Important to remember that the ww2 rifle and this differ in many small and large ways that add up to a large difference in manufacture difficulty and time.
they didnt make them out of full wood most of them are made out of laminate sheets , so wood glue wood glue wood glue then they put it through a sort of lathe , it was quite fast
I recently made a stock for a cheap airgun I bought, your vídeos helped me a lot. I used a kind of Cedar, and oh boy I regret it. The stock turned out ok, but the wood have some soft, nearly spongy spots that caused me some issues and almost ruined the piece. It was my first time doing a big project with wood, usually I just make knife handles, and there is a lot for me to learn. I might give it another try in the future, but still, thanks for the vídeos man, they helped a lot
Soft woods like cedar may be easier to cut, but more often than not it only makes shaping harder. I bet you'll have an easier time with something harder like walnut or cherry.
I just realize that Im probably addicted to "dremel'ing that sht out!" as every time you use chisel my subconscious saying: "Just grind that! 30k rpm and YEEEHAAA!" Even I know god damn well that chisel is better, quiet and precise... -_-
Well done! I would encourage you to consider the use of scrapers to remove small amounts of wood. Scrapers can be easily made from scrap such as worn or broken hacksaw blades and custom contoured to match specific areas of the inletting. The actual production of the scraper can literally be done in minutes with nothing but your bench grinder. Again, excellent work. I look forward to seeing more of this project. Reid
The butt plate fitting was so satisfying. I’ve only done it once and I wish I knew your process at the time. I definitely did it the hard way and it took me forever and it didn’t turn out that great. Come to think of it, maybe I’ll redo it having seen your video. Thanks!
It's a good idea to have the bottom metal flush with the bottom of the stock because if you wanted to put a Trench Magazine on it, you wouldn't be able to if the Floorplate was flush (meaning the bottom metal was below the woodline)
@@rakumprojects Heh, good point. I have a rebuilt DWM 1917 Gewehr 98 with a newly made transitional-pattern stock (with finger grooves below the rear sight block) that has a floorplate flush with the stock, so I can't fit the trench magazine to it without re-inletting the bottom metal. I'm super invested into your project. Can't wait to see how it turns out!
I’m sure you encountered this when finding information about the original Kar 98, but the Gewehr 98 booklet from the Bannerman Company in 1921 has a great illustration on the first page with the long rifle, the AZ, and a version of the original Kar 98. The booklet says, “This appears to be the real carbine of the pattern of ‘98. The barrel is 18.5 inches in length, and the rear sight, though similar in pattern to the rifle sight, is smaller.” Also, I wanted to ask about the muzzle covers of 98 rifles. I have one that is brass and unit marked, but I continue to see these steel muzzle covers with a moveable flap on the end. Is the brass one designed for another type of rifle or is it just an earlier muzzle cover? I also wanted to say that this is a fantastic channel and I love the dedication and effort you put into your resurrection of firearms. I wait with anticipation for the next episode!
I actually haven't seen that, thanks for the info! Regarding the muzzle covers, the brass ones are WW1 era and the hinged steel ones are WW2 era. A lot of the brass ones were also used by other countries, particularly in South America, but if yours is unit marked I'd assume it's German.
I’m glad I could give a bit of information! I forgot I had the booklet until I saw the first video and remembered seeing a rifle similar to the one shown. I’m also glad to learn that the brass cover is also for the 98’s. Seeing so many steel covers elsewhere had me questioning whether it was or not.
@@rakumprojects I have looked around and for the life of me I couldn't figure out where to find the c&rsenal discord, is it hidden behind a paywall perhaps?
I used black shoe polish paste when i was fitting Arisaka Type38 action into new self made stock. It was also sporterized, barrel changed to .308win and I turned it to a good hunting rifle with suppressor and scope.
look man, if you wanna get better at woodworking, and you should. i highly recommend working on dovetail keepsake boxes. i get this is probably a personal project, but lipstick, mixed with this sort of random material removal, and using tools in odd instances just wont cut it. I'm gonna keep watching and right now, I'm about 22 minutes in and it really feels like you're getting woodworking advice from Mark Novak. you look like you've got decent tools, and I'm not one of those guys that has brass planes and 200 dollar chisel sets. your gunsmithing ability seems to be A okay, I've got no complaints about it but again: i highly recommend just working on dovetail boxes, or making a couple wedged marking gauges, id recommend making a few fine toothed combs. i also want you to know those recommendations aren't random, and the skills earned from those projects alone are invaluable, mister.
I’ve shortened a NoI MkIII Enfield and an 1903 Springfield that had both been sporterized. Two of my favorite boltguns. Enjoying your build though the narration is not good. Can’t wait for the next chapter.
My email is in the About section of my channel. I'd very much like to see pictures, as well as an exact barrel measurement from the bolt face to the end of the muzzle.
The Europeans and Germans have been crafting firearms since day one. They are known for the craftsmanship. Just look at for example the Luger pistol. Fully machined and hand fit. The early firearms were hand crafted. As the war got on craftsmanship suffered but the early stuff was and is the best stuff.
You're talking about the K98k, which isn't rare (but definitely not "cheap as dirt"). What he is building is a Kar 98 that predates even the K98AZ . You should watch the previous video with all the explanations of the differences between the variants. @tavish4699
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I don't get how they mass produced these in ww2, I takes so much care and work by hand to fit and cut out the wood housing
Specialist machines and tooling, there's actually not much more inletting than on a us rifle, M1
@@willbbwluvrwere the stocks cut by machine or were they all hand cut?
@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK mostly machine cut, some hand fit and finish, just like every rifle of the period
Important to remember that the ww2 rifle and this differ in many small and large ways that add up to a large difference in manufacture difficulty and time.
they didnt make them out of full wood
most of them are made out of laminate sheets , so wood glue wood glue wood glue
then they put it through a sort of lathe , it was quite fast
I recently made a stock for a cheap airgun I bought, your vídeos helped me a lot. I used a kind of Cedar, and oh boy I regret it. The stock turned out ok, but the wood have some soft, nearly spongy spots that caused me some issues and almost ruined the piece. It was my first time doing a big project with wood, usually I just make knife handles, and there is a lot for me to learn. I might give it another try in the future, but still, thanks for the vídeos man, they helped a lot
Soft woods like cedar may be easier to cut, but more often than not it only makes shaping harder. I bet you'll have an easier time with something harder like walnut or cherry.
Your attention to detail always astonishes me.
Great work as always, love your videos! Looking forward to the rest of the series.
You should use guide screws, that way the trigger will line up. And push the action forward and shim the recoil lug.
I just realize that Im probably addicted to "dremel'ing that sht out!" as every time you use chisel my subconscious saying: "Just grind that! 30k rpm and YEEEHAAA!" Even I know god damn well that chisel is better, quiet and precise... -_-
Beautiful job brother! Excellent chisel work! 👍🏻
Truly inspiring. And such a unique variant
Great work , can't wait to see the end product.
Can't wait for part 3. Great Video. God Bless
Just watched the first vid yesterday, this was a pleasant surprise!
Well done! I would encourage you to consider the use of scrapers to remove small amounts of wood. Scrapers can be easily made from scrap such as worn or broken hacksaw blades and custom contoured to match specific areas of the inletting. The actual production of the scraper can literally be done in minutes with nothing but your bench grinder. Again, excellent work. I look forward to seeing more of this project.
Reid
I have a few card scrapers that I made from an old saw blade. I just need to remember to use them!
“I don’t see where it’s touching but it won’t go flush”
A perfect summary of every time I do inletting.
Love the smithing work awesome job
Pretty darn good inletting tutorial !
Great Job! I'm an old dog, and I am learning new tricks from you!
The butt plate fitting was so satisfying. I’ve only done it once and I wish I knew your process at the time. I definitely did it the hard way and it took me forever and it didn’t turn out that great. Come to think of it, maybe I’ll redo it having seen your video. Thanks!
Nice work as always 👏👏
Thanks alot, with guidance from your Krag stock making videos, I made a Martini Henry stock for a dug-up relic Martini I bought.
Nice job!!!
I didn't think I needed lipsticks in my toolbox. Maybe I should reconsider.
Very nice work!!
I once looked at the carving on a sportered Ross service rifle. Clearly they had a dept where guys were fitting the stocks with hand chisels.
This is so cool so far
Great chisel work as per usual
It's a good idea to have the bottom metal flush with the bottom of the stock because if you wanted to put a Trench Magazine on it, you wouldn't be able to if the Floorplate was flush (meaning the bottom metal was below the woodline)
That would look funny. A short carbine with a huge magazine
@@rakumprojects Heh, good point. I have a rebuilt DWM 1917 Gewehr 98 with a newly made transitional-pattern stock (with finger grooves below the rear sight block) that has a floorplate flush with the stock, so I can't fit the trench magazine to it without re-inletting the bottom metal. I'm super invested into your project. Can't wait to see how it turns out!
I like to use candle sooting for inletting. My wife doesn't wear war paint, and the inletting ink goop is way too messy.
Nice job sir
You have very well-maintained chisels
I’m sure you encountered this when finding information about the original Kar 98, but the Gewehr 98 booklet from the Bannerman Company in 1921 has a great illustration on the first page with the long rifle, the AZ, and a version of the original Kar 98.
The booklet says, “This appears to be the real carbine of the pattern of ‘98. The barrel is 18.5 inches in length, and the rear sight, though similar in pattern to the rifle sight, is smaller.”
Also, I wanted to ask about the muzzle covers of 98 rifles. I have one that is brass and unit marked, but I continue to see these steel muzzle covers with a moveable flap on the end. Is the brass one designed for another type of rifle or is it just an earlier muzzle cover?
I also wanted to say that this is a fantastic channel and I love the dedication and effort you put into your resurrection of firearms. I wait with anticipation for the next episode!
I actually haven't seen that, thanks for the info!
Regarding the muzzle covers, the brass ones are WW1 era and the hinged steel ones are WW2 era. A lot of the brass ones were also used by other countries, particularly in South America, but if yours is unit marked I'd assume it's German.
I’m glad I could give a bit of information! I forgot I had the booklet until I saw the first video and remembered seeing a rifle similar to the one shown. I’m also glad to learn that the brass cover is also for the 98’s. Seeing so many steel covers elsewhere had me questioning whether it was or not.
Have you considered making a discord server or somewhere else to discuss things other than youtube?
I'm active on the C&Rsenal discord
@@rakumprojects I have looked around and for the life of me I couldn't figure out where to find the c&rsenal discord, is it hidden behind a paywall perhaps?
Why wouldn't you use inletting compound?
Awesome
You are an surgeon with that chisel
I used black shoe polish paste when i was fitting Arisaka Type38 action into new self made stock. It was also sporterized, barrel changed to .308win and I turned it to a good hunting rifle with suppressor and scope.
look man, if you wanna get better at woodworking, and you should. i highly recommend working on dovetail keepsake boxes. i get this is probably a personal project, but lipstick, mixed with this sort of random material removal, and using tools in odd instances just wont cut it. I'm gonna keep watching and right now, I'm about 22 minutes in and it really feels like you're getting woodworking advice from Mark Novak. you look like you've got decent tools, and I'm not one of those guys that has brass planes and 200 dollar chisel sets. your gunsmithing ability seems to be A okay, I've got no complaints about it but again: i highly recommend just working on dovetail boxes, or making a couple wedged marking gauges, id recommend making a few fine toothed combs. i also want you to know those recommendations aren't random, and the skills earned from those projects alone are invaluable, mister.
I’ve shortened a NoI MkIII Enfield and an 1903 Springfield that had both been sporterized. Two of my favorite boltguns. Enjoying your build though the narration is not good. Can’t wait for the next chapter.
Hey buddy, wrong butt plate . They used Kar98az butt plate . They were the first to use that style of butt plate .
Have you watched part one?
Yes , I have. I have 3 of those original Kar98. It took 25 years to restore them. Give me your email and I will send you photos.
Karl
My email is in the About section of my channel. I'd very much like to see pictures, as well as an exact barrel measurement from the bolt face to the end of the muzzle.
I will try and send you more pictures, having trouble. It gets sent back !
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The Europeans and Germans have been crafting firearms since day one. They are known for the craftsmanship. Just look at for example the Luger pistol. Fully machined and hand fit. The early firearms were hand crafted. As the war got on craftsmanship suffered but the early stuff was and is the best stuff.
you could also just buy one
Do you have any idea how rare they are?
@@Luftwaffel1944 what is rare ?
I own one myself they are not rare
They made millions
They are as cheap as dirt
There also a gazillion stocks to buy
You're talking about the K98k, which isn't rare (but definitely not "cheap as dirt").
What he is building is a Kar 98 that predates even the K98AZ . You should watch the previous video with all the explanations of the differences between the variants.
@tavish4699
He explains why in the first video