Manufacturing the M1917 Bolt-Action Rifle - ORIGINAL FOOTAGE

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • Watch the M1917 bolt-action rifle take shape, from raw forging to finished rifle, in this footage shot during the Spring of 1918.
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  • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
    @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад +112

    This was filmed at Winchester. Slush and Cosmoline are similar, but different enough that the military uses them for different applications and even has different standards and classifications for them.

    • @fredkeele6578
      @fredkeele6578 2 года назад +4

      Was the slush a wax based or oil based coating?

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 2 года назад +17

      I just a week ago had the once-in-a-lifetime experience of cleaning a FULLY cosmoline rifle. It was soooo much fun I’ll never do it again!

    • @Spudmuffinz
      @Spudmuffinz 2 года назад +12

      Cosmoline is the gift that keeps on giving every time you shoot

    • @2011woodlands
      @2011woodlands Год назад +7

      The guy putting the receiver on doesn't look like he is over tightening it, but if you ever have to take one off, it's one of the hardest to remove.

    • @herrcobblermachen
      @herrcobblermachen Год назад +6

      @@2011woodlands yeah I was thinking to myself "THATS the guy to blame for all the hardships..."

  • @johnhudak3829
    @johnhudak3829 2 года назад +181

    My great grandfather was a machinist and worked at the Eddystone factory during the Great War. I have a copy of his draft card where he is listed as an “essential worker”

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад +15

      That's really cool! What an awesome piece of family history!

    • @TheLpjoe
      @TheLpjoe 11 месяцев назад +9

      It's entirely possible that you great grandfathers fingerprints were once on something in my safe that has been in my family since new and I am the third generation owner of that I absolutely cherish.

    • @gregkelly8014
      @gregkelly8014 10 месяцев назад +2

      Then I have a rifle he made and it still shoots great. be proud

    • @Fettigkeit
      @Fettigkeit 9 месяцев назад

      I wonder if he made part of my rifle

    • @BassAngler
      @BassAngler 8 месяцев назад +2

      I also have a 1917 Eddystone and live about 10 minutes from the original plant location

  • @michaelquillen2679
    @michaelquillen2679 2 года назад +48

    I bought a sporterized Eddystone M1917 back in 1968 (with my father's help) for $40. It was manufactured in September of 1917. We redid the stock and barrel so that the rifle had a floating barrel. Can put 3 rounds into a Skoal can lid at 100 yards with this ol' girl. Have taken many deer, pronghorn, and elk with this rifle over the past 53 years. It's 104 years old and still performing like a champ. This rifle will still be able to do its job long after I'm gone!

    • @michaelquillen2679
      @michaelquillen2679 2 года назад +1

      @wyomarine The ol' boy who did the sporterization on mine didn't do a very good job and as such, it did not group well for him. All my dad and I did was pour a glass bedding in the stock for a floating barrel and bam, a decent shooting rifle!

    • @q-man762
      @q-man762 2 года назад +1

      These rifles shoot very well and vintage rifle matches are often won by the 1917 shooter. My 1918 winchester has the original barrel and will clean the target at 200 yards all 10's and x's.
      Ps; we share same last name.

    • @kingcosworth2643
      @kingcosworth2643 5 месяцев назад +3

      I've got a sporterised one here in Australia I built as a target rifle. Single taper Shilen barrel etc. I built bluing tanks and polished the rifle before bluing, you can shave in the blue finish, it looks like black chrome. The actions are high in nickel, so in the right light the action actually looks plum in colour, it looks great.

  • @phased-arraych.9150
    @phased-arraych.9150 Год назад +62

    Those men did an outstanding job. They built those rifles to last.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  Год назад +3

      They sure did!

    • @noahbianchi1920
      @noahbianchi1920 7 месяцев назад +4

      I have a Winchester 1917 made in 1918. It’s in excellent condition. 107 years old and going strong!

  • @mohawkdriver4155
    @mohawkdriver4155 10 месяцев назад +98

    My Winchester M1917 was made here, by men who are long since gone. I'm fortunate to own this piece of history.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  10 месяцев назад +5

      The history really is quite impressive, isn't it?

    • @mohawkdriver4155
      @mohawkdriver4155 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@HighCaliberHistoryLLC indeed it is.

    •  24 дня назад +1

      Be sure & check 4- a made in Mexico-China stamp - LOL

    • @HDSME
      @HDSME 23 дня назад +1

      I did like how they checked and bent the barrels ! Very very crude
      They were making 1800 a day at eddystone and another 1800 in other places

    • @garymckee63
      @garymckee63 22 дня назад +3

      It probably works and shoots well.

  • @tonyfromaustralia21
    @tonyfromaustralia21 2 года назад +125

    I purchased an Eddystone M1917 in m-i-n-t condition in the 1970s. The bore was like a mirror. The rifle must have spent years in an armoury as there were no dings or bruising on the wood work and the metal work was like new. Manufactured in November of 1917, it was exceptionally accurate out to 800 yards. Regret selling it a few years ago.

    • @ericrumpel3105
      @ericrumpel3105 2 года назад +13

      same for my Father, but, he bought his in the late fifties-early sixties....looked & shot like yours aswell, except some prick stole his from our home & he always missed that rifle till the day he died.

    • @torqueguy1
      @torqueguy1 2 года назад +3

      Nice gun. I regret a swede mauser myself

    • @donaldduck4867
      @donaldduck4867 2 года назад +12

      Never sell your guns!😫

    • @bobwise1347
      @bobwise1347 2 года назад +1

      😱

    • @dennisp.2147
      @dennisp.2147 2 года назад +6

      Many of these rifles were arsenal refurbished prior to and during WWII and then never issued. You can find old ads selling them post-war for just a few dollars. My Eddystone is the same. Mirror bore and accurate as all get out. Short of having to feed my kids, I'm never selling it, or my Winchester version.

  • @josephmarciano4761
    @josephmarciano4761 24 дня назад +9

    A case of rifles! I'll take 2 cases. I bought a 1903A1 (Star Gauge bore) Springfield through the DCM in 1960. I think it was about $15 dollars. It took a week of baking the stock in a warm oven overnight to get all the Cosmoline out. My Mom was furious. Surplus WW II 30:06 Ball ammo was plentiful, but they had that damn corrosive primer. Come home from the range, stick the muzzle into the toilet bowl, add soap and swab. That washed out the mercury salts and kept the bore pristine. I sold it for $50 in 1968. I see them for sale now at $20,000!

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  24 дня назад +4

      If I had a time machine, I'd buy so much surplus! Also, I know how Cosmoline smells just with a heat gun, so I can only imagine how it smelled permeating the house for hours on end!!!

  • @garysmith5781
    @garysmith5781 24 дня назад +7

    I bought a 1918 Winchester M1917 from the CMP North Store a few months ago. It is a VFW turn in, absolute perfect shape, I've fired it a few times. Beautiful rifle..cool piece of history..

  • @garyproeber2871
    @garyproeber2871 2 года назад +30

    I have a 1917 Eddystone. I found it in a gun store I was browsing through. It's in great shape. The first rifle I ever bought after I came home from Marines in 1975. I still have it.

    • @donaldduck4867
      @donaldduck4867 2 года назад +7

      Never sell it.

    • @factorybear5264
      @factorybear5264 2 года назад +1

      @wyomarine Greetings sir. Just found this video in my feed and was scrolling through the comments section to read peoples stories about their personal rifles and your comment struck me and decided to reply to you. I too have a very early sporterized Winchester all around that you would appreciate. Very well done wood work on it. Someone shaved off the top and bottom of the butt stock and added wood by dovetailing it to the original wood and turned it into a Monte Carlo. Amazing work sir. Was thinking of restoring it but whoever sporterized it did a fantastic job at it. I’ll keep it this way.

  • @splean75
    @splean75 2 года назад +52

    I have one of these rifles. I would never have guessed so many people were involved in hand-fitting it. Thanks for posting the video!

  • @stevelewis7263
    @stevelewis7263 2 года назад +68

    Today's HEALTH & SAFETY inspectors would have a fit seeing this

    • @raditya5663
      @raditya5663 2 года назад +7

      Some of them use necktie when operting lathe

    • @kenstirling5348
      @kenstirling5348 2 года назад +4

      I was thinking the same thing the entire time.

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 2 года назад +8

      Steve Lewis, you forget…THIS IS WAR! 😎

    • @turboconqueringmegaeagle9006
      @turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 2 года назад +6

      What are you talking about, they've even put a chain over the pit of stock finishing oil

    • @georgesheffield1580
      @georgesheffield1580 8 месяцев назад +2

      Responsible and aware workers .

  • @zebracherub
    @zebracherub 3 месяца назад +6

    This is beautiful ! So much technology and work going into these pieces. And now generations later we can still enjoy them. It really makes me look at old guns in another way. I really want to buy a M1917 just because now lol

  • @yota4004
    @yota4004 2 года назад +36

    these workmen did an outstanding job for their country, this rifle was known to be reliable and accurate. many are still in civilian use today.

    • @Someguy6571
      @Someguy6571 2 года назад +1

      Got a 1918 Winchester myself. Barrel stamp shows 7-18 on it. Production number 120369

  • @crfyou5767
    @crfyou5767 2 года назад +57

    Thank you so much for this. I love my Eddystone. It’s amazingly accurate. I shoot it more than my modern rifles.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад +7

      They're definitely great guns! Thanks for watching!

    • @frankatchison2519
      @frankatchison2519 2 года назад +2

      With just the origional Iron peep's Mine will put all 5 shot's in the black at 250 yard's with the elevation adjustment down!👍😳It is Stamped Winchester on almost every part.

    • @dennishein2812
      @dennishein2812 2 года назад +3

      I have an eddy stone too. Great gun.

    • @tays8306
      @tays8306 2 года назад +2

      Another eddystone here too. P14 in tree oh tree though.

    • @karlchristoffer1275
      @karlchristoffer1275 2 года назад +2

      Have Eddystone too, love to shoot and handle it. Had a Winchester 17 about 50 years ago.. miss it! Best from DK.

  • @TheMwarrior50
    @TheMwarrior50 2 года назад +34

    I wish we could re-manufacture these old battle rifles. I really do.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад +8

      They truly don't make them like they used to.

    • @Andrew-McCormick
      @Andrew-McCormick 8 месяцев назад +4

      as nice as that would be, theres "enough" surplus to not have as big a demand as one would wish, and even if they did they wouldn't hold up like originals,, and they'd be retardedly expensive

    • @tomgarrett9232
      @tomgarrett9232 21 день назад +2

      Actually, it can be done. They’d be about $1,800 each and no one would buy them…

    • @asakayosapro
      @asakayosapro 17 дней назад

      It would only take a bunch of plans and blueprints for it to be freely available on the net, and everyone who wants one having their own home machine shop, but yes, we can make our own. It's all dimensions, tolerances, and a lot of work and time. It would be a reproduction and not an 'original', but it will most likely perform the same way.
      *Treasure your 2nd Amendment rights!*

  • @watcher01a17
    @watcher01a17 2 года назад +14

    One of the best rifles ever made.
    It's amazing to see how different the manufacturing process was in some ways compared to now, and also how similar some others still are.

  • @davemiller3027
    @davemiller3027 3 года назад +29

    I really find the test firing to be interesting. The indoor range then the 500 yard range. That was quite something. The rifle came already sighted in, all the soldiers had to do was clean off the slushing materials and test fire and off to the trenches they go.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  3 года назад +17

      Yeah, you expect them to be fired as a function check, but not to be tested out to 500 yards!

    • @SGTDuckButter
      @SGTDuckButter 2 года назад +7

      No, only a general sighting in so the soldier can hit paper. Every gun needs to be sighted in by the individual soldier. That’s why soldiers are issued the same weapon once they have it sighted in.

    • @christopherharmon2433
      @christopherharmon2433 2 года назад +1

      Was slushing done instead of packing them in cosmoline? (Or had it not been invented yet?)

    • @ricktaylor5744
      @ricktaylor5744 2 года назад +1

      @@christopherharmon2433 that's a good question I wonder if maybe slushing is just the what they call the process of putting the cosmoline on?

    • @tempestmkiv
      @tempestmkiv 2 года назад +3

      @@ricktaylor5744 Slushing appears to be some sort of preservative alright but I had no luck googling it. I have two M17's both customized and both great shooters.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 2 года назад +43

    this is so cool, I bought one of these in the summer of 1968, mine was a Winchester and the barrel date was March 1918....I still own it and it is amazing.....thanks for posting

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад +4

      Glad you've still got it! Thanks for watching!

    • @scottyjordan9023
      @scottyjordan9023 2 года назад +4

      I have the same rifle barrel date May 1918

    • @hpmacmurray
      @hpmacmurray 2 года назад +2

      Have one too. 308 norma magnum. Fine weapon.

    • @splean75
      @splean75 2 года назад +2

      I believe the Winchester manufactured rifles are especially rare.

    • @ypaulbrown
      @ypaulbrown 2 года назад +2

      @@splean75 they made about 500,000 I believe, I have a Winchester.....U.S. Model of 1917

  • @willypp13
    @willypp13 23 дня назад +4

    Those men are like little gods, creating something special

  • @HuasoPodrido
    @HuasoPodrido 25 дней назад +2

    I got my M1917 from a friend many years ago. He had bought 3 at a gun show back when they still sold weapons at decent prices. It's a Winchester dated 1918.

  • @ChrisTopher-zo1vg
    @ChrisTopher-zo1vg 2 года назад +12

    Would love to have just one of those fresh off the line! Nice video!!

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад +2

      I'd love to have one too!

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 2 года назад

      @@HighCaliberHistoryLLC I’d rather have one (and do) that has seen some use. Been in the hands of a soldier, has some character.

  • @JEJAK5396
    @JEJAK5396 2 года назад +12

    My Great Grandfather carried one in France and Belgium during the War.

  • @johnhodges8264
    @johnhodges8264 2 года назад +1

    I know it is speeded up but I love the speed at which workers work when being filmed, immposible to keep up over an 8 hour shift.!

  • @scottyjordan9023
    @scottyjordan9023 2 года назад +4

    Awesome rifle. I have the Winchester model manufactured in May 1918

  • @dennisclapp7527
    @dennisclapp7527 19 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the history

  • @dondouglass6415
    @dondouglass6415 23 дня назад +1

    Fantastic footage... Considering this is so long ago, the speed of the mass production is phenomenal. Huzzah! 😊

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  23 дня назад

      It's sped up a bit from its original filming format, but this is how it was presented once digitized.

  • @andrewdiez8353
    @andrewdiez8353 Год назад +11

    It truly is an amazing sight to have a recording of how the 1917 was made from start to finish. Owning one of these rifles is an even greater honor! (Mine is stamped May 1918)

  • @BernardoBerndsen
    @BernardoBerndsen 7 месяцев назад +2

    These dude worked at light speed lol. Not one pair of safety glasses or gloves. Awesome footage, thank for putting it up!

  • @miketaylorID1
    @miketaylorID1 3 года назад +8

    Best shooting rifle of The Great War. IMHO. I wonder which plant this was.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  3 года назад +2

      This was at Winchester.

    • @nesquick84
      @nesquick84 2 года назад +1

      @@HighCaliberHistoryLLC that's where mine is from! Has a barrel date of 2-18

  • @MidwesternFC
    @MidwesternFC 3 месяца назад +1

    What an excellent video. Amazing mechanization. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @smplyizzy
    @smplyizzy 7 месяцев назад +14

    Back when a firearm was viewed as an inanimate object.

    • @diffened
      @diffened 25 дней назад

      Yes, pretty sure back then nobody was screaming about their 2nd amendment rights. Now, people want to "sleep" with their guns.

    • @ToreDL87
      @ToreDL87 25 дней назад +1

      @@diffened Don't miss the one where other people wants said rights taken away.

    • @diffened
      @diffened 25 дней назад

      @@ToreDL87 nobody has ever said that. We want to limit. " A well regulated militia...". ".....a well regulated militia......" It's quite clear what the framers intended if you have any ability to read the English language andd have read about that time in history. They didn't intend to have nutjobs buying guns and killing dozens at a time for sport.

    • @jeffwheeler3427
      @jeffwheeler3427 22 дня назад

      AMEN!!!

    • @USAMontanan
      @USAMontanan 21 день назад

      Back when they could barely afford a gun too

  • @JF-xq6fr
    @JF-xq6fr Год назад +3

    My Winchester 1917 (made in 1918) had an Elmer Kieth inspection mark, gotten when he did such work at the Ogden Arsenal.

  • @harryburge9803
    @harryburge9803 2 года назад +4

    Looking at the old belt driven machines is is a miracle that these craftsmen produced such an accurate firearm!! Wish I had bought one when they were more readily available!!!

    • @dennisp.2147
      @dennisp.2147 2 года назад +1

      I picked up a mint Eddystone for about $275 15 years ago. Obviously those days are gone, but you can still find them for sub $500.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 года назад +1

      Nothing inherently inaccurate about belt-driven machines. A buddy has one that still gets use in his shop.

  • @randyr.9643
    @randyr.9643 2 года назад +1

    I have a very nice Eddystone 1917 that was passed down from my grandfather to me. He bought in back in the 50's and wanted it because that's the rifle he trained with in basic training during WW2. I have used it deer hunting and still target shoot with it to this day.

  • @marcuszerr
    @marcuszerr 2 года назад +12

    Great over 100 (!) year old motion picture about incredible machining and craftmanship! But at what point happened the rifling process of the barrel?

  • @FfHgg-np5nk
    @FfHgg-np5nk 15 дней назад +1

    Great work

  • @kenstirling5348
    @kenstirling5348 2 года назад +10

    It’s amazing how things were made back in the day. Handle one of these rifles and you can tell it was made by a real craftsman

  • @zacharysuperchi9928
    @zacharysuperchi9928 Год назад +10

    America was so beautiful then. Wish it was like that now .

    • @87mini
      @87mini 23 дня назад +1

      103 million people back then, 333 million now.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 23 дня назад

      Not shown: anyone not of fairer complexion. Or the slums of naturalized Americans. Or the rampant racism...

  • @zeninabox9818
    @zeninabox9818 2 года назад +2

    Always slush your rifle before shipping! Lol.
    Amazing video.

  • @telurkucing5006
    @telurkucing5006 2 года назад +5

    02:13 how they able to create a nice 800yrd accuracy rifle with just looking and spinning wheels like that especially when there are no computer that able to verify their work accuracy, what serious proffesional gentlement.

  • @NgJackal1990
    @NgJackal1990 2 месяца назад +1

    Wow people used to work so fast back then! Look how fast they do their job, must be one heck of a pay!

  • @SVT40AK47
    @SVT40AK47 Год назад +1

    This would be an incredible film for someone to clean up and speed correct and colorize. Awesome video!

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  Год назад

      Totally agree! If I had the ability to do the cleaning and coloring I would, but alas, I don't. Thanks for watching!

    • @SVT40AK47
      @SVT40AK47 Год назад

      @@HighCaliberHistoryLLC I can’t remember the name he channel. I will look up all the channels I am subscribed to. But he is the one that cleans up films from 1890’s-1920’s puts very good color on them and corrects the speed. Again, I will try to find him. Wonder who has the rights to this video, if anyone by now?

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  Год назад

      @@SVT40AK47 It's in the public domain.

  • @americanmilitiaman88
    @americanmilitiaman88 2 года назад +2

    I had a winchester M1917 made may of 1918. Payed 75 bucks for it. It was in great condition only bad part was it was a sporterized stock.

  • @gregkelly8014
    @gregkelly8014 10 месяцев назад +1

    its amazing how much was done by hand must be why they are such great weapons and still shoot great

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  10 месяцев назад

      The world was a very different place in 1918.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 23 дня назад

      It was not. What you are seeing is what 150 years worth of small changes in manufacturing culminated. Most of what they did was no different from what the Springfield Armory pioneered in 1856, and that armory is instrumental in the development of mass production as an industrial practice. "Done by hand" in industrial engineering means "the whole product is made by one person or a small group of persons doing more than one aspect of production"; notice how many steps each person makes in the manufacturing of the gun? It's only one. If you want to see a gun "done by hand", watch that film about that colonial gunsmith from Williamsburg...

  • @markcampbell2054
    @markcampbell2054 22 дня назад +4

    It's amazing how much hand work went into each rifle. How much difference between someone who really cared and someone just doing a job could make.

  • @thewolfhunter
    @thewolfhunter 2 года назад +5

    I have a non re-import Eddystone M1917..In great condition. Barrel date 12- 17'

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer 24 дня назад +3

    When my Eddystone M17 needed a new barrel, the original barrel apparently put up a horrific fight for the hapless gunsmith. The gunsmith said, that some guy weighing 300 pounds must have screwed it in while standing on a pipe wrench.

  • @michaelmckellar7620
    @michaelmckellar7620 2 года назад +5

    Among those of us that have had the Springfield, Mauser 8mm and the 1917/ or P14,
    It's amazing that the 1917 and P14 is on average the most accurate of the three. Especially when you see builder sighting barrels by eye and making correction in straightness with a 40 oz hammer! From a Battle field aspect the American Enfield US model 1917 and the British P14 are the most robust and resistant to damage of all the rifles. The battle ears on the front and rear sights are excellent at protecting the sights and the action so over built that it has been used to build African dangerous game rifles by numerous established Bespoke builders in calibers such as 458 Lott and 416 Rigby.
    Companies such as Westley-Richards, A-Square Firearms and even Roy Weatherby in his early days sporadically used those 1917 and British P14 actions to build their custom ordered rifles.

  • @robertanderson1272
    @robertanderson1272 6 месяцев назад

    Have both the P14 and P17 the 17 is eddystone still enjoy shooting it.

  • @factorybear5264
    @factorybear5264 2 года назад +5

    Probably my favorite video on the internet. Amazing rifles. They’re still in use by Danish Sled Dog army units that patrol Greenland. They’re superior to anything modern because of their reliability in extreme cold weather conditions. They use them for defense against polar bears.

  • @Garandasaurus
    @Garandasaurus 2 года назад +7

    Wow, the quality and handwork is amazing. I have a couple of eddy stones and I love them and shoot them. Tough rifles.

  • @T8Hants
    @T8Hants 2 года назад +6

    I have two P14 Winchesters, they would have been made in exactly the same way

  • @davidv.3135
    @davidv.3135 2 года назад +12

    My favorite military bolt action rifle! Thanks!

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @OldManMontgomery
      @OldManMontgomery 2 года назад

      Good taste, sir. Next to the Lee-Enfield #3, one of the best military rifles ever. Absolutely the best .3006 Springfield rifles. And we got the design handed to us by the Brits.

  • @dp-sr1fd
    @dp-sr1fd 2 года назад +6

    Like most films of the period (on both sides of the Atlantic) very little or no safety clothing or equipment at all.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад +4

      Yep, churning out the war work as fast as possible was the name of the game, and getting hurt was an accepted hazard of the job.

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles 2 года назад

      They believed in Darwin back then. Now it's lawyers.

  • @WV591
    @WV591 2 года назад +2

    Imagine every piece of equipment and machinery was made in the USA and with American steel. the proud days. before we were sold out and became china's Who** and the wood from American forest.

  • @chiphailstone589
    @chiphailstone589 8 месяцев назад

    The 1917's have one hella tight barrel to receiver fit, and I understood they were "Hot fitted", but that guy twirling the receiver to those barrels wasnt torquing them that tight. Must have been a fitter, and a final crank on it would come next?

  • @darkoflight4938
    @darkoflight4938 2 года назад +6

    Wonderful documentation! Not just from an old weapons manufacturing standpoint. Interesting to see the working conditions of yester years. The lack eye or ear (or anything else) protections. Wonder how they felt after a shift. Half deaf, aching all over.

    • @geraldreynolds9650
      @geraldreynolds9650 2 года назад +4

      Also Dermatitis from hands covered in oil all day.Dust from the sanding etc.

    • @ChallisVenstra
      @ChallisVenstra 2 года назад +2

      No wonder they drank so much. Right?

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 2 года назад +2

      @@ChallisVenstra reminds me of talk I heard among the older machinists at Wagner Mining winter of 1988 - mention of after-work “Long Island Teas” and such. Was working Swing, then - 3:30 -12:00 midnight. Bars closed at 2:30 AM, I think.
      I never went to those places. I was usually too tired at the end of my shift - far more disabled than I knew at the time. Would stop at a grocery store on the way home, quart of buttermilk, loaf of French bread. It seemed to help.

    • @seanbreheny9777
      @seanbreheny9777 2 года назад +2

      It looked like the indoor range test firing guys had ear plugs but other than that, yeah, the lack of protective equipment is striking. In Hatcher's Notebook, Gen. Hatcher (who was heavily involved in small arms procurement and development for the US Army around the time this was filmed) highly recommends eye protection when firing rifles. He was writing in 1946, though, so I don't know if he recommended it in 1918 yet.

    • @dannyarrowheadstalker3054
      @dannyarrowheadstalker3054 2 года назад +2

      They were wearing the greatest protection of the time, the leather apron.

  • @mtbodyfarm5174
    @mtbodyfarm5174 2 года назад +5

    1917 Winchester, best shooting rifle i ever owned. Got it in 1964, still one holes them.

  • @raoulvolfoni1800
    @raoulvolfoni1800 2 года назад +2

    I earn a Eddystone 1917 rifle built in may 1918 . I love that gun and i use it at the range or for wild hogs hunting ...

  • @INeverMetAGunIDidntLike
    @INeverMetAGunIDidntLike 2 года назад +8

    I love my Eddystone.

  • @ragtowne
    @ragtowne 24 дня назад +4

    Belt driven machinery! And the way in which they “straighten” the barrels - and it worked!

  • @gusloader123
    @gusloader123 26 дней назад +1

    Thanks for posting this video. I luuuuv this video !!! I had no idea how automated they were in 1917. I thought they mostly did one at a time. Love the full stocks! I wonder what the "Slurry" process was/did???? I will try a search engine look and maybe find out. Mine was butchered by some wretched "sporterize" criminal. 😪🙁 Cut two inches off the barrel and removed much of the fore-end and all of the top-end wood.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  25 дней назад

      Slushing was a process similar to adding Cosmoline.

    • @gusloader123
      @gusloader123 25 дней назад

      @@HighCaliberHistoryLLC - Okay. Thanks for the information. 🙂

  • @ryanthede4689
    @ryanthede4689 3 года назад +8

    I love the old school turret lathe and what looks like maybe an OD grinder. I'm sure all the coolant they were using was made from lard or some such animal fat. I'd hate to get that in a cut

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  3 года назад +3

      Yeah, definitely a tough place to work, despite the factory being state of the art for its day.

    • @ypaulbrown
      @ypaulbrown 2 года назад +2

      they also used soda water, kerosene, and other wild things, I have machinists books from the era with recommendations on different coolant/lubricants....

    • @ryanthede4689
      @ryanthede4689 2 года назад +1

      @@ypaulbrown that would be pretty a interesting book to take a look at

    • @keithlucas6260
      @keithlucas6260 2 года назад +1

      I've setup and ran quite a few #3 Warner Swazie turret lathes in my day....kinda fun actually.

  • @thitipongkasemwarit3560
    @thitipongkasemwarit3560 2 года назад +4

    What I like about this videos is how bolt action rifle of WW1 were made.
    Springfield 1903
    Gewehr 98
    Mosin Nagant
    Lebel 1886
    No1 MK3
    Steyr M95

  • @bad74maverick1
    @bad74maverick1 2 года назад +1

    I wonder what factory this was? It's not Remington Eddystone for sure. They used an Air machine to screw in the barrels which is why it's so hard to get them out without either cutting a ring relief in the barrel or cracking the receiver. Those barrels were all hand fitted to the receivers.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад

      This was filmed at Winchester.

    • @bad74maverick1
      @bad74maverick1 2 года назад +1

      @@HighCaliberHistoryLLC Thank you. I knew where it wasn't just not where it was!

  • @Jason-fm4my
    @Jason-fm4my 11 месяцев назад

    I think I remember this video from C&Arsenal when they explain what all the tools are. Or it was another factory building 1917s.

  • @barrysmith1651
    @barrysmith1651 2 года назад +1

    Still got mine

  • @mopardoctor9966
    @mopardoctor9966 2 года назад +1

    I have a Eddystone dated 11-18. Shoot it at the range every year on Veterans Day.

  • @ericrumpel3105
    @ericrumpel3105 7 месяцев назад +2

    Back when Men took pride in everything they did - ALL Day/EVERY Day.

  • @freeholdtacticalmed
    @freeholdtacticalmed 2 года назад +7

    My rifle has an 11-17 barrel stamp. I LOVE shooting my WW1 M-1917!

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад

      Nice to have that original barrel! Thanks for watching!

    • @vannygun
      @vannygun 2 года назад

      Mine does too! 11-17! 4 digit serial number, bluing is still fantastic! Mine is a Remington.

    • @noahbianchi1920
      @noahbianchi1920 2 года назад

      Very nice. Mine was rebarreled in ‘32.

  • @MGood-ij1hi
    @MGood-ij1hi 2 года назад +7

    I own several rifles from that era. I wish they could talk .

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад +1

      Right there with ya!

    • @endutubecensorship
      @endutubecensorship 2 года назад +5

      I'd imagine the shouting matches in your cabinet would be epic. German and English while the Austrian and French ones glare at each other.

  • @craigpennington1251
    @craigpennington1251 21 день назад +2

    The 1917 Enfield was a great tack driving rifle. I've own all three Makes & the Eddystone was the best. Fit & finish plus smoothness of action was perfection. Absolutely great sights ,bar none. Thanks for posting.

  • @Thepriest39
    @Thepriest39 2 года назад +4

    People busting their ass for an honest days wage. Can't find that anymore. I also love all of the open machinery. Safety was up to you. Watch where you put your hands if you want to keep them.

  • @B25gunship
    @B25gunship 24 дня назад +2

    I have a Pattern 14 which is the British version of this rifle in 303 British caliber. Made by Winchester for the British. It was very nicely and professionally sporterized when I bought it. I had always heard how accurate the Winchester manufactured rifles were. This one is wicked accurate. Half inch groups at 100 yards. With the military trigger to boot. I've never seen anything this accurate.

  • @jimm3093
    @jimm3093 2 года назад +2

    LOLOLOL!
    If today's lazy generation "worked" as fast as these guys in this 100 year old film, skilled labor would still be in demand.
    Or that stupid cameraman needed to learn how to properly time his frame rate.

    • @fredbasset1711
      @fredbasset1711 2 года назад

      They may have been working at a piece work scale.

  • @frankatchison2519
    @frankatchison2519 2 года назад +4

    I have a 1915 P.14 .303 British made by Winchester. Most accurate rifle I have ever fired, and I have hunted since I was 11. Everything from Deer, Elk, Moose, and even a Grizzley have fell to it. Thanks for the Video! Some idiot chopped the stock but other than that it is untouched + 98% condition. Do you know where I can get an original Stock + Band's? Bad Ace has no drill scope mount's.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching. As for a stock, I'd check eBay and GunBroker.

    • @dennisp.2147
      @dennisp.2147 2 года назад

      You're out of luck for a P-14 new made stock as far as I know. IIRC Boyd's makes a 1917 stock that should fit, but is incorrect. There was a batch of Pattern 14 drill rifles that came into the US about 20 years ago and most were broken up for parts. You can occasionally find stocks for those, but they're not much better than firewood. I've been looking for a stock for my pattern 14 since 1995...

  • @cheesenoodles8316
    @cheesenoodles8316 2 года назад +7

    Great video of a great rifle. Would like to see the counterpart of the Mauser and Enfield.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  2 года назад +4

      I've never encountered footage of Mauser or Enfield in my searches, but it definitely would be cool! Thanks for watching!

    • @WhattAreYouSaying
      @WhattAreYouSaying Месяц назад +1

      There is a video about Mauser Kar98k manufactury, it's called; " Making a K-98 Mauser rifle in Steyr, Austria 1940. "
      It is on YT. (Not my video)

  • @Onethirtytwo
    @Onethirtytwo 2 года назад +13

    Look how accurate they were at 500 yards after such a rough manufacturing process. I mean; the shank of the barrel wasn't even secured in the lathe when he cut the chamber! I love this video!

    • @craigcooper8593
      @craigcooper8593 2 года назад +1

      I suspect there may have been a bit of fudging involved.
      Propaganda.

    • @Onethirtytwo
      @Onethirtytwo 2 года назад +3

      @@craigcooper8593 No propaganda; these rifles are still very accurate today even after being around for 120+ years. There's a video on the Forgotten Weapons channel of them taking a 1917 Enfield out to 1000 yards with hand loads.

    • @jacksonthompson7099
      @jacksonthompson7099 Год назад

      Very true BUT at least with mine that process shows its self, doesn't close on a field guage but its not far off probably in the 80-85% range of a bolt throw or more, also at least with the current bolt in it the action isn't true due to bulges at the case head. Rifle will be seeing a gunsmith within the next few months. Bolt is eddystone as well as the rifle and im currently looking at bolts to try closing up the headspace a little. Sights, trigger are awesome! And interestingly I have a weird follower in mine that acts like a single feed, its just a round follower versus the more traditional style followers you see in almost every other military bolt action rifle out there.
      Best way to describe how it works is instead of feeding a round into the box magazine where ya hear the click when its in, this follower you just place the round on it and push the bolt home, as a result you won't know your rifle is empty either till you hear a click since the follower won't hold the bolt back when empty.

  • @spearstactical7643
    @spearstactical7643 7 дней назад +2

    Wonderful to see Old School Firearms manufacturing procedures, American "MEN" Black/White Working side by side Together,...Getting SHIT Done, as One!
    WTF ? Happened to Us?!

  • @trevorgale1176
    @trevorgale1176 2 года назад +24

    Just amazing footage, laughed at how they straightened the barrels. Thanks.

    • @altblechasyl_cs2093
      @altblechasyl_cs2093 2 года назад +12

      It's the same procedure like today. 🤷‍♂️

    • @norwegianwiking
      @norwegianwiking 2 года назад +6

      I've seen a German news segment filmed at HK, and they had a guy straighten 416 barrels with an almost identical machine.

    • @altblechasyl_cs2093
      @altblechasyl_cs2093 2 года назад +6

      @@norwegianwiking That guy will be called the Laufrichter, it's a verified profession in Germany. 😉

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 2 года назад +5

      Yep, and this causes a lot of confusion when people read about how a barrel maker checks their barrel blanks for "straightness" after they cut the rifling in one, that procedure is done with a tool called an Air Guage, and a better term to use for what they do at that point would be to say they're checking the bore for uniformity down it's length, ie the bore is the same diameter from one end to the other and doesn't have any points in it where it gets narrower or wider.
      The way an Air Guage wirks is there's an insert that is put in the barrel that's a steel rod that goes down it's entire length that has a sleeve that you pull down it, an air hose hooks up to it that has a guage on it that's clear plastic that has a vertical hole in it with a little ball bearing inside the hole that floats up and down in it, when you pull the sleeve of the Air Guage down it's length and the bore of the gun barrel gets wider at any point down it let's more air past the sleeve of the Air Guage and the ball bearing in the the indicator rises, likewise if the bore of the barrel gets narrower at any point the ball bearing drops in the indicator.
      These Air Guage's are incredibly accurate, they can measure a .0001" (one ten thousandths, that's one tenth of one thousands) variation in bore diameter.
      A "Match Grade" barrel has no more than .0005" (one half of a thousandths) variation in it's diameter anywhere down it's length.
      My friends dad who was a gunsmith and a very smart guy made his own barrel guage, what he did was make a steel rod to put down the length of a barrel with a sleeve to pull down it but he had it hooked up to the natural gas inside the house, when he turned a valve on the gas would come out the muzzle end of the barrel and he'd light it on fire, he had an adjustable regulator on it so he could adjust it so there was just a little flame at the end of the barrel when he pulled the sleeve through the barrel and it came to a wider point in the bore diameter the flame would get bigger, if the sleeve passed through a tighter point of the bore the flame would get smaller, it was very accurate.

    • @MatthewBaileyBeAfraid
      @MatthewBaileyBeAfraid 2 года назад +2

      There is more to it than they show.
      There is a small paint brush that moves along the path of the barrel, and when the barrel billet is bent (!!!Alliteration!!!) the brush leaves a mark on the billet where it is bent. Each successive hammer-blow results in a slight deformation that will collectively allow the barrel billet to be declared basically completed. It won’t be perfectly straight, but it is straight-enough that drilling the bore and chamber won’t produce an uncentered hole at one end.
      Now the process is similar, but we have machines that automate the process much more quickly. And, we have processes like the Cold-forging of Barrel and Bore simultaneously that eliminates the need for boring a barrel billet and banging on it with a hammer to straighten.

  • @brentsauer
    @brentsauer 3 года назад +6

    That is a fascinating look at the process at the time. However, the work looked pretty miserable. It was neat to see the overhead power belts that were used to run machinery. I've seen photos of similar set-ups in old Colt factory photos. I'm curious what the 'slushing' process is that they showed toward the end of the video.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  3 года назад +2

      Slush is a liquid corrosion preventive compound applied hot which provides a barrier against atmospheric corrosion. It actually still exists today.

    • @dabisnit
      @dabisnit 3 года назад +8

      In that year, I'd rather be there in a hot factory than in France. But that work does looks entirely mindless and soul crushing

    • @thadrobinson8343
      @thadrobinson8343 3 года назад +4

      The slushing crew were the only blacks I noticed in the film.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  3 года назад

      @@dabisnit Yep - I'll take a hot factory over a muddy trench any day!

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  3 года назад +1

      @@thadrobinson8343 They also did the oil treating on the stocks, loading into crates, and moving crates off to be shipped.

  • @comodice905
    @comodice905 Год назад +1

    Bloke insane buckaroo

  • @elektro3000
    @elektro3000 Год назад +1

    We didn't get to see the receiver heat treat!

  • @LYMANHALL30
    @LYMANHALL30 24 дня назад

    People worked fast back then

  • @lwilton
    @lwilton 2 года назад +2

    FWIW, the realistic playback speed for various scenes varies from about 40% to 66% of the speed this video runs at. If you play it back at the 50% that RUclips allows the actions are just slightly slow in most scenes (still fast in others), but MUCH more realistic than the standard playback speed.

  • @Uguccione1409
    @Uguccione1409 2 года назад +4

    Thanks a lot for sharing. I've got a Remington M17, barrel dated September 18. It went through the lend and lease programme during WWII and handled to the Canadian Army. After that it was sold to a some sort of National Guard in Denmark and at the end, it landed tere in Italy. Now it's a beloved part of my collection.

    • @dennisp.2147
      @dennisp.2147 2 года назад +2

      The Danes actually still have it in limited service with their arctic "Sirius patrol" The metallurgy is so good that it's still the best choice for shooting polar bears.

    • @jacksonthompson7099
      @jacksonthompson7099 Год назад

      @@dennisp.2147 If I recall right the load they use is in the 180-220 grain weight range for polar bears.

  • @JasonBoyer-x3f
    @JasonBoyer-x3f 8 месяцев назад +2

    🇨🇦💂👍 Such an awesome production process perfected utilizing the much needed large labour force wherein each department specialized in one thing. 💂👍

  • @transmaster
    @transmaster 26 дней назад

    The only sort coming the M14, and M17 had was it cocked on opening not on closing as the Mouser and Springfield did. This was not good because the extraction and cocking were together and made for a rather heavy bolt throw. There is a kit that converts it to a cock on closing should you want to modify it.

  • @ricksadler797
    @ricksadler797 2 года назад

    Better than some of today’s stuff

  • @jeffyoung60
    @jeffyoung60 23 дня назад +1

    I saw a photo on Facebook last month of an entire U.S. Army division in Europe after D-Day, possibly in autumn 1944 or spring 1945. The soldiers of that division were entirely armed with bolt-action rifles, whether a mix of M1 Springfields or M17 Enfields, I cannot be certain. I had a hard time believing there was such a shortage of M1 Garands that this division had to be armed with bolt-action rifles.
    Now of course there were those infantrymen armed with BARs, guys with M1A1 Thompsons or M1A1 submachineguns, M1 Carbines, Bazooka men, artillerymen, et al. But the typical infantry squad member used a bolt-action.
    I tried to remember the division's number and name but have forgotten. I didn't read anywhere of any complaints from the G.I.s using bolt-action rifles. Never having used an M1 Garand meant these G.I.s had nothing to compare against so the bolt-action rifle was all they knew.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  22 дня назад

      The number of M1's during WWII was never enough. That's why production of the '03 (later, the simplified 03A3) was continued by other manufacturers during the war. As you said, a large number of soldiers and their units were being outfitted with bolt-actions well into the latter part of 1944.

  • @zermomia
    @zermomia 2 года назад

    They were working fast , their speed surpasses robots speed and i am sure the earlier cameras shutters has nothing to do with that.

  • @shable1436
    @shable1436 16 дней назад +1

    Wow they were fast workers😂, actually you need to slow it down around .50x to get close to where they're walking normally.

  • @jeffyoung60
    @jeffyoung60 23 дня назад +1

    Doesn't it make you shudder? None of these guys is wearing eye protection and hearing protection. Sparks, metal fragments, wood splinters, etc. are all flying around and no one thinks anything of it. Also the noise from all the metal stamping presses and spinning lathes must have been deafening. These guys went home every evening with ringing in their ears. In their old ages, you probably had to yell at them into their ear so they could understand you.

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  22 дня назад

      Well, you don't miss what you don't have. These guys probably couldn't imagine having eye and ear pro, so they didn't miss it.

  • @merlemorrison482
    @merlemorrison482 2 года назад +3

    simply amazing how quickly they turned out rifles!!!

  • @prebaned
    @prebaned 20 дней назад +1

    That barrel truing is comical at best. All subjective to the man doing it....

    • @HighCaliberHistoryLLC
      @HighCaliberHistoryLLC  20 дней назад

      Plenty of Central Powers soldiers would beg to differ.

    • @prebaned
      @prebaned 20 дней назад

      @@HighCaliberHistoryLLC 😊

  • @NoosaHeads
    @NoosaHeads 24 дня назад +1

    What about the blueing?

  • @kevspss
    @kevspss 2 года назад +5

    Love to find a crate of those.

  • @richardlahan7068
    @richardlahan7068 2 года назад +2

    More 1917 Enfields were issued to US troops than 1903 Springfields.

    • @Uguccione1409
      @Uguccione1409 2 года назад

      About the 75% of the American Expeditionary Forces in Europe during WWI was equipped with the M1917.

  • @colinghoch3975
    @colinghoch3975 4 дня назад

    Watching this from New Haven, this factory is now a site for luxury apartments!

  • @3gunshooter60
    @3gunshooter60 2 года назад +3

    I have an eddystone armory rifle that is in very good condition. It shoots like a dream. Thanks for the historical view into its manufacturing.