Nate and Pete, I love watching videos of you guys race. As a bigger guy myself I like seeing what tactics you use and want to use those to help myself, it's pretty darn inspirational. Keep em coming!
Loves these videos. I’m a bigger rider with a decent FTP and it’s my lack of race experience that is normally my undoing. These break it down perfect! Thanks guys
Love the breakdown. Trainerroad subscriber, and swear by its abilities. This just helps when we get on to the track. I raced tonight in Austin at the Driveway Series, and then coming home and watching this is like keeping me in the groove... It is jamming! Keep this up.
I remember watching a video last year and wondering why pro races don't have something similar. What a great way to watch/listen/learn about racing and riding.
I think the reason why professional cycling as a spectator sport isn't as popular as us cycling fans hope it could be is that you really have to have videos like this explaining the intricacies of the "moves" that pro-cyclists make during the race, but people rarely can make these explanations interesting. TrainerRoad guys are really doing a fantastic job!
Nice vid. Makes me want to race road....ambient sound level and the amount of commentary is perfect! Would luv to see cadence, too. Maybe even gear selection.
Clarification: I'm not a racer. But shouldn't you try to soft pedal at least during some of these descents? Especially if you can put out like 30-40% FTP, maybe even just 50W on a manageable cadence. It shouldn't be more tiring than freewheeling and from what I remember helps reducing lactate buildup. I bet Coach Chad himself might list some of the benefits. Clarification 2: Can't tell if you'd have spun out on these occasions.
Thanks for the suggestion! While we don't have plans to add more metrics currently, this could be a useful addition for footage of really hilly events. We really want to avoid over-crowding the screen with non-essential data, but we'll keep it in mind!
what was up with the guy who just beat you swerving across your line right before the finish? Looks like he was looking back right before he did that,.
Hi Bradley, when I watched this I wondered the same thing. After looking back, I knew I had some space so I put my head down and must have sacrificed a little bit of control for any additional power I could muster up. Also, every stroke of the pedal felt like a punch to the gut at the end there, so it was probably just sloppiness on my part. I guarantee I had no intention to impede Nate's line. Hopefully it's not interpreted that way.
For some context, Nate is a 'big' guy at 6'6", so heavy rider refers more to your build and stature than a number. We'd hate to throw a number out there that perpetuated body-negativity when every rider is built so differently! ;)
@@TrainerRoad wow Nate is 6’6”??? Only seen him seated in podcasts, doesn’t come across as 6’6”, so the “heavy rider” makes sense now. I’m also 183, so get the heavy label as I get that a lot also.
Sag climbing is when a rider starts at the front of the pack, but slowly drifts backwards over the course of a climb. This allows the rider to have an effectively slower time up the hill, but still remain in contact with the group.
Is there a reason you coast downhill? I mean, above say 40mph or so I guess, but I always at least soft pedal through rollers, not on the gas but just a little pressure, and always find I keep my momentum going a lot better. Also 198cm and starting to get fairly lean at 100kg, so that momentum at the bottom of a hill is kinda important. Of course, if you get stuck behind someone then it sucks...
Matthew Jenkinson in this race I was coasting into the back of the field and hitting the brakes, so no reason to pedal (except for the final downhill 😢)
good content but you guys are the most monotone, boring sounding talkers ive ever heard. maybe write down your thoughts and have someone more competent deliver the content.
I watch quite a few of these Cali races and enjoy them except for the excessive commentary. Reminds me of a NBC golf telecast Dan Hicks or someone similar who just never shuts the fuck up. Yea, you're riding, not brain surgery, yea you're going down catching a draft and moving up; ok again pretty common, nearly everyone on the road knows about. I mean I'm stuck in a Midwest winter and want to watch riders. Watch the beautiful scenery the sound of the wheels, maybe road conversations, AND some pertinent insightful commentary (maybe 1/5 of what you're presenting). Let the ride speak. Let the numbers speak. let your performance speak. I remember watching Sagan destroy the field in paris roubaix. I mean he broke away from the pack gapped up to the break-away and kept a constant speed of 30MPH all the way in!! No need for commentary. You're talking about saving an ounce of breath here and there like it's life saving were it's all pretty meaningless. Save your voice and get stronger legs; breakaway for 10 miles then come back and blab all day Hey; besides all my bitching keep up the good work :)
Thanks so much for sharing your feedback! We agree that there are probably better videos for mid-ride entertainment/ motivation out there on RUclips, but our goal is to provide actionable takeaways that our viewers can then apply during their races. The commentary is designed to explain each and every choice we make to help our viewers develop a better "intuition" and help them to read their races more successfully. If you'd like to cut out the commentary, watching the rides on mute could be the ticket :)
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Nate and Pete, I love watching videos of you guys race. As a bigger guy myself I like seeing what tactics you use and want to use those to help myself, it's pretty darn inspirational. Keep em coming!
We're so glad you're liking this format :) We'll keep them coming!
More vids like these! I somewhat prefer shorter videos with a specific focus like this one. Don't stop!
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching :)
Great breakdown. That turkey running across the road at 12:15 right as you guys are heading into the final push seemed really close.
Totally, that made me wince
That's what it was? Yeah that was huge and close.
I really enjoyed your reflections, Nate, and liked Pete's analysis. Good job on placing.
We're so glad you liked it! Thanks for watching :)
Loves these videos. I’m a bigger rider with a decent FTP and it’s my lack of race experience that is normally my undoing. These break it down perfect! Thanks guys
So glad that you're finding them helpful! Thanks for watching :)
Love the breakdown. Trainerroad subscriber, and swear by its abilities. This just helps when we get on to the track. I raced tonight in Austin at the Driveway Series, and then coming home and watching this is like keeping me in the groove... It is jamming! Keep this up.
We're glad you like this format! We'll keep them coming :)
I've recently just found these videos - they are superb...thanks!
Welcome!! So glad you like this format :)
So cool it makes me want to race my bike ! Learning so much from the commentary and the on board cameras are the nuts. Addictive !
Thanks for watching!
Man, it;s great seeing these races! Thank you very much for bringing it online. Much appreciated from a casual cyclist.
We're happy to help! Thanks for watching!
Soooo close !!!!! I bet you spent the next 5 nights replaying this over in your head!! Unlucky Nate!
listening kudos to the rider who beat me. I should have gone harder!
Awesome effort! I can't imagine putting out that kind of effort at the end there.
Digging the race breakdowns
We're so glad! Thanks for watching :)
"you learn a lot when you lose right?..... Maybe next time" lol
Loved this video and the comments
Glad you liked it!!
Ur def the strongest in the race. So keep the tacticts tight, and you will win every time
I remember watching a video last year and wondering why pro races don't have something similar. What a great way to watch/listen/learn about racing and riding.
Thanks for watching, Tony!
This is the ONLY channel I like the vid before it even starts
Really enjoying watching these, keep it up 👍👍
So glad you're liking this format! Thanks for watching :)
at nearly 190lbs, yikes, good on ya' just for showing up for this kind of race.
Exactly!
These are awesome Nate and Pete, thanks for sharing this.
We're glad you like this format :) Thanks for watching!
Just loving your videos analyzing these races!
That's so great to hear! Thanks for watching :)
These videos are awesome. going to do them myself when racing starts in sweden :D keep the good job ut guys!
I think the reason why professional cycling as a spectator sport isn't as popular as us cycling fans hope it could be is that you really have to have videos like this explaining the intricacies of the "moves" that pro-cyclists make during the race, but people rarely can make these explanations interesting. TrainerRoad guys are really doing a fantastic job!
Thanks so much!
Nice vid. Makes me want to race road....ambient sound level and the amount of commentary is perfect! Would luv to see cadence, too. Maybe even gear selection.
You should give it a shot! Once you get started it's hard to stop :)
Public lectures for amateur racers. Such good content!
Thanks for watching :)
You guys provide such good info. Definitely want to see more of these videos. Keep it up guys
There's more racing on the horizon so stay tuned!!
LOVE these videos!! Thanks for sharing your race experience.
We're stoked that you found it useful! Thanks for watching :)
Great content, guys! Thanks for the analysis! I always learn a lot.
Thanks for watching, we really want these to be helpful!!
Love these videos!!
Awesome videos, learning a lot about tactics and smart riding .
That's so great to hear, thanks for tuning in!
Love it! Thank you
solid dig at the end to close the gap.
Thanks, Nick!
Good stuff gents! I learn so much watching m. Thank u
Clarification: I'm not a racer.
But shouldn't you try to soft pedal at least during some of these descents? Especially if you can put out like 30-40% FTP, maybe even just 50W on a manageable cadence. It shouldn't be more tiring than freewheeling and from what I remember helps reducing lactate buildup. I bet Coach Chad himself might list some of the benefits.
Clarification 2: Can't tell if you'd have spun out on these occasions.
Nice road.very interested
what a beautiful course!!!
Indeed!
Wow. Nate stronk.
good race
Is this what you would classify as a rolling road race such as the workout plans?
Need more videos these things are the best 🤣
More videos are in the works!
Would of loved to see your cadence while climbing
Great video! It would be great to include the %gradient in the metrics display.
Thanks for the suggestion! While we don't have plans to add more metrics currently, this could be a useful addition for footage of really hilly events. We really want to avoid over-crowding the screen with non-essential data, but we'll keep it in mind!
Good video
OK, what was that crossing the road at 12:15?
Jesse Dishner a turkey!
what was up with the guy who just beat you swerving across your line right before the finish? Looks like he was looking back right before he did that,.
Hi Bradley, when I watched this I wondered the same thing. After looking back, I knew I had some space so I put my head down and must have sacrificed a little bit of control for any additional power I could muster up. Also, every stroke of the pedal felt like a punch to the gut at the end there, so it was probably just sloppiness on my part. I guarantee I had no intention to impede Nate's line. Hopefully it's not interpreted that way.
BTW..why would someone give this video a thumbs down?
Haters gonna hate
Is this granite Bay?
This was the Winchester 4/5 Circuit Race right near Clipper Gap/Applegate area.
12:32 = Heartbreaking :(
gooblegobble it’s hard to watch
@@TrainerRoad No doubt! But you get a do-over at the next hilly one :)
Very cool. What kind of camera/software are you using to get your data on the video like that?
We're using GoPro cameras and Garmin devices to capture the data.
I think I learned more from this than if you won
Red I’m glad I could help 😜 -Nate
This is literally me everyday.
NIce camera view..! w
Which camera do you use..? Can you use it for livestream..?
Donald Smith GoPro hero 7 black. Yes, I think you can live stream with it.
So Nate just what is your weight for this race? Just curious what you guys consider “a heavy rider”.
For some context, Nate is a 'big' guy at 6'6", so heavy rider refers more to your build and stature than a number. We'd hate to throw a number out there that perpetuated body-negativity when every rider is built so differently! ;)
@@TrainerRoad wow Nate is 6’6”??? Only seen him seated in podcasts, doesn’t come across as 6’6”, so the “heavy rider” makes sense now. I’m also 183, so get the heavy label as I get that a lot also.
What’s SAG climbing?
Sag climbing is when a rider starts at the front of the pack, but slowly drifts backwards over the course of a climb. This allows the rider to have an effectively slower time up the hill, but still remain in contact with the group.
@@TrainerRoad understood, thanks
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Newton's Second Law - all objects (regardless of their mass) free fall with the same acceleration - 9.8 m/s/s
Not when air is involved. Read - terminal velocity.
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Is there a reason you coast downhill? I mean, above say 40mph or so I guess, but I always at least soft pedal through rollers, not on the gas but just a little pressure, and always find I keep my momentum going a lot better. Also 198cm and starting to get fairly lean at 100kg, so that momentum at the bottom of a hill is kinda important.
Of course, if you get stuck behind someone then it sucks...
Matthew Jenkinson in this race I was coasting into the back of the field and hitting the brakes, so no reason to pedal (except for the final downhill 😢)
@@TrainerRoad Yeah, that makes sense.
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10:33 Sasquatch mating call
😂😂😂
every guy looks like a line backer
Can we get the opposite to this? lol aka how to ride a hilly race as a smaller rider
Thanks for the suggestion! We'll keep this idea in mind as we look for new video concepts.
"so heavy" at 188lbs 😂
good content but you guys are the most monotone, boring sounding talkers ive ever heard. maybe write down your thoughts and have someone more competent deliver the content.
I watch quite a few of these Cali races and enjoy them except for the excessive commentary. Reminds me of a NBC golf telecast Dan Hicks or someone similar who just never shuts the fuck up. Yea, you're riding, not brain surgery, yea you're going down catching a draft and moving up; ok again pretty common, nearly everyone on the road knows about.
I mean I'm stuck in a Midwest winter and want to watch riders. Watch the beautiful scenery the sound of the wheels, maybe road conversations, AND some pertinent insightful commentary (maybe 1/5 of what you're presenting).
Let the ride speak. Let the numbers speak. let your performance speak.
I remember watching Sagan destroy the field in paris roubaix. I mean he broke away from the pack gapped up to the break-away and kept a constant speed of 30MPH all the way in!! No need for commentary. You're talking about saving an ounce of breath here and there like it's life saving were it's all pretty meaningless. Save your voice and get stronger legs; breakaway for 10 miles then come back and blab all day
Hey; besides all my bitching keep up the good work :)
Thanks so much for sharing your feedback!
We agree that there are probably better videos for mid-ride entertainment/ motivation out there on RUclips, but our goal is to provide actionable takeaways that our viewers can then apply during their races. The commentary is designed to explain each and every choice we make to help our viewers develop a better "intuition" and help them to read their races more successfully. If you'd like to cut out the commentary, watching the rides on mute could be the ticket :)