The advantage of Japanese BW is that because it used the traditional pen and paper approach to animation, they were able to incorporate more characters in the series. More characters means more merchandise to sell to audience.
Ironically, that’s part of what I love about OG Beast Wars that’s moved on to other series: a smaller cast you can really focus on instead of literally every toy that may get one highlight episode.
to be fair in asia sausages bought on shelves and eaten straight out of the wrapper is a common snack so it's the equivalent to say a bag of chips having a show advertisement
We have to give credit to Karyuudo Fansubs for finally subtitling BWll and BWNeo so we can enjoy them. It wasn't too long ago when information on these shows were scarce because no one had translated them.
Tbh BW Second, BW Neo, the japanese BW movie and Car Robots aka RiD 2001 have been in YT for years now. I watch them all last year during lock down. But yea, it’s nice to see them getting credit and recodnizion for doing the subs. Plus they made Armada sub aswell but I a dum dum and don’t know how to download it to watch it.
Big Convoy and his BIIIIIIIIIIG cannon. I do kinda like this setup here with the Maximal commanders: Optimus Primal is methodical, Lio Convoy is passionate, Big Convoy is uncomplicated.
Yeah. You know, I've always wondered why (in-universe) the Convoys share the same face design. Did they all have different faces before changing them when they became Convoys?
@@maximaldinotrap Right. But Lio Convoy and Big Convoy (as far as I know) aren't related except though title. Do Convoys just happen to have that face?
I may have learned more new Transformers facts this single episode than the rest of the year combined. It was definitely a big hole in my Transformers knowledge.
In hindsight, obviously, it's a bit surprising that II and Neo never got dubbed into English, especially during a time when Canada was importing and dubbing anime. Could just Gary Chalk it up to Hasbro not wanting to over saturate the market and confuse kids or anything.
Might have also been some stuff that might not have flown with American television standards of the time too. Apache gets drunk in the first episode of II.
@@michaelletherman3835 Though that's the only time he does and it never happens again. Still, the US censors would reject the whole episode outright for racial stereotyping.
No, I think there a lot of legitimate reasons they didn't get localized. Like the Predacus brothers being Mexican stereotypes - lazy, drunk mariachi players - and a lot of humor that doesn't make sense outside of Japan. Especially after the fiasco that was the Japanese dub of the original Beast Wars. I bet Hasbro was expecting a toned down version of the same thing again.
Honestly, Japans Beast era and the Unicron Trilogy are my favourite parts of the Transformers. And I seriously wish that we could get more proper figures of both eras, like what Lio Convoy has gotten. Because I want a decent update to BW Galvatron, that design is awesome.
Hasbro really needs to slow down with G1 and start using designs from the Unicron Trilogy and the Beast Era! Imagine modernised figures of Beast Machines Vehicons or new versions of the Armada cast!
@@livium9149 fr. Hasbro needs to remember that the kids who grew up watching the Unicron Trilogy are adults now too, and reminisce just as much as the people who were kids during G1. I hope that the Optimus Prime figure from last year(?), The one that combined the IDW Reboot look with a Power Suit that looked like TF Cybertron OP lets Hasbro know we want more.
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If you think about it, Car Robots is like Beast Wars II but reversed and set in different time period. But yeah, Lio Convoy aka Leo Prime is right after Optimus Primal; most famous Maximal commander while Big Convoy has been almost obscure Maximal commander. This was good 101 basics for Japanese Beast Era.
The fact that this man sits through every show that a character appears in to make a basics episode just goes to show how much effore he puts into these amazing videos.
I just love how beast wars II still tried to make sence with their beast forms for the most part choosing strong savanna animals(and a frog) but neo just trew that out of the window and had a team consisting of Penguin, bunny, tanuki, giraffe, cobra, horse with their leader being a mammoth. And It's not like the Opposite team made much sence with dorks including witch doctor stegosaurus and the ultimate shell former nautilus
Fun fact: Optimus Primal, in the Japanese dub, is voiced by Takehito Koyasu. Takehito Koyasu also voiced Dio in Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure, Zeke in Attack On Titan and Roswaal in Re:zero.
I'm just amazed it was apparently quicker to create two entirely new hand-drawn animated cartoons, and associated original merchandise, than just waiting for Season 2 of Beast Wars, and how much of a knock-on effect that's had down the years.
He got a cameo with Battle Unicorn in My Little pony X Transformers as Autobots competing in a equestrian race with Rainbow dash. They didn't help with the decepticon attack windblade helped. The same comic showed that Rarity could end Starscream while making friends with Arcee
Mach Kick, the one figure I transformed back and forth once and NEVER AGAIN. The design is impressive engineering wise, but is so fiddly and precise to get all together properly in horse mode it's a big NO FUN.
I gotta say, Japan putting a comedic twist on Beast sounds pretty hilarious. I wouldn't mind seeing more figures from BW II and Neo pop up in Transformers Earth Wars
Still, it leaves one to wonder how popular the franchise would be if they dubbed it accurately. Would it be even more popular because it could garner a more serious fan base, instead of the more casual one it gets in Japan for being known as a comedy show?
I will put it this way - the fan subs of Beast Wars are more popular in Japan than the gag dub they got officially, and there is at least one petition going around asking for a proper localization.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Yeah, that sounds understandable. People don't like it when anime from Japan is mistranslated during official dubs here or turned into gag dubs like some older releases. It was one thing to take a serious franchise like Transformers and ruin it with a lazy gag dub, but hearing that they continued giving the guy in charge of this decision to ability to continue doing this with other future transformers series dubs is just sad and mind boggling. Transformers may have been a huge hit in Japan or just bigger than it is right now had things been taken more seriously there. It would be like if the American dubs for something like Dragon Ball Z turned the entire series into a romcom on our end. There's no way DBZ would have been as big as it was in the states had that happened.
As neat as the Japanese Beast Wars stuff is and Lio Convoy is my favorite Maximal, I do gotta wonder what the hell was Takara thinking when it came to their handling of the brand starting with Beast Wars. It’s starting with the Japanese dub of BW that Transformers in Japan really began to be catered to a younger, younger audience, between the oddball jokes and alteration of the original scripts. That seemed to have carried over to BWII, Neo & Car Robots, and from then on the rest of the Japanese TFs alongside the Japanese dubs of Animated and Prime. There just seems to be this weird perception of robots with sentience & personality being treated as children’s fare in Japan, VS properties like Gundam, Evangelion & Macross where the piloted robots are treated with far more gravitas. Why is that, when Western media generally treats both types of Robot stories equally?
Don't know dude i really don't know But transformers being turned in to a full on comedy franchise does kinda piss me off (don't get the wrong idea comedy has always been a part of the franchise but having it as the main focus just seems wrong to me)
Japanese G1 was already plenty dumbed down. Just look at Cyclonus in Headmasters. In addition, some lines are dubbed so strangely than they've become memes. For example, when Cliffjumper says "I want to boot some Decepticon in his turbo charger", it's dubbed as "I want to turn the Decepticons into a bloodbath." Optimus' "I have an idea" was apparently rendered so melodramatically that it's become a huge meme, and every rendition of Optimus or Optimus-esque character will say it at least once. Megatron too had a memetic phrase: like the original, he often called Starscream "You damn fool" (kono orokamono me ga), and because he was Megatron saying "orokamono me-ga", the Japanese fandom found it hilarious. Japanese Beast Wars just took the existing trend in Japanese TF toward whacky and childish and dialed it up to the extreme, which was especially unfortunate because the original was one of the most mature and well written TF shows, as well as the first TF show to skew rather dark.
I’m still kicking myself because when I was last in Japan I had the opportunity to get an original Lio Convoy figure in Akihabara… and I forgot to buy it! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
I remember going to Comic-con back in 2000 and seeing all the japanese Beast Wars II and Neo Toys wondering who they were and even thought Lio Convoy was Optimus Primal's Brother since they all looked like Optimus Prime. I also remember someone having a TV set up and playing the fansubbed Beast Wars II anime on VHS. it wouldn't be years later until I spotted Lio Convoy's toy at a local comic shop that I begged my dad if he could get it for me because I liked it so much.
I only got into Beast Wars this year and it's always great to learn about the impact it's had, and the Japanese side is something I've been really keen on learning about, so this is really well timed :)
@@andrewgrant2990 every last one of em including all my original Beast Wars stuff too. All in storage though otherwise there'd be nowhere for me to live 😔 if I ever get the space I want to get them shelves.
@@Gaia_Gaistar That is so awesome! Thanks for the reply. A huge chunk of my BW stuff is missing, but I'm hoping to find a box. Also love the Tako tank & Heinrad. Some of the toys are kind of goofy awesome! Hopefully one day you can get the space you need.
@@andrewgrant2990 The fact we got stuff like horses, giraffes and a time traveling tanuki is what made the line so cool. I never got the giraffe or horse unfortunately, or Lio Convoy but I did get Big Convoy and Heinrad among a few others. Heinrad has a working clock built into him, it's neat. If you ever get the chance I recommend him just because of how weird he is.
Read Beast Wars the Gathering/The Ascending by Simon Furman. They star the non-show toy characters and include the Japanese Beast Wars characters. There's also the Transformers Universe material, that gives a starring role to Optimus Primal. Rather recently there's Beast Wars the Uprising, a super dark Beast Wars series starring Lio Convoy and reimagining plenty of classic Maximals and Predacons from both sides of the pond.
It's a common enough thing that I'd certainly point it out when he gets his own episode! You watch this comments section, I bet I get one or two saying I'm pronouncing it wrong! 😉
What I love most is the fact that Tokehito Koyasu who voices Dio from Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure, Paradox from Yu-Gi-Oh and Sartorius in Gx and Ozymandias, Hans Andersen and Mephistopheles from Fate/ Grand Order voices Optimus Primal in the japanese
I remember owning the combiner team that Lio Junior belonged to (don’t remember the other members’ names) as a kid. Didn’t know until many years later that they came from these shows.
The combiner team you're thinking of is Magnaboss (ironically, they didn't change the name of the team, even though they changed the individual character's names). And it was actually released in Hasbro markets first, THEN it went to Japan, where they repurposed it for the show.
DUDE! i cant tell how happy it made me seeing this thumbnail on my feed, I just finished Beast wars 2 Neo and...GOSH it's such a good series, i love it very much and i kinda wish it was aired in more places. i think the comedy&action ratio are just perfect to catch kids and adults alike
I have seen all of this shows, they are not for everyone, they have tone which is aimed for kids, but I liked them Specially Lio Convoy, Big Convoy, Heinard, Starscream (Who should´ve been called Skywarp) and Gigastorm. I liked Lio Convoy the most, but I must say I liked Beast Wars Neo much more than Beastwars II.
Very informative! I really like Lio Convoy's design, and I appreciate the fact that even though the continuity of these shows is kinda "meh", they took the time to try and tie it in with other Transformers media. Apparently, in the Japanese dub, Tigatron and Airazor had a sort of "Samurai and Ward" relationship, but when their romance REALLY began to show, the producers actually explained to the fans that they were in love. It's kind of cool and funny seeing as how many Transformers romances today (particularly in the comics) are often gay or asexual. The best part about it is that its treated as something completely normal among Transformers, and everyone is just ok with it (at least, that's how I saw it).
Wow 😯. There are so many aspects to this subject that can have there own “the basics”. I am glad to finally have some questions answered on this eclectic part of transformer history.
Oh I read the 'shut up' as playful like saying 'get out of town' or something. I will say this - the older you are the more relaxed you get about it. It's much harder to cope with while you're still relatively young. Like, when you realize you're older than the average check-out operator, that comes as a shock, even if you really ain't that old just then.
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Beasts Wars Neo was an amazing show that encourages the values of faith, friendship and family, a cartoon that showed how the greatest heroe can come from the must humblest place, and how the strenght of a family can stand anything
Beast Wars II has always been my jam. Beast Wars Neo as well, but I still have a LOT to catch up with there. Good thing we've got The Basics to help us out on that. :)
I remember loving the intros and outros to the Japanese Beast Wars, and Beast Wars Metals when I was a kid, and I still do! And it's through the Japanese Beast Wars I found two of my favorite Transformers robots. Beast Wars 2 Dirge and Powerpinch!
Both Beast Wars, Beast Wars Second and Neo aired in South Korea when I was like 5. So like how 70s or 80s grew up with G1, these were MY Transformers. Along with RID(2001) which also aired in South Korea.
I have such ridiculously fond memories of going to the sunday markets when I was a kid with my family. There was this one stall that imported all the Japanese beast era transformers, and as this was mid/late 90s they cost absolutely fuck all, so my folks always bought me one every weekend (as long as I behaved of course. . . ). Was so awesome having these way different and awesomely complicated transformers none of my mates had. Plus I don't really care for vehicular transformers, so all of a sudden having access to like 4× as many as toys r us had was damn nigh orgasmic. . .
I'm still sad & disappointed we never got these series to the states ( especially since the animators were behind Gundams/ Gow Gaigar at the time) but maybe in time, that'll change! ❤
One other Japanese Beast Wars character did get a homage in the American toys. There is a version of the Armada steam shovel retooled and repainted for Cybertron in homage to Longrack (the giraffe in Neo) including a new headsculpt resembling his. It actually works pretty well, since the extendable shovel-arm punch in robot mode is similar to the extending claw arm the original Longrack had as a gimmick.
I really enjoyed this video as I actually have two figures from the Japanese Beast Wars line (Stampy from BWN and Apache from BW2) so it was cool to see it explained more on where they actually came from.
Don’t forget that Longrack actually has gotten a “new” figure since BWII - specifically as a repaint of Armada Hoist in Transformers Cybertron. He even had an appearance in the anime.
I really enjoyed these shows. Saw the first 4 episodes of BWII at Botcon 98, and had bootleg VHS for years until the fansubs came out. But I'd definitely support any physical media release of II and Neo in North America. The movie in particular is pretty awesome
Honestly there's something hilarious about the thought that every Transformers series since has basically had nothing but gag dubs for the last 20 years. It would be an interesting look at the shows though, especially something as grim as Beast Machines
Yeah, I have that version. Never got the original giraffe. I should have grabbed him when he was more available back in the day and I was collecting the other BWN figures.
I have the Cybertron figure because I thought it looked cool. Finding out it was an homage to a BWII character surprised me. Finding out he had a similar personality as General Armstrong surprised me even more. "This technique has been passed down the Lockrack line for GENERATIONS!"
I have the OG Longrack, and it's definitely a bizarre piece. Pushing on the giraffe's tongue makes the eyes roll back, for some reason I still can't quite discern. I'd love to get Stampy or Break for the dumb weapon mode hookups.
I like the idea that the unused characters from the toyline were adopted by the Japanese series, and that it was supposed to be in the same continuity but at a different period in time. Suppose it was kind of like a shared universe a bit like the mcu or arrowverse
love the JPN exclusive series that tie into the g1 cartoon. Good memories of when I was a kid and when I got to share the toys and the cartoon with my kids .
I love the Japanese Beast Wars series, I especially love that the same characters appeared in the IDW BW comic. It's hard to believe that the Cybertron they rebuilt got trashed by Megs when he fell off the Ark shuttle though ;(
I wished both of Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo episodes are all in english dubbed on RUclips or released onto Complete DVD collection just like the CGI original Beast Wars Series 1996.
I’ve only just realised this but the Shigeru chiba (the guy who voices Megatron in the Japanese beast wars dub) is also Kyoryu Violet from Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger which is my favourite super Sentai series!!!!!!!
I love Beast wars 2, it’s my favorite series and besides I love every anime of transformers that you mentioned including the beast wars neo 🦭🧡💙❤️💚💞💕💜💝🤎🥰💖💖💜💜💜🥰
What remarkable timing. I was just conversing with an artist on Twitter, telling her about the connections between The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, the original dub of Dragon Ball Z, and Beast Wars/Machines via the voice casts. I had just started explaining how Beast Wars was handled in Japan, I can share this with her. More information in less time.
I think these cartoons and stories are wonderful all on their own, and I'm planning on featuring some of the characters from here along with American Beast Wars characters in my fanfiction as Cybertronian colonists of Ukaris.
The Beast Wars/Machines is my favorite line of the Transformers for using animals and other creatures as alternate forms, now I need to find the japanese episodes which I have never watched
even tho i never was born in japan nor did i ever go there but i did grow up with the japanese transformers including beast wars the reason how is me finding out what beast wars ii was when i was 10 years old and i was a huge transformers fan tbh and i watched it for the first time and i loved the show and i liked lio convoy so much
I recently binged neo all the way through and loved it, have encore big convoy and trying to collect the main predacon crew. It is a shame so many tf series are turned into jokes overseas, I wonder what Japanese fans think of our more serious versions?
I've got much of those series on fan-subbed vhs tapes, including car robo, which I haven't seen in decades. I enjoyed the characters from BWII and remember bits about Primal's appearance to help Lio out. I even have a Lio Convoy figure MIB.
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Whoops, slight correction necessary: it was Lio Convoy who sealed the Angolmois the Nemesis had sucked up into capsules, not the Nemesis itself!
Honest mistake.
Can you please do tailgate
You also forgot to mentioned how the Blue big convoy comic explain the Continuity error between Beast Machines and 2.
Plz do High tide
@@pixel4064
I think he did
The advantage of Japanese BW is that because it used the traditional pen and paper approach to animation, they were able to incorporate more characters in the series. More characters means more merchandise to sell to audience.
Ironically the Japanese Beast toys sold horribly
@@ycastro2003 yeah that's the irony.
Ironically, that’s part of what I love about OG Beast Wars that’s moved on to other series: a smaller cast you can really focus on instead of literally every toy that may get one highlight episode.
Despite the fact that Beast Wars OG was CGI, it had LOTS of toys for sale. Only about a third of the toys made it into the show, if that.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio And then the IDW comics happened.
"So...how should we advertise the new BWII special?"
"With *WIENERS."*
That is some good advertisement
to be fair in asia sausages bought on shelves and eaten straight out of the wrapper is a common snack so it's the equivalent to say a bag of chips having a show advertisement
@@carsonyeohkaisheng7542 Agreed!
They litterally do it with everything
Also, Asian sausage snacks aren't necessarily pork, they're usually made of fish paste.
We have to give credit to Karyuudo Fansubs for finally subtitling BWll and BWNeo so we can enjoy them. It wasn't too long ago when information on these shows were scarce because no one had translated them.
Appreciate the shout-out for our team's hard work in making this sub release a reality.
I think there were some, just not good quality.
@@KaryuudoFansubs thank for translating the blue big comic that explains the continuity error.
@@leo11lim You're most welcome!
Tbh BW Second, BW Neo, the japanese BW movie and Car Robots aka RiD 2001 have been in YT for years now. I watch them all last year during lock down. But yea, it’s nice to see them getting credit and recodnizion for doing the subs. Plus they made Armada sub aswell but I a dum dum and don’t know how to download it to watch it.
I still love that there’s a character named BIGGGG CONVOYYYY
Ain't he a beautiful sight?
Big Convoy and his BIIIIIIIIIIG cannon.
I do kinda like this setup here with the Maximal commanders: Optimus Primal is methodical, Lio Convoy is passionate, Big Convoy is uncomplicated.
Yeah. You know, I've always wondered why (in-universe) the Convoys share the same face design. Did they all have different faces before changing them when they became Convoys?
His father is Blue Big Convoy.
@@maximaldinotrap Right. But Lio Convoy and Big Convoy (as far as I know) aren't related except though title. Do Convoys just happen to have that face?
I may have learned more new Transformers facts this single episode than the rest of the year combined. It was definitely a big hole in my Transformers knowledge.
In hindsight, obviously, it's a bit surprising that II and Neo never got dubbed into English, especially during a time when Canada was importing and dubbing anime. Could just Gary Chalk it up to Hasbro not wanting to over saturate the market and confuse kids or anything.
Might have also been some stuff that might not have flown with American television standards of the time too. Apache gets drunk in the first episode of II.
@@michaelletherman3835 Though that's the only time he does and it never happens again. Still, the US censors would reject the whole episode outright for racial stereotyping.
No, I think there a lot of legitimate reasons they didn't get localized. Like the Predacus brothers being Mexican stereotypes - lazy, drunk mariachi players - and a lot of humor that doesn't make sense outside of Japan. Especially after the fiasco that was the Japanese dub of the original Beast Wars. I bet Hasbro was expecting a toned down version of the same thing again.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Yeah, I know, but I only saw like five episodes and that was the first thing I thought of.
Also, Kid taking a leak.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Also, yeah, the Jointrons.
Honestly, Japans Beast era and the Unicron Trilogy are my favourite parts of the Transformers.
And I seriously wish that we could get more proper figures of both eras, like what Lio Convoy has gotten.
Because I want a decent update to BW Galvatron, that design is awesome.
Mine too especially Lio Convoy! BWII Was pretty good.
Hasbro really needs to slow down with G1 and start using designs from the Unicron Trilogy and the Beast Era! Imagine modernised figures of Beast Machines Vehicons or new versions of the Armada cast!
@@livium9149 fr. Hasbro needs to remember that the kids who grew up watching the Unicron Trilogy are adults now too, and reminisce just as much as the people who were kids during G1.
I hope that the Optimus Prime figure from last year(?), The one that combined the IDW Reboot look with a Power Suit that looked like TF Cybertron OP lets Hasbro know we want more.
Armada is great, but energon and cybertron suck ass
Good news.
We’re getting Magmatron.
I still wait and hope, for beast wars 2 and neo come to DVD. like the Japanese G1 cartoons
There are free subs on RUclips, if doesn't bother you
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Just watch them in RUclips
My 📺 has been programmed for english subtitles so I'm gonna buy it.
@@ExiaBlade saw both.👍
If you think about it, Car Robots is like Beast Wars II but reversed and set in different time period.
But yeah, Lio Convoy aka Leo Prime is right after Optimus Primal; most famous Maximal commander while Big Convoy has been almost obscure Maximal commander.
This was good 101 basics for Japanese Beast Era.
The fact that this man sits through every show that a character appears in to make a basics episode just goes to show how much effore he puts into these amazing videos.
That Unicron toy looks amazing. I wish they’d release it today.
There is a Unicron toy, look it up. It's huge.
@Insecticon Bob More like $1000, if you're lucky.
@@XxAzraelGTxX The OP was talking specifically about the Neo Unicron prototype, shown in this episode...
I wish they would release the Neo and G1 prototypes. They would sell, without question. The G1 iteration in particular.
@@XxAzraelGTxX There have been several Unicron toys, but that specific one never got released. We want THAT toy.
I just love how beast wars II still tried to make sence with their beast forms for the most part choosing strong savanna animals(and a frog) but neo just trew that out of the window and had a team consisting of Penguin, bunny, tanuki, giraffe, cobra, horse with their leader being a mammoth. And It's not like the Opposite team made much sence with dorks including witch doctor stegosaurus and the ultimate shell former nautilus
Fun fact: Optimus Primal, in the Japanese dub, is voiced by Takehito Koyasu.
Takehito Koyasu also voiced Dio in Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure, Zeke in Attack On Titan and Roswaal in Re:zero.
Well, that's just prime
ZA
WARDO
Koyasu just can't escape being a munky no matter which series he's in.
You we're Expecting Optimus Primal *BUT IT WAS I DIO*
I'm just amazed it was apparently quicker to create two entirely new hand-drawn animated cartoons, and associated original merchandise, than just waiting for Season 2 of Beast Wars, and how much of a knock-on effect that's had down the years.
7:40 gave me flashbacks to seeing Mach Kick's transformation for the first time. God, that thing was designed to destroy the concept of fun.
Voiced by ninja red
He got a cameo with Battle Unicorn in My Little pony X Transformers as Autobots competing in a equestrian race with Rainbow dash. They didn't help with the decepticon attack windblade helped.
The same comic showed that Rarity could end Starscream while making friends with Arcee
Mach Kick, the one figure I transformed back and forth once and NEVER AGAIN. The design is impressive engineering wise, but is so fiddly and precise to get all together properly in horse mode it's a big NO FUN.
I gotta say, Japan putting a comedic twist on Beast sounds pretty hilarious. I wouldn't mind seeing more figures from BW II and Neo pop up in Transformers Earth Wars
Still, it leaves one to wonder how popular the franchise would be if they dubbed it accurately. Would it be even more popular because it could garner a more serious fan base, instead of the more casual one it gets in Japan for being known as a comedy show?
I'm sure there's an abridged version fans have done somewhere of Beast Wars.
I will put it this way - the fan subs of Beast Wars are more popular in Japan than the gag dub they got officially, and there is at least one petition going around asking for a proper localization.
@@ndt7379 We may Never know
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Yeah, that sounds understandable. People don't like it when anime from Japan is mistranslated during official dubs here or turned into gag dubs like some older releases. It was one thing to take a serious franchise like Transformers and ruin it with a lazy gag dub, but hearing that they continued giving the guy in charge of this decision to ability to continue doing this with other future transformers series dubs is just sad and mind boggling. Transformers may have been a huge hit in Japan or just bigger than it is right now had things been taken more seriously there. It would be like if the American dubs for something like Dragon Ball Z turned the entire series into a romcom on our end. There's no way DBZ would have been as big as it was in the states had that happened.
As neat as the Japanese Beast Wars stuff is and Lio Convoy is my favorite Maximal, I do gotta wonder what the hell was Takara thinking when it came to their handling of the brand starting with Beast Wars.
It’s starting with the Japanese dub of BW that Transformers in Japan really began to be catered to a younger, younger audience, between the oddball jokes and alteration of the original scripts. That seemed to have carried over to BWII, Neo & Car Robots, and from then on the rest of the Japanese TFs alongside the Japanese dubs of Animated and Prime.
There just seems to be this weird perception of robots with sentience & personality being treated as children’s fare in Japan, VS properties like Gundam, Evangelion & Macross where the piloted robots are treated with far more gravitas. Why is that, when Western media generally treats both types of Robot stories equally?
Don't know dude i really don't know
But transformers being turned in to a full on comedy franchise does kinda piss me off (don't get the wrong idea comedy has always been a part of the franchise but having it as the main focus just seems wrong to me)
It's payback for Godzilla and other Kaiju movie redubs in English.
I agree with Media.
My answer. Japan is filled with some bazaar stuff
Japanese G1 was already plenty dumbed down. Just look at Cyclonus in Headmasters. In addition, some lines are dubbed so strangely than they've become memes. For example, when Cliffjumper says "I want to boot some Decepticon in his turbo charger", it's dubbed as "I want to turn the Decepticons into a bloodbath." Optimus' "I have an idea" was apparently rendered so melodramatically that it's become a huge meme, and every rendition of Optimus or Optimus-esque character will say it at least once. Megatron too had a memetic phrase: like the original, he often called Starscream "You damn fool" (kono orokamono me ga), and because he was Megatron saying "orokamono me-ga", the Japanese fandom found it hilarious. Japanese Beast Wars just took the existing trend in Japanese TF toward whacky and childish and dialed it up to the extreme, which was especially unfortunate because the original was one of the most mature and well written TF shows, as well as the first TF show to skew rather dark.
I’m still kicking myself because when I was last in Japan I had the opportunity to get an original Lio Convoy figure in Akihabara… and I forgot to buy it! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
I remember going to Comic-con back in 2000 and seeing all the japanese Beast Wars II and Neo Toys wondering who they were and even thought Lio Convoy was Optimus Primal's Brother since they all looked like Optimus Prime.
I also remember someone having a TV set up and playing the fansubbed Beast Wars II anime on VHS.
it wouldn't be years later until I spotted Lio Convoy's toy at a local comic shop that I begged my dad if he could get it for me because I liked it so much.
Yeah, honestly, something about Lio's design I like way more than Primal's.
i got A mini lio convoy toy
I only got into Beast Wars this year and it's always great to learn about the impact it's had, and the Japanese side is something I've been really keen on learning about, so this is really well timed :)
Beast Wars Neo has some of my favorite BW toys, so cool.
Definitely pick up the Beast Wars graphic novels, you'll be very happy.
Man, Beast Wars Neo had the coolest toyline. I remember getting a bunch of them like a decade ago. Big Convoy and Magmatron are so cool.
True that they were! But do you still have them? (Some of mine got lost/ stolen or sold when I needed money.) BC vs Mags is an awesome box set!
@@andrewgrant2990 every last one of em including all my original Beast Wars stuff too. All in storage though otherwise there'd be nowhere for me to live 😔 if I ever get the space I want to get them shelves.
@@Gaia_Gaistar That is so awesome! Thanks for the reply. A huge chunk of my BW stuff is missing, but I'm hoping to find a box. Also love the Tako tank & Heinrad. Some of the toys are kind of goofy awesome! Hopefully one day you can get the space you need.
@@andrewgrant2990 The fact we got stuff like horses, giraffes and a time traveling tanuki is what made the line so cool. I never got the giraffe or horse unfortunately, or Lio Convoy but I did get Big Convoy and Heinrad among a few others. Heinrad has a working clock built into him, it's neat. If you ever get the chance I recommend him just because of how weird he is.
I've got Big Convoy and he's awesome. So many hidden weapons.
I hope Hasbro and Takara can give us a bunch of modern updates of these characters, Japan has always had such a great imagination.
Read Beast Wars the Gathering/The Ascending by Simon Furman. They star the non-show toy characters and include the Japanese Beast Wars characters. There's also the Transformers Universe material, that gives a starring role to Optimus Primal. Rather recently there's Beast Wars the Uprising, a super dark Beast Wars series starring Lio Convoy and reimagining plenty of classic Maximals and Predacons from both sides of the pond.
@@jeanettewu2537 I own it , it’s great!
The legacy line will have lio convoy this year
As a matter of fact…
The cel-animated alt-mode of Lio Convoy gave me flashbacks to the father of Kimba The White Lion.
That moment when you realise you've been mispronouncing Lio Convoy as Leo Convoy for twenty years
It's a common enough thing that I'd certainly point it out when he gets his own episode! You watch this comments section, I bet I get one or two saying I'm pronouncing it wrong! 😉
Well, it's pronounced either way. It's like how most people pronounces a dinosaur's name sometimes, there is no true proper way to say it.
Well, I personally prefer pronouncing it as Lio Convoy myself anyway. ^.^
So you combined Lio Convoy and Leo Prime.
I never understood that, really. It's spelled like lion, not leon, so shouldn't it be pronounced the same way?
Awesome overview as always Chris, and thank you for the link in the description to our channel!
Thanks for highlighting these little known classics!
I came back to say Legacy United Magmatron and Big Convoy are coming!!!!
What I love most is the fact that Tokehito Koyasu who voices Dio from Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure, Paradox from Yu-Gi-Oh and Sartorius in Gx and Ozymandias, Hans Andersen and Mephistopheles from Fate/ Grand Order voices Optimus Primal in the japanese
I remember owning the combiner team that Lio Junior belonged to (don’t remember the other members’ names) as a kid. Didn’t know until many years later that they came from these shows.
The combiner team you're thinking of is Magnaboss (ironically, they didn't change the name of the team, even though they changed the individual character's names). And it was actually released in Hasbro markets first, THEN it went to Japan, where they repurposed it for the show.
These videos have quickly become part of my Saturday morning ritual.
DUDE! i cant tell how happy it made me seeing this thumbnail on my feed,
I just finished Beast wars 2 Neo and...GOSH it's such a good series, i love it very much and i kinda wish it was aired in more places. i think the comedy&action ratio are just perfect to catch kids and adults alike
I have seen all of this shows, they are not for everyone, they have tone which is aimed for kids, but I liked them Specially Lio Convoy, Big Convoy, Heinard, Starscream (Who should´ve been called Skywarp) and Gigastorm. I liked Lio Convoy the most, but I must say I liked Beast Wars Neo much more than Beastwars II.
Get My Future (BWII) is literally one of the hypest TF OPs, next to Transformers Evo and the Victory Theme
Dude, I love your pfp
I'm not very well versed with the beast era so I really learnt a lot from this video. Excellent as always!
Man, Long Rack is still just such a wild trip to see treated as a like, toy that exists
Very informative! I really like Lio Convoy's design, and I appreciate the fact that even though the continuity of these shows is kinda "meh", they took the time to try and tie it in with other Transformers media. Apparently, in the Japanese dub, Tigatron and Airazor had a sort of "Samurai and Ward" relationship, but when their romance REALLY began to show, the producers actually explained to the fans that they were in love. It's kind of cool and funny seeing as how many Transformers romances today (particularly in the comics) are often gay or asexual. The best part about it is that its treated as something completely normal among Transformers, and everyone is just ok with it (at least, that's how I saw it).
Wow 😯. There are so many aspects to this subject that can have there own “the basics”. I am glad to finally have some questions answered on this eclectic part of transformer history.
I like how Big Convoy has his own Nemesis Counterpart in one of the comics, and that they resembled the Alters from Fate/ Grand Order
25 years the Beast Era is the same age as me.
I feel so old now.😭
Imagine how old it feels to be told Beast Era is 25 and to still think of it as 'that new stuff'. ;)
@@originaluddite shut up. I first watched the Beast Wars when I was elementary school so it’s old to me.
All my education was behind me when it started.
Oh I read the 'shut up' as playful like saying 'get out of town' or something.
I will say this - the older you are the more relaxed you get about it. It's much harder to cope with while you're still relatively young. Like, when you realize you're older than the average check-out operator, that comes as a shock, even if you really ain't that old just then.
@@originaluddite yep I felt old while in high school when I heard elementary school students full on swear
I never watched the japanese beast wars, but I love their unique designs! Really hope they appear in western media of a significant kind!
Our channel hosts both series that we fansubbed. ruclips.net/p/PL3lb98kB-PsHqreVIGQ6xZRwa2T0UzPT4 There's also torrents available of these and other Transformers media that we've subtitled over the years via nyaa.si/?f=0&c=0_0&q=karyuudo
Beasts Wars Neo was an amazing show that encourages the values of faith, friendship and family, a cartoon that showed how the greatest heroe can come from the must humblest place, and how the strenght of a family can stand anything
And an episode even gave the audience a warning about stranger danger
@@恩陶梁Exactly, a great show
11:29 HE MENTIONED KISS PLAYERS! We're one step closer to a full episode on it. It is inevitable.
He hesitated giving it a honorable mention.
WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT KISS PLAYERS IN THIS HOUSE OF PRIMUS!!
Well, that's just prime.
Eh, we're all gonna die.
@@DevinGates yesssssssssssss
Beast Wars II has always been my jam. Beast Wars Neo as well, but I still have a LOT to catch up with there. Good thing we've got The Basics to help us out on that. :)
I hope these shows get a remaster. I would love to see the 2D animation in awesome quality.
Especially the 90s beast wars show
I remember loving the intros and outros to the Japanese Beast Wars, and Beast Wars Metals when I was a kid, and I still do! And it's through the Japanese Beast Wars I found two of my favorite Transformers robots. Beast Wars 2 Dirge and Powerpinch!
Both Beast Wars, Beast Wars Second and Neo aired in South Korea when I was like 5. So like how 70s or 80s grew up with G1, these were MY Transformers. Along with RID(2001) which also aired in South Korea.
Well that's cool
i wanna see a basics on "best machines" or one on "transformers VS Marvel's Avengers" one day!
One of my favourite days was when I realized the Beast Machines theme song was a real full-length song, Phat Planet.
I have such ridiculously fond memories of going to the sunday markets when I was a kid with my family. There was this one stall that imported all the Japanese beast era transformers, and as this was mid/late 90s they cost absolutely fuck all, so my folks always bought me one every weekend (as long as I behaved of course. . . ). Was so awesome having these way different and awesomely complicated transformers none of my mates had. Plus I don't really care for vehicular transformers, so all of a sudden having access to like 4× as many as toys r us had was damn nigh orgasmic. . .
WAR WAR STOP IT
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GET MY FUTURE
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Love For Ever
That's what this episode is about.
I can’t explain why but Neo is one of my favourite TF toylines.
I'm still sad & disappointed we never got these series to the states ( especially since the animators were behind Gundams/ Gow Gaigar at the time) but maybe in time, that'll change! ❤
One other Japanese Beast Wars character did get a homage in the American toys. There is a version of the Armada steam shovel retooled and repainted for Cybertron in homage to Longrack (the giraffe in Neo) including a new headsculpt resembling his. It actually works pretty well, since the extendable shovel-arm punch in robot mode is similar to the extending claw arm the original Longrack had as a gimmick.
I really enjoyed this video as I actually have two figures from the Japanese Beast Wars line (Stampy from BWN and Apache from BW2) so it was cool to see it explained more on where they actually came from.
Don’t forget that Longrack actually has gotten a “new” figure since BWII - specifically as a repaint of Armada Hoist in Transformers Cybertron. He even had an appearance in the anime.
2nd and Neo were great, we need more figs of characters from it.
I'm making my way through the Japanese G1 timeline now. Still on Masterforce.
Kinda crazy to think that a decade after g1 we got the beasts
I really enjoyed these shows. Saw the first 4 episodes of BWII at Botcon 98, and had bootleg VHS for years until the fansubs came out. But I'd definitely support any physical media release of II and Neo in North America. The movie in particular is pretty awesome
I've always been fascinated by the Japanese beast series but I still don't understand why the 'bots needed beast modes but the 'cons didn't.
Femboy Air razor is something I didn’t know I needed until now
Beast Wars Second is now available on DVD.
So that's where Lio Prime came from, I came across a pre order for a model and was curious. Really like his design.
A topic I know little about! Thank you!
They HAVE to release these in an updated japanese collection
Honestly there's something hilarious about the thought that every Transformers series since has basically had nothing but gag dubs for the last 20 years. It would be an interesting look at the shows though, especially something as grim as Beast Machines
Um, longrack got a cybertron figure, can’t remember if he was a Japanese exclusive or if he was ever released in America though
I don’t know if you forgot him or just chose not to mention him, but longrack got a new figure or at least an homage in tf cybertron.
Yeah, I have that version. Never got the original giraffe. I should have grabbed him when he was more available back in the day and I was collecting the other BWN figures.
I have the Cybertron figure because I thought it looked cool. Finding out it was an homage to a BWII character surprised me. Finding out he had a similar personality as General Armstrong surprised me even more.
"This technique has been passed down the Lockrack line for GENERATIONS!"
I have the OG Longrack, and it's definitely a bizarre piece. Pushing on the giraffe's tongue makes the eyes roll back, for some reason I still can't quite discern. I'd love to get Stampy or Break for the dumb weapon mode hookups.
I like the idea that the unused characters from the toyline were adopted by the Japanese series, and that it was supposed to be in the same continuity but at a different period in time. Suppose it was kind of like a shared universe a bit like the mcu or arrowverse
love the JPN exclusive series that tie into the g1 cartoon. Good memories of when I was a kid and when I got to share the toys and the cartoon with my kids .
Love Beast Wars. And this is an amazing video for my Monday. Thank you 😁👍
This is the best basics video you have ever done.
Anybody still remember how good the openings of beast wars II and neo sounded like?
can you translate them into English
I owe my mist viewed video to this video. Thanks for letting me use the clips Chris!!
3:05 and that's were the Blue big Convoy comic fix the Continuity error.
I love the Japanese Beast Wars series, I especially love that the same characters appeared in the IDW BW comic. It's hard to believe that the Cybertron they rebuilt got trashed by Megs when he fell off the Ark shuttle though ;(
I wished both of Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo episodes are all in english dubbed on RUclips or released onto Complete DVD collection just like the CGI original Beast Wars Series 1996.
I’ve only just realised this but the Shigeru chiba (the guy who voices Megatron in the Japanese beast wars dub) is also Kyoryu Violet from Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger which is my favourite super Sentai series!!!!!!!
I'm a g1 guy but I'm watching this since I can learn something and wanna support you chris. Gave it a like too
I remember most of the Transmetels toys breaking really easy.
R.I.P Transmetel Megatrons upper Torso.
Beast Wars 2 and Neo are great additions to the Beast era of Transformers.
7:36 I’m not the only one who finds it funny that Dinobot is using a gun, let alone one that looks like a sniper rifle shotgun.
I love Beast wars 2, it’s my favorite series and besides I love every anime of transformers that you mentioned including the beast wars neo 🦭🧡💙❤️💚💞💕💜💝🤎🥰💖💖💜💜💜🥰
What remarkable timing. I was just conversing with an artist on Twitter, telling her about the connections between The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, the original dub of Dragon Ball Z, and Beast Wars/Machines via the voice casts. I had just started explaining how Beast Wars was handled in Japan, I can share this with her. More information in less time.
Thank you for this! I was always confused by the Japanese beast era storylines/ continuity.
Well thank primus for kyuudo fansubs for making beast wars 2 and neo and some of the other Japanese transformers material possible to view
Those are some wild plotlines
Hi Chris McFeely, What is your favourite Transformers Series in the Franchise?
I think these cartoons and stories are wonderful all on their own, and I'm planning on featuring some of the characters from here along with American Beast Wars characters in my fanfiction as Cybertronian colonists of Ukaris.
The Beast Wars/Machines is my favorite line of the Transformers for using animals and other creatures as alternate forms, now I need to find the japanese episodes which I have never watched
I loved Beast Wars: the Gathering's take on this part of the franchise. Still looking to get them on my shelf :)
very late on this, really appreciate this history!! Thanks for creating this
even tho i never was born in japan nor did i ever go there but i did grow up with the japanese transformers including beast wars
the reason how is me finding out what beast wars ii was when i was 10 years old and i was a huge transformers fan tbh and
i watched it for the first time and i loved the show and i liked lio convoy so much
I recently binged neo all the way through and loved it, have encore big convoy and trying to collect the main predacon crew.
It is a shame so many tf series are turned into jokes overseas, I wonder what Japanese fans think of our more serious versions?
Who would've thought we would be getting a brand new Lio Convoy, Tasmanian Kid and Magmatron in Hasbro mainline.
I've been waiting for a proper dub for so long. It's almost criminal they haven't done anything with it.
I've got much of those series on fan-subbed vhs tapes, including car robo, which I haven't seen in decades. I enjoyed the characters from BWII and remember bits about Primal's appearance to help Lio out. I even have a Lio Convoy figure MIB.
Thanks man hoping this will come out after that Copy Convoy video
I recently download and watch the first episode of BW the second and now I'm more excited to watch the show and neo if I can find neo
Our channel hosts both series that we fansubbed. ruclips.net/p/PL3lb98kB-PsHqreVIGQ6xZRwa2T0UzPT4 There's also torrents available of these and other Transformers media that we've subtitled over the years via nyaa.si/?f=0&c=0_0&q=karyuudo
They got all the BW Neo episodes here on RUclips for free lol