Rakum, I gotta tell you that I love your content, man. You’ve inspired me to jump over the edge and do conservation work of my own. Thank you for what you do. I’ll always stay tuned.
This is the video that convinced me to get a reloading press, I was always told how you overly complicated it is but watching you do it it’s absolutely doable, so I thank you for that
It seems intimidating at first but once you get the hang of it, it's really easy. That doesn't mean you can be complacent though, I double and triple check the powder level within every case before adding the bullet.
Your correct from my point of view about the ammo, but it goes a bit deeper the entire process you so wonderfully showed is another reason there are many that just don't wanna deal with the process, years ago I could have had a m95 Hungarian in 8x56 r and I didn't wanna deal with resizing 338 cal bullets and the ammo shortage for both plays a large role in ownership of such rifles
I restored a M LE 1916 Berthier last summer. Was my 1st ever restoration. It's an awesome rifle but I would hate to have to lug it around in the trenches. I can't seem find the mag clip, so I single feed 8mm Lebel. It's very accurate even after 100+ years. Love your videos
I had a nice Gew 88. It had a .321 bore, since they dont make .321 bullets in the US only .323 I sold it off to a collector. It was a nice functional rifle but a gunsmith told me not to fire 323 bullets in it .That was 25 years ago.
You have to be very careful with the german 8mm ammo. There are two different diameters. 8x57i and also 8x57is The latter is used in the Reichswehr and the Wehrmacht. The Gewehr 88 used the 8x57i which is 1/10 of an mm smaller in diameter and has a lower pressure. The rule is you can shot a 8mm i from an s barrel whit the larger bore diameter but not the 8mm s from an i barrel. This was a question which i had to answer during my theoretical hunters Exam. Hope this was a little helpful.
Speer also makes 0.321 bullets. I think ppu does too, but not 100% sure. Of course, there's always the cast bullets option too. If you're messing with a gew 88, hand loading is a must.
@@wilderer-rb3rzyeah, you can't trust the markings on the gun though. Some were sent to have the grooves deepened to 0.323" from the original 0.318", and the contractor screwed the Germans. Some were recut, some weren't but the contractor said they were, some were technically recut but the contractor could care less about specs or tool wear. Stack on a century of barrel wear, and the bore diameters are on a continuum from 0.318 to 0.323. So slugging is a 100% requirement, and at this point for the 88, so is hand loading
@@joearledge1 At 1:52 in the video he mentions the original bore diameter. It's .321", not .318". The .318" barrels were Czech replacement barrels that were put on rifles that the Czechs received from Austria-Hungary as war reparations. They were then sold off to Ecuador. They were never intended for use with regular 8x57, not even Patrone 88, which were .318" long nosed bullets. They fired a .315/.316" sporting round that was popular in Germany and other parts of central Europe in the early 1900s through the early 1930s. This is actual "J" bore, and it was never used by the German military, not even in Gewehr 88s.
Excellent video! I don’t know if you’re a fan of Babylon Berlin, but these rifles feature a lot in the WW1 scenes where Gereon Rath has his flashback to the trenches. It is also the beloved rifle of Bruno Wolter, the veteran Berlin policeman - he has one on the wall in his home. They got this stuff right as these Gew 88 Commission rifle was still in limited use during the war to end all wars. It must have provided a bit of a logistical dilemma with the use of both the 8x57J and the later 8x57 JS. By some accounts, many 1988 rifles had the neck clearance altered and could fire the .323 ammunition safely due to relatively low pressures and bolt thrust. But I’m not sure I’d want to put that to the test and you’ve done the right thing. Really enjoyed your methodical approach to sorting the ammunition out. 👍🏻
Excellent video, thank you very much! I'll be duplicating your results. Greetings from Czechia; Gew. 1888/05 (stripper clip mod.) is very popular here as firearms manufactured until the end of 1890 are classified as historical and don't require license. That makes Gewehr 88 pretty much the only rifle made for smokeless powder you can get unlicensed. I am a licensee myself, but I like classical firearms and love to renovate them; my Danzig 1890 Gew. 88/05 is my next project. It's been in Turkey, numbers don't match, but I like it nevertheless.
The rifles that people need to be aware of are the 1888's that came in from Ecuador some years ago. They appear well used but were rebarreled by the Czechs. The barrels are true .318 barrels. The Czechs supplied the ammo for them as well...These are packet clip rifles and the bores usually appear as new....Many of these rifles are also S marked, but that was for the original barrel. Shooting .323 bullets in these would likely be very dangerous and even 321 bullets would also be dangerous...I have squeezed .321 bullets to ..318, but mostly I shoot cast in these...
Greetings Rakim. This was a very informative video, thank you. I've never seen this slugging method before. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask your advice about an 88 that I was gifted. Mine is dated 1891, and is "S" marked. It appears to have been exported to Turkey at some point, judging from the rear sight and additional proof marks. The specimen I have is in excellent shape. The headspace is perfect. I slugged the barrel (the typical method), and it comes in at .324 on one pair of grooves, and .3245 on the other pair. I imagine the barrel, which is otherwise very bright, may be somewhat worn. My question is: Is it safe to fire .323 FMJ ammunition in this rifle? I'm not sure if I will get gas passing the bullet, or if the extra .001 or .0015 diameter of the bore over the bullet diameter will be closed as the bullet is obviously somewhat deformed, as the cartridge is fired, and takes the rifling, perhaps (?) creating a good gas seal. I was planning on firing the Greek 8mm x 57mm, 200 gr. ammunition that is now available on the market, as the pressures from this production ammunition seem to be somewhat lower than, say, Turkish ammunition. On the other hand, as you are apparently in the habit of doing, I was also considering handloading low pressure rounds, i.e. a 150 gr. .323 Sierra bullet, and 28 gr. of Hodgdon 4895. I thank you beforehand for your insights! -Paul Dieterich
Nice gun. Got one at an auction a few years ago. 35 dollars. It was an 88 that was gifted to the Ottoman Empire during WWI and then redone by Turkish state in 1938. I shoot powder coated lead, at 80% starting powder charge. Not a speed demon but the groups are good at 100 yards.
At 0:50 you mentioned the bore diameter myth, and I think to myself, "hmm, is this guy one of the very few who knows about that?"... Then at 1:52 you mentioned the actual original bore diameter of .321" and I immediately gave the video a thumbs up, lol.
7:40 or maybe mount mandrel in a [tailstock mounted] drill chuck. You could also use one of those segmented/flexible/adaptable reamer holders that allow reamer (mandrel) to follow bore axis if any misalignment present instead of chuck axis.
I've since discovered expanding laps, which might be a better alternative to sandpaper on a mandrel. They could be used in a more rigid setup like you suggest.
I own one of these rifles too, and would love to shoot it one day. Where did you get your stripper clips? Also, I've heard that store-bought 8mm will work with these rifles, so why would I need to make my own ammunition?
Wow, I’ve never used Cerrosafe. Always just slugged a bore with lead. This is all good helpful info. I do want to shoot my Gewehr 88s and my Turkish Mauser. 👍
Im having an issue with one of my gewehr 88s. It's in good condition but the lever that raises the rounds is too long and ejects rounds when chambered or when pulling the bolt back. I have another rifle with no issues but is non matching and cant find any information on taking apart the magazine trigger assembly to replace the magazine lever. I've removed the screws but am not sure how to proceed and would appreciate help.
That doesn't sound like an issue with the magazine follower, instead it sounds like it has to do with the cartridge retainer on the left side of the receiver. I'd check to see if that has enough spring tension to keep the rounds in the magazine.
I hunt with a turkish gew 88, thing is unreal accurate, people say to use lower pressure loads for it but i use the fmj surplus for practice and handlpads for hunting, they have a stronger action then people think, about like a mosin,
This rifle was a great success in China, where it saw use all the way into the 70's! Ironically, the Chinese were duped into thinking it was designed by Mauser. it was actually called the 88 commission rifle, because it was designed by a special commission, and not by Mauser. Nevertheless, the Chinese began manufacturing it themselves. it is worth mentioning that they quickly simplified the construction by removing the iconic barrel shroud.
Spend the money and get the custom dies. Well worth the money. You will need a .320 sizing die for jacketed bullets. They will spring back .001 after sizing
It looks like you have the original style of cocking piece nut without the tab on it. Also some early production 88s are Stamped G.Mod 88 on the side of the receiver but I've noticed this changed around mid 1890 production as well as the number of proof marks as my 89 built only has 2 proofs on the receiver
Hey. I have an idea. Just a thought. Why don’t you just work up your loads with a .323 bullet. lol. The Germans modified the old .315 bores by just cutting the lands deeper. His rifle was marked as a gun that had been done. His bore is really closer to 322 because the sarasafe did shrink some. A .323 bullet would be fine in that rifle You don’t want to load super hot loads in Thea’s old guns any ways.
Idiotic question, but what if you shoot modern diameter 8mm Mauser through an old, slightly undersized bore? 0.002 inches difference won't exactly blackout kaboom a rifle. What's the consequences we could expect? Increased barrel wear? Increased chamber pressure leading to potential damage to the locking system?
The Germans did it. Some of these rifles were altered - the chamber necks were reamed to allow for sufficient expansion so as not to pinch the bullet. But you wouldn’t do this to a collectable rifle unless you could determine if it had already been done by a chamber cast. You’d want a couple of thou neck clearance.
The .323 154gr military Spitzer bullet has a very small bearing surface and sqeezes down fine but.....the twist rate is wrong and they don't shoot well accuracy wise.
I would not shoot any surplus in a GEW88 especially the 176 smk and 198gr . I have shot Turk pulled .323 152gr reduced load but they don't shoot as good as the long bearing surface 200gr Norma or Woodleigh .318. With 318 bullets just resize without expander.
Why not have a gunsmith machine you a barrel. Seems like an easy enough job. Then you can tighten your groups and have many different bullet options. You can keep the original barrel for when you decide to sell it or store the rifle away for good.
That's an option however I prefer to keep the rifle original and make ammunition to suit it. I'm not expecting much accuracy, if I'm hitting paper at 100yd I'm happy.
Well with a .321 bore that would be forcing a .323 bullet down by about what 3-4 thousandths either the grooves being .319-.318, wouldn’t that be fine because 30-06/308 uses a .308 bullet but the lands come up to about .300 do that about 8 thousandths getting swaged down,
I could have done a better job explaining groove diameter vs bore diameter. The slug measured at .321" groove diameter and a .313" bore diameter. Yes the bullet is being swaged down to fit the rifling regardless, but since it's a smaller area than the whole diameter there's less pressure generated.
@@rakumprojects so then would the 88 be able to handle a normal 8mm mauser then? ive heard that if you have a turkish one your pretty much good to send it with them as they had been fed turkish 8mm their entire service life
@@joeydussell9407 I don't think that's a safe assumption to make. It's possible Turkish marked Gew 88's weren't fired all that much. Post WWI they had an abundance of more modern Gewehr 98 rifles.
@@rakumprojects I should mine it was a turned one, a quick caliper measurement measured the lands at .319 I think, so it probably would have shot normal 8mm no problem, it’s strange Germany started with the smaller bullet then increased the size, another thing you didint mention in the video is the Czech barrels, after ww1 Czechoslovakia rebarreled many of them to a .318 barrel and sold them to country’s in South America, I’ve heard they did this as a way to secure ammo contracts from these country’s but I’ve yet to see a gew 88 with a Czech barrel so they can’t be all too common, another gew 88 worth mentioning is the hanyang 88s, which used an 8mm cartridge that was essentially 8mm mauser but had a bore diameter more inline with the original 8mm Mauser diameter
I follow your channel because i like watching shooting videos. I dont agree with allot of your opinions, or advice including the exaggerated recoil from a 3006!! But dang thats funny!! Lol 😂
Incorrect information on the original groove diameter. It was .318. Mine is S stamped Styer made 88/05. And it is still. .318 groove diameter. ruclips.net/video/QzoXST7_iFk/видео.htmlsi=k7lX3LPcfIAJ-ndb en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrone_88
There's a lot of discussion threads online regarding the actual original bore diameter, so much so that it's hard to tell what is correct. I'm not sure if wikipedia is an accurate source or if my sources which say .321" bore and .318" projectile are correct. But that's not the point of the video, the point is that you should slug your bore before shooting these rifles. Sounds like you did so.
3900 joules into a paper target. 🤦♂️No It's more boring than shooting at a paper target or an iron gong. An old washing machine or water jug. Those are targets. And you can draw a small dot on them.
dislike just cuz you dont know how to shoot...why do ya need that thung below the rifle, just use hands, and the bolt manipulating is horrible. use your hand not fingers
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So dry, to the point, and accurate information. Perfect.
You mean you wouldn’t want an opening with 5-minute-long compilation of Instagram operator drills set to copyright-free guitar riffs???
@@hobofactory for being a person talking sounds more like a monotone robot voice of a robot i kind of had to smirk but everything is on point
Rakum, I gotta tell you that I love your content, man. You’ve inspired me to jump over the edge and do conservation work of my own. Thank you for what you do. I’ll always stay tuned.
That's great to hear! Thank you!
This is the video that convinced me to get a reloading press, I was always told how you overly complicated it is but watching you do it it’s absolutely doable, so I thank you for that
It seems intimidating at first but once you get the hang of it, it's really easy. That doesn't mean you can be complacent though, I double and triple check the powder level within every case before adding the bullet.
@@rakumprojects definitely a good practice
Your correct from my point of view about the ammo, but it goes a bit deeper the entire process you so wonderfully showed is another reason there are many that just don't wanna deal with the process, years ago I could have had a m95 Hungarian in 8x56 r and I didn't wanna deal with resizing 338 cal bullets and the ammo shortage for both plays a large role in ownership of such rifles
I like that reloading sometimes forces you to be creative, alot to learn aswell.
I restored a M LE 1916 Berthier last summer. Was my 1st ever restoration. It's an awesome rifle but I would hate to have to lug it around in the trenches. I can't seem find the mag clip, so I single feed 8mm Lebel. It's very accurate even after 100+ years. Love your videos
I have one of those as well. I don't have a clip either but haven't shot it yet.
@@rakumprojects They're sweet but at 50 to 100yds aim about 6" low of the target. The arc of the bullet is high.
I had a nice Gew 88. It had a .321 bore, since they dont make .321 bullets in the US only .323 I sold it off to a collector. It was a nice functional rifle but a gunsmith told me not to fire 323 bullets in it .That was 25 years ago.
You have to be very careful with the german 8mm ammo. There are two different diameters. 8x57i and also 8x57is The latter is used in the Reichswehr and the Wehrmacht. The Gewehr 88 used the 8x57i which is 1/10 of an mm smaller in diameter and has a lower pressure. The rule is you can shot a 8mm i from an s barrel whit the larger bore diameter but not the 8mm s from an i barrel. This was a question which i had to answer during my theoretical hunters Exam. Hope this was a little helpful.
Hornady makes .321 bullets 170 grain. I have them.
Speer also makes 0.321 bullets. I think ppu does too, but not 100% sure. Of course, there's always the cast bullets option too. If you're messing with a gew 88, hand loading is a must.
@@wilderer-rb3rzyeah, you can't trust the markings on the gun though. Some were sent to have the grooves deepened to 0.323" from the original 0.318", and the contractor screwed the Germans. Some were recut, some weren't but the contractor said they were, some were technically recut but the contractor could care less about specs or tool wear. Stack on a century of barrel wear, and the bore diameters are on a continuum from 0.318 to 0.323. So slugging is a 100% requirement, and at this point for the 88, so is hand loading
@@joearledge1 At 1:52 in the video he mentions the original bore diameter. It's .321", not .318". The .318" barrels were Czech replacement barrels that were put on rifles that the Czechs received from Austria-Hungary as war reparations. They were then sold off to Ecuador. They were never intended for use with regular 8x57, not even Patrone 88, which were .318" long nosed bullets. They fired a .315/.316" sporting round that was popular in Germany and other parts of central Europe in the early 1900s through the early 1930s. This is actual "J" bore, and it was never used by the German military, not even in Gewehr 88s.
I'm having trouble with the comments on this video, first they kept turning off and now my replies aren't showing up. Hopefully this is fixed soon
RUclips has been turning off comments on gun videos. They hate us.
Excellent video! I don’t know if you’re a fan of Babylon Berlin, but these rifles feature a lot in the WW1 scenes where Gereon Rath has his flashback to the trenches. It is also the beloved rifle of Bruno Wolter, the veteran Berlin policeman - he has one on the wall in his home. They got this stuff right as these Gew 88 Commission rifle was still in limited use during the war to end all wars. It must have provided a bit of a logistical dilemma with the use of both the 8x57J and the later 8x57 JS. By some accounts, many 1988 rifles had the neck clearance altered and could fire the .323 ammunition safely due to relatively low pressures and bolt thrust. But I’m not sure I’d want to put that to the test and you’ve done the right thing.
Really enjoyed your methodical approach to sorting the ammunition out. 👍🏻
I've never heard of that show. I'll have to check it out
NOE bullet molds also sells bullet sizing dies and expanders that are great for this application.
Excellent video, thank you very much! I'll be duplicating your results. Greetings from Czechia; Gew. 1888/05 (stripper clip mod.) is very popular here as firearms manufactured until the end of 1890 are classified as historical and don't require license. That makes Gewehr 88 pretty much the only rifle made for smokeless powder you can get unlicensed. I am a licensee myself, but I like classical firearms and love to renovate them; my Danzig 1890 Gew. 88/05 is my next project. It's been in Turkey, numbers don't match, but I like it nevertheless.
The rifles that people need to be aware of are the 1888's that came in from Ecuador some years ago. They appear well used but were rebarreled by the Czechs. The barrels are true .318 barrels. The Czechs supplied the ammo for them as well...These are packet clip rifles and the bores usually appear as new....Many of these rifles are also S marked, but that was for the original barrel. Shooting .323 bullets in these would likely be very dangerous and even 321 bullets would also be dangerous...I have squeezed .321 bullets to ..318, but mostly I shoot cast in these...
Agreed, those are the most dangerous. I don't think there's anything externally that would indicate a tight Czech barrel.
Greetings Rakim. This was a very informative video, thank you. I've never seen this slugging method before. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask your advice about an 88 that I was gifted. Mine is dated 1891, and is "S" marked. It appears to have been exported to Turkey at some point, judging from the rear sight and additional proof marks. The specimen I have is in excellent shape. The headspace is perfect. I slugged the barrel (the typical method), and it comes in at .324 on one pair of grooves, and .3245 on the other pair. I imagine the barrel, which is otherwise very bright, may be somewhat worn. My question is: Is it safe to fire .323 FMJ ammunition in this rifle? I'm not sure if I will get gas passing the bullet, or if the extra .001 or .0015 diameter of the bore over the bullet diameter will be closed as the bullet is obviously somewhat deformed, as the cartridge is fired, and takes the rifling, perhaps (?) creating a good gas seal. I was planning on firing the Greek 8mm x 57mm, 200 gr. ammunition that is now available on the market, as the pressures from this production ammunition seem to be somewhat lower than, say, Turkish ammunition. On the other hand, as you are apparently in the habit of doing, I was also considering handloading low pressure rounds, i.e. a 150 gr. .323 Sierra bullet, and 28 gr. of Hodgdon 4895. I thank you beforehand for your insights! -Paul Dieterich
Good information, I learned a few things I wasn't aware was possible.
You're a straight G dude. Nice video.
I noticed the "hi-neighbor" Narragansett beer bumpah stickah in the background... You from New England?
Nice gun. Got one at an auction a few years ago. 35 dollars. It was an 88 that was gifted to the Ottoman Empire during WWI and then redone by Turkish state in 1938. I shoot powder coated lead, at 80% starting powder charge. Not a speed demon but the groups are good at 100 yards.
At 0:50 you mentioned the bore diameter myth, and I think to myself, "hmm, is this guy one of the very few who knows about that?"... Then at 1:52 you mentioned the actual original bore diameter of .321" and I immediately gave the video a thumbs up, lol.
I think I might've mixed up groove diameter and bore diameter but the point still stands.
7:40 or maybe mount mandrel in a [tailstock mounted] drill chuck. You could also use one of those segmented/flexible/adaptable reamer holders that allow reamer (mandrel) to follow bore axis if any misalignment present instead of chuck axis.
I've since discovered expanding laps, which might be a better alternative to sandpaper on a mandrel. They could be used in a more rigid setup like you suggest.
I own one of these rifles too, and would love to shoot it one day. Where did you get your stripper clips? Also, I've heard that store-bought 8mm will work with these rifles, so why would I need to make my own ammunition?
Very nice video other than confusing the bore diameter with bullet / groove diameter.
I admit I do mix up the terminology, but throughout the video I'm always referring to the larger of the two diameters.
Shoot Powder coat cast with a gas check, sized to .323. I do that with my three unaltered early build Gewehr 88's
Wow, I’ve never used Cerrosafe. Always just slugged a bore with lead. This is all good helpful info. I do want to shoot my Gewehr 88s and my Turkish Mauser. 👍
I made a longer punch because with soft point it was flattening them
Im having an issue with one of my gewehr 88s. It's in good condition but the lever that raises the rounds is too long and ejects rounds when chambered or when pulling the bolt back. I have another rifle with no issues but is non matching and cant find any information on taking apart the magazine trigger assembly to replace the magazine lever. I've removed the screws but am not sure how to proceed and would appreciate help.
That doesn't sound like an issue with the magazine follower, instead it sounds like it has to do with the cartridge retainer on the left side of the receiver. I'd check to see if that has enough spring tension to keep the rounds in the magazine.
I hunt with a turkish gew 88, thing is unreal accurate, people say to use lower pressure loads for it but i use the fmj surplus for practice and handlpads for hunting, they have a stronger action then people think, about like a mosin,
This rifle was a great success in China, where it saw use all the way into the 70's! Ironically, the Chinese were duped into thinking it was designed by Mauser. it was actually called the 88 commission rifle, because it was designed by a special commission, and not by Mauser. Nevertheless, the Chinese began manufacturing it themselves. it is worth mentioning that they quickly simplified the construction by removing the iconic barrel shroud.
Spend the money and get the custom dies. Well worth the money. You will need a .320 sizing die for jacketed bullets. They will spring back .001 after sizing
It looks like you have the original style of cocking piece nut without the tab on it. Also some early production 88s are Stamped G.Mod 88 on the side of the receiver but I've noticed this changed around mid 1890 production as well as the number of proof marks as my 89 built only has 2 proofs on the receiver
I haven't seen many 1889 dated rifles, seems like the vast majority were made 1890-92 or so.
There’s something odd about the way you melted that cerrosafe🤔🤔
Hey. I have an idea. Just a thought. Why don’t you just work up your loads with a .323 bullet. lol. The Germans modified the old .315 bores by just cutting the lands deeper. His rifle was marked as a gun that had been done. His bore is really closer to 322 because the sarasafe did shrink some. A .323 bullet would be fine in that rifle You don’t want to load super hot loads in Thea’s old guns any ways.
How light is that charge??? It sounds like it’s a .22?
Idiotic question, but what if you shoot modern diameter 8mm Mauser through an old, slightly undersized bore? 0.002 inches difference won't exactly blackout kaboom a rifle.
What's the consequences we could expect? Increased barrel wear? Increased chamber pressure leading to potential damage to the locking system?
The Germans did it. Some of these rifles were altered - the chamber necks were reamed to allow for sufficient expansion so as not to pinch the bullet. But you wouldn’t do this to a collectable rifle unless you could determine if it had already been done by a chamber cast. You’d want a couple of thou neck clearance.
The .323 154gr military Spitzer bullet has a very small bearing surface and sqeezes down fine but.....the twist rate is wrong and they don't shoot well accuracy wise.
again a great video
Excellent video! I have a Turked 88 with a new made .323 barrel sans the barrel jacket, and shoot mostly cast bullets. Really enjoy the content.
What about temp raise & bullet expand?
I would not shoot any surplus in a GEW88 especially the 176 smk and 198gr . I have shot Turk pulled .323 152gr reduced load but they don't shoot as good as the long bearing surface 200gr Norma or Woodleigh .318. With 318 bullets just resize without expander.
That was Awesome
My gewehr 88 has 8x57js stamped on its side, so I guess I don't need to worry about shooting anything through it.
Those were rebarreled later. There we're also lots of scandals about the Gewehr 88.
Great. Rifles
Why not have a gunsmith machine you a barrel. Seems like an easy enough job. Then you can tighten your groups and have many different bullet options. You can keep the original barrel for when you decide to sell it or store the rifle away for good.
That's an option however I prefer to keep the rifle original and make ammunition to suit it. I'm not expecting much accuracy, if I'm hitting paper at 100yd I'm happy.
Gew88/05?
Well with a .321 bore that would be forcing a .323 bullet down by about what 3-4 thousandths either the grooves being .319-.318, wouldn’t that be fine because 30-06/308 uses a .308 bullet but the lands come up to about .300 do that about 8 thousandths getting swaged down,
I could have done a better job explaining groove diameter vs bore diameter. The slug measured at .321" groove diameter and a .313" bore diameter. Yes the bullet is being swaged down to fit the rifling regardless, but since it's a smaller area than the whole diameter there's less pressure generated.
@@rakumprojects so then would the 88 be able to handle a normal 8mm mauser then? ive heard that if you have a turkish one your pretty much good to send it with them as they had been fed turkish 8mm their entire service life
@@joeydussell9407 I don't think that's a safe assumption to make. It's possible Turkish marked Gew 88's weren't fired all that much. Post WWI they had an abundance of more modern Gewehr 98 rifles.
@@rakumprojects I should mine it was a turned one, a quick caliper measurement measured the lands at .319 I think, so it probably would have shot normal 8mm no problem, it’s strange Germany started with the smaller bullet then increased the size, another thing you didint mention in the video is the Czech barrels, after ww1 Czechoslovakia rebarreled many of them to a .318 barrel and sold them to country’s in South America, I’ve heard they did this as a way to secure ammo contracts from these country’s but I’ve yet to see a gew 88 with a Czech barrel so they can’t be all too common, another gew 88 worth mentioning is the hanyang 88s, which used an 8mm cartridge that was essentially 8mm mauser but had a bore diameter more inline with the original 8mm Mauser diameter
@@rakumprojects I should have kept mine it was a turcked one*
I follow your channel because i like watching shooting videos. I dont agree with allot of your opinions, or advice including the exaggerated recoil from a 3006!! But dang thats funny!! Lol 😂
You kinda sound like Craig from South Park
Incorrect information on the original groove diameter. It was .318. Mine is S stamped Styer made 88/05. And it is still. .318 groove diameter.
ruclips.net/video/QzoXST7_iFk/видео.htmlsi=k7lX3LPcfIAJ-ndb
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrone_88
There's a lot of discussion threads online regarding the actual original bore diameter, so much so that it's hard to tell what is correct. I'm not sure if wikipedia is an accurate source or if my sources which say .321" bore and .318" projectile are correct.
But that's not the point of the video, the point is that you should slug your bore before shooting these rifles. Sounds like you did so.
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3900 joules into a paper target. 🤦♂️No It's more boring than shooting at a paper target or an iron gong. An old washing machine or water jug. Those are targets. And you can draw a small dot on them.
dislike just cuz you dont know how to shoot...why do ya need that thung below the rifle, just use hands, and the bolt manipulating is horrible. use your hand not fingers