Electric Brewing Supply - Panel Build Part 1 - Panel layout and 220V wiring - for electric brewing
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Covered in this video: Panel layout and design, some tips and techniques for handling larger gauge wire routing, and wiring the 220v Circuit.
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I do have an affiliate account with them and if you find this video helpful and want to support my continued effort to bring more information on the wonderful hobby of electric brewing. Please consider using the links below to purchase your kit or any other components you might need. I do appreciate the support and it does not cost you any more to use the links. (Amazon links ARE NOT affiliate links)
Electric Brewing Supply
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The PID based 30 Amp conrtol panel featured in this build.
www.ebrewsupply...
Individual parts and componenets for electric brewing.
www.ebrewsupply...
PDF version of the wiring guide: guide.ebrew.sup...
Tools below are only suggestions, you can use other similar tools you can find locally.
Wire Strippers
www.amazon.com...
Wire Cutters
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*RECOMMENDED FOR DRILLING HOLES IN THE FACE OF A STAINLESS PANEL*
7/8 or 22mm holes for switches and leds.
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Mild steel hole drilling
7/8 or 22mm holes for switches and leds.
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1/8 inch pilot hole bit
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Angle grinder with blade for Cutting PID holes.
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I will be releasing a new video every week at 1:30 pm every Monday..for as long as it takes to complete the series. I will be going through the entire build, power cable, sensor wires, setup and testing, and probably one brew on it! Stay tuned!
When you make 90s like that with the wire, you seperate the conductors inside of the wire and they become potential hotspots. Might want to consider sweeping the bend. Small tubing benders work great for that, as do zipties and saddles.
Understood, thanks for the tips! 👍🍻
I just wanted to say how much I really appreciated the videos you made. I was able to make my own setup off some of these, and do it SAFELY. Hats off to you my good man. I posted a video of my final build over on my channel, let me know what you think. Again, thank you for taking the time! Pete
I'll go check it out!! Thanks for the feedback! 🍻👍
Never ever use any form of grips to bend cables the secret is to Make the cable work for you pressure marks are now present on the sheaths of the cables naughty . warm the cable in your hands slide it up and down in your hands so you create heat this then softens the outer sheath and loosens up the cores Cold multi strand cable can crack break if you over pressure i can bend form right up to a 240 quad power cable . ... Respect to your work my Friend just here to help .
Hey thanks for that tip!! I'll use it! 👍🍻
Wow, you will have a lots of view over the years with this professional video. Cheers
I suppose so Christian I just hope it helps people go electric I really do enjoy brewing that way and hope other people can find the pleasure that I do in it. If this helps them I'm all for putting the time in to do it. Cheers! 🍻👍
Short Circuited Brewers you start my home Brewery and help to keep the passion with you live brew etc...
Looking forward to the rest of this series.
I will be releasing a new video every week at 1:30 pm every Monday..for as long as it takes to complete the series. I will be going through the entire build, power cable, sensor wires, setup and testing, and probably one brew on it! Stay tuned!
Hi just a quick note I build panels and it is not recommended to bend the wires with players in a tight bend. I have been told by the electrical authority here in Canada that it can compromise the wire jacket. I once did the same for tidiness but was told my panels wouldn’t pass inspection. We use CSA here in Canada and they have a reciprocal agreement with UL. I am told a curve is acceptable.
I don’t know if you have had an inspection
Also ground found ground.
I now use a copper bar at the bottom or a star point for all grounds. Should be done first.
Good tips!! Thanks for sharing! 👍🍻
Very excited for this!
Me to Brad I'm excited to get going on it. As a matter of fact I'm wiring more of the panel right now. 👍🍻
Awesome! I noticed you didn't use any spade terminals. Are you foregoing them entirely? Or just with the heavier gauge wires?
The way the connections are made on the back panel of the control panel you don't need to have any spades on those they have a crimp system that holds the wires in place. On the control panel door we will definitely be using spade connectors because those are just screw connections on switches, lights, etc. The only thing on the back panel that gets spade connectors is the interlock circuit relay which is also the estop relay
Thanks for the clarification!
Awesome! That is a pretty clean build compared to what I did. Can't wait for the next episode. Cheers, Brian!
OOOh it's about to get MESSY!! LOL Cheers Brian!
Great video! Can't wait to see the others.
Thanks Adam! Second episode is being edited now I really do a lot more wiring in it..stay tuned! Cheers! 🍻
Good job my brother
THANKS! 👍🍻
Thanks for beginning this awaited series. I am a fan of your channel since the last two weeks and have been enjoying your brewdays as well as the Robobrew series. In the video you mention a workbook... where is it? how can we get it?
I just added a link to it in the description. It does differ slightly from the spiral bound book you get when you order a panel from them. (you probably can see it laying on the table while I'm wiring) Next video I will put what page I am on for both the PDF and the book.
Thank you Brian.
So cool!
Yeah I am pretty excited to get going on it. Cheers!!
Short Circuited Brewers yes you should be!
I've seen some other guys build this 30A control panel, however you're the only one I've seen using those rails to mount everything to the back plate. Do the rails come with the kit, or is this a personal touch you added?
That is how it came in the kit.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Thanks, I did a bit more research on their website it appears that the DIN rail components are now an add on option. Love the content.
@@chrislaliberte544 thanks!! 👍🍻
Do you have a downloadable schematic? That would be fantastic to deeper understand what's going on.
It is down in the description of the video.👍🍻
Brian, we use these a lot.
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Really keeps those loose strands from fraying into the next terminal. Carry on ' teach!
Mr. Bill thanks!! Those are cool! I admit I have not seen them before! Cheers! 🍻 (the teacher becomes the student!)
I finished my electric brewery a few months ago, following The Electric Brewery guide, although I did add some relay logic.
Electric Brewery Progress Photos: imgur.com/a/qX2As
pedgaro49 very nice The Wooden Box gives us an interesting look. got a lot packed in there that's for sure! Bravo on a well put-together system!!
I’m at the concept stage of designing a system like yours. I have limited experience with building electronics so I’m taking my time. I’m curious about the differences in the back panel - component rails and components Vs the back panel on your website (build tutorial.) They appear to be two different systems with different components. Can you elaborate a bit on both?
Rudeboyardee not a huge difference really. I would say the rail system is a little cleaner install. On the other hand the singular components allow a little more flexibility on placement. There maybe a slight increase in cost with the rail system due to the extra cost of the rail itself. So there are positive and negative aspects to either one. As far as the difference between the two systems one of them is a kit from ebrewsupply that they sent me to do the tutorial with I am not keeping the control panel. The other one was a early design that was meant to be as cost-effective as possible for someone looking to build a control panel like that. Hope that helps a little bit cheers!! 👍🍻
Can you upload any main service panel wiring installation video
You mean for your house?
Great video and very helpful! Wondering if you know if I can use both sides of the power distribution block to run my hot wires to? Still using the jumpers, but really allowing for fewer blocks to be used. Thanks!
Sure you can use both sides. The main reason for the jumpers is to allow a single wire to power multiple blocks at time. Thanks for commenting! Cheers Stephen! 👍🍻
Thank you, that helps a ton. I'll be sure to share my build when done! Cheers!
Looking forward to it!
Min bend radius
good
Thanks
Brian on a scale of 1-10 what would you say the difficulty is to build this ?
Mark Yajcaji A 6.. With my videos a little easier. The instructions from them are a little "high level" but as I say I the videos. Take it one circuit at a time and double check everything you would be surprised how easy it is. Hardest part for most people is the interlock circuit. But it not to bad. It is a very complete kit, I wasn't missing ANYTHING.. If you decide to do it, I'm here and Ryan and his staff are great too. 👍🍻
Awesome Video. Thanks for all the tips. I have a question for you? What type of wiring are you using inside your panel? I have some extra SOOW 10 guage wire that I can cut up and use, but would that be ok? The electric brewery recommends THHM. Any help would be great. Thank you
You can use the wire from the SOOW. I just does not hold its shape as well. The other thing about that type of wire also has smaller strands than the THHM so it can pull out of terminals easier. Other than those 2 issues I don't see any issues with it.
Short Circuited Brewers thank you!
No problem Sean! 👍🍻
Looks like "LEGO"!
Lol nothing to it!!
w hat need to see in your video is control software components for automatic control panel
I have some of the components for the brucontrol.com system. I will be working on building that system.in the near future. Thanks for watching and commenting!! Cheers! 🍻👍
Is there a benefit to using stranded wire vs solid core wire
Stranded wire is much easier to work with, twist, bend and much more flexible. I don't know how much you have worked with solid wire but it is a real pain to bend especially in larger gauge sizes. You COULD use solid copper if you wanted. The door for instance would be difficult to open and close due to the lack of flexibility of the solid wire. I hope that answers your question? (Good question!) Thanks for watching Troy! Cheers 🍻
If i recall properly AC flows on the outside and DC flows through the wire. So stranded wire is superior for an AC project like this to prevent power drop. but then again the wiring length probably isn't enough to make a difference. My late .02.
Do you ever use trunking on your back plates?
Have not used any on the ones that I have built so far. I have an Arduino based system build coming up I will probably use some on to keep it clean due to all the wiring that will be in it. Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍🍻
Short Circuited Brewers no problem dude! First video of yours that I’ve watched and it’s great quality keep up the good work👍
Thanks!! 👍🍻
Wires bent at 90° ? Bloody hell throw that carnage into the dumpster. Like rigth now.....
Lol
Fun to watch, BUT I fell off in the first 30 seconds. Clearly I´m not cut out to be an electrician. Cheers
Old Norse brewery hey you got plenty of skills to bring to the table I won't fault you on not being an electrician!! Missed you on the livestream yesterday!! 👍🍻
We had a search party to find our missing four legged pet and we had to take him to the vet and put him down today so I was a bit busy. Cheers
Oh man!! I'm so sorry!! Trust me when I love your comment I don't love the fact that you had to put your dog down I'm really sorry to hear that... my condolences. One of the worst things I've ever had to do.
Short Circuited Brewers Thank you Brian.
You're welcome. My heart goes out to you. All of our pets are like family members.