Laser Images onto Tiles with the Norton White Tile Method

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  • Опубликовано: 4 май 2022
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  • @KatoriaLuke
    @KatoriaLuke Год назад +4

    I forgot to mention that your videos are clear and good and I'm watching one by one and repeating again. You are kind and unselfish in telling hobbyist like us what to do which safe much time testing and testing. I've been doing test engraving ceramic for sometime now using different methods and will try again this weekend using Rust Oleum spray paint which I bought. Thank you.

  • @nathalieborges7277
    @nathalieborges7277 2 года назад

    Merci pour tous ces explications, les résultats sont excellents, bravo.

  • @ronnorris1504
    @ronnorris1504 2 года назад +1

    Another fine project. Thanks for the video and instruction.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      Thank you. I appreciate you watching the video. I’m happy to do these videos for everyone’s enjoyment

  • @briandowns7742
    @briandowns7742 2 года назад +1

    Another excellent video and fantastic results. You even got a mention from Ritch, that would have made my day :) You are now on my favorite RUclipsrs list for Laser Diode Machines. Keep up the great work and I look forward to your future projects from the Land Down Under.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      Thank you very much. I appreciate your comments and watching and learning

  • @jamesanderson7407
    @jamesanderson7407 2 года назад +1

    Looks awesome, keep up the good work. I love watching your video’s.

  • @chrisaddlesee4664
    @chrisaddlesee4664 2 года назад +1

    Love this video, very informative and has helped me out a great deal!!! I have watched lots of your videos and all i have watched are great... I would not be able to do a lot of things if not watched and learned from you!! So a big THANK YOU from Chris in the UK.....

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      Thank you very much. I really appreciate your support and I’m so glad that my videos are helping you.

  • @cindydanley8048
    @cindydanley8048 Год назад +1

    Love this video! Thank you!

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      You are so welcome! Thank you very much for visiting my channel

  • @darrenpearson7097
    @darrenpearson7097 Год назад +1

    Just got my S10 today. Looking forward to trying this. Thanks PawPaw :)

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      Awesome! Congratulations! Hope to see your results

  • @probablecause6659
    @probablecause6659 Год назад +3

    WOW! This is AMAZING! Thank you for these videos. I would like to see more using laser engraving. I have the M1 on the way. Can't wait to do this!

  • @jimshackelford4267
    @jimshackelford4267 Год назад +2

    Well, I tried the method you showed. The results were good. Thank you for the clear and precise directions.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      You’re most welcome. I’m glad that it worked for you. That’s great to hear

  • @saj9814
    @saj9814 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much for being patient with your video.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  11 месяцев назад

      You’re very welcome. Thank you for watching

  • @rickmartinez1769
    @rickmartinez1769 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the great video!

  • @geef0813
    @geef0813 2 года назад +2

    I just did a star wars calendar on my CNC. (And a marvel). I really liked the millennium falcon tile. That’s gonna make me try the Norton tile method right there. Thanks for this video!!

  • @joeduncan7678
    @joeduncan7678 Год назад +1

    well you got me hook. Only been doing new adventure for a few months. Great video.

  • @HelicoolsHelipad
    @HelicoolsHelipad Год назад

    Great results... I have the Xtool D1 Pro 20W... if you would save me a tile and a test pattern, could you tell us what laser wattage you were using with the 60% power and 500mm per minute, please?

  • @robertmarshall9970
    @robertmarshall9970 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Paw Paw I was just about to start one. I used the primer so will see if it comes out as black .

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      Flat works well also. I currently am using gloss only because that’s what I have on hand. Thank you for watching

  • @tomw5435
    @tomw5435 Год назад +1

    Good info

  • @rega3160
    @rega3160 2 года назад +1

    Hi Paw Paw, i am going to follow your prior video on the Norton Method. I have been working on my CNC for some wedding projects. I have a project to create tiles for a twentieth anniversary. I cannot wait to get this going. Thank you so much for the two videos. I will let you know how this goes for me.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      Thank you very much. I look forward to hearing about your results

    • @daledavis4248
      @daledavis4248 2 года назад

      Yes these videos were great I would love to see a breakdown of different power writings and things of that nature is far speed for materials such as ceramic would medals that kind of thing I think would really help enhance other things to happen instead of relearning these things that people already know

  • @patriotwoodworker6092
    @patriotwoodworker6092 Год назад +1

    Good tips, thanks. I subscribed too!

  • @robertstrickland1979
    @robertstrickland1979 2 года назад

    Iam fairly new using a laser i have the xTool D1 and i am using my own photography wildlife and other photos for placing on the tiles using the methods you show in this video. i am not really understanding the photo adjustments. my photos are high resolution and i would say need little adjustment in photoshop. however what are we looking for in adjustments for laser engraving on tiles. i have run some photos but some have been to dark and others too light. so what am i looking for in the adjustment? or is it the speed and power used.
    you dont happen to have a video on adjustments to photos

  • @royk1374
    @royk1374 Год назад +1

    Great video! I've noticed a little mistake you made in the picture editor. You set the "Enhance Radius" up and saw nothing changing and then set it back at zero, after that you upped the amount and saw again nothing happening. These 2 settings work together, the amount is the amount radius.

  • @jmarcant616
    @jmarcant616 Год назад

    Neat process. Any chance of getting the files to try these?
    They look good.

  • @Kevo20
    @Kevo20 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video thank you, can you still get the same results on a diode laser?

  • @tgsparkyoriginal
    @tgsparkyoriginal Год назад +4

    Just odered my first laser and I'm going through 'A LOT' of vidoes and I've been watching your videos on the white ceramic tiles. They came out awesome. Have you tried this method on other tile colours? Maybe light colours that contrast well with black.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад +1

      You can use colored tiles with the same process

  • @Pietch65
    @Pietch65 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have the same Laser and engrave tiles with a speed of 2000 and a power of 80% (254dpi) - works much faster with phantastic results.
    To prepare, I use Titandioxid, mixed with Isopropanol in a spray bottle. For speed drying I use a heat gun - ready to engrave in 5 minutes. After engraving, clear the tile under water and enjoy 🙂 regards from Germany

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you very much for the information. I have some titanium oxide to do some tests. Just can’t get to it quite yet. I appreciate you giving me this information

    • @Pietch65
      @Pietch65 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@PawPawsWorkShop I'm excited about the result. Mixing ratio Titan/Iso 1:2

  • @Frightknight28
    @Frightknight28 Год назад

    Anyone know the best settings for an Xtool 10w to do these Norton White Tile methods? Btw, awesome video PawPaw! 👍

  • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
    @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 2 года назад +2

    *Excellent video Paw Paw!* You're becoming an expert! I like to use crosshatch and 150-200dpi to save time. But these came out great!

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, you already are an expert. Lightburn and you are one in the same. I am planning on adding a camera. It should be fun

    • @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
      @TheLouisianaHobbyGuy 2 года назад +1

      @@PawPawsWorkShop You'll never go back!

  • @albi1cnobi1
    @albi1cnobi1 Год назад +2

    I'm new to the laser engraving world(Sculpfun S10), and watching your videos has helped me immensely. I've learned so much in a short time, you always explain everything clearly and fully. I love that storm trooper image! I've found the falcon but I have searched and searched and can't find that image. If you could find it in your heart to share a link to it I would be very grateful. Again, thanks for all the videos.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      I’ll check to see if I still have the image. Welcome to laser engraving. Thanks for visiting my channel.

    • @albi1cnobi1
      @albi1cnobi1 Год назад +1

      @@PawPawsWorkShop I love the channel. Just found you and I'm already subscribed. Keep up the great content! And thanks for checking for the images.

  • @I-LOVE-EARTH
    @I-LOVE-EARTH Год назад +1

    Great job like always! If you make the image a few mm larger, it'll do a full bleed engrave eliminating the white outside border. Care to share that cool image?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      Yes, you are correct. These images can be found by doing a Google Search

  • @foxton100
    @foxton100 Год назад +1

    Nice video PawPaw will follow along the video soon on another note do you have the site for the Millennium Falcon image I have been hunting all over the place with no such luck...Cheer Merlin from NZ....

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      I used Google search to locate the images I use. Include FREE and always check for copyright information

  • @derekjenkinson8014
    @derekjenkinson8014 2 года назад +1

    Once you add a mask you can move the image around the frame, once you are then happy with the position, right click and flatten the image. It’s then locked in position.

  • @anthonysilva7884
    @anthonysilva7884 Год назад

    Great video. I can't figure out how to engrave a photo on to 3mm plywood. Im using xtool d1 10 watts
    Don't matter wht settings i use keeps carving into the wood. Can u advise

    • @marshallwilkinson3657
      @marshallwilkinson3657 Год назад

      I am having issues engraving photos on plywood coasters, just can not get any detail at all

  • @ibcwhite
    @ibcwhite 2 года назад +1

    Hey Paw Paw...great video!! I really love Star Wars!!!! Question...I see you using the Sculpfun S9 laser...is this one your new favorite? I am looking at the XTool D1 and the Sculpfun...I'm not sure about the Fox Alien...any suggestions would be great!

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      All are great lasers. The xTool D1 is outstanding however, you must learn how to effectively use the red cross hairs. It’s definitely different from other lasers. The FOXAlien with the 40 watt laser is very similar to the Sculpfun S9. I do find that the focus on the S9 is a little better

  • @laizestephane5632
    @laizestephane5632 2 года назад

    Bonsoir
    Quelle machine utilise tu ?
    Quelle puissance de laser pour pouvoir régler sur la mienne
    Merci

  • @philipershler420
    @philipershler420 Год назад +1

    I noticed in your first example, you had set up LightBurn so that laser was scanning on quite an angle, not simply straight across the tile. Was there any advantage to doing that? Thanks

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      It a visual thing only. The angle helps to trick the eye

  • @ericeinsmann5559
    @ericeinsmann5559 Год назад +1

    Paw paw, I know you said 500mm/min 60% power.. But on what wattage laser? 5w? 10w? I'm ready to try this😁

  • @KrystynaPlumb-qx5dx
    @KrystynaPlumb-qx5dx Год назад

    I am using 7w Chinese version using 100/100 and the image is great but smudges and does not penetrate the tile. Any suggestions?? I prepped the tile as you demonstrated

  • @karatohongkongcat
    @karatohongkongcat Год назад +1

    Beautiful! Going to try with my M1

  • @bradlovely6936
    @bradlovely6936 2 года назад +1

    Sheer excellence as per usual, Pa'! Wondering... do you think we could accomplish the same results on the Laserpecker 2?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад +1

      Not sure but it does sound like an interesting experiment

    • @bradlovely6936
      @bradlovely6936 2 года назад +1

      Surprise (impress) us! 🤞💪

  • @rickycox3913
    @rickycox3913 2 года назад +1

    Great job can you do a family photo on tile? Would love to see what all you have to do

  • @5150Timex
    @5150Timex 2 года назад

    What’s the height of the laser off the title?

  • @jm1964jmir
    @jm1964jmir Год назад +1

    Buenos días Paw desde España, aunque soy nuevo en esto, sigo tus videos y me gustaria aprender este metodo.
    veo que primero limpias el azulejo con acetona y despues pintas con pintura blanca los azulejos?
    me podrias confirmar si es pintura blanca acrilica brillante? o que tipo de pintura es.
    gracias y un abrazo desde España

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      The paint must have titanium oxide in it to work. In the US, Rustoleum white or Smokey beige works well. Many of the litter colors have titanium oxide in them. So, the color is not the most important element.

  • @michaela4141
    @michaela4141 Год назад +1

    Hi Paw Paw, I am going to pickup some tiles and try this. Would this same method work on corian? I have a bunch of that lying around.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад +1

      No corian is a different material. You can carve it

  • @dirttraxbiking
    @dirttraxbiking 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video but im new to laser engraving and are not sure about my power settings. How powerful is your laser and is speed and power scalable to other lasers?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  11 месяцев назад

      All lasers are different and you must do test grid with your laser to get the correct settings

  • @tatertot7883
    @tatertot7883 Год назад +1

    Love watching your videos. I notice your engraving look black, I keep getting a grayish color. Any ideas on what might be the issue?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      It could be the paint that you are using. Also, try slowing the feed rate.

  • @MrVity01
    @MrVity01 Год назад +1

    Do you enable "constant power mode" in Lightburn for this?

  • @11290slk
    @11290slk 2 года назад +1

    Which sculpfun laser (laser power) were you using? Could you provide a specific link to it?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      This is the S9. The link is in the description

    • @11290slk
      @11290slk 2 года назад

      @@PawPawsWorkShop Thanks. I hadn't gone down to the Amazon links.

  • @TayDavis7276
    @TayDavis7276 Год назад +1

    Has anyone done this on an xtool D1 pro 20watt? I can’t seem to get the settings right.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      Run a test grid to get the best settings. Yes, you can definitely do this on a the xTool D1 pro

  • @mikegager
    @mikegager 2 года назад +1

    is a 2.8w laser powerful enough to doo this or do i need a 5.5w laser?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      It may work just go slow and you will need to be near full power

  • @mambaman2007
    @mambaman2007 2 года назад +1

    I'm unable to find Rust Oleum paint here so I was wondering would the spray paint by ABRO Industries, Inc. work?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад +1

      Check with the manufacturer and find a paint with titanium oxide as an ingredient.

    • @mambaman2007
      @mambaman2007 2 года назад

      @@PawPawsWorkShop Will do. Thanks a lot

  • @MrPhantom302
    @MrPhantom302 Год назад +1

    Hi great video and thanks for sharing. Do have a ? Can i buy this design from you . Really like it it's too kooool . Thanks

  • @centralseac
    @centralseac 2 года назад +1

    Does it have to be Rust-oleum paint? So very expensive here.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад +1

      No, you need a paint with titanium or titanium oxide

  • @mikefondren2385
    @mikefondren2385 2 года назад +1

    Do the tiles you choose to engrave have to be glazed, or will plain unglazed tiles work?

  • @jtaylor330
    @jtaylor330 Год назад +1

    Im having trouble getting a Darker finish. Only thing ive noticed Is I only do a light Vertical coating of paint not a Vertical and Horizontal..? Could this be it? I will prep some tiles and try again tomorrow.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад +1

      The titanium oxide is what the laser is reacting to when it burns.

    • @jtaylor330
      @jtaylor330 Год назад +1

      @@PawPawsWorkShop The coating was my issue, just finished several tiles following you %100 this time and the coating was where I failed. These are perfect now. Thank you PawPaw

  • @brandonnelson5653
    @brandonnelson5653 7 месяцев назад +1

    What watt do you have? I have a 10W and it didn’t come out like yours 😢

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  7 месяцев назад

      I have the 20 watt and also a 40 watt laser

  • @cak_pcpp
    @cak_pcpp 2 года назад +1

    Looks great. I noticed you didn't flatten the image. Why didn't you flatten the image?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      I try in my videos to keep it simple as I possible can. Thanks for watching

  • @deansiebert6237
    @deansiebert6237 2 года назад +1

    What settings did you use paw paw?

  • @halwalker346
    @halwalker346 Год назад +1

    Do the images need to be a particular format such as png or jpg

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      The images need to be changed to svg to carve or burn

  • @mordey_
    @mordey_ 2 года назад +1

    Whats the benefit of using the 20degree scan angle?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад +1

      It’s a visual thing. It actually tricks the eye into not seeing the lines as easily.

    • @mordey_
      @mordey_ 2 года назад +1

      @@PawPawsWorkShop thanks for the reply, and I can see how that would work. Will try sometime!

  • @ExceptionalCarpetCare
    @ExceptionalCarpetCare 11 месяцев назад

    I'm trying to figure out why this method didn't work for me? I used exactly the same stuff. White ceramic tile, acetone and the same rustoleum paint. My laser is a co2 glowforge pro.

  • @mr.p9882
    @mr.p9882 Год назад +1

    I am wondering why the text at the top of the last tile did not burn very well?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад +1

      The reason was my fault. The paint was thin and the text was very small and thin

  • @smartassdroner739
    @smartassdroner739 Год назад +2

    Why no air assist?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад +1

      I know that a lot of people do not have air assist. They need to see how it works as well

  • @mr.p9882
    @mr.p9882 Год назад

    Trying to set up a .jpeg picture on a 6x6 tile...when I try to do the MASK, it is grayed out, even though I have the pic selected. Any ideas? I am using my D1Pro 40 watt, and I am VERY new at this. Trying to put an image of my Mom in law on the tile for her daughters...

    • @mr.p9882
      @mr.p9882 Год назад

      I finally got it figured out!! Duh, way too easy. Thanks for all you do...

  • @BlueWatermelon1000
    @BlueWatermelon1000 Год назад +1

    Tried it on a glowforge . Doesn't really work ? do you know why ? Thank you

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      You will need to adjust the settings

    • @practicemakesperfection8459
      @practicemakesperfection8459 Год назад

      Glow forge is a co2 with a 2 inch focal length. He's using a diode. It has a small dot size that's why it took him 3 hours. A co2 could do it in no time but the resolution is gonna look bad unless you have your dpi perfect. 318 is what will probably give you the best result.

  • @robertarmstrong2323
    @robertarmstrong2323 Год назад +1

    My first attempt failed..I edited the image in imagr and imported in lightburn with passthrough but the image came out grainy to like yours. What did I do wrong?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      I would look at the dpi to start with. Also what style are you using? Newspaper will be very graining. Ditter is commonly used

    • @robertarmstrong2323
      @robertarmstrong2323 Год назад +1

      @@PawPawsWorkShop I think it was a imagr error..on my phone it automatically defaults to old not Norton so when I clicked on white tile it wasn't right. It says in the description gives a cartoony type pic..I'll test my theory tomorrow. Thanks for the help. I still can't figure out why my color test tiles are all coming out grey though. One thing at a time

  • @daledavis4248
    @daledavis4248 2 года назад +1

    Cant get my laser to engrave my tile what am I missing?

  • @ohske
    @ohske 2 года назад +1

    😀👍👍👍👌

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching. I appreciate it so much

  • @SCAMATICS777
    @SCAMATICS777 11 месяцев назад +1

    cant you just resize the image to 4.25 x 4.25 so you can have the whole image?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  11 месяцев назад

      Yes, you certainly could do that if you wish

  • @herbertjordan8390
    @herbertjordan8390 Год назад +1

    What would be the Laser box settings?

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      I don’t use Laser box. You will need to do some basic testing

  • @usmcculp
    @usmcculp 11 месяцев назад +1

    I thought you were supposed to spray tile black and then laser of the paint? You didn't want

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  11 месяцев назад

      No, you need the titanium oxide that is in the white paint for this technique to work

  • @myronbenware4452
    @myronbenware4452 9 месяцев назад +1

    3 hr. engraving time. THERE IS NOT ANY PROFIT IN THAT.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  9 месяцев назад +1

      The only way to profit is in volume and you must be working on other projects while engraving. You must maximize your time.

  • @kurtlazarus5975
    @kurtlazarus5975 Год назад +1

    Use titanium oxide it's a lot better and less mess just wash it under the tap. Use IPA 50/50 mix U won't look back

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      I just got some. Have not done video yet

    • @kurtlazarus5975
      @kurtlazarus5975 Год назад +2

      It's really good 50/50 mix with IPA don't worry about spraying it on a bit heavy it will work. Just be careful because the titanium oxide comes off easy.

  • @nickynorton
    @nickynorton Год назад

    NAME TYPE COLOR TiO2 %
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch Chalky Linen White 2.5-10%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Flat White Primer 2.5-10%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Flat Gray Primer 2.5-10%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Flat White 10-25%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Gloss White 10-25%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Satin Ivory Silk 10-25%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Matte White 2.5-10%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Flat Grey 2.5-10 %
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Satin Heirloom White 10-25%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Satin Smokey Beige 10-25%
    Rustoleum Enamel Flat White 10-25%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Satin Putty 2.5-10%
    Rustoleum Accent 2x Flat White 10-25%
    Rustoleum Accent 2x Matte White 2.5-10%
    Rustoleum Accent 2x Satin Smokey Beige 10-25%
    Rustoleum Accent 2x Satin Ivory Silk 10-25%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Satin Blossom White 10-25%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch 2x Satin Ivory 10-25%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch Primer Flat White 2.5-10%
    Rustoleum Automotive Touch up Flat Arctic White 2.5-10%
    Rustoleum Painter's Touch Satin Ivory 10-25%
    Zinsser Bullseye 123 Turbo Flat White 9.70%
    Zinsser Bullseye 123 Primer Flat White 10-25%

  • @CDCLLC2023
    @CDCLLC2023 Год назад +1

    Careful selling copyright materials.

    • @PawPawsWorkShop
      @PawPawsWorkShop  Год назад

      Thank you for sharing. Always be aware of the copyright materials. These are for demonstrations only. These are not for sale.

  • @KrystynaPlumb-qx5dx
    @KrystynaPlumb-qx5dx Год назад

    I am using 7w Chinese version using 100/100 and the image is great but smudges and does not penetrate the tile. Any suggestions?? I prepped the tile as you demonstrated