Thanks for the info. I recently got taken on a key, bought a "Ford Factory" key off ebay that was a 40 bit. It was listed as compatible with my car (2012 Ford Fusion). There is the older 40bit and the newer 80bit keys. An 80 bit key can be used on a 40bit system but a 40bit will not work on an 80bit. 80 bit will have an A as the second letter such as SA or HA. 40 bit will just have the S or H. Hope this helps somebody.
m ph...Yea,,, I'm sorry to hear that. I see your comment is 2 years ago. Hope you got everything straightened out by now. I too just bought 2 new keys for my Ford, but I bought mine through Amazon. They needed to be cut and programmed. I got them both cut and tested, they both work, they open the doors ok. Stick them in the ignition, it cranks but no start. I only have 1 original key that works. Looks like I have to go to a Ford dealership to get them programmed. I know Ford dealership is going to kick my butt. I've been told, car dealerships are very expensive.
I really love your videos your videos taught me a lot more about Ford's I'm a General Motors man but I like Ford's to I don't have no college degree no bachelor's degree in mechanics but how I learned by my father tear down engines rebuilding Etc keep up the good work and help people out I repair cars for people that can't afford it I'm pretty much a good cheap mechanic
Dude! Your dogs are awesome! At first I thought the one was a statue of the RCA dog Victor. The other one is just amazed at every word you're saying. So much so he cannot take his eyes off you. I had to rewatch the video since I missed a lot of what you said due to the dogs. Love it!
What well-behaved boxers! Some time back we had one in a Mail Boxes Etc. whom helped us get through the days work too LOL! Thank you for explaining the dealership programming software with pictures; it's very akin to administrating passwords to groups of users on computers.
Bought a $1400 2024 LAUNCH IMMO Elite Pro and tried twice to programm 2 new keyes as I only have one on my 2004 F150 4.6 XLT Super Crew and failed both times... Will try again after watching this video... Thanks..
Excellent and easy to understand info in this video that is much less complicated than all of the previous information I was able to find regarding Ford key programming. Our used 2013 Focus came with only a single basic non-remote key since it was a repo vehicle purchased at auction by our local non-Ford dealership. Our local small town Ford dealership has no ability to cut a key for us and we have no locksmiths in town to laser cut them either, but we were quoted a price of $250 each to order and program each key, and that's after we get it cut somewhere else. $500+ for two remote keys is pretty pricey stuff. Looks like we may end up seeking out a full-service locksmith when we can get to the "big city".
Scott Lockhart Follow-up question... Are ALL of the doors supposed to lock/unlock simultaneously using the single non-remoted key in the door lock of our 2013 Focus? This key will LOCK them all together, but will only intermittently, and without any pattern we can decipher, UN-lock them all together.
I work in Product Development and it is awesome to see videos like this. I dont get to see stuff that the techs do - like missing keys - I had an 08 Explorer that I lost a key right after I bought the truck (non-IKH) and one of my engineer colleagues programmed a replacement - he said there was some long ridiculous code you had to enter and very few people know what it is... Regardless, I am trying to add a key to my 07 Fusion and did what you showed in the video. Simple, quick - other than the 10 minute wait, and easy. Its funny what they dont tell us and we build the damn things...
I am very interested in learning what i would need and the how to program modules . I was looking for this for quite some time a thru ford dealer tech please keep up the great videos . Good luck to you in your future endeavors and god bless .
Thanks again for posting!! I have had a locksmith program a key when I only had one in the past...but now that I know dealerships can erase past keys, its worth getting an oem key and taking it there for my recently purchased 14 Mustang GT. Honestly the dealer I go to is cheaper than an auto locksmith by about 10 bucks.
Joseph Bentley locksmiths can delete the old keys as well. One thing he didn’t mention is that when you do that procedure you WILL need a total of TWO keys to program back in. I’m a fifth generation locksmith and we provide this service daily.
Brian, I also have an IDS factory scanning tool. I am a locksmith and a mechanic. I also have a locksmith tool that can bypass the 10 minute wait. Just as a suggestion if people would go to their local locksmith we are very friendly and can provide OEM Ford keys. Hopefully on your tour this summer you will get to stop by and maybe see me. You are only a few hours from where I live and I would enjoy talking to you. I think you're highly educated and I think you put out some fantastic videos. So continue to put them out and I'll be looking for each and everyone. By the way I am in Indiana and I am on Google +
Hello Brian, what is the procedure if you have lost all keys? Can you still use the ids? I have a jbox2 and it wont allow me to program unless i have another key. tips?
Wow.. Not sure if you remember, but i had discussed an issue i had with a 300 mile transit connect having a no crank / no start issue.. turns out a locksmith had programmed a new key for it just before i got it, and i definitely believe that is what has caused the issue. Once it comes back from the dealer, i will know for sure. I just thought it was interesting you specifically mentioned the transit connect being very picky with key programming.
Very informative! I'm surprised you convinced the "shop managers" to stay still on top of that cart...lol. I notice you use your escape as an example vehicle to demonstrate a lot of things. I'd like to see a video of changing a serpentine belt on a 2.5. Looks kinda like a pain in the butt but something I'd like to do to our 2011 at some point. It only has about 55k miles but we are gonna keep it for awhile and I like to keep up on maintenance.
klc317 I can do a video on that yes mine was changed recently but a simple removal and install video would be great content idea! Look for it in the near future.
That would be cool! Wasn't sure if motor mount had to be taken loose. Haven't really looked that close yet. Want to check the idler pulley as Ive heard they can get noisy due to plastic hub construction. Thanks again!
Have you ever thought about doing a video on what it takes to aquire, own, and use an IDS scan tool without working at the dealer. I know they can be bought but have no clue about any subscriptions that would have to be kept up or anything. I'd like to get into some Powerstroke repair stuff on the side and the IDS is definitely the best. What about the credentials required to download the files to program P's and other modules on Ford vehicles?
I am surprised Ford still makes the dealer wait out the 10 minutes. It is a rudimentary security measure originally developed in the 1980s when the first Fords were set up with transponders. This made it hard for a thief to add a key to a vehicle QUICKLY. Ford dealers GENERALLY can only look up a vin for most recent 10 years. Unless the dealer is also a NASTF member ( usually that is just locksmiths ), then the history goes back to about 1998. As a locksmith, I do not usually need to run vin numbers for a key code. But that is one of the benefits a locksmith will have. It is a narrow specialty that to go all-in, takes an investment and training most dealerships will not involve themselves in. But I do not profess to repair cars. I service the immo system and the related mechanical components only. My job ends when the theft light goes out.
nowadays even walmart can make transponder key copies for $65 cheaper than even autozone for $100 and for sure cheaper than any dealer and they work just as good... I bought a 1999 f250 with one key so now I got my second one but keep a non chipped in a magnetic box under the truck in case I get locked out but still wont start the car, maybe later I will get another chipped and keep that under the truck instead . Hope this helps others.
That's awesome that they can delete the previous keys! I just bought a 14 Fusion, and only got one key to her. Of course, it's not an administer key, and has the myKey enabled. :(
A friend of mine has programed quite a few keys for ford f150s of diff yrs with a simple scanner that was like 100 bucks which he bought as a regular code scanner
Have you tried FORScan yet? I dubbed it "Poor Man's IDS", the latest beta has introduced PATS programming ability for a lot of the popular US Ford products up to 2010.
Thank you!!! I just programmed a key on a 09 Focus using FORScan, I'm still learning how to use it and its capabilities. Do you have a take on this software?
Thank you sir for the video. do you happen to also do the smart key as well. I would love to see how that is done. I have a 2011 mkx push button ignition.....
At Audi we have similar programming using the scan tool minus the wait however if a customer needs another key programmed, we need allll known keys even ones left at home to do it so it relearns all the keys. If you just bring me one and want one from parts programmed, guess what keys at home wont work anymore. Also if they are already programmed to another vehicle, they cant be programmed to another so no used keys. It comes in handy though if someone stole the car with the key and still has the key after its recovered, come to us to reprogram a new key, that stolen key will no longer work on any vehicle.
Hi Brian. Would you tell us more about the Transit Connect? I just bought a 2016 with one key and am going to get a second key from the dealer. I will check all functions before I leave, but would like more information on keys. Thanks
So if my 2014 fusion had 2 fobs but I lost one but bought a new replacement fob do I need to go to the dealership to get this new 3rd fob programmed or can I do it myself since its technically a 3rd fob? What ius a rough cost they charge to program keys I am guessing not covered under the extended platinum warranty plan?
Please help! I changed ignition lock and key and small chip that is under the lock and it has a ring around the lock... That everything is from the one another car, now i have THEFT light. What I must do? Please help!
I have a 2016 f150 lariat that has developed a strange problem. It will randomly lock itself, anytime, day or night, key fob will be sitting on counter or hanging on wall, horn will honk, lights will flash just like you were locking it with fob. I put new batteries in both fobs, didn't help. I took out the batteries in the suspected fob and so far, to my knowledge, it has not happened. So now at a point of buying new fob. Has anyone ever heard of this? BTW, love your channel.
Thanks for the awesome videos. Question for you. On the 2015 Ford Fiesta ST, is it possible to have a dealer change the number of blinks from 3 to 4 for the turn signals in lane changing mode?
Subscribed! I am trying to program the two keys, erase all and cycle key1 cycle key2 cycle key1 etc. I do this but as soon as I put in my second key the anti theft light flashes when I go to cycle key2. Finish and neither are programmed. Ilco keys I'm so close going through the same Menus you had.
Shame they done the keys that way , Not all dealers want to do keys for you and only a few scan tools can program them . Some locksmiths near here do them also.
What is the deal with the new requirement of being a licensed locksmith to access PATS on new fords. I have a VCM 2 and IDS as a DIY’er and I can’t even program keys on my own car because I don’t “own a business with million dollar insurance,” how does you shop deal with this? Are you guys on the licensed locksmith list or can you just not do new keys? This just seems like the most anti consumer thing possible because even though I have the means I have to pay some locksmith 100 bucks to do something that I am perfectly capable of doing myself. This is on a 2018 Ford Edge btw
Hi @ FordTechMakuloco, thanks for your video very helpful. There is my situation I did burnt out my pcm and a new one is required. So I am wondering if I buy a used one do I need to erase other key and add mine or Do i just need to add only mine and ready to go for my ford escape 2015.
Hi love the techy stuff. I would love to know if it is possible to use a 15'+ switchblade fob can be programmed to a 13' Edge Sport? I need to get replacements and love the look! TIA!
Is there a way to get the software or whatever is needed for that, and do it yourself??? That would be a really nice thing if a guy could actually do the key replacement themselves and not have to use something like forscan, which I have heard of some people doing
Hello FordTechMakuloco. I am having two issues with my 2008 Ford F250 Lariat. One of the issues is in a video that I have uploaded. The two issues I am having is the traction control switch comes off and the system doesn't work but I replaced the abs module and the switch. Also the key less entry fob does not work with the truck. It does not unlock or lock any of the doors. I have tried all of the reprogramming things and nothing has worked. None of the fobs work and the Ford dealer can't figure it out too. Same with the traction control issue.
Great video. I have a question. Is there anyway that the PATS wont work but the unlock/lock, etc still work? I have traced everything on a 2014 Mustang V6 and cant figure out why it wont start. No relay click on the starter relay. Thanks for any help.
I have 1 original key I have ace hardware cut my duplicate you can open door but not start, inside the key hole on steering coloum there's a round plastic thing I think that's the security lock of the key just tape your original key in there then use your duplicate key to start the engine no more programming needed
I have a 98 mustang and I'm the original owner but I have a few questions. How much will I be looking to spend since I lost one set of keys and the current key I have now I almost broken? I want the key fobs as well so give me a range of what I should expect?
I have a 2016 Focus that I bought wrecked from Copart with no key at all. I got a parts car (2015 MY) with keys. I removed the complete lock cylinder/Transceiver assembly from both cars, swapped the electronic components from the 2016 to the 2015, and installed the 2015 into the car. Now I have the car's original electronics, and a good cylinder/key assembly. So I can turn the key to "on" and everything powers up like it should. It doesn't start, though (which is no surprise). The only thing wrong is that the car won't actually start, and I have a "no key detected" message on the dash. Can I take the car to the dealer and have them program the 2015 keys to my car?
huh, what's that "unlimited key mode" is that essentially "disable pats", I thought of doing that on my 99 150.... on another topic, do you have any suggestions on how to do body/cab mounts on a 05 f350 using a floor jack and a set of jack stands in the street in front of my house? peeticular order, tips/tricks, etc?? thanks for your time.
What if you've lost your original and have NO keys. Ford dealer told me to put the Windstar on a flatbed, bring it to them. Theyll install the new ignition and program the keys. We live in a small rural community and no locksmith within an hour either. Can't I install the new ignition myself and progeam the keys?? Any help would be tremendously appreciated.
I just purchased a 12 explorer & it only came with 1 mykey and has all the safety features on. Local Ford dealer says i need 2 new keys at 135 apiece & 130 in labor to program so that i can turn mykey off....... wish i had known that before i bought it
Question , I have an integrated key with 4 buttons for my Lincoln. I also have a factory remote starter that works with an additional appendage remote. I want to know is there a way to program my integrated key to remote start my car possibly by pressing a combination of buttons or pressing one button multiple times?
Thanks for all your awesome videos sir! Also how could I get my hands on one for those ford scan tools like you have there? Is it just a program on the computer or is it a completely different unit? Thanks again from sunny southwest Florida!
what can i do,i have a ford escape 2005 4cyl i saw a video in yutube that if you only have one key,you can make a cheap spear key and put the original one near the ignition and start it with the spear key and i tried it it work,i started it about four times with the spear key, then after that it didnt want to start with the spear key, then i put the original key and did not start niether i tried many times and the originall key is not starting the car, what advice can you give me
Brian, Have you taught them to go fetch your tools yet? I have 3 Terriers and they all love to grab my hammers and run around with them. And sometimes they DO bring them back to me.
@@FordTechMakuloco my black lab mix will pick up and bring me tools I drop (or keys, a bucket, etc) SO handy for things that roll just out of reach- u know, dead center under the vehicle as far as possible from anywhere. VERY useful! She will pick up and bring anything I point at, or if it is something I gave her the name of once, from then on she will also go find it (keys). She also picks up and puts away her toys in a bucket at night before coming in- I may see if she will put away tools, too, lol.
@FordTechMakuloco I was wondering if you know of any way to increase the range of the keyless entry on my 2006 f150. It’s a lariat supercrew, idk if that matters. Thanks in advance, and also thanks for all the lifesaving videos on the 5.4 triton!
Jsut another way for Auto Makers to Create More Business ( Profits) for its Dealers..Samefor creating More Items to come with the car that used to be Optional..just to raise its prices and Profits!
How can I program new keys when the ignition cylinder has been replaced due to attempted theft, I have replaced the batteries on 2000 Ford excursion Disel too, thank you!!
What is the best ONLINE resource for OEM keys? I have the same FOB/REMOTE (Full Featured) start key you are showing in your video for my 2015 F250 King Ranch and for some reason the REMOTE START function one of my two remotes doesn't work on one Key/Fob, when I try to start it, I get flashing lights and one horn honk. Is it a programming thing or something else? My remote #2 that came with the truck works fine, truck starts fine, etc.
This worked great on my Ford. But on my Lincoln, it has an intelligent access key. Instead of a 10 minute PATS timeout, it is asking me to be online and to login as a dealer or with a NASTF locksmith ID. Any way around this?
The key is not the issue it is the vehicle starting in 2015 select vehicles you must be online with Ford to authenticate and it is only expanding to other models as time goes on there is no way around it.
Locksmiths that are up to date can handle this as well as many other newer systems. It is done autonimously, not via a JXXX cable, subscription or factory interface.
It depends, it could be the key was not left in long enough during programming so the key code was recorded but the fob part was not programmed or you have exceeded the amount of fobs that can be programmed. Most vehicle have a max of 4 fobs and 8 keys in memory. Or you have an 08 escape and have used a newer key that the cluster does not recognize and the cluster needs to be updated or it could be cheap aftermarket keys.
I only have 1 key for a 10 f150 which is programmed as a “mykey” if I get a new key made at a locksmith will that be enough to reset the mykey option? Or will the new key be a master key with no speed or volume limits?
I recently had my 2002 Ford Mustang broken in to, and they completely destroyed the steering column. I swapped out columns and bought a new cylinder and key, so I was wondering if there is a manual way to program a key to I can drive my car? If there is no other way, then I will have to get my Mustang towed to the dealer :(
Why does programing a new key require 2 Keys? I have an older ford Expedition 97 Eddie Bauer. I only recieved 1 key when I purchased the used truck 4 years ago. I am not sure why this worked for me, but I bought 2 blank keys for cheap off Amazon with chips in them. I made copies of the blanks with my original 1 Key, I did the whole insert key turn On to On position then off then On like other videos I have seen. I used my 1 key turned On ignition to on position waited 3 sec turned Off pulled out the the 1 key I have then put same key back in ignition turned ignition to On position waited 3 second then turned off pulled out key then put in the brand new key with chip turned it to On position and theft light went out turned off. Then started the truck let it run for 5 min drove to the store and back and it works every time. Why did this work? everyone is saying you need 2 keys to do this but I did it with only 1 key. If you think something is wrong with my PATS the answer is No I have another key with a chip in it I have not programed yet if I try and start the truck with that key the theft light stays On and the truck starts then it dies after 30 seconds so the security is working like it is supposed 2. Any Thoughts is it older year maybe?
I wondered the same thing.... I bought a 2001 Escape and it only came with 1 fob and 1 PATS key. I was thinking of buying the cheap blanks from Amazon and having them cut but wasn't sure if it would work or not.
Hey buddy I have 12 ford flex I have new PCM install pre-program from repair shop , and told me I have to have key program to start a car. Do you think I can do on Maxisys & J2534 Reprogramming without call locksmith. thank you
Hello i replaced the lock cylinder on a 2001 mazda b3000 and selected the delete stored keys and program new ones. Followed the scan tool instructions but cannot get it to work. Am i missing something or how can i tell if the new keys are the problem
Hello Mine is Ford Fusion 2012 se While programming two new key fobs, something went wrong probably I pressed other keys than the lock key. Anyway, now the original key works fine. but the problem is : the light that indicates pairing mode is flashing every 2.5 seconds, if the original key is entered it stops flashing and can be turned on. BUT if the misprogrammed key is entered its flashing pace increases to ~ 3 times every second. The newly misprogrammed keys can lock/unlock doors but they will not open the trunk or turn the car on. I try the following but neither worked 1- Discount the battery overnight 2- switching the original key on/off and Entering programming mode and let the car exit pairing mode by itself. Please help, is there a way that let me exit the programming mode and/or reprogram the new misprogrammed keys?
I bought a 2012 expedition. I have one 4 button key and one plain key w/ a chip but no buttons. Can I buy a key online and program it myself since I have 2 keys with chips?
I have a 2008 Lincoln mkx and my remote starter is not working, what is happening is when I press the start button the ignition comes on and the horn starts honking
Hey I gotten a 98 mustang and I had to change out the ignition cause had misplaced the original key but now I've found it... so I was wondering how could go by getting my car to crank?
Hi, I'm trying to program an additional key for my 2004 Explorer. I have 2 working keys, everything goes well until I put the third key in, the anti theft light doesn't go off but starts to flash quickly. what am I doing wrong?
Great video thanks for posting!! Quick question.. I have a 2014 Ford Explorer and have only 1 keyfob that performs proximity access and allows for push button start. As i read in the manual it requires 2 keys to complete the programming but I really dont want to pay Ford $150 to program it. Will this procedure allow me to program the keyfob type M3N5WY8609 P/N: 164-R8092 if I use the latest version of the IDS software v111.03 and have an ODB link? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers sir.
I have a 2000 f150 5.4. It has the stand alone key fob, the issue is that the tabs on the fob keep breaking off. They are not that cheap form the dealer. I can get them after market, but they break easer that the dealer ones. Is it possible to get a all in one key like the one you just showed for the 2000 ford trucks? Any advise? Thanks Robert
Robert Russell As far as I know those IKT's are not compatible with your vehicle. The ford ones cant be more than $25 and you can program the remote yourself too.
Hi sir. I replaced the transceiver ring in column of 00 explorer after running a screw into it. Changed transceiver but cant program any keys, does transceiver need programming to car or am i doing something wrong? I have forscan tool. What are the poceedures using forscan? Plz help, Thx!
And ten seconds to steal. Seriously though just another gimmick u gotta pay for nothin any security system can fight .. A flat rollback and dollies.. And four minutes... Im from longbeach.. I seen it done..
Hey brother I just had a set of keys programmed and cut for a 2013 ford fusion. well 1 week and 500$ later my keys stopped working...they'll start the car but the buttons don't pop the trunk unlock or lock the car either...what would you think that would be? Called the dealer and they said something else broke claiming it's probably the transceiver now and want 130$ just to diag. any advice or should i argue with them to reprogram the buttons?
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Love the White & brown pup not taking his eyes off you...thinking...time for lunch before keys??? Video helpfull also!
Thanks for the info. I recently got taken on a key, bought a "Ford Factory" key off ebay that was a 40 bit. It was listed as compatible with my car (2012 Ford Fusion). There is the older 40bit and the newer 80bit keys. An 80 bit key can be used on a 40bit system but a 40bit will not work on an 80bit.
80 bit will have an A as the second letter such as SA or HA. 40 bit will just have the S or H.
Hope this helps somebody.
m ph thanks for the advice.
m ph...Yea,,, I'm sorry to hear that. I see your comment is 2 years ago. Hope you got everything straightened out by now.
I too just bought 2 new keys for my Ford, but I bought mine through Amazon. They needed to be cut and programmed. I got them both cut and tested, they both work, they open the doors ok. Stick them in the ignition, it cranks but no start. I only have 1 original key that works. Looks like I have to go to a Ford dealership to get them programmed. I know Ford dealership is going to kick my butt. I've been told, car dealerships are very expensive.
I really love your videos your videos taught me a lot more about Ford's I'm a General Motors man but I like Ford's to I don't have no college degree no bachelor's degree in mechanics but how I learned by my father tear down engines rebuilding Etc keep up the good work and help people out I repair cars for people that can't afford it I'm pretty much a good cheap mechanic
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The dog staring at you had my attention for a while before i even starting listening to you talk. LOL
Forscan software works for key programming as well!
Dude! Your dogs are awesome! At first I thought the one was a statue of the RCA dog Victor. The other one is just amazed at every word you're saying. So much so he cannot take his eyes off you. I had to rewatch the video since I missed a lot of what you said due to the dogs. Love it!
Boy, you're right! Thumbs up based on how his dog worships him.
I have a white boxer looks just like yours
Couldn't stop looking at the dogs, couldn't hear what was being said. :)
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What well-behaved boxers! Some time back we had one in a Mail Boxes Etc. whom helped us get through the days work too LOL! Thank you for explaining the dealership programming software with pictures; it's very akin to administrating passwords to groups of users on computers.
Bought a $1400 2024 LAUNCH IMMO Elite Pro and tried twice to programm 2 new keyes as I only have one on my 2004 F150 4.6 XLT Super Crew and failed both times... Will try again after watching this video... Thanks..
Excellent and easy to understand info in this video that is much less complicated than all of the previous information I was able to find regarding Ford key programming. Our used 2013 Focus came with only a single basic non-remote key since it was a repo vehicle purchased at auction by our local non-Ford dealership. Our local small town Ford dealership has no ability to cut a key for us and we have no locksmiths in town to laser cut them either, but we were quoted a price of $250 each to order and program each key, and that's after we get it cut somewhere else. $500+ for two remote keys is pretty pricey stuff. Looks like we may end up seeking out a full-service locksmith when we can get to the "big city".
Scott Lockhart Follow-up question... Are ALL of the doors supposed to lock/unlock simultaneously using the single non-remoted key in the door lock of our 2013 Focus? This key will LOCK them all together, but will only intermittently, and without any pattern we can decipher, UN-lock them all together.
I work in Product Development and it is awesome to see videos like this. I dont get to see stuff that the techs do - like missing keys - I had an 08 Explorer that I lost a key right after I bought the truck (non-IKH) and one of my engineer colleagues programmed a replacement - he said there was some long ridiculous code you had to enter and very few people know what it is... Regardless, I am trying to add a key to my 07 Fusion and did what you showed in the video. Simple, quick - other than the 10 minute wait, and easy. Its funny what they dont tell us and we build the damn things...
I am very interested in learning what i would need and the how to program modules . I was looking for this for quite some time a thru ford dealer tech please keep up the great videos . Good luck to you in your future endeavors and god bless .
Thanks again for posting!! I have had a locksmith program a key when I only had one in the past...but now that I know dealerships can erase past keys, its worth getting an oem key and taking it there for my recently purchased 14 Mustang GT. Honestly the dealer I go to is cheaper than an auto locksmith by about 10 bucks.
Joseph Bentley locksmiths can delete the old keys as well. One thing he didn’t mention is that when you do that procedure you WILL need a total of TWO keys to program back in. I’m a fifth generation locksmith and we provide this service daily.
FYI. J-Box w/ Ford Subscription will Program Ford Keys. Autel Maxidos & Matco Maximus will also program most ford Keys
Thank you now that will be 10000 dollars
Brian,
I also have an IDS factory scanning tool. I am a locksmith and a mechanic. I also have a locksmith tool that can bypass the 10 minute wait. Just as a suggestion if people would go to their local locksmith we are very friendly and can provide OEM Ford keys. Hopefully on your tour this summer you will get to stop by and maybe see me. You are only a few hours from where I live and I would enjoy talking to you. I think you're highly educated and I think you put out some fantastic videos. So continue to put them out and I'll be looking for each and everyone. By the way I am in Indiana and I am on Google +
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Hello Brian, what is the procedure if you have lost all keys? Can you still use the ids? I have a jbox2 and it wont allow me to program unless i have another key. tips?
Giancarlo Oddone you need two keys and a locksmith or ids....im doing on right now waiting the 10 min
Able Lock 10 f150 ,can I get a key made by a locksmith using the only 1 key I have and be able to reset the mykey it has programmed?
Thank you! Love your dogs 🥰
Wow.. Not sure if you remember, but i had discussed an issue i had with a 300 mile transit connect having a no crank / no start issue.. turns out a locksmith had programmed a new key for it just before i got it, and i definitely believe that is what has caused the issue. Once it comes back from the dealer, i will know for sure. I just thought it was interesting you specifically mentioned the transit connect being very picky with key programming.
+oneslow50 It sure is there are multiple step to those being a foreign based vehicle.
How does the computer know if you are using 1 or 2 different keys to program a new key?
Very informative! I'm surprised you convinced the "shop managers" to stay still on top of that cart...lol. I notice you use your escape as an example vehicle to demonstrate a lot of things. I'd like to see a video of changing a serpentine belt on a 2.5. Looks kinda like a pain in the butt but something I'd like to do to our 2011 at some point. It only has about 55k miles but we are gonna keep it for awhile and I like to keep up on maintenance.
klc317 I can do a video on that yes mine was changed recently but a simple removal and install video would be great content idea! Look for it in the near future.
That would be cool! Wasn't sure if motor mount had to be taken loose. Haven't really looked that close yet. Want to check the idler pulley as Ive heard they can get noisy due to plastic hub construction. Thanks again!
Have you ever thought about doing a video on what it takes to aquire, own, and use an IDS scan tool without working at the dealer. I know they can be bought but have no clue about any subscriptions that would have to be kept up or anything. I'd like to get into some Powerstroke repair stuff on the side and the IDS is definitely the best. What about the credentials required to download the files to program P's and other modules on Ford vehicles?
Banshee365 Yes I have it is on my list of videos to complete.
I just bought the Ford Transit. Got the option that included 4 keys. It was a 65$ option, but well worth it in the end.
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I am surprised Ford still makes the dealer wait out the 10 minutes. It is a rudimentary security measure originally developed in the 1980s when the first Fords were set up with transponders. This made it hard for a thief to add a key to a vehicle QUICKLY.
Ford dealers GENERALLY can only look up a vin for most recent 10 years. Unless the dealer is also a NASTF member ( usually that is just locksmiths ), then the history goes back to about 1998.
As a locksmith, I do not usually need to run vin numbers for a key code. But that is one of the benefits a locksmith will have. It is a narrow specialty that to go all-in, takes an investment and training most dealerships will not involve themselves in.
But I do not profess to repair cars. I service the immo system and the related mechanical components only. My job ends when the theft light goes out.
great video.
about how much does it cost to have a dealer program a key if you already have one.
nowadays even walmart can make transponder key copies for $65 cheaper than even autozone for $100 and for sure cheaper than any dealer and they work just as good... I bought a 1999 f250 with one key so now I got my second one but keep a non chipped in a magnetic box under the truck in case I get locked out but still wont start the car, maybe later I will get another chipped and keep that under the truck instead . Hope this helps others.
Great info and cool dogs too!
That's awesome that they can delete the previous keys! I just bought a 14 Fusion, and only got one key to her. Of course, it's not an administer key, and has the myKey enabled. :(
My local dealer in TX wants $300 and 2 hours for this same procedure on a 2014 F350.
A friend of mine has programed quite a few keys for ford f150s of diff yrs with a simple scanner that was like 100 bucks which he bought as a regular code scanner
Really beautiful Boxers!
+Rich Van Iderstine Thanks!
Have you tried FORScan yet? I dubbed it "Poor Man's IDS", the latest beta has introduced PATS programming ability for a lot of the popular US Ford products up to 2010.
Michael Luscher I just purchased it and the adapter we will see how it works out.
FordTechMakuloco well
Did it work? I just got elm327 with switch and forscan and would like to try it out. Thanks
Jason Khammo did it work with the elm327???
@@williamdiaz8100 AFAIK elm327 doesn't have programming capabilities
Thank you!!! I just programmed a key on a 09 Focus using FORScan, I'm still learning how to use it and its capabilities. Do you have a take on this software?
I have done this successfully on a Lincoln Navigator using Forscan
Thank you sir for the video. do you happen to also do the smart key as well. I would love to see how that is done. I have a 2011 mkx push button ignition.....
At Audi we have similar programming using the scan tool minus the wait however if a customer needs another key programmed, we need allll known keys even ones left at home to do it so it relearns all the keys. If you just bring me one and want one from parts programmed, guess what keys at home wont work anymore. Also if they are already programmed to another vehicle, they cant be programmed to another so no used keys. It comes in handy though if someone stole the car with the key and still has the key after its recovered, come to us to reprogram a new key, that stolen key will no longer work on any vehicle.
I was charged $100 for this at the dealer I go to, I only had one smart key for my SHO, I got a second used one off eBay for $30.
Wouldn't you have to program the smart key?
Hi Brian. Would you tell us more about the Transit Connect? I just bought a 2016 with one key and am going to get a second key from the dealer. I will check all functions before I leave, but would like more information on keys. Thanks
Not true cuz I got mine done for $3 to cut it & $50 to program it @ a local locksmiths shop dat was 3 yrs ago, haven't had any problems yet..!!!
So if my 2014 fusion had 2 fobs but I lost one but bought a new replacement fob do I need to go to the dealership to get this new 3rd fob programmed or can I do it myself since its technically a 3rd fob? What ius a rough cost they charge to program keys I am guessing not covered under the extended platinum warranty plan?
Please help! I changed ignition lock and key and small chip that is under the lock and it has a ring around the lock... That everything is from the one another car, now i have THEFT light. What I must do? Please help!
what scan tool or thing your using to do this? also if I replaced my pcm how do i program the key to that
I have a 2016 f150 lariat that has developed a strange problem. It will randomly lock itself, anytime, day or night, key fob will be sitting on counter or hanging on wall, horn will honk, lights will flash just like you were locking it with fob. I put new batteries in both fobs, didn't help. I took out the batteries in the suspected fob and so far, to my knowledge, it has not happened.
So now at a point of buying new fob. Has anyone ever heard of this?
BTW, love your channel.
Thanks for the awesome videos. Question for you. On the 2015 Ford Fiesta ST, is it possible to have a dealer change the number of blinks from 3 to 4 for the turn signals in lane changing mode?
***** I highly doubt it but then again I never looked into the programables on this particular car each one is different.
transponder and transceiver are programmed(they come from the same Escape), but I still have the theft light sometimes blinking, another time static
There is no programming required for the transceiver whereas the transponder key must still be programmed.
@@FordTechMakuloco and also the cpm are from the working escape
right know the escape only have a vin mismatch
Subscribed! I am trying to program the two keys, erase all and cycle key1 cycle key2 cycle key1 etc. I do this but as soon as I put in my second key the anti theft light flashes when I go to cycle key2. Finish and neither are programmed. Ilco keys I'm so close going through the same Menus you had.
Shame they done the keys that way , Not all dealers want to do keys for you and only a few scan tools can program them . Some locksmiths near here do them also.
What is the deal with the new requirement of being a licensed locksmith to access PATS on new fords. I have a VCM 2 and IDS as a DIY’er and I can’t even program keys on my own car because I don’t “own a business with million dollar insurance,” how does you shop deal with this? Are you guys on the licensed locksmith list or can you just not do new keys? This just seems like the most anti consumer thing possible because even though I have the means I have to pay some locksmith 100 bucks to do something that I am perfectly capable of doing myself. This is on a 2018 Ford Edge btw
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FordTechMakuloco, thanks for your video very helpful. There is my situation I did burnt out my pcm and a new one is required. So I am wondering if I buy a used one do I need to erase other key and add mine or Do i just need to add only mine and ready to go for my ford escape 2015.
Hi love the techy stuff. I would love to know if it is possible to use a 15'+ switchblade fob can be programmed to a 13' Edge Sport? I need to get replacements and love the look! TIA!
Is there a way to get the software or whatever is needed for that, and do it yourself??? That would be a really nice thing if a guy could actually do the key replacement themselves and not have to use something like forscan, which I have heard of some people doing
So if you have no programmed keys, you will need to go to a dealership?
+Catelyn Rossetto yes or locksmith
What if your programmed key is broken in half what are your options? The dealership or locksmith?
@@nfamousonline take the chip out of the broken key and use it to program another key.
Hello FordTechMakuloco. I am having two issues with my 2008 Ford F250 Lariat. One of the issues is in a video that I have uploaded. The two issues I am having is the traction control switch comes off and the system doesn't work but I replaced the abs module and the switch. Also the key less entry fob does not work with the truck. It does not unlock or lock any of the doors. I have tried all of the reprogramming things and nothing has worked. None of the fobs work and the Ford dealer can't figure it out too. Same with the traction control issue.
Great video. I have a question. Is there anyway that the PATS wont work but the unlock/lock, etc still work? I have traced everything on a 2014 Mustang V6 and cant figure out why it wont start. No relay click on the starter relay. Thanks for any help.
I have 1 original key I have ace hardware cut my duplicate you can open door but not start, inside the key hole on steering coloum there's a round plastic thing I think that's the security lock of the key just tape your original key in there then use your duplicate key to start the engine no more programming needed
Excellent vid
Can one of those newer style keys with the built-in remote be used in the older Fords that have it separate?
I have a 98 mustang and I'm the original owner but I have a few questions. How much will I be looking to spend since I lost one set of keys and the current key I have now I almost broken? I want the key fobs as well so give me a range of what I should expect?
How can I aquire the software and plugs?
I have a 2016 Focus that I bought wrecked from Copart with no key at all. I got a parts car (2015 MY) with keys. I removed the complete lock cylinder/Transceiver assembly from both cars, swapped the electronic components from the 2016 to the 2015, and installed the 2015 into the car.
Now I have the car's original electronics, and a good cylinder/key assembly. So I can turn the key to "on" and everything powers up like it should. It doesn't start, though (which is no surprise). The only thing wrong is that the car won't actually start, and I have a "no key detected" message on the dash.
Can I take the car to the dealer and have them program the 2015 keys to my car?
huh, what's that "unlimited key mode" is that essentially "disable pats", I thought of doing that on my 99 150....
on another topic, do you have any suggestions on how to do body/cab mounts on a 05 f350 using a floor jack and a set of jack stands in the street in front of my house? peeticular order, tips/tricks, etc??
thanks for your time.
What if you've lost your original and have NO keys. Ford dealer told me to put the Windstar on a flatbed, bring it to them. Theyll install the new ignition and program the keys. We live in a small rural community and no locksmith within an hour either. Can't I install the new ignition myself and progeam the keys?? Any help would be tremendously appreciated.
I just purchased a 12 explorer & it only came with 1 mykey and has all the safety features on. Local Ford dealer says i need 2 new keys at 135 apiece & 130 in labor to program so that i can turn mykey off....... wish i had known that before i bought it
So we have a Ford F 150 with two remotes, how Do I program a new 3rd or 4th key, as you mentioned here?
Question , I have an integrated key with 4 buttons for my Lincoln. I also have a factory remote starter that works with an additional appendage remote. I want to know is there a way to program my integrated key to remote start my car possibly by pressing a combination of buttons or pressing one button multiple times?
One other thing is if you have remote start and you have non remote start keys programmed only the non remote start keys will start the vehicle.
Thanks for all your awesome videos sir! Also how could I get my hands on one for those ford scan tools like you have there? Is it just a program on the computer or is it a completely different unit? Thanks again from sunny southwest Florida!
Also what generic handheld scan tool would you recommend? I'm interested in getting your opinion on what is best for someone who DIY's.
Taylor France I really don't get into the aftermarket scan tools.
Taylor France The program is free but the interface is something like $1600
what can i do,i have a ford escape 2005 4cyl i saw a video in yutube that if you only have one key,you can make a cheap spear key and put the original one near the ignition and start it with the spear key and i tried it it work,i started it about four times with the spear key, then after that it didnt want to start with the spear key, then i put the original key and did not start niether i tried many times and the originall key is not starting the car, what advice can you give me
@@FordTechMakuloco hi what interface is good?
Brian,
Have you taught them to go fetch your tools yet? I have 3 Terriers and they all love to grab my hammers and run around with them. And sometimes they DO bring them back to me.
jdmeaux No but it is on the top of my list I could use some help around here.
@@FordTechMakuloco my black lab mix will pick up and bring me tools I drop (or keys, a bucket, etc) SO handy for things that roll just out of reach- u know, dead center under the vehicle as far as possible from anywhere. VERY useful! She will pick up and bring anything I point at, or if it is something I gave her the name of once, from then on she will also go find it (keys). She also picks up and puts away her toys in a bucket at night before coming in- I may see if she will put away tools, too, lol.
@FordTechMakuloco I was wondering if you know of any way to increase the range of the keyless entry on my 2006 f150. It’s a lariat supercrew, idk if that matters. Thanks in advance, and also thanks for all the lifesaving videos on the 5.4 triton!
Not including the ‘put it on your head’ trick haha, I was thinking more along the line of lengthening the antenna or something along those lines.
do you have to get the new key cut before you take it to the dealership to be programmed or do they cut it there?
Jsut another way for Auto Makers to Create More Business ( Profits) for its Dealers..Samefor creating More Items to come with the car that used to be Optional..just to raise its prices and Profits!
Can I do a new PATS at home on a blank transponder with only one key?
Can you get a new key fob for a Ford 2008 Expedition and get one to use for starting the truck???
How can I program new keys when the ignition cylinder has been replaced due to attempted theft, I have replaced the batteries on 2000 Ford excursion Disel too, thank you!!
What is the best ONLINE resource for OEM keys? I have the same FOB/REMOTE (Full Featured) start key you are showing in your video for my 2015 F250 King Ranch and for some reason the REMOTE START function one of my two remotes doesn't work on one Key/Fob, when I try to start it, I get flashing lights and one horn honk. Is it a programming thing or something else? My remote #2 that came with the truck works fine, truck starts fine, etc.
Can you DIY on 2018 models with push start? Still have two original fobs.
This worked great on my Ford. But on my Lincoln, it has an intelligent access key. Instead of a 10 minute PATS timeout, it is asking me to be online and to login as a dealer or with a NASTF locksmith ID. Any way around this?
The key is not the issue it is the vehicle starting in 2015 select vehicles you must be online with Ford to authenticate and it is only expanding to other models as time goes on there is no way around it.
Locksmiths that are up to date can handle this as well as many other newer systems. It is done autonimously, not via a JXXX cable, subscription or factory interface.
After added the key, the remote buttons don’t work. Does it mean the key I bought from from amazon doesn’t fit?
It depends, it could be the key was not left in long enough during programming so the key code was recorded but the fob part was not programmed or you have exceeded the amount of fobs that can be programmed. Most vehicle have a max of 4 fobs and 8 keys in memory. Or you have an 08 escape and have used a newer key that the cluster does not recognize and the cluster needs to be updated or it could be cheap aftermarket keys.
I only have 1 key for a 10 f150 which is programmed as a “mykey” if I get a new key made at a locksmith will that be enough to reset the mykey option? Or will the new key be a master key with no speed or volume limits?
I recently had my 2002 Ford Mustang broken in to, and they completely destroyed the steering column. I swapped out columns and bought a new cylinder and key, so I was wondering if there is a manual way to program a key to I can drive my car? If there is no other way, then I will have to get my Mustang towed to the dealer :(
I love the dogs...
Why does programing a new key require 2 Keys? I have an older ford Expedition 97 Eddie Bauer. I only recieved 1 key when I purchased the used truck 4 years ago. I am not sure why this worked for me, but I bought 2 blank keys for cheap off Amazon with chips in them. I made copies of the blanks with my original 1 Key, I did the whole insert key turn On to On position then off then On like other videos I have seen. I used my 1 key turned On ignition to on position waited 3 sec turned Off pulled out the the 1 key I have then put same key back in ignition turned ignition to On position waited 3 second then turned off pulled out key then put in the brand new key with chip turned it to On position and theft light went out turned off. Then started the truck let it run for 5 min drove to the store and back and it works every time. Why did this work? everyone is saying you need 2 keys to do this but I did it with only 1 key. If you think something is wrong with my PATS the answer is No I have another key with a chip in it I have not programed yet if I try and start the truck with that key the theft light stays On and the truck starts then it dies after 30 seconds so the security is working like it is supposed 2. Any Thoughts is it older year maybe?
I wondered the same thing.... I bought a 2001 Escape and it only came with 1 fob and 1 PATS key. I was thinking of buying the cheap blanks from Amazon and having them cut but wasn't sure if it would work or not.
Was curious i got a 2013 police interceptor and notice it had a door keypad is it possible to turn it on?
Hey buddy I have 12 ford flex I have new PCM install pre-program from repair shop , and told me I have to have key program to start a car. Do you think I can do on Maxisys & J2534 Reprogramming without call locksmith. thank you
Hello i replaced the lock cylinder on a 2001 mazda b3000 and selected the delete stored keys and program new ones. Followed the scan tool instructions but cannot get it to work. Am i missing something or how can i tell if the new keys are the problem
Is it the same procedure for a 2003 f150 where it's just the key and fob is seperate ?
Hello
Mine is Ford Fusion 2012 se
While programming two new key fobs, something went wrong probably I pressed other keys than the lock key.
Anyway, now the original key works fine. but the problem is :
the light that indicates pairing mode is flashing every 2.5 seconds, if the original key is entered it stops flashing and can be turned on. BUT if the misprogrammed key is entered its flashing pace increases to ~ 3 times every second. The newly misprogrammed keys can lock/unlock doors but they will not open the trunk or turn the car on.
I try the following but neither worked
1- Discount the battery overnight
2- switching the original key on/off and Entering programming mode and let the car exit pairing mode by itself.
Please help, is there a way that let me exit the programming mode and/or reprogram the new misprogrammed keys?
Can you program a used ford key fob from another vehicle to your (similar year) ford vehicle?
The 40/80 bit keys don't work on pre-2000 cars. My 99 SHO took an H73 key
I bought a 2012 expedition. I have one 4 button key and one plain key w/ a chip but no buttons. Can I buy a key online and program it myself since I have 2 keys with chips?
What scan tool do you use ?
So why is Shamaley Ford in El Paso charging 140 for the key, 80 for the cut and 150 to program it?
Holy cow run!
Went to another local dealership and they charged me $129 for the key, free cut and programmed it for free too.
Awesome!
Shame on Shamaley Ford they are a bunch of Shysters.
I have a 2008 Lincoln mkx and my remote starter is not working, what is happening is when I press the start button the ignition comes on and the horn starts honking
I feel like if I owned a vehicle that had one of these, and the key broke or something, I would just rewire the whole thing and be done with it.
Hey I gotten a 98 mustang and I had to change out the ignition cause had misplaced the original key but now I've found it... so I was wondering how could go by getting my car to crank?
Hi, I'm trying to program an additional key for my 2004 Explorer. I have 2 working keys, everything goes well until I put the third key in, the anti theft light doesn't go off but starts to flash quickly. what am I doing wrong?
Great video thanks for posting!! Quick question.. I have a 2014 Ford Explorer and have only 1 keyfob that performs proximity access and allows for push button start. As i read in the manual it requires 2 keys to complete the programming but I really dont want to pay Ford $150 to program it. Will this procedure allow me to program the keyfob type M3N5WY8609 P/N: 164-R8092 if I use the latest version of the IDS software v111.03 and have an ODB link? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers sir.
I have a 2000 f150 5.4. It has the stand alone key fob, the issue is that the tabs on the fob keep breaking off. They are not that cheap form the dealer. I can get them after market, but they break easer that the dealer ones. Is it possible to get a all in one key like the one you just showed for the 2000 ford trucks? Any advise? Thanks Robert
Robert Russell As far as I know those IKT's are not compatible with your vehicle. The ford ones cant be more than $25 and you can program the remote yourself too.
Hi sir. I replaced the transceiver ring in column of 00 explorer after running a screw into it. Changed transceiver but cant program any keys, does transceiver need programming to car or am i doing something wrong? I have forscan tool. What are the poceedures using forscan? Plz help, Thx!
this is why i love my old hot rods..$2.11 and no crap..
And ten seconds to steal. Seriously though just another gimmick u gotta pay for nothin any security system can fight .. A flat rollback and dollies.. And four minutes... Im from longbeach.. I seen it done..
They don't call it a stealership for no reason. Asanine.
Hey brother I just had a set of keys programmed and cut for a 2013 ford fusion. well 1 week and 500$ later my keys stopped working...they'll start the car but the buttons don't pop the trunk unlock or lock the car either...what would you think that would be? Called the dealer and they said something else broke claiming it's probably the transceiver now and want 130$ just to diag. any advice or should i argue with them to reprogram the buttons?