Who the gives a dam about Dukes? You are all foreigners anyway. The only royals worth anything in Britain are the Earls, but thanks to Jimmy Seville your secrets out and the pitchforks and torches are on their way.
Free Energy Education International The five titles of the peerage, in descending order of precedence, or rank, are: duke, marquess, earl, viscount, baron. The highest rank of the peerage, duke, is the most exclusive.
I love how the Duke’s daughter attending the Queen at her coronation had to hurry home for her mom’s barbecue, lol. As an American I can relate a little!
Mother was roasting an Ox "for Woodstock". That's the village. So there was a village celebration and the Duke and Duchess were expected to provide the venue and the Ox. This is a feudal idea called "Noblesse oblige". The great family was responsible to their villagers. In return, the villages would have fought for the Duke.
"She went to Paris for a weekend and dropped dead" LOL! She said it so nonchalantly that it made me laugh. I respect that old woman for ensuring that her granddaughter would be able to live comfortably for the rest of her life. Mothers and Grandmothers always think about the future of their children.
“The marriage ran into difficulties.” Love how British people manage to make everything sound so posh. Very interesting documentary and great questions by the host!
@@eleanorweaverley1105 we've really assigned them this posh label because they shoved it down our face as former colonies that that is who they are and we ate that shit up while simultaneously believing we were not as classy
@@melonie_peppers Your ridiculous assumptions are the problem,anynone can be classy,don't spread hate when you don't have the slightest insight on what happens inside
@@eleanorweaverley1105 @@eleanorweaverley1105 it's not assumption. Erasing culture and assuming barbaric behavior was an essential part of the colonial project. How else would I be speaking English rn if they hadn't forced it down my throat and to my ancestors for the past 400 years. How else did they manage for so long to convince Africans their hair was unseemly. You think those black women in the 20 with permed hair did that because they wanted to or there was a larger influence at hand? I advise you to do your research on the colonial project in Africa all the way from Age of Exploration. That is what I mean when I say they managed to convince everyone else they not classy. What hate did i spread? You mean the truth?
This is only my opinion. I'm not forcing it on anybody, but I think he could have found something, anything, to focus his life on. He could've done charity work, or become the patron of a sports club, or a college, or a school, or a religious institution. He could've become an athlete, join the military, start a men's club, help the poor in the British colonies, maybe start a school for them. I mean, the world was his oyster, especially since money wasn't an issue. If Helen Keller had found a purpose, then it's not impossible for him. Of course, I don't know all the details of his life, so I'm not trying to judge him, but this makes me sad and angry at the same time. Seriously? You couldn't find anything you could focus your life on?
@@krdiaz8026 I totally agree with you. There are SO MANY things to focus on. Just visit a poor country and you will be so thankful for your blessings. If you don’t have any mental health issues then you will probably be very happy to just be alive with all the privileges their lives had. But, I guess some people just focus on their negatives.
Sometimes the self-awareness that people need to create meaning in life is created under stressful conditions, and perhaps the right conditions for growth were not present in his life
@@krdiaz8026 i believe he could even focus on something less obvious/noble, he could just have a hobby, he could collect stamps for what's worth it, it would have been a purpose
@@ejohnson3131 There's an old Afrikaans movie which, strangely enough, has a similar storyline. The movie is called "Lord Oom Piet". "Oom" being an Afrikaans title comparable so something between sir and uncle. The movie is about an Afrikaans farmer (Boer) who is tracked down as being the heir to a Lordship in England (in a similarly convoluted manner to this case). The problem is (in the movie), the "Oom" hates the English with a typical Afrikaner passion (Many Afrikaners resented, and some still do, the English after the two Sout-African (Boer) wars. So this Oom tries to avoid becoming the lord, and the only way he can do it is by exploiting an old Royal decree given to one of his forefathers that said that if he were to lose another jousting tournament he would have to forfeit the title. The movie then continues about how he has to enlist the help of his bitter political rival, an English nobleman also living near the same town, to host a jousting tournament so that he can lose it and be freed of the lordship. It's a really funny movie, but if I remember correctly it's mostly in Afrikaans. www.imdb.com/title/tt0367985/fullcredits af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_oom_Piet
"I'm here because of an accident of birth, and I didn't actually do anything to deserve this huge privilege that I have." As an American, I'm really heartened by his expressed self-awareness. In the US, we may not have titles of nobility, but we have our share of people born into wealth and privilege -- recognizing my own fortunate circumstance, of course. We can't justifiably demand anyone give up what family and circumstance has blessed them with, but self-awareness of the kind expressed by the duke would still be welcome.
@@Qrtuop Really? My husband and I have earned a good living and have saved a nice inheritance for our children. It’s our gift to them and you don’t get to just come and take it because you don’t have the same. We worked hard, and my parents worked hard and you have zero right to it on the grounds you have decided it’s a “moral right”.
The lady of the yellow castle seems like she really loves the business side of it and taking care of her inheritance. Also the first lady was really interesting, it will be amazing to see old royals walk through their palaces and tell all those stories about childhood and teenage years.
The daughter of the Duke of Leads is so nice to listen to. I like her sensitive and realistic way of describing the various scenarios in the lives of she and her father. Money isn't everything.
@@samanthab1923 Its kind of like saving the memories/images of past generations so they dont get forgotten, since the portrait would be the only "photograph" of them at the time. Frames are easily rebought with all the cash lol
The Duke of Atholl is such a lovely person! He just seems like a solid guy who truly understands how blessed he is. And the moment when we learned that they really don’t wear anything under their kilt had me laughing so hard!
@@jeffmorse645 thank you. Yes we are a happy bunch and we play amazing rugby. My adult sons who have gone to live in their patriarchal England were so conflicted which side to support in the 2019 world cup final 😂🇿🇦
@@alexandrepasteur7636 I agree. He and his family seem to have their heads in the right place. He was justly proud and happy that the ductal property was taken care of so that he wouldn't have to administer it.
Respect? #RoyalParasite He starts off lying when he says (whimpers): you can't abdicate from being a Duke, as you obviously CAN voluntarily resign your privilege, he's clearly pandering, whining and moaning
The thing that interests me most about Dukes and Royals is their proximity to so much history! What a joy to see so much of it an to have access to archives and architecture.
It's always funny to watch those genealogy shows when someone is descended from someone related to royals. Once that connection is made they can trace them back hundreds of years because the connections are so well-recorded.
I'm surprised a 400 year old historical robe is just hung in a garment bag. His wife's robe too. Very beautiful items. I've seen modern wedding dresses with better preservation. The family seems very nice and humble. I hope the robes don't deteriorate.
I nearly died when I saw that! Couldn't believe it! I wish they'd lend them out or donate them to a museum so they can be restored and properly cared for. Pieces of history left to rot in the attic with no temp control? Omg.....
@@r.mcbride2837 IKR? Maybe they can ask the Queen. Or donate them to the conservatory that takes care of historical clothing😩. I almost cried when she said “I hope the moths haven’t gotten to them”.
Well I assume she is not malicious she has a totally tone deaf entitlement. Maybe it is just because I am American but hearing rich people complain and suffer is tedious
Shit happens , all the time . There are many children being abandoned today all over the world. I can not feel sorry for someone who has never made a handle in his entire life.
@@lila2986 How many girls do you think grew up without a father, in Indonesia 1946 - 1954, Korea 1950-1953, coup in Iran 1953 .Laos 1953-1975, Guatemala 1954, Lebanon blue bat 1958, invasion of pigs bay 1961, Vietnam 1964-1975, Dominican Republic 1965-1966, South African border war 1965- 1989. Nanchahuazu 1966-1967, Cambodia 1970-1975, Angola 1975-2002, Hmong conflict Laos 1975-2007, Cambodia 1977-1991, Lebanon 1982-1984. Greneda 1983. Libya1987 - 1988 .Panama 1989 - 1990, Gulf Wars 1990 -1991. operation gothic snake 1993. Bosnia 1994-1995 Iraq dessert for 1998, Kosovo 1998-1999. 2001- 2021 Afghanistan, Iraq 2003-2011. Lisbon 2011. and how is your compassion for those girls. there are millions of those who have lost their father, because they have been killed by American soldiers?
I think the SOuth African duke is the embodiment of humility and respect for tradition, without the negative stereotypes of privilege and arrogance. Probably wouldn’t be such a stigma against the nobility if they all acted like that
I love that the sons of the current Duke of Atholl say they're not sorry they don't live in the castle, that they are proud to be [South] African, and always will be, but that they have Scottish heritage as well, so they have the best of both worlds. Good attitude.
"We are real soldiers. In theory we could gather the men and go to war... but idk how effective we would be" lmao.. Imagine gathering your group of friends after a night out in pubs, recruiting them into your army, then marching on London.
Happens in the U.S.A. with our private ‘militias’. They are actually legal, private standing armies as allowed by our constitution ( that may change, however ).
@@larrym2434 Private militias have been formed by individuals in America since the colonial period. ... Approximately half the states maintain laws regulating private militias. Generally, these laws prohibit the parading and exercising of armed private militias in public, but do not forbid the formation of private militias.
Imagine you were born and raised in a grand castle like this - and decades later you enter it again, as a visitor among visitors. Your family home has turned into a museum... my heart would bleed, so many memories and so much change in one lifetime...
Fascinating and kind of sad, to me. Being a lover of history, I adore all these sorts of things and hate to see it all pass away, much of it left to just deteriorate quietly.
😂😂😂 ...same thought! Probably that's why he was asked the question about the portrait with the falcon, ...to have the poor man finally answering to something! 😂 Perhaps she took the control of the interview because she knew he's barely understandable. I'm not English mother tongue, and I had to listen to him again and again to catch a word he said 🙄
Lady Rosemary Spencer-Churchill is, as her name suggests, related to both Lady Diana Spencer and Winston Churchill. So you can tell without meeting her that she is going to be a class act! I believe that she is also distantly related to the Vanderbilts, too.
I appreciate that this makes it obvious that the aristocracy takes their responsibility to the people who live on and near their estate seriously, like the Duke's daughter not being able to stay in London after the royal wedding because she had to help with the celebration barbecue at their family palace. It's also nice that the Duke of Atholl appreciates his position so much. It would be so hard to manage a palace and dukedom without being brought up to do it.
The Duchess of St Albans, 27:39 - 33:12 took over the interview. Despite her assertions that they don't mind not having to live like a Duke and Duchess, you can sense that she'd rather be living lavishly with the title and all the accoutrements that come with it.
Fascinating and kind of sad, to me. Being a lover of history, I adore all these sorts of things and hate to see it all pass away, much of it left to just deteriorate quietly.
The beautiful castles need to be restored and opened up to the public. The titles and air of self-importance and superiority should go. It's time. We are in the 21st century!
@wings of a butterfly the only real reason a ruling class has stayed in power is their control over the means of production and/or the military strength required to suppress everyone else. Nothing to do with being more able to lead.
Fascinating and kind of sad, to me. Being a lover of history, I adore all these sorts of things and hate to see it all pass away, much of it left to just deteriorate quietly.
I’m particularly interested in the story of the Dukes of St. Albans. I think that it’s important to investigate the nature of the mental illness that has plagued the family. But the current Earl is lovely and I think he will make a very good Duke when his time comes.
Personally, I found Lady Camilla Osborne to be such a nice, decent and intelligent (reflective) human being, with her feet firmly on the ground and a good sense of humour, which is incredibly useful when you have suffered a lot. I know my opinion is of absolutely no importance (before I am "attacked" by anyone reading this who has a different opinion) but I was genuinely touched by the little she shared about her life history and I liked her impish pleasure at being seated on the right at Christies. I had the feeling you could have a really good evening in her company. I'm just a pleb BTW.
"Rosie, dear, do remember to come straight home after the Queen's coronation. Spit spot. The roasting of the ox is taking place, and we need you to cut ." --- "Of course, mummy."
@@ajantsmith6139 to boast with her farmous relatives. There are lots and lots of ppl out there who'd take every opportunity to do so to make themselves more interesting than they (maybe) are and I hate those. She didn't, bcs (I think) she knew that a reference to her far more famous cousin wouldn't add anything of substance to the current conversation, which makes her way more likeable. It makes her stand out as her own person and not just a relative of someone more famous.
I didn't know that. Maybe it's common knowledge with Brits but I think this topic interests a lot of non-Brits too and there are probably others watching this
Momera it is certainly an interesting connection, but considering that the British nobility are responsible for a good chunk of the historical events of the last 300 years or so, and that they’re all at least somewhat related to each other, it becomes exhausting to list the hundreds of historically-relevant people they’re related to.
I think the Duchess of Rutland has a rather fun time living at Belvoir Castle. She seems to enjoy walking around the maze of rooms and terraces that make up the estate.
Your historical narrative of the British dukedoms was fascinating. I love history . The one most endearing for me was the Duke of Ahtol - and even it was wonderful to hear about the others and their history they all come down as your regular next door neighbor and they seem to have humbleness and simple ways of living as the lady who “ the other lady on the left was better dressed and better jewelry [than her ] was a bit perturb “ she looks and act humbly .
What I find remarkable, is how down-to-earth many of these dukes and duchesses seem. Candid too. Their relatives as seen in ancient paintings however, I'm sure were mightily haughty and grand; being likely unapproachable utterly. It is a shame that H.M. Q.E. II cannot make a few more, since they are a dying breed, so they might not go extinct. What a splendid presentation was this. +:|:+
A Duke selling his lands is probably the most short sighted decision the Duke could make. It would be far better to hire an estate manager that could produce an income.
@ that's not the same as owning that land and producing actual income that can be passed down for generations. All the actual value of the title these days is tied to the inherited land.
@ That's not the point. The point is that the land associated with a dukedom is where the value of the title is derived. The title itself is severely diminished without the tangible land that goes with it. It loses it connection to history. There is more to value than monetary value. The historical, cultural, and traditional value of a Duke possessing it's historic lands is priceless. It's something that, once lost, is lost forever.
@@doctorkhan4378 that's probably for the best. if we can't do anything about it, the best is to sell it, rather than it is gone without any inheritance
The title of duke in a sense is not about the person, but rather the existence of the station itself, which is always filled by a member of a family that at some point in the past was considered trustworthy to the highest degree. Power, lands and wealth are simply commensurate with the station. Whether or not they deserve it isn't the question. They have been assigned it. As it was said in the video, there is no way to get out of the assignment, side from death or life imprisonment. This is why they have a seat in the house of lords.....with actual political experience being unnecessary. As long as everything they do is good for the country in a sense, they are doing their job.
I suppose that summarizes the conceit rather succinctly. Some version of that is surely what gets them to sleep at night. It's still a bs excuse for a political process.
DefinitelyNotDan What are you talking about? You’re really attacking this guy for being entitled and doing nothing to deserve the benefits from past figures when you are literally describing the existence of the modern aristocracy to a T. None of these people have done anything on their own to deserve the massive privilege they receive other than happen to be the progeny of someone who did something worthwhile 300 years ago. Feudalism is beyond obsolete in 2020.
@DefinitelyNotDan "What you are missing is that the hereditary peerage and titles ensure the creation of success and successful things and systems, and then ensuring or allowing the perpetuation of that success." This explains why almost all such systems detonated during the 19th- and 20th-century, with the only remnants of them being sad, ceremonial vestiges and horrible, despotic regimes that pale in comparison to the liberal democracies of the developed world in every single way.
This was really fascinating but I found the interviewer so irritating. It seemed to blow his mind that one of the women cared more about running the estate than inheriting a title, and that the South African guys were more proud of being African and less bothered that they didn't get to grow up in a castle. Imagine people having different priorities than what strangers expect of them.
It makes sense, the interviewer is an Earl and Princess Diana's brother, the Spencers come from a long line of nobility so I could see him being a bit of a snob
I have a friend and co-worker who is a Baron. He told me it was more of a burden to him than a gift so he tried to hide it from most people. I visitted his family once, the aura of tradition and history from the house and the people there make it hard for me to breathe.
What's fascinating to me is that so many people with regal titles seem to be nonchalant about their status. Awed by the work required for the large estates but themselves fairly laid back and accustomed to their life but not accustomed in a garish way. A refreshing thing to see and helps you realize that not all the fabulously wealthy are snobs.
42:41 The marchioness going on the rooftops in a dress and platform shoes tending to the maintenance of the castle, you don't see that everyday. Pretty hands-on CEO.
If Belvoir Castle is the location used to film The Crown, I find it hilarious that the Duchess, who would be invited? To any future royal coronation, rented out the actual lands to a show to parody the royal family to pay the bills.
I really believe in formality because people are getting lazy. It’s so important to keep traditions alive. Please do something to better preserve those robes, they are priceless!
Those robes are being carefully preserved. They would be in tatters were they not. Attic in a terraced (row) house sounds terribly down market. However, in London where the great and the good live in terraces, example Number 10, Downing Street, they can be extremely Grand indeed. The storage facilities are almost certainly cedar lined and properly climate controlled. His Grace must keep the robe in presentable and wearable condition at all times. It is on him to ensure the Robes may be worn at essentially a moment's notice.
"Duke" Is a title going back thousands of years, but with different words. In the original Indo-European form, It was a sort of sub-Lord directly under a Sovereign. A sort of trusted Lieutenant, one who could be trusted with some vast section of the Realm, to repel and root out invaders, thieves, corrupt local officials, and so on. At worst, in some foreign war, the Duke had to roust up thousands of conscript soldiers from their lands, and if they ever got back alive, their lands might be in starvation by then. A great job in plush times, but in war times (which was most times) it probably sucked.
I’ve been to Blenheim Palace and loved everything about it. The home was so interesting for it’s history, architecture and gardens. I loved England and hope to go back soon.
I think the Atholle situation everyone wins. The Duke and his family get to enjoy a connection to their heritage once a year. And the person who is actually interested in the management of the estate doesn't have to deal with the ceremony of the title.
Those people have titles but aren't conservators. They are just laymen who have old stuff & keep it in the attic. They don't have a mansion or the money to pay professionals to preserve antiquities, any more.
@@robinlillian9471 that's true but even my commoner American self knows you have furs professionally packed up and don't just placed in a dry cleaner bag
@@robinlillian9471 they live in a very very expensive townhouse in central London in one of the best areas plus they have a maid so don’t seem to be out of finances to properly conserve these antique robes
"Peter!...Oh, I'm on a different roof than you", not something that many people have the chance to say in life. The personal architect just makes it even better.
@@Wolf6119 yes exactly 😆... Forget watching a documentary about someone going through something horrible for perspective- listening to how out of touch these people are makes me even MORE grateful for ANYTHING difficult that's kept me grounded (and not on a roof)
the "landless duke's" wife can say what she wants but she definitely would prefer being addressed as "your grace." how would she know that "duke" or "duchess" doesnt fit on plane tickets unless she actively requested it?
PoonDestruction I worked at a store in Florida. There was a woman who shopped there and she made certain you knew she was titled. There was also a lovely lady who worked there with me that was British. She scoffed at the thought of calling her “Lady” anything. She would sometimes call and say, “this is Lady Caroline so and so.” and I would answer “Who?” It annoyed the hell out of her. But, there was a lovely German lady who was actually a duchess and very polite, friendly and sweet. Her credit card actually said “Duchess so and so”
Here in Spain, there are over 155 dukedoms actually in vigor. Some, are for royal relatives (such as the King’s sister Elena, Duchess of Lugo) while others have been in Spain longer than the actual royal house (like the Dukedom of Medina Sidonia on second creation since 1445). One curious case would be that of Mª del Rosario Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart and Silva, who had so many titles, in the hipotetical case she encounter Queen Elisabeth II in front of a door, QUEEN ELISABETH would be the one to let the duchess go first
Stop the nonsense, the number of titles don't make a person higher ranked ( or to go 1st ) a reigning queen is superior to a non reigning duchess . Even if these dukes were palatine ( ruled over a area , self governing) a monarch is still superior to a duke of a duchy . So the grand duke of Luxembourg is still lower ranked than the queen .
That Duke of Atholl: “I’m here only by accident of birth.” But he sure rose to the occasion and upheld this role to continue the tradition. It’s just like how that Duchess or princess in Downton Abbey realized that she had to put up with her philandering husband because she has a duty to the people as their duchess or princess. Something a highly individualist and capitalist American will never realize.
I liked the Duke of Athol for being so humble and the Duchess of Rutland for being a no nonsense, pragmatic matriarch. Duke of Montrose is so chill. He’s like: “Well my ancestor was finally caught, hanged, dismembered, with his parts hung all over Scotland. 💁🏻♂️” It’s also adorable that at his age he’s a working hill farmer.
@5:05 Look at her face, what gem. You cant help but love this woman. She has the interviewer in stitches. I would have loved to have sat and listened to her to speak for hours.
Crazy! “I don’t think we’re allowed to do this.” In her own childhood home. Wild! Even to be a surf, I think I would have loved it. Of course, I probably wouldn’t love being a commoner if I didn’t know what the modern world would be like. However, quite a remarkable world.
I find it interesting how many of the people with titles or near misses with titles despite being proud of their heritage see the title in a negative light. Makes me wonder what the royals really think of their situation.
All the people Interviewed here are so fun, not stuffy at all. They share a fear we all fear with lineage. My favorite is Lady Osborne, I can relate to her feelings you can't live like others if you try they fix it and remove all actions of issues.. so you either conform or you take 10 steps back every time you try to be normal.
@@gerromecampbell4087 To father a son should have been not an impossible task. Not even necessary to be married for this. As long as the Duke recognises the boy as his offspring.
Lady Camilla Osborn seems like a very nice normal lady. Some interesting trivia she is a 3rd or 4th cousin can’t remember which to both Lady Diana Spencer & Sarah Ferguson all 3 are descendants of the 1st Duke & Duchess of Abercorn. The wife of the 1st Duke Abercorn Lady Louisa Jane Russell was a daughter of The 6th Duke of Bedford & Lady Georgiana, daughter of Alexander Gordon, 4th Duke of Gordon. So lots of Dukes in that line.
This was a really interesting documentary, well done. You definitely interviewed the right people, they all seemed very down-to-earth, hard-working and passionate about keeping their history alive.
The Duke of Montrose seems to understand that times have and are continuing to change and he doesn't seem bothered at all at the prospect of dukes no longer being regarded as higher status. He almost looked amused by the entire thing.
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Who the gives a dam about Dukes? You are all foreigners anyway. The only royals worth anything in Britain are the Earls, but thanks to Jimmy Seville your secrets out and the pitchforks and torches are on their way.
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Was I the only one watching this thinking "This would be a perfect Christopher Guest movie?" 😂
Those robes though LMFAO
@@freeenergyeducationinterna1086 Many people do, they are a legacy of culture and good manners.
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I love how the Duke’s daughter attending the Queen at her coronation had to hurry home for her mom’s barbecue, lol. As an American I can relate a little!
Yes. I can't decide if this lack of excitement over the queen's coronation is the most American thing ever - or the most British thing ever.
I think the most striking thing about that is that the Queen's Coronation wasn't even the highlight of her day!
Mother was roasting an Ox "for Woodstock". That's the village. So there was a village celebration and the Duke and Duchess were expected to provide the venue and the Ox. This is a feudal idea called "Noblesse oblige". The great family was responsible to their villagers. In return, the villages would have fought for the Duke.
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"She went to Paris for a weekend and dropped dead" LOL! She said it so nonchalantly that it made me laugh. I respect that old woman for ensuring that her granddaughter would be able to live comfortably for the rest of her life. Mothers and Grandmothers always think about the future of their children.
Always? Well, not my grandma, that's for sure^^"
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This may be why, although the title goes to a foreign cousin, the ladies are running the estate :-)
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“The marriage ran into difficulties.” Love how British people manage to make everything sound so posh. Very interesting documentary and great questions by the host!
British people don't 'manage to make it' posh,it seems posh to you most likely because people speak casually wherever you are from.
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@@eleanorweaverley1105 we've really assigned them this posh label because they shoved it down our face as former colonies that that is who they are and we ate that shit up while simultaneously believing we were not as classy
@@melonie_peppers Your ridiculous assumptions are the problem,anynone can be classy,don't spread hate when you don't have the slightest insight on what happens inside
@@eleanorweaverley1105 @@eleanorweaverley1105 it's not assumption. Erasing culture and assuming barbaric behavior was an essential part of the colonial project. How else would I be speaking English rn if they hadn't forced it down my throat and to my ancestors for the past 400 years. How else did they manage for so long to convince Africans their hair was unseemly. You think those black women in the 20 with permed hair did that because they wanted to or there was a larger influence at hand? I advise you to do your research on the colonial project in Africa all the way from Age of Exploration. That is what I mean when I say they managed to convince everyone else they not classy. What hate did i spread? You mean the truth?
Imagine going to a museum that used to be your family home and there are chords round your stuff and you nonchalantly just go and remove said ropes.
@@justinmiller129 u have lots of free time
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is the house been sold?
My family's homes are now museums in N.Y. forget the community name but one of our homes is the Elms one of the most beautiful and famous.
"He had absolutely no purpose in his life"..... I'll remember this one from this very interesting documentary. Thank you.
This is only my opinion. I'm not forcing it on anybody, but I think he could have found something, anything, to focus his life on. He could've done charity work, or become the patron of a sports club, or a college, or a school, or a religious institution. He could've become an athlete, join the military, start a men's club, help the poor in the British colonies, maybe start a school for them. I mean, the world was his oyster, especially since money wasn't an issue. If Helen Keller had found a purpose, then it's not impossible for him.
Of course, I don't know all the details of his life, so I'm not trying to judge him, but this makes me sad and angry at the same time. Seriously? You couldn't find anything you could focus your life on?
@@krdiaz8026 I totally agree with you. There are SO MANY things to focus on. Just visit a poor country and you will be so thankful for your blessings. If you don’t have any mental health issues then you will probably be very happy to just be alive with all the privileges their lives had. But, I guess some people just focus on their negatives.
Sometimes the self-awareness that people need to create meaning in life is created under stressful conditions, and perhaps the right conditions for growth were not present in his life
Sometimes you’ve got to hit rock bottom so you have something to stand on
@@krdiaz8026 i believe he could even focus on something less obvious/noble, he could just have a hobby, he could collect stamps for what's worth it, it would have been a purpose
Gotta love the duke with so many titles he's struggling to remember them all.
I believe he was the South African gent who stumbled across his royal title upon death of a distant relative
Looks like fun, my one title is Mr.. 😂👏🏻
that family was my favourite.
He seemed a bit dim anyway
@@zmanila yes, I have just posted a comment about it 😂😂😂🇿🇦
A humble South African sign-maker finding out he's to be made duke of Atholl is like something out of a 1990s romcom.
Jacob Lehy - It was! What movie was that? I forgot and that part was so funny. Wasn't that the family's middle name?
He used to be an officer in the South African Defence Force.
The Murrays are well known in South Africa, and well regarded.
E Johnson King Ralph.
@@ejohnson3131 There's an old Afrikaans movie which, strangely enough, has a similar storyline. The movie is called "Lord Oom Piet". "Oom" being an Afrikaans title comparable so something between sir and uncle. The movie is about an Afrikaans farmer (Boer) who is tracked down as being the heir to a Lordship in England (in a similarly convoluted manner to this case). The problem is (in the movie), the "Oom" hates the English with a typical Afrikaner passion (Many Afrikaners resented, and some still do, the English after the two Sout-African (Boer) wars. So this Oom tries to avoid becoming the lord, and the only way he can do it is by exploiting an old Royal decree given to one of his forefathers that said that if he were to lose another jousting tournament he would have to forfeit the title. The movie then continues about how he has to enlist the help of his bitter political rival, an English nobleman also living near the same town, to host a jousting tournament so that he can lose it and be freed of the lordship. It's a really funny movie, but if I remember correctly it's mostly in Afrikaans.
www.imdb.com/title/tt0367985/fullcredits
af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_oom_Piet
It shows how ludicrous the whole thing is.
"I'm here because of an accident of birth, and I didn't actually do anything to deserve this huge privilege that I have." As an American, I'm really heartened by his expressed self-awareness. In the US, we may not have titles of nobility, but we have our share of people born into wealth and privilege -- recognizing my own fortunate circumstance, of course. We can't justifiably demand anyone give up what family and circumstance has blessed them with, but self-awareness of the kind expressed by the duke would still be welcome.
We can justifiably demand it, though. Privileges and property inheritance can be abolished. It would be the moral thing to do.
i was
no
U.S.A.
ciTizen never
@@Qrtuop Lol "Moral". Parents have the right to give their wealth to their Children. You Commies are so Delusional.
Cringe
@@Qrtuop Really? My husband and I have earned a good living and have saved a nice inheritance for our children. It’s our gift to them and you don’t get to just come and take it because you don’t have the same. We worked hard, and my parents worked hard and you have zero right to it on the grounds you have decided it’s a “moral right”.
The lady of the yellow castle seems like she really loves the business side of it and taking care of her inheritance. Also the first lady was really interesting, it will be amazing to see old royals walk through their palaces and tell all those stories about childhood and teenage years.
The lady of the yellow castle😂
The daughter of the Duke of Leads is so nice to listen to. I like her sensitive and realistic way of describing the various scenarios in the lives of she and her father. Money isn't everything.
"But instead of practicing piano I used to play with the dagger" drops rope to check on her dagger. Boss lady
Just hate furniture on the slant.
K C I didn’t get why would anybody want to cut the paintings out of their frames?
Gerardo Salas It case of Fire 🔥 I guess the weight & size of the frames permitted them from being taken down & thrown out of windows.
@@samanthab1923 Its kind of like saving the memories/images of past generations so they dont get forgotten, since the portrait would be the only "photograph" of them at the time. Frames are easily rebought with all the cash lol
She was a looker in her day.
The Duke of Atholl is such a lovely person! He just seems like a solid guy who truly understands how blessed he is. And the moment when we learned that they really don’t wear anything under their kilt had me laughing so hard!
Funny and intelligent!
South Africans are pretty nice people all in all.
Jeff Morse Absolutely! And smart, too! They tend to have a laid back, unique view of the world that is quite charming and refreshing. ✌️
He knows he's just a figurehead. Someone else runs the place. His role is ceremonial.
@@jeffmorse645 thank you. Yes we are a happy bunch and we play amazing rugby. My adult sons who have gone to live in their patriarchal England were so conflicted which side to support in the 2019 world cup final 😂🇿🇦
"I Haven't done anything to deserve it". Respect!
Well, he was merely stating the truth! Hardly reason to venerate the bloke.
Dennis Lewis you could venerate him for keeping together the community, despite you know having no stake in the place.
@@alexandrepasteur7636 I agree. He and his family seem to have their heads in the right place. He was justly proud and happy that the ductal property was taken care of so that he wouldn't have to administer it.
Respect?
#RoyalParasite
He starts off lying when he says (whimpers): you can't abdicate from being a Duke, as you obviously CAN voluntarily resign your privilege, he's clearly pandering, whining and moaning
Let's be clear here. None of them have done anything to deserve any of this.
Lady Rosemary is what really makes this documentary, i.e.
“I don’t think we’re aloud to do this” [does it anyway] 😆. Personal goals.
@theagenttomato The proper spelling is "allowed".
@@linda_smilesrfree2744, you are more than welcome to reprogram mobile autocorrection to differentiate English words. In fact, I insist.
I love her😍
I would like to "like" this comment but the spelling error kind of forbids me :-O
@@theagenttomato You can turn off autocorection.
The thing that interests me most about Dukes and Royals is their proximity to so much history! What a joy to see so much of it an to have access to archives and architecture.
It's always funny to watch those genealogy shows when someone is descended from someone related to royals. Once that connection is made they can trace them back hundreds of years because the connections are so well-recorded.
It reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html&.efana
It reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html&.odwwa
Thanks to colonization/money and power.
@@toomessy cry more
I'm surprised a 400 year old historical robe is just hung in a garment bag. His wife's robe too. Very beautiful items. I've seen modern wedding dresses with better preservation. The family seems very nice and humble. I hope the robes don't deteriorate.
I nearly died when I saw that! Couldn't believe it! I wish they'd lend them out or donate them to a museum so they can be restored and properly cared for. Pieces of history left to rot in the attic with no temp control? Omg.....
Does London have no fur storage services?
@@dinglebarry528 what the heck is a fur storage service?
@@catepilarr - A facility that stores furs.
@@r.mcbride2837 IKR? Maybe they can ask the Queen. Or donate them to the conservatory that takes care of historical clothing😩. I almost cried when she said “I hope the moths haven’t gotten to them”.
Imagine her life as a young girl growing up. Her mother left her. Her father, the duke died and left her with a nasty stepmother.
A regular Cinderella story
Her story was so sad, yet she seems upbeat and delightful.
Well I assume she is not malicious she has a totally tone deaf entitlement. Maybe it is just because I am American but hearing rich people complain and suffer is tedious
Shit happens , all the time . There are many children being abandoned today all over the world. I can not feel sorry for someone who has never made a handle in his entire life.
@@lila2986 How many girls do you think grew up without a father, in Indonesia 1946 - 1954, Korea 1950-1953, coup in Iran 1953 .Laos 1953-1975, Guatemala 1954, Lebanon blue bat 1958, invasion of pigs bay 1961, Vietnam 1964-1975, Dominican Republic 1965-1966, South African border war 1965- 1989. Nanchahuazu 1966-1967, Cambodia 1970-1975, Angola 1975-2002, Hmong conflict Laos 1975-2007, Cambodia 1977-1991, Lebanon 1982-1984. Greneda 1983. Libya1987 - 1988 .Panama 1989 - 1990, Gulf Wars 1990 -1991. operation gothic snake 1993. Bosnia 1994-1995 Iraq dessert for 1998, Kosovo 1998-1999. 2001- 2021 Afghanistan, Iraq 2003-2011. Lisbon 2011. and how is your compassion for those girls. there are millions of those who have lost their father, because they have been killed by American soldiers?
If only Agatha Christie were still alive to write a mystery where the Dyuke is murdered in the library by the dagger hidden near the family portrait.
and the interviwer did it...
merry hunt perhaps you’ll become a new mystery writer ?
Perfect😂. Why don’t you write one?😉
Did you ever watch the movie “GOSFORD PARK”?
@@mangot589 y
I think the SOuth African duke is the embodiment of humility and respect for tradition, without the negative stereotypes of privilege and arrogance. Probably wouldn’t be such a stigma against the nobility if they all acted like that
I love that the sons of the current Duke of Atholl say they're not sorry they don't live in the castle, that they are proud to be [South] African, and always will be, but that they have Scottish heritage as well, so they have the best of both worlds. Good attitude.
"We are real soldiers. In theory we could gather the men and go to war... but idk how effective we would be" lmao.. Imagine gathering your group of friends after a night out in pubs, recruiting them into your army, then marching on London.
Happens in the U.S.A. with our private ‘militias’. They are actually legal, private standing armies as allowed by our constitution ( that may change, however ).
@@highwatercircutrider All 50 states actually prohibit paramilitary activity.
You know, I think they could make a tourist attraction out of that...scottish private army marching on the heart of england!
@@larrym2434
Private militias have been formed by individuals in America since the colonial period. ... Approximately half the states maintain laws regulating private militias. Generally, these laws prohibit the parading and exercising of armed private militias in public, but do not forbid the formation of private militias.
Lady Violet Manners what a smoke show! No wonder she is the thumbnail.
God was paying attention when they all shouted, "Long live the queen!"
👉🏾
Lol fuck the british monarch
Ayrond A - no thanks. Princess Stephanie, maybe.
@@shichilaofawell, spoken like a true treacherous traitor and enemy of UK and the commonwealth realms.
RYAN HUNT RAJPUT how do i dislike this a million times
The lady whose father was a Duke is quite nice.
I wonder if she married and had a son, wouldn't he become the Duke?
Thomas B - No, not especially.
Thomas B - No, not especially.
@Thomas B: Yes, she does seem like a nice, down-to-earth lady.
Imagine you were born and raised in a grand castle like this - and decades later you enter it again, as a visitor among visitors. Your family home has turned into a museum... my heart would bleed, so many memories and so much change in one lifetime...
I like how she goes through the ropes and starts moving the chair to find the knife she remembers
Ouyuha, it reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html
I almost spit out my water in laughter when the Bestwood Lodge ended up becoming a Best Western hotel.
"it was just home" - lovely Lady
Yes and we are merely aliens Lol
How do you keep your estate? Marry the right women. Proper daughters, wives , and mother in laws all seem essential to holding onto these grand piles.
And marrying the wrong one the key to losing them.
@@jimsy5530 Ah, yes... The wrong woman has been the undoing of many a man, young and old, noble or not... 😏😉
Almost like that's the viewpoint they wanted for the doc...
BigMamaDave - Agree! Dukes or not, High or low - a good wife / daughter makes a big difference.
Fascinating and kind of sad, to me. Being a lover of history, I adore all these sorts of things and hate to see it all pass away, much of it left to just deteriorate quietly.
32:40 I love his eye rolling, almost like, "Here she goes again, I thought I was the duke and could answer at least one question."
😂
😂😂😂 ...same thought! Probably that's why he was asked the question about the portrait with the falcon, ...to have the poor man finally answering to something! 😂
Perhaps she took the control of the interview because she knew he's barely understandable. I'm not English mother tongue, and I had to listen to him again and again to catch a word he said 🙄
It reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html&.levma
Lady Rosemary Spencer-Churchill is, as her name suggests, related to both Lady Diana Spencer and Winston Churchill. So you can tell without meeting her that she is going to be a class act! I believe that she is also distantly related to the Vanderbilts, too.
Yes her grandmother was Consuelo Vanderbilt
I appreciate that this makes it obvious that the aristocracy takes their responsibility to the people who live on and near their estate seriously, like the Duke's daughter not being able to stay in London after the royal wedding because she had to help with the celebration barbecue at their family palace. It's also nice that the Duke of Atholl appreciates his position so much. It would be so hard to manage a palace and dukedom without being brought up to do it.
The Duchess of St Albans, 27:39 - 33:12 took over the interview. Despite her assertions that they don't mind not having to live like a Duke and Duchess, you can sense that she'd rather be living lavishly with the title and all the accoutrements that come with it.
Who wouldn't lol
She should be grateful that she still has a head attached to her body.
Luc Aux whatd they do to you
@@ryans5073 perhaps detached their head from their body?
I thought she was wonderful, she was witty, cool lady.
" I just hate things on the slant." LOL shes adorable!
its so bourgeois...to place things on the slant...oh dear...i feel faint! :)
@@renfordmalcolm Being bourgeois is, technically, the opposite of being high born ;)
@@johnubal2825 hmmm... but of course...
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Me too! I didn't know I had SO much in common with aristocratic ladies, lol!😉
Fascinating and kind of sad, to me. Being a lover of history, I adore all these sorts of things and hate to see it all pass away, much of it left to just deteriorate quietly.
@John R I agree. :-)
Crazy thing is it's not the people that deteriorate the Duke dom it's the government chipping away at it and crazy inheritance taxes
Agreed. I feel the same way.
The beautiful castles need to be restored and opened up to the public. The titles and air of self-importance and superiority should go. It's time. We are in the 21st century!
@wings of a butterfly the only real reason a ruling class has stayed in power is their control over the means of production and/or the military strength required to suppress everyone else. Nothing to do with being more able to lead.
Oh to be British, "Your Majesty, I'm sorry to leave the coronation early, but I must get home bc Mum is roasted an ox".
Jolly well, off you go :)
Otalba, it reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html
"Mum is roasted" .... That is not jolly at all,it is horrendous. What on earth Kimberly? I am quite sure we English do not roast our mothers.
The African Athol sons are Cuuuuuuuute, and Rosie really just wanted to go home for the barbecue 😂😂😂😂adorable!!!
These people’s stories were WELL worth hearing. This is meaningful cultural history.
I could write a million words on this documentary
That's bling and pompous phrasing. And taxes.
It reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html&.jmqua
_enters a room bigger than most of apartments_ "So this is the butler's pantry."
Her talk at 25:30 was very sad. All we can hope at the end of our lives is to have lived life well.
Felt really bad for father too, who kept getting dumped by those cold-hearted gold diggers
Fascinating and kind of sad, to me. Being a lover of history, I adore all these sorts of things and hate to see it all pass away, much of it left to just deteriorate quietly.
It reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html&.wkkla
Oosasa, it reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html
I’m particularly interested in the story of the Dukes of St. Albans. I think that it’s important to investigate the nature of the mental illness that has plagued the family. But the current Earl is lovely and I think he will make a very good Duke when his time comes.
I wonder if they were undiagnosed diabetics.
maybe bc of depression?
Personally, I found Lady Camilla Osborne to be such a nice, decent and intelligent (reflective) human being, with her feet firmly on the ground and a good sense of humour, which is incredibly useful when you have suffered a lot. I know my opinion is of absolutely no importance (before I am "attacked" by anyone reading this who has a different opinion) but I was genuinely touched by the little she shared about her life history and I liked her impish pleasure at being seated on the right at Christies. I had the feeling you could have a really good evening in her company. I'm just a pleb BTW.
"Rosie, dear, do remember to come straight home after the Queen's coronation. Spit spot. The roasting of the ox is taking place, and we need you to cut ." --- "Of course, mummy."
time stamp?
@@mazzeyy Rosie didn't actually say that :P But the part where she talks about the ox is 7:35
I just read that with a British accent! 😅
Spit spot indeed! 🍷
@@extendedlimits thank you
Doesn’t even mention thats she’s Winston Churchill’s first cousin.
It is well known, why should she repeat the known?
@@ajantsmith6139 to boast with her farmous relatives. There are lots and lots of ppl out there who'd take every opportunity to do so to make themselves more interesting than they (maybe) are and I hate those.
She didn't, bcs (I think) she knew that a reference to her far more famous cousin wouldn't add anything of substance to the current conversation, which makes her way more likeable. It makes her stand out as her own person and not just a relative of someone more famous.
She's already a duchess, no need to flex
I didn't know that. Maybe it's common knowledge with Brits but I think this topic interests a lot of non-Brits too and there are probably others watching this
Momera it is certainly an interesting connection, but considering that the British nobility are responsible for a good chunk of the historical events of the last 300 years or so, and that they’re all at least somewhat related to each other, it becomes exhausting to list the hundreds of historically-relevant people they’re related to.
I think the Duchess of Rutland has a rather fun time living at Belvoir Castle. She seems to enjoy walking around the maze of rooms and terraces that make up the estate.
It's pretty cool to know she can manage the castle well too
@@bishplz1234 She literally seems to be on top of it.
Belvoir Castle
Larry Reinert Sorry. I couldn’t properly make out the name of the castle thorough the accent
It reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html&.pcuka
Your historical narrative of the British dukedoms was fascinating. I love history . The one most endearing for me was the Duke of Ahtol - and even it was wonderful to hear about the others and their history they all come down as your regular next door neighbor and they seem to have humbleness and simple ways of living as the lady who “ the other lady on the left was better dressed and better jewelry [than her ] was a bit perturb “ she looks and act humbly .
What I find remarkable, is how down-to-earth many of these dukes and duchesses seem. Candid too.
Their relatives as seen in ancient paintings however, I'm sure were mightily haughty and grand; being likely unapproachable utterly.
It is a shame that H.M. Q.E. II cannot make a few more, since they are a dying breed, so they might not go extinct.
What a splendid presentation was this.
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A Duke selling his lands is probably the most short sighted decision the Duke could make. It would be far better to hire an estate manager that could produce an income.
@ that's not the same as owning that land and producing actual income that can be passed down for generations. All the actual value of the title these days is tied to the inherited land.
@ That's not the point. The point is that the land associated with a dukedom is where the value of the title is derived. The title itself is severely diminished without the tangible land that goes with it. It loses it connection to history. There is more to value than monetary value. The historical, cultural, and traditional value of a Duke possessing it's historic lands is priceless. It's something that, once lost, is lost forever.
Well, even i have been selling my ancestral lands on the country side. I am not a duke. I am kind a sad for the sale. I couldn't manage.
@@doctorkhan4378 that's probably for the best. if we can't do anything about it, the best is to sell it, rather than it is gone without any inheritance
Most are broke.
17:25 And NOW we KNOW what a Scotsman does NOT wear under his kilt.
pants, i am sure
😂
Yeah. That was quite eye opening!
John Doe bare bottom 😂
😆
The title of duke in a sense is not about the person, but rather the existence of the station itself, which is always filled by a member of a family that at some point in the past was considered trustworthy to the highest degree. Power, lands and wealth are simply commensurate with the station. Whether or not they deserve it isn't the question. They have been assigned it. As it was said in the video, there is no way to get out of the assignment, side from death or life imprisonment. This is why they have a seat in the house of lords.....with actual political experience being unnecessary. As long as everything they do is good for the country in a sense, they are doing their job.
I suppose that summarizes the conceit rather succinctly. Some version of that is surely what gets them to sleep at night. It's still a bs excuse for a political process.
This is the sort of strange, convoluted rationale that people will create to justify their privileged position, I suppose.
DefinitelyNotDan What are you talking about? You’re really attacking this guy for being entitled and doing nothing to deserve the benefits from past figures when you are literally describing the existence of the modern aristocracy to a T. None of these people have done anything on their own to deserve the massive privilege they receive other than happen to be the progeny of someone who did something worthwhile 300 years ago. Feudalism is beyond obsolete in 2020.
@DefinitelyNotDan
"What you are missing is that the hereditary peerage and titles ensure the creation of success and successful things and systems, and then ensuring or allowing the perpetuation of that success."
This explains why almost all such systems detonated during the 19th- and 20th-century, with the only remnants of them being sad, ceremonial vestiges and horrible, despotic regimes that pale in comparison to the liberal democracies of the developed world in every single way.
@DefinitelyNotDan ok boomer
46:39 casually drives with a cup of tea so Britisch haha
I love tradition like this. I love when people are proud of their heritage
This was really fascinating but I found the interviewer so irritating. It seemed to blow his mind that one of the women cared more about running the estate than inheriting a title, and that the South African guys were more proud of being African and less bothered that they didn't get to grow up in a castle. Imagine people having different priorities than what strangers expect of them.
It makes sense, the interviewer is an Earl and Princess Diana's brother, the Spencers come from a long line of nobility so I could see him being a bit of a snob
@@TIFFANYDlAS i didnt realize Diana's brother was the interviewer
26:06 omg can somebody give this woman a hug?
The Atholl Duke's sons are pretty cute.
was looking for this comment,lovely family too.
The Duke ain't bad either!
Nice pic of this great mother kkkk
Opleia, it reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html
I have a friend and co-worker who is a Baron. He told me it was more of a burden to him than a gift so he tried to hide it from most people. I visitted his family once, the aura of tradition and history from the house and the people there make it hard for me to breathe.
What's fascinating to me is that so many people with regal titles seem to be nonchalant about their status. Awed by the work required for the large estates but themselves fairly laid back and accustomed to their life but not accustomed in a garish way. A refreshing thing to see and helps you realize that not all the fabulously wealthy are snobs.
42:41 The marchioness going on the rooftops in a dress and platform shoes tending to the maintenance of the castle, you don't see that everyday. Pretty hands-on CEO.
She really seemed to have taken extremely well to the responsiblities it entails. Straightforward and no bs.
It reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html&.evzba
I love how belvoir castle looked so familiar when they zoomed in on it. Anybody else who watches The Crown?
If Belvoir Castle is the location used to film The Crown, I find it hilarious that the Duchess, who would be invited? To any future royal coronation, rented out the actual lands to a show to parody the royal family to pay the bills.
The Duke of Montrose is a genial man. I like that he is a working farmer and did not even allow the reporter to be his valet LOL.
The reporter seems to be Earl Spencer ,Diana's brother
@@eleonora78 Really?
32:19. I can’t believe they haven’t had those robes professionally packed to preserve them.
I really believe in formality because people are getting lazy. It’s so important to keep traditions alive. Please do something to better preserve those robes, they are priceless!
Those robes are being carefully preserved. They would be in tatters were they not. Attic in a terraced (row) house sounds terribly down market. However, in London where the great and the good live in terraces, example Number 10, Downing Street, they can be extremely Grand indeed. The storage facilities are almost certainly cedar lined and properly climate controlled. His Grace must keep the robe in presentable and wearable condition at all times. It is on him to ensure the Robes may be worn at essentially a moment's notice.
"Duke" Is a title going back thousands of years, but with different words. In the original Indo-European form, It was a sort of sub-Lord directly under a Sovereign. A sort of trusted Lieutenant, one who could be trusted with some vast section of the Realm, to repel and root out invaders, thieves, corrupt local officials, and so on.
At worst, in some foreign war, the Duke had to roust up thousands of conscript soldiers from their lands, and if they ever got back alive, their lands might be in starvation by then.
A great job in plush times, but in war times (which was most times) it probably sucked.
I’ve been to Blenheim Palace and loved everything about it. The home was so interesting for it’s history, architecture and gardens. I loved England and hope to go back soon.
I think the Atholle situation everyone wins. The Duke and his family get to enjoy a connection to their heritage once a year. And the person who is actually interested in the management of the estate doesn't have to deal with the ceremony of the title.
Honestly, the Duke Of Montrosse is adorable, and I adore his sense of History and tradition matched with humility.
It’s interesting how the host puts everyone at ease.
The host is Charles Spencer, he’s as aristocratic as they are.
31:50 if the robes are in plastic bags, they will molt. Fur should never be kept in or up against plastic.
Those people have titles but aren't conservators. They are just laymen who have old stuff & keep it in the attic. They don't have a mansion or the money to pay professionals to preserve antiquities, any more.
@@robinlillian9471 that's true but even my commoner American self knows you have furs professionally packed up and don't just placed in a dry cleaner bag
@@laddibugg Her husband is an accountant, not, Bill Gates :)
Does her husband speak. She sure takes over
@@robinlillian9471 they live in a very very expensive townhouse in central London in one of the best areas plus they have a maid so don’t seem to be out of finances to properly conserve these antique robes
"Peter!...Oh, I'm on a different roof than you", not something that many people have the chance to say in life. The personal architect just makes it even better.
"And this picture here is a depiction of my ancestor's execution" is another one lol
It reminds me of the *_cougar in this video_* ruclips.net/video/U2rNnzVotS0/видео.html&.qhxxa
@@Wolf6119 yes exactly 😆... Forget watching a documentary about someone going through something horrible for perspective- listening to how out of touch these people are makes me even MORE grateful for ANYTHING difficult that's kept me grounded (and not on a roof)
How blessed is that reporter that he could touch that cape? Made with lace from the 1600's? Touching history. ✨❤️🤙🏼
The dagger lady was so beautiful! Hope she is still alive and well.😃
I went to Belvior Castle in the summer of 1980 for a medieval festival. There was a jousting tournament. Beautiful place.
the "landless duke's" wife can say what she wants but she definitely would prefer being addressed as "your grace." how would she know that "duke" or "duchess" doesnt fit on plane tickets unless she actively requested it?
she also has Asian maid/ slave. Plus her poor husband can barely get a word in edgewise. He was born into it, yet she knows it all ;-)
PoonDestruction I worked at a store in Florida. There was a woman who shopped there and she made certain you knew she was titled. There was also a lovely lady who worked there with me that was British. She scoffed at the thought of calling her “Lady” anything. She would sometimes call and say, “this is Lady Caroline so and so.” and I would answer “Who?” It annoyed the hell out of her. But, there was a lovely German lady who was actually a duchess and very polite, friendly and sweet. Her credit card actually said “Duchess so and so”
That was my first thought too 😂 she definitely asked...and I would bet more than once
🤣🤣🤣💯
South West and Delta asked for my titles. It has many options, including RN. Which is my Title.
Bless the young man Charles, the youngest “Duke of Albany” to be, has a very sweet and authentic generous Soul!
Here in Spain, there are over 155 dukedoms actually in vigor. Some, are for royal relatives (such as the King’s sister Elena, Duchess of Lugo) while others have been in Spain longer than the actual royal house (like the Dukedom of Medina Sidonia on second creation since 1445). One curious case would be that of Mª del Rosario Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart and Silva, who had so many titles, in the hipotetical case she encounter Queen Elisabeth II in front of a door, QUEEN ELISABETH would be the one to let the duchess go first
Stop the nonsense, the number of titles don't make a person higher ranked ( or to go 1st ) a reigning queen is superior to a non reigning duchess .
Even if these dukes were palatine ( ruled over a area , self governing) a monarch is still superior to a duke of a duchy . So the grand duke of Luxembourg is still lower ranked than the queen .
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That Duke of Atholl: “I’m here only by accident of birth.”
But he sure rose to the occasion and upheld this role to continue the tradition. It’s just like how that Duchess or princess in Downton Abbey realized that she had to put up with her philandering husband because she has a duty to the people as their duchess or princess. Something a highly individualist and capitalist American will never realize.
“In a house like this, you don’t want a bunch of midgets walking about...” LoL
Nice, treating people like race horses. Typical aristocracy...
@smadge100 whole generations but if you were born the normal height you had no value in their eyes
better a Midget than an Atholl
thorry, it thounded funny
and damn right too....very top shelf dahling....!
.Nothing too special at 9:48, just a piece of paper from the year 1180.
IKR? Like she was so causal about it??? THATS LITERALLY A HISTORICAL ARTIFACT FROM A 1000 YEARS AGO??? And she’s so chill about it.
There's a fascinating book about the Duke of Rutland--mid-century- called The Secret Rooms. Highly recommended. Enjoyed this video tremendously.
I liked the Duke of Athol for being so humble and the Duchess of Rutland for being a no nonsense, pragmatic matriarch.
Duke of Montrose is so chill. He’s like: “Well my ancestor was finally caught, hanged, dismembered, with his parts hung all over Scotland. 💁🏻♂️” It’s also adorable that at his age he’s a working hill farmer.
@5:05 Look at her face, what gem. You cant help but love this woman. She has the interviewer in stitches. I would have loved to have sat and listened to her to speak for hours.
Crazy! “I don’t think we’re allowed to do this.” In her own childhood home. Wild! Even to be a surf, I think I would have loved it. Of course, I probably wouldn’t love being a commoner if I didn’t know what the modern world would be like. However, quite a remarkable world.
The duke of Atoll seems like such a nice guy.
Melissa, yes cause he was raised in South Africa lol
Yeah, he's South African. 😆 We're a down to earth kind of people.
But he is a peasant oppressor!
That would be "Atholl." And guess how you pronounce it.
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I find it interesting how many of the people with titles or near misses with titles despite being proud of their heritage see the title in a negative light. Makes me wonder what the royals really think of their situation.
I really like Camilla...she had a rough childhood and she seems so sweet with a big heart and a sense of humor.
All the people
Interviewed here are so fun, not stuffy at all. They share a fear we all fear with lineage. My favorite is Lady Osborne, I can relate to her feelings you can't live like others if you try they fix it and remove all actions of issues.. so you either conform or you take 10 steps back every time you try to be normal.
thank you for making this warm quality production with generous involvement by the people concerned, God bless the Dukes and their families amen
Paul Harvey Thank, you Paul Harvey, my great Grandmother was Amanda Salome Harvey born 1880 in Chester County, PA.
Being able to maintain a huge multi acre state and ancient title is accomplishment in itself deserving of such an inheritance.
Surprisingly many bachelor's amongst these dukes
They are probably gay. They can’t marry another man and they have luxury not to live a miserable life
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@@gerromecampbell4087 To father a son should have been not an impossible task. Not even necessary to be married for this. As long as the Duke recognises the boy as his offspring.
@@gerromecampbell4087 my thoughts exactly. Many pretty women would have been all over these dukes for marriage and a privileged life
@@NickVenture1 Illegitimate sons cannot inherit a title.
Lady Camilla Osborn seems like a very nice normal lady. Some interesting trivia she is a 3rd or 4th cousin can’t remember which to both Lady Diana Spencer & Sarah Ferguson all 3 are descendants of the 1st Duke & Duchess of Abercorn. The wife of the 1st Duke Abercorn Lady Louisa Jane Russell was a daughter of The 6th Duke of Bedford & Lady Georgiana, daughter of Alexander Gordon, 4th Duke of Gordon. So lots of Dukes in that line.
Imagine living in a house so big that you could play a game with your friends running around the house to the point where you could get lost
I couldn't imagine how hard it is to find something in this house
It would be easy because everything has its own designated place.
Mummy was roasting an ox, priceless
The one who couldn't even remember his full title is a whole mood.
Shoutout to Luz, the maid of the Duke and Duchess of St. Albans: she's the real heroine here.
This was a really interesting documentary, well done. You definitely interviewed the right people, they all seemed very down-to-earth, hard-working and passionate about keeping their history alive.
I love this lady, she is so fine with her speech, her poise, the demeanor. What a dream life!
Who?
Leave your children enough money to do something with it but not too much so they don’t have to do anything.
Most of these Dukes are really down to earth considering.
I find myself coming back to this documentary. It's simply beautiful
The Duke of Montrose seems to understand that times have and are continuing to change and he doesn't seem bothered at all at the prospect of dukes no longer being regarded as higher status. He almost looked amused by the entire thing.