It's the titanium dioxide in the white paint that becomes black and when heated at the right temperatures and speeds, bonds to the tile. This will work better with non glazed tiles (available on Amazon) than it does on glazed tiles. This method seems to work best with diode lasers due to their lower power. I'm guessing because the K40 is the lowest powered CO2 laser is why it worked so good for you. I've been struggling to get good results with my higher powered CO2 laser as it seems to either burn off the paint or to only produce light grays.
Interesting, I've never tried it with non glazed tiles. As long as you can lower the Co2 laser enough, you should be able to get it to work. I've also been able to do it with my Glowforge. How high powered is your laser?
There are other processes for those. It depends on the tile. There is a Norton White Tile group on Facebook that has a really good community and resources for all the different/possible variations
It is the titanium dioxide in the white paint the laser heats the titanium dioxide driving off oxygen causing the color change from yellow to brown to a blue black , the pharmaceutical industry adds titanium dioxide to the gelatin used to make gel capsules so they can print information on the capsule such as date at the time packing using UV lasers since the UV laser will go right through the clear packaging.
hola.gran trabajo.este mrtodo es simplemente un azulejo blanco pintado de blanco? el azulejo tiene algo especial para grabarse de color negro?tengo laser k 40 y me gustaria probarlo.muchas gracias
awesome job. what is the fastest mm/sec on a K40 could this be done? what would the power be? i did the 80mm/sec 5ma got a decent dark gray. how to get black?
It is very difficult to get a good black result. A lot of it has do with the paint. On a side note, make sure that the grey your getting is a result of the laser interacting with the paint and not engraving into the actual ceramic. You'll know you have it right when the dots placed by the laser firing is raised above the surface.
@@charlesrosenbloom4140 It's a tough balance. You have to experiment with speed and power to get the right combo. In addition, I have had the best luck if I keep the DPI around 150
The best thing would be to get a test tile and slowly ramp the power up from zero until you start getting an image visible. The CO2 lasers are so powerful that they will often blast through the paint and engrave straight into the tile. As far as automotive paint, I'm not sure. I do know that the active ingredient that reacts with the laser is Titanium dioxide, so if you find that present in the paint then there is a good chance that it will work.
@@GeekBuildersNet yess actually.. the darker.. the better. i plan to make memorial tiles using this method so to save time and reduce painting costs after normal engraving. ☺
I'm using a 40w Co2 laser. Your laser might work, but the only way to find out is to try. Using the right paint, other than your power setting is probably the most important part of the process since it is the laser reacting with some specific elements in the spray paint that allow this effect to take place.
I can't provide any feedback on the Ortur since that type of laser is so different from the Co2 laser that I use. If you search "Norton white tile method" on Facebook, you will find a few communities of people who might be able to help you with your specific laser. As far as the black acrylic paint goes, most people use a lacquer based spray paints for better results. And a quick FYI, using black spray paint will not give you the result demonstrated in the video.
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Nice Video ....with upgrades TESTING ..I can now get photo realistic results on Tiles
Awesome to show your evidence of failures. It's every bit as encouraging, showing that it's all experiments, and that it takes practice.
It's important to show.. And I still have failures sometimes... It is a cool result, but definitely takes patience.
I liked that you showed the failures
Absolutely... I don't want to give a false impression of how long it takes to do some of this work. Thanks for watching
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Thanks for watching
It's the titanium dioxide in the white paint that becomes black and when heated at the right temperatures and speeds, bonds to the tile. This will work better with non glazed tiles (available on Amazon) than it does on glazed tiles.
This method seems to work best with diode lasers due to their lower power. I'm guessing because the K40 is the lowest powered CO2 laser is why it worked so good for you. I've been struggling to get good results with my higher powered CO2 laser as it seems to either burn off the paint or to only produce light grays.
Interesting, I've never tried it with non glazed tiles. As long as you can lower the Co2 laser enough, you should be able to get it to work. I've also been able to do it with my Glowforge. How high powered is your laser?
Will the Norton White tile Method also work on tiles that are not white??
There are other processes for those. It depends on the tile. There is a Norton White Tile group on Facebook that has a really good community and resources for all the different/possible variations
Mi mind is blown right now! 🤯
It is the titanium dioxide in the white paint the laser heats the titanium dioxide driving off oxygen causing the color change from yellow to brown to a blue black , the pharmaceutical industry adds titanium dioxide to the gelatin used to make gel capsules so they can print information on the capsule such as date at the time packing using UV lasers since the UV laser will go right through the clear packaging.
Good Info. I knew that Titanium Dioxide was the main substance that allows this to happen, but didn't know those other details. Thanks for watching.
hola.gran trabajo.este mrtodo es simplemente un azulejo blanco pintado de blanco? el azulejo tiene algo especial para grabarse de color negro?tengo laser k 40 y me gustaria probarlo.muchas gracias
El blanco pintado tiene un ingrediente especial se llama "titanium dioxide" Esto ingrediente que lo hace el azulejo negro.
whats the power of lazer can a 500MW capable to do it ?
Some can. You will have to test different speeds and powers to find out.
what did you do that it automatically knows that corner is the origin.
You can set an origin point in the laser software that I'm using - K40 Whisperer
awesome job. what is the fastest mm/sec on a K40 could this be done? what would the power be? i did the 80mm/sec 5ma got a decent dark gray. how to get black?
It is very difficult to get a good black result. A lot of it has do with the paint. On a side note, make sure that the grey your getting is a result of the laser interacting with the paint and not engraving into the actual ceramic. You'll know you have it right when the dots placed by the laser firing is raised above the surface.
@@GeekBuildersNet the engraving almost has a metallic look to it. i used the 2x flat white paint.
maybe i didnt put enough.
@@charlesrosenbloom4140 It's a tough balance. You have to experiment with speed and power to get the right combo. In addition, I have had the best luck if I keep the DPI around 150
You didn't mention speed or power? What do you use. Fast or low powers.
It’s all listed in the video description
How long did it take to engrave that tile?
It took about 25-30 min to engrave the Scarlett Witch tile if I remember correclty
It the paint a lacquer or enamel?
Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch 2X
12 oz. Semi-Gloss White General Purpose Spray Paint
hw, many watts of power did u use... because i wnt to adjust my 100watts accordingly. and yea does this work with automotive paints?
The best thing would be to get a test tile and slowly ramp the power up from zero until you start getting an image visible. The CO2 lasers are so powerful that they will often blast through the paint and engrave straight into the tile. As far as automotive paint, I'm not sure. I do know that the active ingredient that reacts with the laser is Titanium dioxide, so if you find that present in the paint then there is a good chance that it will work.
@@GeekBuildersNet Thanks 4 da awesome reply. ill see what i cn find
@@GeekBuildersNet so this means i dont have to get a diode laser.. i cn just stick to my co2
@@stephensharma3259 Using a diode will still give you the darkest color if the is what you want, but the process is possible with a Co2
@@GeekBuildersNet yess actually.. the darker.. the better. i plan to make memorial tiles using this method so to save time and reduce painting costs after normal engraving. ☺
Would this work with a 1600mw laser? I have the Ruoclris miniature laser. How strong is your laser? Thank you
I'm using a 40w Co2 laser. Your laser might work, but the only way to find out is to try. Using the right paint, other than your power setting is probably the most important part of the process since it is the laser reacting with some specific elements in the spray paint that allow this effect to take place.
@@GeekBuildersNet rly has just 30w
@@RadionicaExpress I've heard that it's not a true 40w laser, but I wasn't sure
A diode laser is superior to a CO2 laser in regards to the tile ingraving. Also spray paint with high levels or titanium dioxide work best.
What program u use can you send me the link olease
I don't know what program you are referring to? Program to do what?
would this be possible with a pecker pro? that's all I have. thanks
You might be able to. You would need to test to see if the laser is strong enough to react with the white paint
do you suggest any setting for the ortur lm2 20w? i tried with black acrylic paint but didnt get any result on the tile, can you help? thanks
I can't provide any feedback on the Ortur since that type of laser is so different from the Co2 laser that I use. If you search "Norton white tile method" on Facebook, you will find a few communities of people who might be able to help you with your specific laser. As far as the black acrylic paint goes, most people use a lacquer based spray paints for better results. And a quick FYI, using black spray paint will not give you the result demonstrated in the video.