Iblis is said or implied to be an Angel. In fact, the Quran literally specifies that Iblis is a jinn in 18:50. Angels cannot disobey Allah. Only jinns and humans have free will, hence this verse 👇 *”Indeed, We have destined many jinn and humans for Hell. They have hearts they do not understand with, eyes they do not see with, and ears they do not hear with.”* (7:179) No mention whatsoever of disobedient angels anywhere in the Quran. Lol. Someone recommended me your videos and I thought I was gonna be in for some groundbreaking information that would potentially shake my faith but its actually done the opposite. I’ve seen nothing new here, just the same old orientalist talking points. Gotta thank you for the iman boost dude! Really appreciate it. 😁
@@lightofilm6228 You seem to be I’ll informed on several counts: 1) The NT was not cobbled together at Nicaea 2) None of the Apocrypha mentioned here are anywhere near as old as the various books of the NT, meaning they’re less reliable 3) In Surah 7:11 we read: “Then We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblis. He was not of those who prostrated.” Which clearly implies that Iblis was an Angel. God didn’t command the Jinn after all. The truth is, it’s the Quran that was cobbled together from unreliable sources, like the ones mentioned here, centuries after the original. That’s why you have these internal contradictions like Iblis being both Jinn and Angel. Or Jesus dying and not dying at the same time.
@@TAlexander 1. Yes it was. Who canonized the NT gospels you have in your Bible today? It certainly wasn’t Jesus or the disciples. 2. Some of the gospels you Christians claim the Quran copied from have actually been sourced only a few decades to a 100 years after the supposed crucifixion. The Gospel of Thomas is an example, it contains some of the stories about Jesus speaking in the cradle and creating birds out of clay. 3. That’s not a contradiction. A contradiction would be the Quran saying A about Iblis in one instance, then saying B in another. But there’s isn’t a single verse in the Quran that states Iblis is an angel, then a jinn. The reason it says “We said to the angels” is because besides Iblis, practically all of the creatures commanded by God in heaven were angels. This never caused any confusion, and no mufasir I know of in history ever thought Iblis was an Angel. Feel free to cite one who did. It’s only the Bible that contradicts itself on this matter. The Bible does away with the entire essence of what an Angel is. Angels are supposed to be perfect servants of God, yet we’re told that Lucifer is an Angel that disobeyed God while at the same time being told that angels “holy” Pslam 89:5. It’s also strange that the Bible never mentions the concept of “fallen angels” yet Christians still believe it. Satan is not an Angel and never was. That’s just a malicious lie probably made by Satan himself. Doesn’t your own Bible warn you against believing this? *”And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.”* [2 Corinthians 11:14]
Iblis's Arrogance Almighty Allah also revealed: And surely, We created you (your father Adam) and then gave you shape (the noble shape of a human being), then We told the angels, "Prostrate to Adam'; and they prostrated, except Iblis, he refused to be of those who prostrate. (Allah) said: 'What prevented you (0 Iblis) that you did not prostrate, when I commanded you?" (Iblis) said: "I am better than him (Adam), You created me from fire, and him You created from clay." (Allah) said: "0 Iblis, get down from this (Paradise), it is not for you to be arrogant here. Get out, for you are of those humiliated and disgraced." Quran Ayah 7:11-13 Iblis's Vow for Evil (Iblis) said: "Allow me respite till the Day they are raised up (i.e. The Day of Resurrection)." (Allah) said: "You are of those allowed respite." (Iblis) said: "Because You have sent me astray, surely I will sit in wait against them (human beings) on Your Straight Path. Then I will come to them from before them and behind them, from their right and from their left, and You will not find most of them as thankful ones (i.e. they will not be dutiful to You)." (Allah) said (to Iblis): "Get out from this (Paradise) disgraced and expelled. Whoever of them (mankind) will follow you, then surely I will fill Hell with you all." Quran Ayah 7:14-18 Eating from the Forbidden Tree "And 0 Adam! Dwell you and your wife in Paradise, and eat thereof as you both wish, but approach not this tree otherwise you both will be of the Zalimeen (unjust and wrong-doers)." Then Satan whispered suggestions to them both in order to uncover that which was hidden from them of their private parts (before); he said: "Your Lord did not forbid you this tree save you should become angels or become of the immortals." And he (Satan) swore by Allah to them both (saying): "Verily, I am one of the sincere well-wishers for you both." So he misled them with deception. Then when they tasted of the tree, that which was hidden from them of their shame (private parts) became manifest to them and they began to stick together the leaves of Paradise over themselves (in order to cover their shame). And their Lord called out to them (saying): "Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you: Verily, Satan is an open enemy unto you?" They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves. If You forgive us not, and bestow not upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be of the losers." Allah said: "Get down, one of you an enemy to the other (i.e. Adam, Eve, and Satan, etc.). On earth will be a dwelling-place for you and an enjoyment, - for a time." He said: "Therein you shall live, and therein you shall die, and from it you shall be brought out (i.e., resurrected). Quran Ayah 7:19-25
The Quran is the work of the creator of the universe Bible says a lot of inaccurate things like calling Kings of Egypt Pharaoh when Pharaoh didn’t even exist and it says that Pharaoh drowned. The Quran quotes him preserved as a sign to be later discovered by a similarly arrogant people just like Pharaoh, amazing also the signature of the planet is written in our hand 19 bones in your hand and 8 bones in your wrist 8min and 19 seconds for the light to travel to our earth from our sun all mad possibilities for human advancement and end time’s prophecy is the Last and final scripture from the maker of all known and unknown things. Jesus will return during Armageddon to destroy false gods and the anti-Christ Dejal programmed by God to misguide the ignorant and arrogant war makers Nuclear smack.
Where do you even get these ideas from? I'm stunned. Islam started years after prophet Mohammed begum his prophethood. The Quran wasn't written it was revealed by God to the prophet and the written down to make it accessible. So what's all these? If you want to convert muslims into christianity, I this how you should do it? Your religion is from God right? So is islam. And making all these claims is blasphemy. It's a direct insult to God himself since he's the one who appointment prophet Mohammed to reveal his words. History proves the prophet was an illiterate. How then did he write the qur'an? Stop this. Islam Is a peaceful religion so stop trying to create problems.
Thomas Alexander is the best new voice in this sphere
I see thomas, I click
@@JesusisaMuslim Do you mean you come biased and closed instead of open minded?
@@JesusisaMuslim start a channel refute with counter evidence
@@JesusisaMuslim I don't see any debunking here.
@@JesusisaMuslim
It's not new, and you have NO answer, the second part of your comment was also irrelevant and basically a red herring fallacy :)
Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage, including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
16 क्योंकि परमेश्वर ने जगत से ऐसा प्रेम रखा कि उस ने अपना एकलौता पुत्र दे दिया, ताकि जो कोई उस पर विश्वास करे, वह नाश न हो, परन्तु अनन्त जीवन पाए।
यूहन्ना 3:16
17 परमेश्वर ने अपने पुत्र को जगत में इसलिये नहीं भेजा, कि जगत पर दंड की आज्ञा दे परन्तु इसलिये कि जगत उसके द्वारा उद्धार पाए।
यूहन्ना 3:17
18 जो उस पर विश्वास करता है, उस पर दंड की आज्ञा नहीं होती, परन्तु जो उस पर विश्वास नहीं करता, वह दोषी ठहर चुका; इसलिये कि उस ने परमेश्वर के एकलौते पुत्र के नाम पर विश्वास नहीं किया।
यूहन्ना 3:18
19 और दंड की आज्ञा का कारण यह है कि ज्योति जगत में आई है, और मनुष्यों ने अन्धकार को ज्योति से अधिक प्रिय जाना क्योंकि उन के काम बुरे थे।
यूहन्ना 3:19
20 क्योंकि जो कोई बुराई करता है, वह ज्योति से बैर रखता है, और ज्योति के निकट नहीं आता, ऐसा न हो कि उसके कामों पर दोष लगाया जाए।
यूहन्ना 3:20
21 परन्तु जो सच्चाई पर चलता है वह ज्योति के निकट आता है, ताकि उसके काम प्रगट हों, कि वह परमेश्वर की ओर से किए गए हैं।
यूहन्ना 3:21
What is this?
@@meusisto passage from John 3:16-21 in Hindi language
@@JesusisaMuslim no serious person would exegete the passage the way in which you did. Even if that were the case there are other passages which contradict your opinion.
@@JesusisaMuslim that's the problem. You are cherry picking few passages and building a whole narrative out of it.
Its true that Jesus fulfilled old testament prophecies, but based on the context of this passage it doesn't seem to indicate that it is fulfilling Isaiah 45 prophecy. If that were the case in most of the cases author would quote the passage, but that doesnt seem to be the case.
Also the way in which you interpret passage from Isaiah is weird. Here, 'world without end' means 'forever' or 'eternity'. It doesnt make sense if you read it as world of Israel. Its just bad interpretation of passage.
@@JesusisaMuslim concerning Jesus calling non Israelite pigs, you are not reading the passages in its context. In this context it just means people who are not receptive of the Gospel are referred metaphorically as swines not gentiles
And when he called samaritan woman dog. The greek word refers here to 'pet dog' not 'wild dogs' nothing derogatory, and he is speaking in metaphors not literally. Also Jesus was also testing the faith of this woman, thats why he speaks like that. Lastly he respects the faith of this woman and does miracle.
Jesus' ministry was primarily to Jews, and he spent most of his ministry in Israel. Jesus when he saw the faith of gentiles like Centurion he says, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith".
And when he saw faith of Samaritan woman Jesus says, "“Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.”
In both these examples it shows that he doesn't reject gentiles, instead Jesus respects their faith. Also when Greeks came to Jesus to speak with him he says, “The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified” . This doesn't seem to reject non Jews.
Also if you read John 10, it is very clear he is talking about gentiles being brought in his kingdom. Lastly Jesus at Matthew 28 gives great commission to preach Gospel to all nations. If Jesus wanted he could have said only preach in Judea or to Jews but he didn't, but he specifically asks them to preach to whole world.
I could show other Bible passages also but I think I have made my point.
Short and to the point. Keep them coming.
Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
@@davidzack8735 Have you seen Thomas Alexander's main series on "The Origins of Islam"? That adresses these matters. This here is just a series of brief tasters for those of us with a shorter concentration span.
@@markaxworthy2508 Why should I want to watch any more videos. Thomas claiming that the name Muhammad refers to Jesus Christ is ludicrous. As is his claim that the early Muslims were Christians and that there never was a Battle of Yarmuk or a conquest of Jerusalem in 637CE. 🤣
@@davidzack8735 You ask, "Why should I want to watch any more videos. " Perhaps because most of the matters you raised in your first post here are covered by Thomas Alexander's "The Origins of Islam" series? We don't have to agree with our opponents, but being aware of their arguments is better than being in ignorance of them, because one can't counter what one is unaware of.
@@markaxworthy2508 I did watch the videos, mate. That's why I said that Thomas's claims that Muhammad is a title used for Jesus Christ is beyond ludicrous. 🤣
This is excellent yet again Thomas!
Will you be making any videos in future covering other topics such as the duality of the shahada?
Thank you. That particular topic is not in my list yet, but of course I will cover many more topics.
I really Hope Alonzo doesn’t come here and desperately try to change the whole topic with “Straw-man” fallacies..
I hope he comes and keep seeing the truth.
Alonzo is hurt, desperate, frustrated and looking for meaning. He is not finding and his quest continues in Christian channels.
who?
@@pebblesintheshoe4438 He could go to Orthodox Shahada channel then.
@@meusisto Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage, including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
very good graphic exposition and helps a lot the explanation. Good job....
You gotta dumb it down for people by showing them cartoon like graphics
@@ranasalman5259 hmmmmm... u dumb thinking that graphics are only meant to be like table or graph or chart???? dumb it down??
Adam had 1 Eve, but mohammed had 11 Eves at some point. And muslims are allowed to have 4 Eves. Very weird that Adam had only one Eve.
This is brilliant Thomas, somehow we need get Muslims to be watching these vids
Well, it's a good bet that Professor Alonso will be watching it...
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Why?
@@horseradishpower9947 hhh spot on Aishalonzo will be here shortly lol
Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
@@horseradishpower9947 Fun fact. The existence of Muhammad is testified by several 7th century documents especially Sebeos in his History of Heraclius in which Muhammad and his followers are described as the Sons of Ishmael who attacked Byzantines and Persians. All this is backed up by the plethora of Islamic inscriptions on Byzantine and Persian coinage including Persian coins in the name of Muawiya, Yazid and even his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. 😁
Superrrb presentation, hands down the Quran has Aramaic influences.Good job Thomas, keep churning more videos.Knowledge is POWER.
Of course the Quran has Aramaic influences. Fun fact. Islam is the only religion based on two previous religions which then instructs its followers to wage war against the adherents of the two previous religions. 😁
All this guy has presumptions.
The word Adam is not Aramaic it is Arabic, and means „dark skinned“
Eve/Havva is Arabic and most the „all inclusive“ .. how Aramaic is that?
@@samernattifi3883 Did you not know that the story of Adam and Eve is an ancient Jewish creation myth? 😁
@@davidzack8735 lol, the story existed long before jews did. Besides early jews were Arabs, and it was Arabs who spread Judaism all over the world especially after the Nabateans converted to Judaism
It's ironic that before the video, RUclips puts in ads where we have to endure fundraising pitches from Muslims!
Double whammy. Let them pay for this content. 👍🏻
Great work Thomas.
the micro chip was great,inventing nonsense to explain a lie
Thank you.
genuine question, if islam is a religion of peace, why are sunni and shia countries attacking each other?
Great work, thank you so much
Well explained 👍
Great work Thomas. The graphics are excellent.
Yes, only the graphics
What a talent. Have you come a cross a book by McFadden, McFadden_2021_Life_Is_Simple_How_Occam's_Razor_Set_Science_Free_and_Shapes_the_Universe?
You seem to apply Occam's Razor every time you upload a video in the jungle of confusion called Islam, Muslims, and Islam Studies.
Thank you, I'm not aware of the book you mentioned, but I am of course familiar with Occam's Razor.
You are correct, which is another indication that the Quran was initially never intended to be a holy book, rather it referenced passages in scripture (and apocrypha) and presumed that the readers (or listeners) were familiar with those scriptures.
In the Bible, you can see the following:
- Adam and Eve sinned,
- They tried to cover their own sin(nakedness) with leaves. They tried to fix their mistakes by themselfs.
- God provided the covering for their sin with animal skin(blood sacrifice)
Only God can cover for our sin.
Thank you Lord for the work on The Cross!
Thank you Lord for the sacrifice of your Son Jesus Christ!
Nope, nakedness is not sin....
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Genesis 2:25 KJV
@@andrevisser7542 that was before the fall.
@@MU-we8hz, exactly so nakedness isn't sin....
1 samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
The Qur'an is sent to confirm and correct corruption in previous scripture
Great material! The Quran's dependence on Apocrypha rather than the Bible is such an interesting question. Linking the tale of Adam and Eve to St Ephraim and the Syrian tradition also shows that the faith influencing or the source of the quranic text was more likely that of Syrians than of Ebionite Jews?
alot of heretics that was exiled was sent to arabia ( syria+iraq)
Excellent work
By your video you suggest that the interpretation of Satan being the serpent is exclusive to the cave of treasures however the idea of Satan being the serpent can be found in the Book of Revelations written in the 1st century, suggesting early Christians not just the ones in Iraq who likely compiled the cave of treasures, believed the same thing. Also you say that both the Cave of Treasures and the Quran call the tree as “The Tree of Life” but the Quran does not say that, the Quran calls the tree “The Tree” الشجرة, maybe Muslims associated the tree with the tree of life but no where in the Quran does it call it that. Lastly, Satan is not eager to see Adam and Eve naked, no where does Satan mention in his manifesto to tempt Adam and Eve is to see them naked but rather for them to disobey God. The two becoming/noticing their nakedness after eating the fruit is not exclusive to Christian Aramaic literature and can be found in early Jewish literature. So, from your perspective as a Christian I presume, you may believe that Islam is the mixture of Christian and Jewish beliefs, however to say it is influenced form Aramaic speaking Christians from this video at least, is false.
Hi Thomas a small off topic Question to you...in your knowledge is there a German research team like Inarah that does Research on the origins of Hinduism???? Sorry for the off topic talk but just wanted to ask...Thanks.
@Yakov Matityahu יעקב מתתיהו I am not Thomas...
The 18th century Indian books do not talk about a religion called Hinduism.
They only talk about Brahmin religion (other than Buddhist and Jainist).
So "Hinduism" is an 18th (may be 19th) century invention.
There is nothing to research on the subject.
@lucifer himself 18th AD.
India never had a religion called Hindu/Hindi. It was a word used by the Arabs and Persians, to mean "Indian". Acc. to Persians, the northern region of India was "Hindustan".
Only since about the 18th century, "Hindu" has been the term to describe a hotch-potch of belief systems, which have been subservient to the Brahmin religion.
@@vicmath1005 i am studying the origins of this cult hinduism too and believe me its more mysterious and cooked up than islam 😅
@@vicmath1005 hinduism has a more ancient connection than islam so studying its roots are more difficult because of lack of literature and contemporary evidence
@lucifer himself there was no hinduism of today before 4th century. All the hindu gods and godesses appear after 4th century with a few exceptions
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Correct me If my theory is wrong but I wonder why if the quran was muttawattir and known to masses of people why label a specific name to it why call it the reading of hafs qalon nafi etc... why not name it the ahruf of so and so why are these specific names given to it and why does the chain stop with hafs qalon nafi why does it not continue I believe these questions are overlooked what say you sir?
the meaning of Qur'an doesn't get enough this kind of thing.
Is it the cave of treasures where Momo got squeezed to read?
This school of scholars doubt even the existence of muhammad. They say muhammad most probably never existed. With good research materials though.
@@exzoro8193 Mo is the best lol
Without any question, the authors of the Quran plagiarized many previous religious texts which had been written centuries before the so called “ The Recitations of Mohammed “.
Please give the names of these 'people' who you claim wrote the nonsensical mishmash of Christian and Jewish scriptures, myths, legends and apocryphal stories and pseudo-gospels that make up most of the Quran. 😁
Thanks!
Can you please discuss about the origin of `the cave of treasures', its author and its historicity?
It’s beyond the scope of my videos, but here’s a quick overview:
1) It is falsely attributed to St Ephrem of Edessa (d. 373 AD)
2) In reality, it was written around 600 AD, possibly a bit earlier
3) It retells the biblical history from creation all the way to Jesus
4) It puts its own spin on things and changes some things around, like the tree in paradise, but also the location of the crucifixion which according to the Cave of Treasures happened on the Rock in Jerusalem.
5) It quickly became extremely popular among Aramaic speaking Christians.
What does the Rig Vedas say about Adim & Hawa mmmm Admi ka Bacha ?!!!!
Actually the plagiarization of previous texts is obiquitous in the Quran. They are things that are never found in the Bible, but found in Apocrypha (now tell me about corrupting Scriptures hu? :) ). Take a look a just some examples from the Apocrypha:
- Jesus creates birds: Gospel of Thomas volume 1 pages 144 - copied in Quran 3.49 Quran 5.110
- Jesus talks while still a baby: Arabic Infancy Gospel - copied in Quran 19:30.34
- Mary receives food from God: Proto-gospel of James - copied in Quran 3.37
- Miracle of the palm tree and the source of water: Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew ch. 20 copied in Quran 19.23-26
- Proto-Gospel of James: plagiarized in Surat Al-Imran 3: 35-36:
- Noble genealogy from the great patriarchs: Protoevangel I: 1 - Quran III: 33-34
- The Vow of Hannah: Protoevangel IV: 1 - Quran III: 35
- Birth of Mary (Protoevangel V: 2) (Quran III: 36)
- God accepts Mary's consecration (Protoevangel V : 1) (Koran III : 37)
- Mary's exemplary and spotless upbringing (Protogospel V : 1) (Koran III : 37)
- Mary adopted by the priest Zakariah (Protoevangel VII: 2-3 and VIII: 1) (Quran III: 37)
- The angels bring food to Mary (Protoevangel VIII : 1) (Koran III : 37)
- Zakariah became mute (Protoevangel X : 2) (Koran III : 41)
- The angels exalt Mary (Proto-Gospel XI: 1) (Quran III: 42)
- The casting of lots for the care of Mary (Prot. VIII: 2-3 and IX. 1) (Quran III: 44)
- The Annunciation to Mary (Prot. XI: 2-3) (Qur'an III: 45-47).
These are only very few examples. All can be checked by yourself online. There is also a huge pastiche of Bible passages, not attributed to the proper authors.
Where do I find these gospels (Gospel V: 2) (Gospel X: 2) etc.?
Are you sure these passages were "plagiarized"? The sheer quantity of them, as well as their content, speaks to me of a sincere desire to spread Christian stories among the people of the Arabian peninsula, in a summarized form, rather than convince them of a completely new faith.
I'm under the impression that Mohammed was a Christian, at least in the first part of his adult life. An agressive one, an Aryan, but a Christian. I think that "Disbelievers" are people who refuse to believe in this Judeo-Christian monotheistic religion he was spreading.
But then, I wasn't there and then to say for sure.
@@rmwillhoite My fault when translating these notes that I had written in French. It's simply the same Proto-Gospel aforementioned, chapter and verse.
I don’t think it’s “plagiarism” rather clarification because different disciples had different views on the events of each past prophet,the Quran came to correct each story and add on to what man kind doesn’t know or what the disciples couldn’t speak about,like the final supper where Jesus knew his death was coming,or what happened to the people during the time after God gave Moses the permission to split the sea and made the people of the pharaoh drown.The Quran came to clarify but also still continue spreading the same message of all the past prophets before prophet Muhammad pbuh that “worship your true lord for your lord is 1 and to not associate God with anyone or anything”
How can they in any way be plagiarisation rather its the correct version of the stories?? How exactly sure are you the Bible is correct?? And not to mention there are many stories from Bible in Quran as well. So that's it. All are interlinked. Apocryphal or not, Qur'an has clearly rejected many apocryphal narrations. Why?? Qur'an only takes the true versions of the story since it is revealed by God himself
The clothes of Adam and Eve and the Iblıs worshipping details come from Jewish legends before entering Aramaic legends.
Keep it up.
Thankyou Thomas
Nothing in the Quran matches with the Bible but twisted which means the writers were aware of their false caution but used Black marking
I see that the Jews had the star of David as it's sign. The Christians had the cross of Jesus as it's sign. While Islam has the pagan crescent moon of Baal as it's sign.
Morocco using octagram sign
@@yousuf6382 The Crescent moon symbol in the middle east was also the pagan symbol for Baal/Moon god/Satan, long before Islam. It clearly looks like Islam is saying Allah is the moon god.
I am a Muslim and I don't believe crescent to be our sign. I have never seen it in any of the Muslim houses that I have visited.
@@ranasalman5259 Because you understand how embarrassing it is to have a Pagan symbol for Islam. For hundreds of years after Mohammed, nearly every country or group of people had a flag. So 800yrs after Mohammed Islam slowly adopted the Crescent moon and star as their sign. The crescent moon and star, as with the Cross for Christianity and the Star of David for Judaism, is today a common and almost universal symbol for Islam.
It is used on countless mosques and minarets, by charities, and as part of the flags for various Muslim nations, including, Algeria, Azerbaijan, Comoros Islands, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Pakistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Uzbekistan, and Western Sahara.
@@ishtarlew598 i can't read your rant. Crescent symbol is not Muslim identity like your cross.
The Quran mentions numerous prophets and messengers from the past, highlighting their stories, teachings, and the guidance they received from Allah (God). Here are a few examples of Quranic verses that mention some of the previous prophets:
Prophet Adam (Adam):
"And [mention] when your Lord said to the angels, 'Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority.' They said, 'Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?' Allah said, 'Indeed, I know that which you do not know.'" (Quran 2:30)
Prophet Noah (Nuh):
"We sent Noah to his people, and he said, 'O my people, worship Allah; you have no deity other than Him. Indeed, I fear for you the punishment of a tremendous Day.'" (Quran 7:59)
Prophet Abraham (Ibrahim):
"Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists." (Quran 3:67)
Prophet Moses (Musa):
"And We certainly sent Moses with Our signs, [saying], 'Bring out your people from darknesses into the light and remind them of the days of Allah.' Indeed in that are signs for everyone patient and grateful." (Quran 14:5)
Prophet Jesus (Isa):
"[Mention] when the angels said, 'O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah ].'" (Quran 3:45)
These are just a few examples, and the Quran mentions many more prophets, including Prophet David (Dawud), Prophet Solomon (Sulaiman), Prophet Joseph (Yusuf), and many others. The stories and teachings of these prophets are spread throughout the Quran, serving as lessons and guidance for humanity.
in Islam, Muslims are those who believe in the teachings of all the prophets and messengers sent by Allah (God), including Prophet Adam, Prophet Noah, Prophet Abraham, Prophet Moses, Prophet Jesus, and the final Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon them all).
Muslims consider all the prophets and messengers as bearers of divine guidance, and they believe that their teachings were intended to guide humanity towards righteousness, monotheism, and submission to the will of Allah. Muslims also believe that Prophet Muhammad was the last and final messenger, and his message, as revealed in the Quran, encompasses and completes the previous messages.
Believing in the teachings of all the prophets is one of the fundamental principles of Islam. Muslims regard these prophets as exemplary individuals who demonstrated obedience, patience, and unwavering faith in Allah, and their stories serve as lessons and inspiration for Muslims to follow in their footsteps and live a righteous life.
The Quran mentions that Islam is the complete and perfected religion ordained by Allah (God). Here are a few verses that highlight this concept:
"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion." (Quran 5:3)
"And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers." (Quran 3:85)
"And whoever submits his face to Allah while being a doer of good - then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold. And to Allah will be the outcome of [all] matters." (Quran 31:22)
These verses emphasize that Islam, as revealed in the Quran, is a comprehensive and final guidance from Allah. It is considered the perfected way of life that encompasses all aspects of human existence, including faith, worship, morality, social conduct, and legal principles. The Quran portrays Islam as the ultimate and complete path to salvation and fulfillment in this life and the hereafter.
Muslims believe that the Prophet Muhammad, as the final messenger, received the Quran as the last and most comprehensive revelation from Allah. It abrogates any previous religious laws or practices that were specific to a particular time or community, and it encompasses the universal principles applicable to all people throughout history.
It is important to note that Islam recognizes and respects the earlier religious traditions and prophets, considering them as precursors to the final message of Islam. However, it asserts that Islam is the culmination and fulfillment of those previous revelations, providing the most complete and comprehensive guidance for humanity.
al lah has no son, but 3 daughters,
yahweh has a son but 3 daughters.
how can be same god, understand. my friend
quran s 53:19 So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza?
20 And Manat, the third - the other one?
21 Is the male for you and for Him the female?
22 That, then, is an unjust division.
was not your profit mu ham mad said that al lah's 3 daughter must worship? my friend
so you have 1 al lah with 3 daughters and one al lah with no son, my friend you have 2 al lahs?
Ok.that's not all. A more important piece of data: in Genesis, the name "Adam" appears at first only in GEn 4:25 whose author is called "Redactor",i.e. that final, i.e. after the Cleansing of the Temple in 164 BC by Juda Maccabi after conquering Greeks.In the story of Garden (Gen 2) there is no name "Adam" only "the human" (in Eng.), the term "adam"(Hebr.)-not Adam,a person's name! The same inGen 5 whose source is different from J, E, and P and is called "Other'(R.E.Friedman, The Bible with the Sources Revealed",2003 plus probably any more advanced Commentary). Consequently, if the author of the Quran, "revealed"in 7th cent. CE was Allah@Mohammed@angel Gabriel they were stubborn idiots because they did have not enough time to learn the divine part of science, called hermeneutics in order to know the original source from the 10th and 9th cent. BCE when Gen 2-4 originated - this span of time was (10+7=17 centuries)!
Can you do a video on how the Quran corrected the mistakes in the Bible if it was copied
Aramic language is basically a emperor Ram ‘s language.
Arabic language is basically a emperor Rab ‘s language, both were from India.
Can you understand this ?
A is added in beginning or end in Middle East or India 🇮🇳,
Abraham = Brahama, ( Abrahamic )
Brahama = Abraham ( Brahamaic
Adam = dam ,
Allah = the raja Lah son of Rama, ( Islamic) ,
Languages in Islamic history,
Aramic = a Ram- ic , is Ram’s language,
Arabic = a rab ‘s language, also
Arab- ic =Arab ‘s language.
Rama and Rab is Indian kings , long ago, as gods / Bhagwan.
Is- Lah م , worshiper’s of Lah .
is - ra - el , means children of king Ra ,
is - ma- el , means children of king Ma .
Who was king Ra or king Ma , in history?
Al gor,
Al Roy,
Al Lah ,
Alexander , Al - Skandar, also Quran called same manas Dulqurnan.
I think Adam creation from clay is a metaphor since Genesis uses metaphors.
Clay and breath of God: matter and spirit, so is a traditional interpretation of this.
@@meusisto what god
@@donhue4546 What is your doubt?
@@meusisto if you create a human,surely you are the father
@@meusisto dont reply with the chair nonsense
uhmmmm it's blasphemous to have images of a naked man & woman next to a quran as depicted in your clip.
Wrong. There’s no specific tree of ‘life’ mentioned in the Quran [which is, on your part spreading misinformation]. It was simply a forbidden tree. And if it was truly ‘copied’ then Eve would have been blamed for eating the Fruit just how it mentions in the bible that Eve ate the fruit first and opened Pandora’s box. Quran doesn’t blame Eve for eating the fruit. Rather it says that Adam pbuh and his wife both ate the forbidden [unknown] fruit. Quran does have similar stories to the bible in its correct [non-sexist] form. The reason being because the prophet pbuh was a succession of Jesus pbuh. So he was revealed the same stories as Jesus was. Same thing with story of Sheba and Soleman pbuh. Same thing with Moses pbuh. Yusuf pbuh. Even the story of iblis is similar except he wasn’t an angel, but rather jinn, made of smoke. If the same God is re-sending a message, it would make sense that the stories are similar. Muslims don’t reject Moses or Jesus. We just don’t believe Jesus is God.
Did you understand that it doesn't even quote from the Bible in this story, but actually from the Cave of Treasures?
Momo was not a successor of Jesus but of Isa not the same person.. Jesus is God. Isa is not..
@@meusisto he talks about the comparison between the biblical narrative in genesis and the Quranic narrative…and how the the cave of treasures/armaic influence ‘explains’ the difference between the differences between the two stories…and connects the tree to salvation…he probably never even read the Quranic version because there is no ‘tree of life’ mentioned…spreading misinformation for his own gains…and ppl like you are the bait…like at least if your going to try to explain/make connections do it honestly…
@@suga9875 Jesus pbuh is not God. Jesus IS Isa. And yes prophet Muhammad pbuh would be the last prophet
@@suga9875 Isa is a fake Momo created.
I am only laughing at these videos. Someone who has read islamic history and books will never fall for your traps.
The quranic stories are so plagiarized
Bruh. This is so false
The Genesis stories were copy work too. For instance, Adam & Eve and the garden of Eden (and the tree) were already known by the Phoenicians 800 years *before* the Jews came into existence.
Its Human story i mean the origin of Human story...so obviously everyone will know about their origin...so what if the Jews got this info from Phoenicians...afterall its the origin story of us all....isnt it?
@first name second name The first five books of the Old Testament (also called five books of Moses), as we now have them, were written only in the 6th century BC.
So, by that time, the story of Moses was already 700 years old. The book writers must have written about Moses based on what they remembered from oral stories.
Anything before the time of Moses was almost certainly nothing more than fiction. It served merely as an introduction to Moses.
None of them are copywork. This isn't a story; it's history. It's also the first step of faith. Knowing that we are fallen and that we all sin but you must repent. That's why certain people care so much about pushing evolution. I wasn't even alive when they "debated" this. Now it's accepted everywhere here and academia and mainstream media try very hard to make you think that doubting evolution makes you low iq.
In the Quran, the blame were put on both of them, Adam n Eve but in the Bible, Adam blamed the woman. This is what I would call the original misogyny.
Thomas, you forgot to provide the actual Quranic narrative, probably because what you call in English "The Quran" mentions no such story as Adam and Eve. So either your research lacks integrity due to incompetence or your work is completely agenda based.
Would be great if you could explain to us what the expression "القرآءن" means in English? Should be easy since you say it's aramaic right?
Mahshallah Thomas, very good.
So Islam is false ?
The famous Islamic troll is here...
Please lose the CLANG CLANG CLANG beginning.
This is the last video with the clangs.
It's now my ring tone.
Apocalypse of Abraham
THERES NO EVE IN QURAN, WHO CREATED EVE ??? SATAN WAS CAST OUT AFTER HE NEVER BOWED TO ADAM ,SO HOW SATAN RETUN TO TEMPT ADAM AND HIS WIFE ???
Personally, the Bible version when pieced together makes more sense. The first problem with the Quranic version is in Surah Quran 2:30. If all that God had made was perfect, why would the angels be suspicious over the creation of Man? Were some of the Jinn created to do evil? In the Quran, Iblis who is presumably Satan, rebelled against Adam which became his downfall.
The Bible teaches us that Satan was created as the most beautiful of God's angels. He wanted to be like the Most High and be worshiped. He rebelled against God and led a revolt with a third of the angels joining in. Getting Adam to disobey God would be a bonus and the reason he told Eve that God didn't mean they would die. It meant God didn't want them to be as gods making and following their own rules.
I wonder at some point if they're the same stories and where Muhammad got his information from which seems a consistent theme when comparing common stories of the two books.
The creation myth in the Quran is spliced together from different apocryphal sources. One that wasn’t mentioned in the video is the Gnostic Gospel of Bartholomew which explains the fall of Satan in the same terms as the Quran.
And yes, this lead to contradictions. There is for example the clear implication that Iblis/Satan was an Angel whereas later he is a Jinn.
The angels became suspicious because God was about to create a creation in His image with free will to act however they choose. See Quran 2:30. The concept of Satan being more “beautiful” and “better” in appearance is implied throughout the Quran. One example-
*“Allah asked, O Iblîs! What is the matter with you that you did not join others in prostration?’*
*He replied, ‘It is not for me to prostrate to a human You created from sounding clay moulded from black mud.’”* (15:32-33)
Another example-
“He replied, ‘I am better than he is: You created me from fire and him from clay.’”* (7:12)
Also, the reason jinns were created is answered in the Quran Itself.:
*”I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me.*
*I seek no provision from them, nor do I need them to feed Me.”*
*Indeed, Allah ˹alone˺ is the Supreme Provider-Lord of all Power, Ever Mighty.”* (51:56-58)
Perhaps, if you’ve read the Quran more and stopped listening to paid shills online trying to debunk the truth, you wouldn’t be in so much confusion.
@@TAlexander Those gospels you call “apocryphal” are definitely far more historically reliable and accurate than that entire error-ridden New Testament cobbled together at Nicea.
There’s no where in the Quran where Iblis is said or implied to be an Angel. In fact, the Quran literally specifies that Iblis is a jinn in 18:50. Angels cannot disobey Allah. Only jinns and humans have free will, hence this verse 👇
*”Indeed, We have destined many jinn and humans for Hell. They have hearts they do not understand with, eyes they do not see with, and ears they do not hear with.”* (7:179)
No mention whatsoever of disobedient angels anywhere in the Quran. Lol. Someone recommended me your videos and I thought I was gonna be in for some groundbreaking information that would potentially shake my faith but its actually done the opposite. I’ve seen nothing new here, just the same old orientalist talking points. Gotta thank you for the iman boost dude! Really appreciate it. 😁
@@lightofilm6228 You seem to be I’ll informed on several counts:
1) The NT was not cobbled together at Nicaea
2) None of the Apocrypha mentioned here are anywhere near as old as the various books of the NT, meaning they’re less reliable
3) In Surah 7:11 we read: “Then We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblis. He was not of those who prostrated.”
Which clearly implies that Iblis was an Angel. God didn’t command the Jinn after all.
The truth is, it’s the Quran that was cobbled together from unreliable sources, like the ones mentioned here, centuries after the original. That’s why you have these internal contradictions like Iblis being both Jinn and Angel. Or Jesus dying and not dying at the same time.
@@TAlexander 1. Yes it was. Who canonized the NT gospels you have in your Bible today? It certainly wasn’t Jesus or the disciples.
2. Some of the gospels you Christians claim the Quran copied from have actually been sourced only a few decades to a 100 years after the supposed crucifixion. The Gospel of Thomas is an example, it contains some of the stories about Jesus speaking in the cradle and creating birds out of clay.
3. That’s not a contradiction. A contradiction would be the Quran saying A about Iblis in one instance, then saying B in another. But there’s isn’t a single verse in the Quran that states Iblis is an angel, then a jinn. The reason it says “We said to the angels” is because besides Iblis, practically all of the creatures commanded by God in heaven were angels. This never caused any confusion, and no mufasir I know of in history ever thought Iblis was an Angel. Feel free to cite one who did.
It’s only the Bible that contradicts itself on this matter. The Bible does away with the entire essence of what an Angel is. Angels are supposed to be perfect servants of God, yet we’re told that Lucifer is an Angel that disobeyed God while at the same time being told that angels “holy” Pslam 89:5. It’s also strange that the Bible never mentions the concept of “fallen angels” yet Christians still believe it. Satan is not an Angel and never was. That’s just a malicious lie probably made by Satan himself. Doesn’t your own Bible warn you against believing this?
*”And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.”* [2 Corinthians 11:14]
Hey hey. Eve also had a leaf bra?
Iblis's Arrogance
Almighty Allah also revealed: And surely, We created you (your father Adam) and then gave you shape (the noble shape of a human being), then We told the angels, "Prostrate to Adam'; and they prostrated, except Iblis, he refused to be of those who prostrate.
(Allah) said: 'What prevented you (0 Iblis) that you did not prostrate, when I commanded you?"
(Iblis) said: "I am better than him (Adam), You created me from fire, and him You created from clay."
(Allah) said: "0 Iblis, get down from this (Paradise), it is not for you to be arrogant here. Get out, for you are of those humiliated and disgraced." Quran Ayah 7:11-13
Iblis's Vow for Evil
(Iblis) said: "Allow me respite till the Day they are raised up (i.e. The Day of Resurrection)."
(Allah) said: "You are of those allowed respite."
(Iblis) said: "Because You have sent me astray, surely I will sit in wait against them (human beings) on Your Straight Path. Then I will come to them from before them and behind them, from their right and from their left, and You will not find most of them as thankful ones (i.e. they will not be dutiful to You)."
(Allah) said (to Iblis): "Get out from this (Paradise) disgraced and expelled. Whoever of them (mankind) will follow you, then surely I will fill Hell with you all." Quran Ayah 7:14-18
Eating from the Forbidden Tree
"And 0 Adam! Dwell you and your wife in Paradise, and eat thereof as you both wish, but approach not this tree otherwise you both will be of the Zalimeen (unjust and wrong-doers)."
Then Satan whispered suggestions to them both in order to uncover that which was hidden from them of their private parts (before); he said: "Your Lord did not forbid you this tree save you should become angels or become of the immortals." And he (Satan) swore by Allah to them both (saying): "Verily, I am one of the sincere well-wishers for you both."
So he misled them with deception. Then when they tasted of the tree, that which was hidden from them of their shame (private parts) became manifest to them and they began to stick together the leaves of Paradise over themselves (in order to cover their shame). And their Lord called out to them (saying): "Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you: Verily, Satan is an open enemy unto you?"
They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves. If You forgive us not, and bestow not upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be of the losers." Allah said: "Get down, one of you an enemy to the other (i.e. Adam, Eve, and Satan, etc.). On earth will be a dwelling-place for you and an enjoyment, - for a time." He said: "Therein you shall live, and therein you shall die, and from it you shall be brought out (i.e., resurrected). Quran Ayah 7:19-25
The word Adam is not Aramaic it is Arabic, and means „dark skinned“
Eve/Havva is Arabic and most the „all inclusive“ .. how Aramaic is that?
The Quran is the work of the creator of the universe Bible says a lot of inaccurate things like calling Kings of Egypt Pharaoh when Pharaoh didn’t even exist and it says that Pharaoh drowned. The Quran quotes him preserved as a sign to be later discovered by a similarly arrogant people just like Pharaoh, amazing also the signature of the planet is written in our hand 19 bones in your hand and 8 bones in your wrist 8min and 19 seconds for the light to travel to our earth from our sun all mad possibilities for human advancement and end time’s prophecy is the Last and final scripture from the maker of all known and unknown things.
Jesus will return during Armageddon to destroy false gods and the anti-Christ Dejal programmed by God to misguide the ignorant and arrogant war makers Nuclear smack.
This is a filler episode lol
They were not naked !
There was no garden !
No satan either .
Symbolic .
Where do you even get these ideas from? I'm stunned. Islam started years after prophet Mohammed begum his prophethood. The Quran wasn't written it was revealed by God to the prophet and the written down to make it accessible. So what's all these? If you want to convert muslims into christianity, I this how you should do it? Your religion is from God right? So is islam. And making all these claims is blasphemy. It's a direct insult to God himself since he's the one who appointment prophet Mohammed to reveal his words. History proves the prophet was an illiterate. How then did he write the qur'an? Stop this. Islam Is a peaceful religion so stop trying to create problems.
How did an illiterate quote Greek literature and classic Arabic poetry?