Hey, hey, hey! How dare you give spoilers to a game that I have absolutely no plans on playing in the near future! Me, who doesn't care about spoilers in the first place! Honestly, some people....
Truly despicable, how dare you shove this spoiler in front of my broke as self when I can't even afford the game much less the console required to play it, and I'll most likely never see myself exert effort to change that anytime soon. I may be insulted by your utter lack of care for others but id hate too stoop to your level.
Oh god now my experience of the weird final chapter of semi-deleted Metal Gear Solid 5 content is absolutely ruined! Next you'll tell me that Eli is supposed to be some sort of weird excuse to show off an unnecessary backstory of an original Metal Gear Solid character, like Psycho Mantis! Or Liquid Snake!
I physically cannot tell if he's saying it as "You're right to blame me, because I did cause this." or if he's saying "Yeah, go ahead and blame me for all of your mistakes, that I had nothing to do with."
I'd like to think it's the latter. You can kinda hear a bit of snark in how he delivers "blame ME," like he's clearly had it with Eli's nonsense at this point.
I think it’s a bit of both, on the one hand, Snake feels that as an adult he should have been better with Eli, on the other hand, Eli needs to own up to his actions
100% its a real cutscene. It was a deleted mission Island of The Flies only 30% was finished meaning a lot of textures, animations, lighting and music are finished
@@tsukasa9838 You can see whats missing if youre into creating Game Content. A lot of the textures were very muddy, a lot of details on the ground(grass, dirt, etc) wasnt there that is usually there in MGS cutscenes. Background noises, background foliage and objects were missing as well. Light-wise it left a lot to be desired too. Voice acting and animation wise? Yeah sure good scene, everything else? Nah. But that just proves how very well MGS was made that even just a little offered so much.
Interesting sidenote: There was a behind the scenes on how kojima productions utilized motion-capturing technology and in that video you could see an actor performing this exact scene. Must've been pretty early after TPP was first announced
@@girlginsmash Yeah , agreed anyone have a link? It would be insightful to know how early this got cut. Depending on the timeframe it could indicate how much of the game was cut.
@@seb6226 hmm from ingame context there was suppose to be a war with cipher,i'm guessing kaz betrays you in chapter 3 or something explaining why he wasn't present in mgx
@@MGrey-qb5xz kaz already betrayed venom, ground zeroes Miller says "I cant believe we ever bought that cover story" when literaly the end of peace Walker he tells big boss he knew about paz all along. Something else? Ground zeroes and tpp are the only 2 games that feature keifer as snake, because they're a different character. Venom sees himself as the real snake, and imagines big boss looking like his face, but he is merely a phantom of big boss. In ground zeroes you are playing as venom being brainwashed in his hypnogogiac coma by ocelot, the missions fortes are presented to you via photograph (something venom uses to tether his memory In "reality"), furthermore, as we know now at the end of mgsv tpp, cipher was always sort of connected to Miller and Diamond dogs. We can make this connection even deeper if we listen carefully in some of the tapes in ground zeroes, we can hear a voice that sounds remarkably similar to miller saying "keep her held down!" Pythonselkanhd has a great video on the matter I suggest you check out if you want to learn more
And only 30% complete, could you imagine how much *more* epic it would have been if we had gotten the full 100? I'm thinking Michael Bay level of explosions going on around them
@@DotyFuzz id say its kinda neat he doesnt talk that often, because if he did more people might suspect hes not actually the boss, when you first meet alot of characters in TPP they look really closely at venom and go snake is that really you like they didnt perfectly capture the real snakes face with all the plastic surgery so theres something very slightly off about his looks, the lack of alot of speaking is probably so people dont have a second reason to not believe its the boss
Hayter fanboys will disagree, but I'll take Keifer's silence to Hayter parroting every other word said to him and his stereotypical 80's saturday morning cartoon voice
@@EATSFALCONPUNCH yea couldnt agree more nothing is more cringy than hayter repeating everything thats said to him. "There are 3 card keys" Hayter: "card keys!?!?!" "You need to go the underground warehouse and destroy metal gear" Hayter: "Metal Gear!?!?!" And so on so forth 🤣
@@idrinkmilk282 It's one of my favorite games ever. I just really wish Konami would have let it be fully finished and we could have gotten the whole Lord of The Flies arc. Maybe someday... but probably not.
@@toniodivichi5749 Couldn't help seeing the connection. The masks. The hope of what 2020 would be that didn't pan out for many. People blaming the year instead of taking responsibility....
@@bergonath8851 Well, it’s not outright confirmed, but the post-credit scene of MGSV has Ocelot telling Master Miller that if he turns against Big Boss, they will become enemies and one of them will have to kill the other. Combine that with the fact that Miller was killed prior to the Shadow Moses Incident, and we’re led to believe that Liquid sent Ocelot to off Master.
@@fissilewhistle "And it was Ocelot who did it. Poor Master Miller, constantly fucked by life." Yes, the unfortunate guy who ran a mercenary company and tried to hide nuclear weapons from the UN. A boo hoo. A boo hoo hoo. Come on, are you serious? Miller was a horrible person way before his injuries. Although it wasn't necessarily Ocelot personally who killed him.
Venom was needed,the own Boss said it in the end of TPP,he had his role,and big boss have another in the shadows,the real problem was than Venom have his evil side than grew up with the time plus the fragment on his head make him have some "allucinations" and others stuff,he could match Big Boss on phisical stuff and others things thanks to the "player",but he didnt have the same mental strengh of the boss,after all he was just a medic who had a brainwash and they put a artificial personality.
@@DoctorFail you know what fuck you and fuck time paradoxes,let's just make a new metal gear time line. Who here doesn't want to see a new big boss game something like this ruclips.net/video/NChX6OWDz8o/видео.html and most definitely not this ruclips.net/video/ucDelQmNtcg/видео.html
In a sense? no, it wouldn't have caused a time paradox. In the end Miller and Ocelot knew that Venom was Big Medic, so him dying here wouldn't have made a difference, the real Big Boss would've "died" in MG1 to Snake and then be mostly machine by MG2 (as Kassler said, granted it was a rumour but they could've played it off on there, but nope, Big Medic being MG1's Big Boss makes even less sense, ontop of the fact that BIG BOSS, an known defector at the end of MGS PW (since the secretary of defence was there when he was titled into Big Boss) somehow was able to create an unit INSIDE the USA known as FOXHOUND, granted MG1 didn't have much of an story but it's still an glaring issue and Big Medic doesn't fix this, the fact that an known defector was able to make an unit inside the USA is still baffling me)
Fuck man that's just too relatable) I really need to start my bedtime at least an hour early to get the 8 hours of sleep i need. But the temptation! "Just one more mission, just 1 more match"
Both Venom and Big Boss express no love for his sons. On the other hand, both showed (or try to show, in the case of Eli) care and compassion for them. I think both Big Boss and Venom knew they were being used by the Patriots and Zero as pawn in the same way Big Boss was being used by the CIA to kill The Boss. Still, Big Boss didn't love his sons, but he didn't resent them either. Big Boss wasn't going to bother with Eli's hatred for him and Eli couldn't stand Big Boss's indifference to him.
@@sinister9111 we know for sure that Venom's own personality blended in with Big Boss as seen by the Paz illusions and he was a medic so he'd have some amount of compassion for people in general.
@@sinister9111 Plus the lore tends to point out that Big Boss preferred Solid Snake, even when they were foes. I can see why, because Solid Snake draws more comparison to The Boss, rather than Big Boss. While Liquid represents the worst side of Big Boss, a side Big Boss never wanted to acknowledge.
This is a dark reflection of the graveyard scenes in MGS4. Instead of Big Boss intervening to stop his son committing suicide, he goads him with the offer of a quick death.
It's dark until you realize Eli spread this parasite around to all the adults in the island to die feeling their very lungs chewed up and that very same parasite was about to do the same. They had to firebomb the place just to make sure to not leave a trace of the parasite around
[SPOILER ALERT] Does Venom know the truth about him and the real Big Boss at this point? If so you could interpret this scene as Venom having sympathy for Eli here, and says he's right to blame Big Boss for all of this. Venom knows this is messed up but has to "play the role". Which is why, at the end of this scene when the guy closes the helicopter door, Venom sees himself with a bloodied face. He sees that the things he's done for Big Boss is demonic. However if this is before the twist then all this goes out the window lmao
It doesn't matter. The scene where Venom punches the mirror is him rejecting his former identity to embrace his new Big Boss persona. He's clearly being sarcastic and is basically telling Liquid that he is the only one responsible for his actions. This is something Venom learned himself when Emmerich was blaming him for what's happened at Mother Base, because even though Emmerich betrayed MSF, Snake had too much hubris, Kaz overplayed his hand trying to play both sides, and Emmerich crumbled before the threat of Skullface. They were all to blame and he understands that, which is why he let Emmerich go instead of killing him, he SHOULD have been on that boat. He also knows revenge won't satisfy him since Skullface's death didn't help him at all, hence why we see a ghost of Skullface in scenes on Mother Base.
I agree but I think it is less of Venom having a sympathy for Eli and more about him wanting at this point to fully become as much of the meme of Big Boss as possible and he knows that the more Eli hates HIM, as the meme of Big Boss, the more he becomes, Big Boss. So less about sympathy and more about a sort of warped narcissism. Venom is just trying to complete his mission like every Snake.
@@landonletterman831 This is the end of the game (well was meant to be) but Konami forced time constraints on Kojima and so it was cut and replaced with the ending we got instead. Soon after Konami cut all ties with Kojima and blacklisted him so this will unfortunately never see the light of day.
"That's right. Don't blame yourself. Blame me." Yourself: MGS Fans Me: Konami For firing Kojima, cutting this ending as well as canceling Silent Hills & other projects & giving you MG Survive & Pachislots.
I love Hayter's voice, but in GZ and TPP I've come to accept Sutherland's voice. Besides he's pretty good, the casette tapes are pretty fulfilling for me while waiting for developments.
It feels like this was the original direction of the story ending what with the whole emmerich telling venom its his fault for everything. I think then kojima realised he could make the player feel the phantom pain of the game being "unfinished" and made the truth ending to make us as fans feel we were big boss.
@@snowy_sphinx wait so you cant name yourself after a character you liked unless you memorized every single detail down to the number of pubes snake has?
@@tntcake6327 [edit: fixed typos] way to miss the point entirely. No but its absolutely hilarious to name yourself after someone of that caliber and then not know that the game isn't finished...i wouldn't call the incomplete state of MGS:V a "a single detail down to the number of pubes snake had"...it was kinda a huuge controversial topic and anyone paying attention to the plot might notice it isn't finished... If you think that is a minute detail maybe you are a bit obtuse for the series 😅 No offense. But this is literally the equivalent if i named myself "Sherlock Holmes", changed my profile pic, stylized an entire RUclips channel after that theme and then asked "wait..Sherlock Holmes was in a book?" Dont get me wrong im all for defending strangers on the internet but this is just kinda bizarre to me🤦♂️ Seriously, it's like claiming to be a Mario fan after only ever seeing the live action show and not knowing its a video game series...its well within your right to call yourself a fan..but you better be ready to be made fun of for not knowing the obvious 😂😂😂
Kiefer has a ton of recorded dialogue in the game files, it was all just cut for some reason. Likely a change in direction for the character after it was recorded.
@@DangerSquad they did it cause they know how much people love David David did something, he wasn't JUST a voice actor He gave life to a fiictional character EVERY time he would put ALL of his emotion into the character He EVEN stated in 1 of his many interviews that he felt connected to the character of SNAKE He EVEN accepted less money from Konami to KEEP been Snake !!! Tell me 1 person who would do that right now ! 1 person that is THIS connected to a character as david give a break here man
@@monkeydjimmy5169 I doubt it, if they cared that much they wouldn't have gotten rid of him to begin with. (And would have at least given him more notice that they were looking for someone else) It also doesn't make a lot of sense to spend so much money for all these extra lines just to not use them out of a sense of respect (This is Konami we're talking about lol 😅 , they didn't even respect Kojima, why would they respect Hayter) My guess is that it would be a mixture of cut content and the story changing (Maybe even just alternative lines that were later picked from)
What's great is that once you realize that many mgsv moments are a reflection of Kojimas relationship with Konami, you realize that this has a much deeper meaning
Reading the title I expected him to mean it genuinely that he takes all the blame, because thats usually what venom does, he takes responsibility for everything and everyone. But I also respect him telling eli how it is and teaching him that he also needs to take responsibility.
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Unfortunately for Big Boss and the rest of the world, Liquid took that very very VERY literally
Just literally
If he took that very very literally he would blame the phantom
I love that shadow pfp I have that comic
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola I mean it’s Liquid, so of course he’d do that too..
Ni Cola Liquid didn’t know about Venom
i like how Liquid grew up to hate Big Boss even tho he met the wrong guy
Spoilers: Eli does in fact blame him.
Hey, hey, hey! How dare you give spoilers to a game that I have absolutely no plans on playing in the near future! Me, who doesn't care about spoilers in the first place! Honestly, some people....
@@ladywaffle2210 Yeah! Especially for a game that's decades old! God I wish some people would consider how their actions have consequences.
Truly despicable, how dare you shove this spoiler in front of my broke as self when I can't even afford the game much less the console required to play it, and I'll most likely never see myself exert effort to change that anytime soon. I may be insulted by your utter lack of care for others but id hate too stoop to your level.
Truly the most vial thing any human can commit.
Oh god now my experience of the weird final chapter of semi-deleted Metal Gear Solid 5 content is absolutely ruined!
Next you'll tell me that Eli is supposed to be some sort of weird excuse to show off an unnecessary backstory of an original Metal Gear Solid character, like Psycho Mantis! Or Liquid Snake!
I physically cannot tell if he's saying it as "You're right to blame me, because I did cause this." or if he's saying "Yeah, go ahead and blame me for all of your mistakes, that I had nothing to do with."
I'd like to think it's the latter. You can kinda hear a bit of snark in how he delivers "blame ME," like he's clearly had it with Eli's nonsense at this point.
Latter
I think it’s a bit of both, on the one hand, Snake feels that as an adult he should have been better with Eli, on the other hand, Eli needs to own up to his actions
@@senorbongo4975 yeah i think its both also fuck Eli. No not that kind of fuck-
FBI OPEN UP
@sleeping bear oooooh, that's goood!😁
What's amazing is that it's only 30% real cutscene, _but it still tastes like real cutscene!_
If I didn't just win "Stupidest Comment on the Internet," I'm gonna be real sad.
At _least_ a nomination, C'MOOOOON!
"Mmm, this is tasty!"
@@oscarlima.729 IKR!?
100% its a real cutscene. It was a deleted mission Island of The Flies only 30% was finished meaning a lot of textures, animations, lighting and music are finished
@@tsukasa9838 You can see whats missing if youre into creating Game Content.
A lot of the textures were very muddy, a lot of details on the ground(grass, dirt, etc) wasnt there that is usually there in MGS cutscenes.
Background noises, background foliage and objects were missing as well.
Light-wise it left a lot to be desired too.
Voice acting and animation wise? Yeah sure good scene, everything else? Nah.
But that just proves how very well MGS was made that even just a little offered so much.
And so he did. He blamed Big Boss for who he is. Even in death, he still felt resentment toward a man who wasn't there. A phantom.
Well..it's a nice a spot as any...
*Spoiler* The kid got saved at the end
@@GrumpyGremlin. and he'd grow up to have a very complex and violent life as Liquid Snake...still hating Big Boss.
Man, what a pain.
@@toastcrunch9387 a phantom.. Pain
Interesting sidenote: There was a behind the scenes on how kojima productions utilized motion-capturing technology and in that video you could see an actor performing this exact scene. Must've been pretty early after TPP was first announced
I know I'm 3 years late to this comment, but does anyone have a link?
@@girlginsmash Yeah , agreed anyone have a link? It would be insightful to know how early this got cut. Depending on the timeframe it could indicate how much of the game was cut.
@@seb6226 hmm from ingame context there was suppose to be a war with cipher,i'm guessing kaz betrays you in chapter 3 or something explaining why he wasn't present in mgx
@@MGrey-qb5xz kaz already betrayed venom, ground zeroes Miller says "I cant believe we ever bought that cover story" when literaly the end of peace Walker he tells big boss he knew about paz all along. Something else? Ground zeroes and tpp are the only 2 games that feature keifer as snake, because they're a different character. Venom sees himself as the real snake, and imagines big boss looking like his face, but he is merely a phantom of big boss. In ground zeroes you are playing as venom being brainwashed in his hypnogogiac coma by ocelot, the missions fortes are presented to you via photograph (something venom uses to tether his memory In "reality"), furthermore, as we know now at the end of mgsv tpp, cipher was always sort of connected to Miller and Diamond dogs. We can make this connection even deeper if we listen carefully in some of the tapes in ground zeroes, we can hear a voice that sounds remarkably similar to miller saying "keep her held down!" Pythonselkanhd has a great video on the matter I suggest you check out if you want to learn more
@@TheKiddingStar NeverBeGameOver
One of the most epic quotes in the game.
+GrayCloud FOX! And yet, It's not even in the game.
I know...ironic isn't? XD damn you Konami!
There were three, where's the other?
I thought this and Kaz saying "This is the enemy, and he's here on his knees!" were the best quotes in the game.
And only 30% complete, could you imagine how much *more* epic it would have been if we had gotten the full 100?
I'm thinking Michael Bay level of explosions going on around them
Don’t blame me, blame society.
-Carl Johnson
“DON’T BLAME ME, BLAME YO’SELF!” -Carl Johnson(Alternate line)
We live in one
"Gimme' dem chips!"
we live in a society
"You're always saying it's society, but maybe it's you". (please God, let someone get this reference)
venom snake is just so charismatic.
Hes a chad
silentchad.
yeah, only in 5% of the game when he actually talks
Makes me wish he talked more
@@DotyFuzz id say its kinda neat he doesnt talk that often, because if he did more people might suspect hes not actually the boss, when you first meet alot of characters in TPP they look really closely at venom and go snake is that really you like they didnt perfectly capture the real snakes face with all the plastic surgery so theres something very slightly off about his looks, the lack of alot of speaking is probably so people dont have a second reason to not believe its the boss
I honestly think Kiefer did an AMAZING job as Venom Snake. He doesnt say a lot but what he "does" say hits hard.
Nope
Yea sadly he doesn't talk a lot
Hayter fanboys will disagree, but I'll take Keifer's silence to Hayter parroting every other word said to him and his stereotypical 80's saturday morning cartoon voice
@@EATSFALCONPUNCH yea couldnt agree more nothing is more cringy than hayter repeating everything thats said to him.
"There are 3 card keys"
Hayter: "card keys!?!?!"
"You need to go the underground warehouse and destroy metal gear"
Hayter: "Metal Gear!?!?!"
And so on so forth 🤣
@@johnkeane320 Excluding his role as John/Naked Snake in MGS3.
"How does it taste?"
MGSV is a past that won't stop haunting and hurting. God damn Konami.
Why are we here, just to suffer?
i guess you could call it... *Phantom Pain*
@@Sanford047 I feel like I’m in... Ground Zeroes!
Mgsv is a great game ppl need to get over it and enjoy it for what it is.
@@idrinkmilk282 It's one of my favorite games ever. I just really wish Konami would have let it be fully finished and we could have gotten the whole Lord of The Flies arc.
Maybe someday... but probably not.
And Konami has the audacity to say that this was just a ‘side project’
Shouldn't have had a big ol' V beside it
"That's right. Don't blame yourself. Blame me"
*In the business, we call this foreshadowing*
When your teamate doesn't revive you
Gorilla Glue executives be like:
LOL
Random chick glued her hair again?
@@dindol7524 *a new one did
@@dindol7524 a “trans alien” or whatever the hell they call they’re self
she need to blame herself tho
How 2020 left us.
This is the best comment on this video.
@@coltbusick6644 Thank you!
Shit, that's good.
@@toniodivichi5749 Couldn't help seeing the connection. The masks. The hope of what 2020 would be that didn't pan out for many. People blaming the year instead of taking responsibility....
@@Athen239 "instead of taking responsibility..." Oof okay. XD
And remember... This leads up to Liquid orchestrating Kaz's death
And it was Ocelot who did it. Poor Master Miller, constantly fucked by life.
@@fissilewhistle I don't remember that. Was it really Ocelot who off'd Miller!?
@@bergonath8851 Well, it’s not outright confirmed, but the post-credit scene of MGSV has Ocelot telling Master Miller that if he turns against Big Boss, they will become enemies and one of them will have to kill the other. Combine that with the fact that Miller was killed prior to the Shadow Moses Incident, and we’re led to believe that Liquid sent Ocelot to off Master.
@@fissilewhistle That's cold, even for Ocelot.
@@fissilewhistle "And it was Ocelot who did it. Poor Master Miller, constantly fucked by life."
Yes, the unfortunate guy who ran a mercenary company and tried to hide nuclear weapons from the UN. A boo hoo. A boo hoo hoo. Come on, are you serious? Miller was a horrible person way before his injuries. Although it wasn't necessarily Ocelot personally who killed him.
No matter how badass Big Boss may seem, know that he died by a hairspray + lighter.
Although, that same hairspray and lighter was used by another badass.
Venom was killed that way not Big Boss he died to FOXDIE in MGS4
Venom died to a rocket launcher, several rockets mind you 🤣
@@BaruGaming oh yewh i remember metal gear (nes)
He was final boss
Wrong Big Boss dude.
WHY COULDNT WE HAVE THE FULL GAME DAMNIT! THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
They fucking did alright
@@kristiankurti3121 it felt unfinished though
@@stickthelanding4785 exactly
They didn't finish it because Kojima pretty much lost his mind
Yeah wtf a videogame without an ending
When you did the entire school project on your own and for that, your partner got an F
Solid: So that’s why you are so obsessed with big boss. Some warped kind of Love!
Liquid: Love? it’s Hate!
Venom should have ended his life right there, but TIME PARADOX
But then Solid Snake would have never met Otacon and taken down the Patriots.
@@DoctorFail exactly :(
Venom was needed,the own Boss said it in the end of TPP,he had his role,and big boss have another in the shadows,the real problem was than Venom have his evil side than grew up with the time plus the fragment on his head make him have some "allucinations" and others stuff,he could match Big Boss on phisical stuff and others things thanks to the "player",but he didnt have the same mental strengh of the boss,after all he was just a medic who had a brainwash and they put a artificial personality.
@@DoctorFail you know what fuck you and fuck time paradoxes,let's just make a new metal gear time line. Who here doesn't want to see a new big boss game something like this ruclips.net/video/NChX6OWDz8o/видео.html and most definitely not this ruclips.net/video/ucDelQmNtcg/видео.html
In a sense? no, it wouldn't have caused a time paradox.
In the end Miller and Ocelot knew that Venom was Big Medic, so him dying here wouldn't have made a difference, the real Big Boss would've "died" in MG1 to Snake and then be mostly machine by MG2 (as Kassler said, granted it was a rumour but they could've played it off on there, but nope, Big Medic being MG1's Big Boss makes even less sense, ontop of the fact that BIG BOSS, an known defector at the end of MGS PW (since the secretary of defence was there when he was titled into Big Boss) somehow was able to create an unit INSIDE the USA known as FOXHOUND, granted MG1 didn't have much of an story but it's still an glaring issue and Big Medic doesn't fix this, the fact that an known defector was able to make an unit inside the USA is still baffling me)
"Owned by Konami"
Unfortunatly...
I honestly can't get over how bad ass Kiefer Sutherland's voice is and how perfect it is for Snake
I honestly like it to be this way, big boss is david hayter while venom is kiefer
A story about sons, fathers, artificial fathers, artificial sons, country, being used, cast aside, and a whole lot of emotion.
My computer after I stayed up all night watching RUclips and didn't study for the test
Fuck man that's just too relatable) I really need to start my bedtime at least an hour early to get the 8 hours of sleep i need. But the temptation! "Just one more mission, just 1 more match"
Both Venom and Big Boss express no love for his sons. On the other hand, both showed (or try to show, in the case of Eli) care and compassion for them. I think both Big Boss and Venom knew they were being used by the Patriots and Zero as pawn in the same way Big Boss was being used by the CIA to kill The Boss.
Still, Big Boss didn't love his sons, but he didn't resent them either. Big Boss wasn't going to bother with Eli's hatred for him and Eli couldn't stand Big Boss's indifference to him.
I'd imagine Venom to actually care more than the Boss did.
Venom got Eli out of Africa whereas Big Boss hoped Eli wouldn’t make it out alive.
@@sinister9111 we know for sure that Venom's own personality blended in with Big Boss as seen by the Paz illusions and he was a medic so he'd have some amount of compassion for people in general.
@@sinister9111 Plus the lore tends to point out that Big Boss preferred Solid Snake, even when they were foes. I can see why, because Solid Snake draws more comparison to The Boss, rather than Big Boss. While Liquid represents the worst side of Big Boss, a side Big Boss never wanted to acknowledge.
@@Gman941 Because Solid is more of a pure soldier, and Liquid is a trickster.
This is a dark reflection of the graveyard scenes in MGS4. Instead of Big Boss intervening to stop his son committing suicide, he goads him with the offer of a quick death.
It's dark until you realize Eli spread this parasite around to all the adults in the island to die feeling their very lungs chewed up and that very same parasite was about to do the same. They had to firebomb the place just to make sure to not leave a trace of the parasite around
What a salvage thing for a not-real father saying to his son.
truly salvage, i wish he could savage this situation.
You cant escape the dad genes, its in the dna of the soul
That's how step fathers treat their step kids
Kojima when metal gear fans get mad at him for not making any more metal gear games despite him wanting to finish the series on mgs2.
God imagine how cool this cutscene could be if you used your custom snake + GZ sneaking suit
this is venom snakes best outfit.
GZ sneaking suit + bandana goes so hard I just wish the suit had diamond dogs patches (yes ik why it doesn't but still)
Liquid would proceed to blame Big Boss for literally everything
*Amazing, mission complete*
*That right there is why you're the best boss, the one and only*
What I told my ex wife the day we signed our divorce papers.
[SPOILER ALERT] Does Venom know the truth about him and the real Big Boss at this point? If so you could interpret this scene as Venom having sympathy for Eli here, and says he's right to blame Big Boss for all of this. Venom knows this is messed up but has to "play the role". Which is why, at the end of this scene when the guy closes the helicopter door, Venom sees himself with a bloodied face. He sees that the things he's done for Big Boss is demonic.
However if this is before the twist then all this goes out the window lmao
By this point he should know, since the scene is from the cut Mission 51 whereas Venom finds out in Mission 46 iirc
It doesn't matter. The scene where Venom punches the mirror is him rejecting his former identity to embrace his new Big Boss persona. He's clearly being sarcastic and is basically telling Liquid that he is the only one responsible for his actions. This is something Venom learned himself when Emmerich was blaming him for what's happened at Mother Base, because even though Emmerich betrayed MSF, Snake had too much hubris, Kaz overplayed his hand trying to play both sides, and Emmerich crumbled before the threat of Skullface. They were all to blame and he understands that, which is why he let Emmerich go instead of killing him, he SHOULD have been on that boat. He also knows revenge won't satisfy him since Skullface's death didn't help him at all, hence why we see a ghost of Skullface in scenes on Mother Base.
@@dikasmusha6194 interesting, thanks for the lesson boss 👍🏽
I agree but I think it is less of Venom having a sympathy for Eli and more about him wanting at this point to fully become as much of the meme of Big Boss as possible and he knows that the more Eli hates HIM, as the meme of Big Boss, the more he becomes, Big Boss. So less about sympathy and more about a sort of warped narcissism. Venom is just trying to complete his mission like every Snake.
@Grandmaster Adobe Flash - what an interesting take on this scene!
When My brother is losing a 1v1 against me and he says I'm cheating.
Star wars Battlefront 2?
@@RecountDaFox1 Rocket League?
@@MayorAlexDerGrosse siege?
@@impossibleypossible5647 Call of Duty?
for honor?
Liquid: *And I took that personally*
Can we turn this into a meme?
Seriously, why are we watching this if it's only 30% done? I can wait for 70%, what's the rush?
@@landonletterman831 This is the end of the game (well was meant to be) but Konami forced time constraints on Kojima and so it was cut and replaced with the ending we got instead. Soon after Konami cut all ties with Kojima and blacklisted him so this will unfortunately never see the light of day.
No.
No
It would be a great meme against turkey tom.
"It's not my fault"
"It's not your fault"
Then CJ from Gta SA suddenly come out of nowhere just to said “Dont blame me, blame yourself “
If MGSV was allowed to finish, it would have gotten game of the decade.
Well, you can say that for a ton of games. But MGSV especially.
This was part of the real ending part 3? Damn Konami...
"This is Pequod, coming in hot!"
Goes hard
Eli knew that he could change society, so instead of reflecting on himself he blamed the Boss
HEAVEN OR HELL
Liquid- “and I took the personally”
What my grades would say if they can talk:
If this was Naked Snake he would probably paint the ground red with Liquid's face
He really took those words to heart
"That's right. Don't blame yourself. Blame me."
Yourself: MGS Fans
Me: Konami
For firing Kojima, cutting this ending as well as canceling Silent Hills & other projects & giving you MG Survive & Pachislots.
Call me crazy, I cannot imagine David Hayters voice coming out of MGSV Big Boss, like just aesthetically.
I love Hayter's voice, but in GZ and TPP I've come to accept Sutherland's voice. Besides he's pretty good, the casette tapes are pretty fulfilling for me while waiting for developments.
Pretty…good…?
"Father knew what kind of a balance was best!" - Liquid MGS1
i feel the phantom pain
help I can't stop rewatching this
Why couldnt konami and kojima just finish this arc and then they can go on to fo different things.
Because "money"
I'll keep this in my hearth
lol same
I will forever be in anguish knowing we will never see this fully completed.
in a different universe, people got to see this finished...
The shaking camera really sells it
It feels like this was the original direction of the story ending what with the whole emmerich telling venom its his fault for everything.
I think then kojima realised he could make the player feel the phantom pain of the game being "unfinished" and made the truth ending to make us as fans feel we were big boss.
damn a half-mask looks really good on snake
Relevant
is that in the game or what because i finished the game and never saw this
Episode 51, an uncompleted mission. It was featured in the bonus disc.
You literally don't deserve the title of "Big Boss" 🤦♂️ then again i guess thisbcould count as your codec call to ask obvious stuff 😂
@@snowy_sphinx wait so you cant name yourself after a character you liked unless you memorized every single detail down to the number of pubes snake has?
@@tntcake6327 yee
@@tntcake6327 [edit: fixed typos] way to miss the point entirely.
No but its absolutely hilarious to name yourself after someone of that caliber and then not know that the game isn't finished...i wouldn't call the incomplete state of MGS:V a "a single detail down to the number of pubes snake had"...it was kinda a huuge controversial topic and anyone paying attention to the plot might notice it isn't finished...
If you think that is a minute detail maybe you are a bit obtuse for the series 😅
No offense.
But this is literally the equivalent if i named myself "Sherlock Holmes", changed my profile pic, stylized an entire RUclips channel after that theme and then asked "wait..Sherlock Holmes was in a book?"
Dont get me wrong im all for defending strangers on the internet but this is just kinda bizarre to me🤦♂️
Seriously, it's like claiming to be a Mario fan after only ever seeing the live action show and not knowing its a video game series...its well within your right to call yourself a fan..but you better be ready to be made fun of for not knowing the obvious 😂😂😂
Kiefer Southerland must have had like 50 words in the ENTIRE GAME
Even NPC had more scenario then him Xd
He's more talkative on the tapes
@@MinecraftMasterNo1 yeah we get adleast two maybe three "uh huhs"
Kiefer has a ton of recorded dialogue in the game files, it was all just cut for some reason. Likely a change in direction for the character after it was recorded.
@@DangerSquad
they did it cause they know how much people love David
David did something, he wasn't JUST a voice actor
He gave life to a fiictional character
EVERY time he would put ALL of his emotion into the character
He EVEN stated in 1 of his many interviews that he felt connected to the character of SNAKE
He EVEN accepted less money from Konami to KEEP been Snake !!!
Tell me 1 person who would do that right now !
1 person that is THIS connected to a character as david
give a break here man
@@monkeydjimmy5169
I doubt it, if they cared that much they wouldn't have gotten rid of him to begin with.
(And would have at least given him more notice that they were looking for someone else)
It also doesn't make a lot of sense to spend so much money for all these extra lines just to not use them out of a sense of respect
(This is Konami we're talking about lol 😅 , they didn't even respect Kojima, why would they respect Hayter)
My guess is that it would be a mixture of cut content and the story changing
(Maybe even just alternative lines that were later picked from)
Past me talking to present me
cant believe i can relate to an egg
@@xbilly_vedovelli1228 it’s only natural
Damn, I need to play this game again, even though this scene isn’t in it. Wish it was, though.
Thanks Pathfinder
A lesson that need to be taught
If we can get the snyder cut im pretty sure we can get this game remastered with extras scenes and extra gameplay
There is 0 chance in hell of that happening. Konami doesn't want to make games this expensive anymore and cut all ties with Kojima
This dialogue fits well for *Konami.*
"And what ever you do don't blame your brother for stealing everything before you were born."
0:08 - 0:16 How everyone would respond to That Vegan Teacher when she blames every person who exposes her awful actions.
When your team gets mad at you for dying when you're the last one alive.
Moments like this is why I love MGSV
That one line basically sums up every relationship in Liquid's life
7 years later, this game was awesome but it could've been the greatest game ever-and would probably not be surpassed.
The fact that he’s not even a clone of that boss and venom has done nothing but help Eli
Poor Liquid. I wish him and Solid got to an understanding...
This is going in my forum weapons (to surpass Metal Gear) playlist
Alright, will do.
Venom Snake stole all the oranges in New Zealand, sorry to say.
No better story than metal gear solid. So damn deep. I wish they could be remastered
AMAZING, MISSION COMPLETE! That right there is why You're the best, boss. The one and only.
well now i know where that pathfinder quote comes from
What's great is that once you realize that many mgsv moments are a reflection of Kojimas relationship with Konami, you realize that this has a much deeper meaning
The Snake Family being Saiyans: Confirmed
"If you can't survive and thrive on your own as a baby you don't deserve to be my seed."
Don't blame yourself, blame me! Blame the me who blames you!
Don't blame me, blame yourself - Carl Johnson
Me and my friend playing anything
i thought he was miller
That wouldn't be the first time
Something you tell an ex wife when she cheats on you and ends up forever alone for it
This ending would’ve made this game review score: a meter breaker, 2 million over 10
i need context but i guess i should play them all
No need to play, its not in the game
@@pequod6660 hold me boomer, i am sad 🥺
@@syrupman2887 I wish this episode was finished
Bruh venom snake is kinda more badass than big boss though
Reading the title I expected him to mean it genuinely that he takes all the blame, because thats usually what venom does, he takes responsibility for everything and everyone. But I also respect him telling eli how it is and teaching him that he also needs to take responsibility.
Kojima talking to Konami after the unsuccessful metal gear survive followed with pachinko.
What's the name of the music soundtrack ?
Came back as: "Kingdom of the Flies - It's Not Over Yet"
Death fantazy gee
That cutscene is only 30% complete but still amazing
"Yes, blame me: Big Boss."
- Venom Snake.
Me when I'm just playing some average joe who rose to the occasion and the villain pins all the world's faults on me
This 34 second clip is more cutscene then the first half of the game...