Since this video, Russian FPV drone strike has increased so much that it even replaced Artillery to some extent. Many says FPV drones are the next king of the battlefield. But it also shows how ineffective this system really is, contrary to what people in black coats sitting inside AC rooms claim.
Until you invent a machine gun with a f***ing camera on it that tracks and a small radar like I dunno, Sweden, North Korea and Japan has done for last 5 years. Then drones wont be much of an issue, a 12.7mm with proximity charge are real thing and can be mounted on basically any vehicle out there, or carried around by two guys.
You mean Russia? They did reveal it in 2022 and showed a working prototype but it's still in the research phase. It's called Izdeliye 53 or something like this. Never heard of a Ukrainian one, and it's still not in use 7 months later after your comment.
I can 100% guarantee you this is nowhere near the front lines in Ukraine. These things are designed for civilian law enforcement, not war zones. Anything large and stationary emitting a radio signal near the zero line will be destroyed along with its crew. PERIOD.
An autocannon with a fuzed round should easily shoot down lancets and FPV drones. But the APS might not be able to differentiate between an incoming hostile threat, or even just a bird for that matter..
There is nobody from N Ireland in this video. How does someone from N Ireland make that mistake? Stephen Scott, Head of R&D (Defence) at MARSS Group, is Scottish.
USA lost war with Russia 2008 - 2024, 3 - 4 trillion s lost, 35 trillions dept. USD at collaps. German economy at collaps due to NORD STREAM destroyed by USA. Germans has no gas. Who will fund Ukraine war next 3 - 5 yeras ?
I've wondered about low-fi countermeasures when it comes to drones. There have been .22lr machine guns made in the past but didn't have military applications. But I bet a .22 will mess up a drone pretty good. And those guns are light, low recoil, and can dump a lot of rounds downrange. I bet handing 1-2 .22 machine guns per squad could be useful against drone threats
IMHO, the APS system at 0:20 looks to be a Battalion level system; and likewise the MARSS system at about 1:50. APS seemed to NOT have hard-kill capability, only integration capability (ref 0:28). Seems to me that most all 'hard-kill effectors' would already have detection capabilities. The MARSS system looked quite massive at 1:50 but maybe it was actually a scaled up model? But apparently 4 kg and tube-launched, nonetheless. What actually is this? Simply a dart from a 'tube-launched targeting system'? A shotgun would provide dual-service. How about a grande launcher cartridge that shoots out bird shot or flechettes (like an upgraded shot gun)?
I believe the MARSS you're looking at is the non-scaled down version. It was mentioned the infantry MARSS is a scaled down, man-portable variant, which I would presume is the much smaller but identically shaped drone right behind the bigger MARSS
It uses radar therefore it can be detected & it [plus operators] can be destroyed - and will it work undercover? An acoustic & thermal system might be better because it's undetectably passive. Of course you still have the job of neutralising the drone in some way.
@@nightjarflying This is correct. All drones, whether DJI or FPV are constantly transmitting video signal and this is the right way to detect them and target them.
In the near future signal blockers, drone disablers , may be commonly effective. How much money to invest in products that could become near obsolete overnight, like the all electric car ?
Like the electric car? EVs will be the most common cars soon. In 10 years you won't even be able to buy new petrol cars in a lot of countries. Also it depends how effective anti drone signal blockers are Vs costs. If it's cheaper to buy 100 drones only 1 needs to get through to destroy the jammer. No one knows for sure yet either way we will have to see how it plays out in conflicts.
Did you thumb up your own comment? The clips are from the DSEI 23 'show' in London in the middle of September when nobody is wearing a poppy. I go to many defence exhibitions & I see poppies displayed by UK exhibitors in the appropriate month. The best way to prevent a war is to be prepared for war. Incidentally the "moguls" rarely go to such shows, they are elsewhere closing the deals that such shows generate.
@@nightjarflying No i didn't. You do know when you like your own comments on yt it doesn't actually show up for other people. You don't have a clue about how things on the internet work do you. And woth 0 context to when this was filmed how is one supposed to assume it wasn't an event that happened today or yesterday. Carry on being mad and angry you salty lil pepper.
@@BarghestOne You are incorrect about thumbs up so I guess, by your standard, it's YOU who doesn't "have a clue about how things work on the internet." None of what I've written exhibits "being mad and angry" so it's likely you are projecting your emotions onto me. BTW you have misspelled "light bearer" [Lucifer] as "lightbarer" [nothing] - I guess that was back in your beardless days a decade ago before you became a lupine shapeshifter in your head. LOL
That isn't how drones are being used right now and it isn't like drone operators are invincible to aircraft or infantry. By the time swarm tactics get adopted and sub-par militaries get enough drones to use such tactics, there's going to be even better systems developed and in use. Hell, even shotguns and laser weapon systems or autocannons firing airburst and proximity fuse rounds can work.
@brightdaygaming5692 it looks faster and more agile than it's targets, so that might be tricky. Furthermore, it means that autonomous quadcoters are unlikely to be deployed, since giving them the degree of situational awareness required to dodge those thing would be expensive - only teleoperrated drones would stay viable. It can always turn around and take another try - it's not like a rocket-propelled missile where if you miss once, that's it. It uses the same power source as a typical quadcopter, but would be used defensively rather than offensively - so it's likely to be able to stay above the combat zone longer than its targets. Even if it doesn't score a kill after many tires, a drone operator having to keep directing the drone to stay out of the way of the that thing will not be able to complete the mission. It would have "supreasive" effect, even if it does not have destructive effect.
@@Retrosicotte really.. i fly dji's i have both the mini and the mavic pro and have both my drones and my self registered with the caa, so you may want to take youre silly little assumptions elsewhere. i base my comment on that in ukraine they have shot tracked rockets already at them and due to the size/speed and air conditions like turbulence its hard to hit them in a real world scenario and it seems like there should be a better way like breaking the signal from operator to the drone or like the australian system the slinger. the cost effectiveness of this system doesnt compete with others the likes of the slinger. that is why it already seems outdated. not that you believe i have never flown a drone.
UK needs to stop funding the war and divert that money into infrastructure built up when likes of China, Japan and South Korea boasts of bullet train when majority of English population haven't even seen one in their lifetime. Russia has already annexed Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia oblasts and UK and NATO is fighting a loosing battle. I see Afghanistan episode again with trillions lost in the time of 20 years.
No we need to fund our defence. If we are weak then the likes of PooTin and Chairman Chink will take liberties. Who gives a flying Fig about a bullet train. 🛎 End.
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Fascinating that the target dornes are so kind to hold still and await the impact.
Since this video, Russian FPV drone strike has increased so much that it even replaced Artillery to some extent. Many says FPV drones are the next king of the battlefield. But it also shows how ineffective this system really is, contrary to what people in black coats sitting inside AC rooms claim.
Until you invent a machine gun with a f***ing camera on it that tracks and a small radar like I dunno, Sweden, North Korea and Japan has done for last 5 years.
Then drones wont be much of an issue, a 12.7mm with proximity charge are real thing and can be mounted on basically any vehicle out there, or carried around by two guys.
Welp… Ukraine just came out with drones that beat the jammers with offline AI targeting, the drone weapons race is getting interesting
You mean Russia? They did reveal it in 2022 and showed a working prototype but it's still in the research phase. It's called Izdeliye 53 or something like this. Never heard of a Ukrainian one, and it's still not in use 7 months later after your comment.
@ I pray for you guys that one day you get rid of Putin and become a good country again. I hope you are well when all this is over friend.
@@mrbaywatch21 you mean nato controled putin
It looks like Johnny 5
I can 100% guarantee you this is nowhere near the front lines in Ukraine. These things are designed for civilian law enforcement, not war zones. Anything large and stationary emitting a radio signal near the zero line will be destroyed along with its crew. PERIOD.
An autocannon with a fuzed round should easily shoot down lancets and FPV drones.
But the APS might not be able to differentiate between an incoming hostile threat, or even just a bird for that matter..
Quite proud to see some Northern Irish people in these videos!
There is nobody from N Ireland in this video. How does someone from N Ireland make that mistake? Stephen Scott,
Head of R&D (Defence) at MARSS Group, is Scottish.
USA lost war with Russia 2008 - 2024, 3 - 4 trillion s lost, 35 trillions dept. USD at collaps. German economy at collaps due to NORD STREAM destroyed by USA. Germans has no gas. Who will fund Ukraine war next 3 - 5 yeras ?
The optics look like Johnny 5 😅 Put it on a small tank tread base!
My thoughts mate 'Johnny 5'
Me to 😂
Johnny 5 is being sent to battle!!!😂
Johnny Number 5..... is Alive!
Ukraine needs that
It is a Polish designed and built system and it has been used in Ukraine. She even said so in the video.
Sounds like you didn't even try to watch the video.
APs radar designed to look like Jonny 5, or is that just me ?!😅
Now test it on a drone that is high performing and actually doing something other than hovering in place waiting to be detected / hit.
Outstanding for Freedom 😊
Oh my God Johnny 5 what have they done to you....
When the efficiency is "90%" but the enemy drone costs
I've wondered about low-fi countermeasures when it comes to drones. There have been .22lr machine guns made in the past but didn't have military applications. But I bet a .22 will mess up a drone pretty good. And those guns are light, low recoil, and can dump a lot of rounds downrange. I bet handing 1-2 .22 machine guns per squad could be useful against drone threats
The only downside is that hitting a small FPV drone that's flying towards you at +50mph is pretty difficult. Not impossible though
@@astroinfinland6680 yeah those kamikaze drones can’t really be intercepted like that.
@@FreddyRangel85 For Mavics and such that could actually work
So just like the L-MADIS & Coyote 2 interceptor drone, Silver Fox.
Where is this guys location?putin ask!
IMHO, the APS system at 0:20 looks to be a Battalion level system; and likewise the MARSS system at about 1:50.
APS seemed to NOT have hard-kill capability, only integration capability (ref 0:28). Seems to me that most all 'hard-kill effectors' would already have detection capabilities.
The MARSS system looked quite massive at 1:50 but maybe it was actually a scaled up model? But apparently 4 kg and tube-launched, nonetheless. What actually is this? Simply a dart from a 'tube-launched targeting system'? A shotgun would provide dual-service.
How about a grande launcher cartridge that shoots out bird shot or flechettes (like an upgraded shot gun)?
I believe the MARSS you're looking at is the non-scaled down version. It was mentioned the infantry MARSS is a scaled down, man-portable variant, which I would presume is the much smaller but identically shaped drone right behind the bigger MARSS
Arun Arumugam
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i am not top flapping that interceptor drone
johnny 5? is that you in the thumbnail?
Is it me or does it look like the robot from short circuit?
Hi, it all sounds like good news for some. But (there is always a but!) can the system tel “Friend from Foe?
Johnny 5 is a LIVE
This thing looks like Johnny 5
was that a BAE dig at the end?
😂😂😂
Thats nothing compared to Weibel radars.
Is APS a British company? Just wondering
Whats rhe catch? You would think these seriously would change the game but whats the catch ?
It uses radar therefore it can be detected & it [plus operators] can be destroyed - and will it work undercover? An acoustic & thermal system might be better because it's undetectably passive. Of course you still have the job of neutralising the drone in some way.
@@nightjarflying This is correct. All drones, whether DJI or FPV are constantly transmitting video signal and this is the right way to detect them and target them.
In the near future signal blockers, drone disablers , may be commonly effective. How much money to invest in products that could become near obsolete overnight, like the all electric car ?
Like the electric car? EVs will be the most common cars soon. In 10 years you won't even be able to buy new petrol cars in a lot of countries. Also it depends how effective anti drone signal blockers are Vs costs. If it's cheaper to buy 100 drones only 1 needs to get through to destroy the jammer. No one knows for sure yet either way we will have to see how it plays out in conflicts.
Overcomplicated and expensive. The Russian Nova Labs has a simpler, cheaper, and faster-resposne system!
Amazing
Defence moguls don't like wearing poppies do they??
Did you thumb up your own comment? The clips are from the DSEI 23 'show' in London in the middle of September when nobody is wearing a poppy. I go to many defence exhibitions & I see poppies displayed by UK exhibitors in the appropriate month. The best way to prevent a war is to be prepared for war. Incidentally the "moguls" rarely go to such shows, they are elsewhere closing the deals that such shows generate.
@@nightjarflying No i didn't. You do know when you like your own comments on yt it doesn't actually show up for other people. You don't have a clue about how things on the internet work do you. And woth 0 context to when this was filmed how is one supposed to assume it wasn't an event that happened today or yesterday. Carry on being mad and angry you salty lil pepper.
@@BarghestOne You are incorrect about thumbs up so I guess, by your standard, it's YOU who doesn't "have a clue about how things work on the internet." None of what I've written exhibits "being mad and angry" so it's likely you are projecting your emotions onto me. BTW you have misspelled "light bearer" [Lucifer] as "lightbarer" [nothing] - I guess that was back in your beardless days a decade ago before you became a lupine shapeshifter in your head. LOL
Johnny 5 is alive
Sorry, if you've put a radar in a field, emitting a signal, everybody and their mum will know precisely where it is. It's a dumb idea.
90%? Hmm. We'll see.
Johnny 5 stay alive!
All these are Anduril copies.
This is a good rating, but Ukraine need 100% rating.
Look johnny 5 from short circuit 😅
Potatoe gun. First Defence. Make one. Also known as a utility gun!
Can this machine stops 10 drones at the same time?
That isn't how drones are being used right now and it isn't like drone operators are invincible to aircraft or infantry. By the time swarm tactics get adopted and sub-par militaries get enough drones to use such tactics, there's going to be even better systems developed and in use. Hell, even shotguns and laser weapon systems or autocannons firing airburst and proximity fuse rounds can work.
So it can be countered with 10 drones?
Keep developing
Incorrect. 90% successful means across individual encounters of varying types.
Thank you for the correction. I misunderstood.@@Retrosicotte
Lancet 3
Useless
sure . . . . 😂😂😂😂
No use in war, even I can see this 👎
so... the drone only has to move out of the way.
Nope. Guided.
@@Retrosicotte it kinda seems outdated already imo
@brightdaygaming5692 it looks faster and more agile than it's targets, so that might be tricky. Furthermore, it means that autonomous quadcoters are unlikely to be deployed, since giving them the degree of situational awareness required to dodge those thing would be expensive - only teleoperrated drones would stay viable. It can always turn around and take another try - it's not like a rocket-propelled missile where if you miss once, that's it. It uses the same power source as a typical quadcopter, but would be used defensively rather than offensively - so it's likely to be able to stay above the combat zone longer than its targets. Even if it doesn't score a kill after many tires, a drone operator having to keep directing the drone to stay out of the way of the that thing will not be able to complete the mission. It would have "supreasive" effect, even if it does not have destructive effect.
@@brightdaygaming5692 If it seems that then you clearly havent' ever flown a drone in that environment.
@@Retrosicotte really.. i fly dji's i have both the mini and the mavic pro and have both my drones and my self registered with the caa, so you may want to take youre silly little assumptions elsewhere. i base my comment on that in ukraine they have shot tracked rockets already at them and due to the size/speed and air conditions like turbulence its hard to hit them in a real world scenario and it seems like there should be a better way like breaking the signal from operator to the drone or like the australian system the slinger. the cost effectiveness of this system doesnt compete with others the likes of the slinger. that is why it already seems outdated. not that you believe i have never flown a drone.
FAKE.
Hey bozo
UK needs to stop funding the war and divert that money into infrastructure built up when likes of China, Japan and South Korea boasts of bullet train when majority of English population haven't even seen one in their lifetime. Russia has already annexed Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia oblasts and UK and NATO is fighting a loosing battle. I see Afghanistan episode again with trillions lost in the time of 20 years.
No we need to fund our defence. If we are weak then the likes of PooTin and Chairman Chink will take liberties. Who gives a flying Fig about a bullet train. 🛎 End.
The English population will hardly exist in 20 years time. They are dying out fast - replacement/displacement rates are astonishing.
Aps is Polish company
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