BACK TO THE FUTURE 4K UHD BLU-RAY REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2021
- Review of the 4K UHD Blu-ray release of the Robert Zemeckis 1985 classic 'Back To The Future' starring Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd. This is the steelbook version and comes with a 4K disc and Blu-ray disc. All the extras have been on previous releases but are included on both discs in this case.
Aspect ratio: 1.85:1 Dolby Atmos sound.
4K disc is eminently superior to the Blu-ray on this occasion. 
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One of the biggest failures of modern films is the total lack of memorable music scores. Great was the day when I could walk out of the cinema whistling and humming a film's main theme.
And this was one of the best in that regard. It's synonymous with cinema. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I don't really understand why film-makers turned away from memorable tunes over the last ten, twenty years. There are exceptions but on the whole.. it's something I really miss.
Exactly and the absence of real villains...darth Vader...Clarence boddicker...Hans gruber etc...and where have the strong male leads gone?...
@@iansmith6166 There have been some Ian... can't think of any right now but surely we should be able to think of a few. And Barrie, maybe we could think of a few good male leads too. How about the leading boy in Super 8? I thought he was pretty terrific. John.
@@moviecollector5920 @Ian Smith The Denzel Washington film Déjà Vu has an amazing soundtrack by Harry Gregson-Williams. It doesn't however seem to have a main theme. The composers seem to just write something that fits the scene. Hans Zimmer seems to be the only one who still uses Themes. The Dark Knight films, Pirates Of The Caribbean, though it was a different composers he collaborated with on Curse of the Black Pearl there is still a strong theme there. But by today's films, these are now old. They had strong male leads like Johnny Dep and Christian Bale. There are so many huge well known actors now that I don't think you'll get the strong leads anymore. Also they will write roles more balanced with the female roles or make leads, which is fine by me. They would alienate half their potential viewers if the females took back seats again. Besides I think it has improved a lot of movies with the women taking on much stronger roles.
Villains! Heath Ledger's Joker must be the last memorable one but even that character was just 1 movies. We'll never know if he'd have reprised the role. But all the Marvel and DC films have multiple bad guys, so there is no space for a single ultimate villain.
IMO Back to the Future really is a 360° masterpiece... well made in every aspect and still quite enjoyable, 36 years later. I was lucky enough to see it in the theater in 1985. It combines many genres... sci fi, comedy, nostalgia (which is at a whole new level now). It's simply among the best movies of all time. I can't think of a single flaw.
I feel fairly sure that you're spot on there! John.
I love it when your face lights up about everything. You are a true film fan that can see how wonderful film is. Keep the videos coming they are wonderful. Thank you.
Thank you. I plan to do a monthly round-up in the coming days - assuming I can find the time. So expect reviews in that of The Goonies, The Fast and the Furious 8, Lucy, Doctor Sleep and perhaps also My Fair Lady but I might decide to do a separate review for that last one. John.
BTTF is probably the most loved film of my generation. It was certainly a favorite in my household. My sister and I watched it so many times we knew the script by heart. I'd bet if we watched it a single time for revision we could do it all again. If ever there was a 'family' film this is it! As always, a great review :-)
I think it plays better today than it ever did before Lee. The sign of a great film. John.
Another great video. I’d love to see you review that Romancing the Stone 8mm release. Love your channel. Cheers from the always wonderfully wacky state of Florida.
Romancing The Stone is a good Super 8 'Scope feature Chris. It's not up there with the best of them but the next tier down perhaps and on a similar level to Alien and one or two others. Keep well and safe over there in Florida. John.
Very good review. This is my wife's favorite movie. I fixed up our basement as a home theater with a 77" Sony a80j OLED (sitting 9.5' away) and a excellent 5.2.2 surround system with a Marantz SR8015 at its core. Even added a movie theater style popcorn machine. And Back to the Future is one of our 4 24"x36" movie posters. I purchased the Back to the Future Trilogy for her on 4k and we have watched the first film so far. I thought it was a huge improvement over the bluray as well. The scenes in Doc's 1955 house are particularly stunning with a multitude of details we had never noticed.
It's a very good film to video transfer and blows the Blu-ray out of the water. That's rarely the case but it is with this one.
Now for the future, don't rule out a budget 4K video projector to enhance your cinema evenings. It really is so exciting to get away from the restrictions of a box and fill a screen as big as your home cinema will allow. My own little viewing room projects onto a painted wall so don't be fooled by the need to spend big money on a white screen because anything will do. We tend to do three evenings a week in our cinema now and it's really helped during this past 18 months. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I seriously considered a projector but after demoing several I just found the quality and detail of the image much better on an OLED TV (not on an LDC or QLED). To get a projector acceptable in quality it costs 3-4 times the cost of my 77" OLED. However you may have saved me about $4-5k with the idea of paint. If there is paint that could be about as good as a high quality screen then I may consider a projector. I have a wall that is easily big enough for 120" or more. But running the power and cabling through the wall and ceiling anchoring a projector will also add to the cost.
@@snowpuppy77 Dulux brilliant white matt emulsion is very good but so is every other brand I've ever used. Don't be fooled by all this rubbish about the type and bead of screen you need because video projectors today are so bright that it is a complete irrelevance. Televisions tend to produce unrealistic imagery but it is possible to correct them with plenty of trial and error. I suppose the same is true for video projection but I find it easy to set them up to replicate the look of film closely. And you're not restricted by the box then either which means you can mask the image off and enlarge it further for Panavision ratio films if you fancy doing that and have the room. John.
Back to the Future is a stone cold classic, no doubt about it. I love Time after Time, David Warner is a great actor, always enjoyable to watch. Thanks for another cracking review👍🏻
Agree entirely Darth. Funny how Malcolm McDowell and David Warner both ended up with major parts on the Star Trek films too. I wonder if any of that was related. John.
@@moviecollector5920 - That would be Nicholas Mayer’s doing. Great Director, wish he’d done more.
"Back to the Future" is one of my fav Time Travel (I have all my time travel movie sitting next to each other, love them) movies of all "Time" (pun intended).
My family went to a friends house when the kids were like 8 or 9 years old and I brought "B to the F" on VHS with me. After watching the movie and leaving my friends house, both of my kids said "That was an AWESOME movie"...first time they had seen it.
"Time after Time" is an awesome movie, saw it in the theater, loved it. Seen it many times since then.
That is the movie that made me fall in love with Mary Steenburgen, and she also stared in "Back to the Future III". She sure gets around time.
Great stories Bob. I too love Mary Steenburgen. Saw her last in The Book Club which we thought was pretty terrific but then I've been in love with Jane Fonda for over 40 years! John.
Ohh, I love time after time! I actually have an original theatrical poster hanging in my home theatre. I met Malcolm Mcdowell at an autograph session, beside being a bit of prik, he didn't remember that film either! 🧐 Oh well, I still enjoy it, mainly because The Time Machine is one of my all time favorites and they're similar enough for my moderate tastes.
I think The Time Machine is partly to blame for my love of the movies. Saw it on television as a child and immediately fascinated by it. John.
Your videos make my weekend, John!
a) Have the whole 4k set at home and HDR quality is excellent. Agree, the first part is the best and it aged well ( especially vs part 2).
b) related to the ILM Book. Always wanted to get it but it’s sold out and seemingly not planned to be reissued. Guess I have to get it used then…
c) finally want to thank you again on introducing me to the cinema retro magazine. Love it. New issue just came and will trigger me to watch Cleopatra again as issue 41 triggered watching The Deep and issue 42 the Airport movies. Fantastic.
So keep your good work up - in face of a generation watching movies on iPhones and iPads - we need to stick together 😉
Greetings from Germany
Gerald
Greetings Gerald. I've been buried in the latest issue of Cinema Retro since it arrived a couple of days ago. I really like the Ice Station Zebra ten page retrospective. Dave Worrall has kept all his cinema tickets from longer ago than I which is quite amazing really. I knew that article was coming so I purchased the Blu-ray in anticipation and I may do a review of it now given it was one of the MGM Cinerama tie-ins. An excuse to include Grand Prix, How The West Was Won and 2001 a little perhaps. Also a chance to give the magazine another plug as all these things need all the help they can get these days.
Thomas G. Smith's ILM 'Bible' is fabulous. I've had it from when it was first published and refer to it often. The follow up book is a bit of a bore as it is almost entirely about computer imagery and that just doesn't hold the appeal of building the models, painting the mattes and controlling cameras with computers to get gawd knows how many exposures on the same frames of film to make up a completed special effect. It really was magic how it was all done back then. Now it's of no interest at all unless the old methods are used and that seems to be rare.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I have to admit that I’ve never seen ice station zebra. So I will order it and then read the article.
On ILM I agree. I’m still fascinated what can be achieved today with just computers but the old stuff - eg done on Star Wars IV to VI - is much more impressive.
@@gero5032 Ice Station Zebra isn't a masterpiece but it's good and really quite interesting to watch. With the help of Cinema Retro's ten page retrospective, it's just become a lot more interesting to watch!
John.
Time After Time is a shadow classic. I've shown it to so many people who've never heard of it, and to a person, they all fell in love with it. It's very 70's, but I think McDowell, Steenburgen (there's another Back to the Future connection) and Warner are all absolutely perfect.
I can say that the 4K releases of BTTF II and III aren't quite up to the original (I think Universal puts more effort into the original classics over any sequels), and some of the effects shots are dodgy. That said, the trilogy set is a solid 4K buy, IMHO
It seems a lot of us have much affection for Time After Time Mark. Maybe I should have done a fuller review of it than I did. I rather expected hardly anyone would have heard of it before. Perhaps it's just that many of us have a penchant for time travelling adventures. Shows we have an imagination I think.
John.
I agree with the score. It’s as good as anything John Williams could have made
I think it's synonymous with cinema just like several of Mr. Williams scores. When you here these classic themes you know what it's from immediately which is quite an achievement for the composers. John.
Your reviews are always so nice and insightful, thank you 👍
Nice of you to say Robert. Thank you! John.
Love the Back to the Future Trilogy and agree they look and sound stunning on 4k I have owned this set of films since VHS and still have that set, they have produced some wonderful collectors editions two of which I own and featured on videos on my channel . Thanks for sharing really nice Steelbook 👍
It's actually the first time I've purchased Back to the Future which is amazing now that I realize it. I was never a big fan of VHS but it did help us to enjoy films a little before LaserDisc became more available. DVD was even better but not as interesting and then Blu-ray which I have to admit I underestimated until 4K UHD Blu-ray proved how good Blu-ray really was. Through it all though I've been lucky to have cinematic imagery in the home thanks to Super 8 film. I plan to get back to using it on my ten foot screen in the living room soon because it looks better on a bigger screen. John,
Hello, John.
Once again you've set the gold standard for 4K UHD Blu-ray disc reviews.
I eagerly await the day you post your review of the Blu-ray disc for the 70mm feature 'Baraka'.
Sincerely,
Erik
I've been trying to track down a 70mm print Roder! John.
@@moviecollector5920 Awesome!
Used to watch this movie non-stop since we taped it off of cable back in the 80's, the blu-ray is a big step up! Great video, was never wild about part 2 but 3 is maybe my favorite. Slight bias since I love westerns.
I agree.
There was the additional problem with the sequels Alex and that was that Michael J. Fox was clearly older than in the original and that helped to lose some of the magic. He looked somewhat younger later on when he played Stuart Little though! John.
That was a wonderful choice of a movie for a review! We love to rewatch it once every few years. It deserves all the praise it gets!
Very few things of what you said, were ever brought up in documentaries about this film. So, as always, thank you for an interesting story!
I will also send you something cool and movie related! ;-)
Greetings Dmitri. And thank you for you kind comments as always. John.
@@moviecollector5920 You are most welcome, John!
Love these videos so much. Laughed out loud at the Time After Time cards bit. Your videos always cheer me up. Please keep them coming!
Thank you William. Yes, it's such a shame those postcards are so boring. The poster's just as bad. But it's a very good film and deserves to be seen by a wider audience now that it's almost a completely forgotten film. John.
It is a pretty iconic movie, the car does play a huge part. It's a mad adventure with fantastic humour, great entertainment. Excellent review once again 😀
I never enjoyed it so much as this 4K disc. Another one that's improved with age Stephen... just like us. John.
Time After Time is a great movie. It also stars Mary Steenburgen who became Malcolm’s wife at one point.. Coincidentally, she stars in a Back to the Furure sequel..
Mary Steenburgen is so lovable. I know her best from One Magic Christmas where she plays a downtrodden mother but she comes good in the end. I'd forgotten she was in the Back to the Future sequel but I haven't seen either of the sequels in a long time... and don't really want to because I like the original so much. Perfect film making perhaps.
John.
Having just upgraded to 4k and watched a couple of films, I am staggered by how video fidelity is so much better than Blu Ray, not just in pixel density but in colour and contrast
The quality of the discs does vary to be fair and HDR does seem to cause some disc authors a few problems. Sometimes the HDR is way too high and means some people would be better off watching the Blu-ray. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hi new sub from Finland here. Great videos. I Have had lot problems with 4K. I have Samsung Q60T 58" tv and Panasonic UB-450 player. I have calibrated tv now 2-3 weeks. Still with major of 4K discs I have problems to see difference vs blu-ray. :/ One example is Jaws... I really dont see difference in resolution etc. Also colours bit washed. Soon I have tried everything. If I stream from RUclips or Netflix, quality is lot better. This needs to get figured out. :/
@@Raidallinen76 Greetings from England and good to have you here.
4K rarely shows an upgrade in terms of resolution so that's not unusual and that's because our home screens are tiny, particularly television screens. A 58 inch TV is not really 58 inches because that's a diagonal measurement used to make prospective purchasers think they're getting something bigger than they are. The TV industry has always been like that but it's time they got away from it. When it comes to a 4K disc actually looking better though this is due to HDR and that's where you need to look for what is amiss with your system. Jaws is one of the best 4K discs and if you are not experiencing the superior colour and density when looking at the 4K then perhaps see if you can find where to turn your HDR setting up and down. If your Panasonic remote has the 4K button to the top right of the cursor buttons the same as mine then it's easy to play with but if not it means going through the player's system menu to find it. It's also possible your player is not outputting HDR or your television is not receiving it so does the 'HDR' box appear in the top right of the screen when a 4K disc first comes on?
I had issues with both my systems when I first got them almost four years ago so you're not alone. It took ages to get the projection system right but I got there in the end. It's far more complicated than any video system that went before it.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks for your really informative answer!!! I dont get any HDR logo on screen. Only if i go to source window in my tv, there I can see my blu-ray player HDMI-port and there is HDR logo around it and with Jaws there is HDR10+. Also if I click status from Panasonic UB-450, it shows HDR etc. while playing. I have tried all. Yesterday I found in color space settings that during 4K HDR material it gives possibility to change color gamut. I have color space auto. But you can change gamut between DCI-P3 and BT.2020. BT.2020 seems little darker/deeper all colours. I can change that and still leave color space settings auto. I have no clue what those means tho. :)
@@Raidallinen76 It's a long time since I did some serious configuring of my video projector to get the best out of 4K but initially I was having trouble with some discs showing banding and it may well have been one of those BT or DCI settings that caused it. One was compatible between player and television but the other wasn't. I don't know if finally finding that issue and correcting it resulted in better overall image quality but I suspect it did. Whatever the issue is with yours the Jaws 4K and Blu-ray should be ideal to use as the test discs because although the Blu-ray is fabulous, it doesn't have the rich colour of the 4K disc. That gold/bronze car going onto the ferry early on (start of chapter 4 if I remember correctly) should show a perceptible difference. It may not be as obvious on your system so maybe turn the colour up a little to enhance it overall which will hopefully help the 4K colour to stand out more over the Blu-ray. Then keep going backwards and forwards to see if you start to see the difference.
John.
Big fan of BTTF trilogy...great escapism! I bought the set in 4k and you are absolutely on point, it is a stellar transfer! Love your channel John, I often revisit your reviews and it's time to revisit your take on the immortal classic, John Carpenter's Halloween!
I actually watched my Halloween video a few weeks ago as I couldn't remember anything about it and I was rather surprised. It's actually quite interesting. I don't like to watch my own productions normally but I really need to to ensure I don't repeat myself on here but it's hard to get motivated to watch them. John.
Another great review! Well I was lucky enough to visit Universal Studios back in 2003 and enjoy the BTTF ride. Agreed: the first movie is completely self contained and by far the best of the trilogy. I consider it one of the very few "perfect" movies - as long as you don't overanalyze it. It's obvious that all that time travel nonsense and your typical nostalgic Hollywood portrayal of the American 1950s are just fun devices. In reality the movie is about the hero's journey (Marty) and his old friend. Both are rather clumsy fellas, and Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd manage to make us genuinely care, as well as turning it into comedy gold. All other cast members are top notch.
Agreed with the other comments: Great seeing that you never lost that precious child inside of you with an unbroken enthusiasm, joy and sense of wonder.
I might get old but I hope I never grow up! Back To The Future is just about perfect and I couldn't have summed it up better than you have done. So perfect really that I still don't want to see the sequels again. John.
The videos of this channel deserved to be shot on film 🤗 😀
Yes, if only! John.
I think your review has decided it's a Back to the Future trilogy night this weekend! :) (On dvd though 😂!)
You'll have a great time with it. Just keep an eye out for a 4K of the first film so you can enjoy it even more in the future!!! John.
Romancing in the Stone loved that film as a kid
I still love it today. About time I ran that Super 8 'Scope print again. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yeah will be worth doing, another great video Sir 👍
Hey John, lovely review. Always enjoy your extra information. I picked up the 3 movie boxed set for about £27. Embarrassed to say that I have not even opened it. New girlfriend and the death of my Naan have been on my mind 😂
Life is so precious Rob that you just take that new gal of yours and enjoy every minute... as long as it involves getting in that fabulous cinema of yours and watching plenty of movies. That first Back To The Future film should give you a lift however down you're feeling so just put the main score on and you'll soon be in the mood. John.
I throughly enjoyed your Review.I wonder if the 4K is just as good when I was 13 & was lucky enough to see Back to the Future in the Theater or if this 4K surpassed it!
35mm should be better than this Chris but without having a print to check it against it's hard to say. The Fifth Element was a good test but the video appears to have had a digital sharpen tool applied to it which is a shame but it's still really close to the 35mm. Alien is another good example and so similar to the 35mm re-release print known as 'The Director's Cut' that i'd be hard pushed to tell which was which if it wasn't for the obvious noise from the 35mm projector. But to really do a comparison would require top-notch cinema quality projectors onto a huge screen and not the budget 4K video projector or portable 35mm projector that I use here for my tiny home screen. John.
Another great review.
If you love Back to the Future, give the Ravensburger game a try. It captures the theme extremely well.
And up until today, I never heard of Time after Time before. It sounds really interesting.
Sadly I don't play video games at all. Gave up 30 years ago and never went back. Never had the time in the first place so once I decided to walk away all those years ago that turned out to be that. But Time After Time is a good film, if a little dated but I like that about it.
John.
HI John, Another great review thank you for the effort. Cheers! Chris
Thank you Chris.
I have the trilogy set on 4K and they all look great.
It’s a shame like Indians Jones that they don’t have the original stereo audio present but the new mixes are stellar and the picture quality is fantastic.
Having them all on their original laserdisc releases seeing them in 4K is a delight.
The biggest change to the Audio is the bottle billy Zane throws at Michael j fox. In the original film it was a loud crashing bottle sound that moved from right to left which it is now replaced with a static completely new sound.
Shame they haven’t released the cut of the film they shot with the original actor. Would love to have seen that
There are extracts from the original shoot with Erik Stoltz within the extras but you can see why they had to let him go. I'm sure the film would have been fine but the difference between him in the role and Michael J. Fox is night and day. It would not have been the massive success it was without him. As for the sound, so many people complain if the latest sound system isn't on these discs that it's not worth all the time, effort and money to put the original tracks on a lot of the time. I tend to go for the latest soundtrack even on films I love so I'm almost as bad. I know some will say that there's no work required, just drop the sound on there but there is so much more to it and the more you put on a disc, the more chance there is that things will go wrong and a disaster could ensue. I know because I've done it myself! ohn.
Hello John, I hope you are doing well! my take-up reel arrived in the mail and I watched my whole 400 ft reel of close encounters, and I have to say, I cannot express my appreciation for blu ray and 4K discs, it is truly amazing that a whole movie can fit on a disc. I loved seeing the 20 mins of close encounters, it was amazing seeing the film go from one reel to the other, the picture was quite good, around a blu ray quality which is amazing. Funny how a picture from super 8 film looks better than a dvd, haha. I now think the 4K of close encounters is truly amazing and is one of the best out there. Thank you for inspiring me to purchase a brand new format of film, it is truly amazing!
I did reply to this earlier Clark but it seems to have disappeared. Did you get my reply? If not, I'll try to remember what I said and type it in again. John.
@@moviecollector5920 it seems your message has been deleted again, maybe try sending the message via email, that should work. Thanks
@@ClarkTeddles Email sent Clark. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thank you, just replied to the email, Thanks!
Time after time is such a good movie. And seems to be one of Zemeckis favourite... ;)
I love all these time travelling, time twisting movies. Never could get enough of them. And I now regard Back To The Future more highly than I ever did before so it's another that seems to have got better with age. John.
Your channel has become curriculum for me. Its truly awesome.
Very kind of you to say so Ivar. More coming soon and the plan for the next video is a round up of a few 4Ks that I haven't had the chance to do bespoke reviews for. Some of them are rather good too such as Doctor Sleep. John.
@@moviecollector5920 looking forward to your release. Regarding Doctor Sleep, it turned out to be much better than expected.
I remember seeing it in 85 when i was 10, its one of my top 10 of all time.its so weird tht many scenes were shot with another actor playing Marty, Eric Stoltz , anyhow they just dodnt feel the vibe with him and its possible tht it would not have done well without Michael J Fox, as he obviously is the heart of the movie.
And yet Eric Stoltz is great in other things. It may have come good in the end so without having seen the original intention finished I don't suppose we'll ever know. But Michael J. Fox did bring something extra special to this one so I can't imagine it would have been such a hit.
John.
Thank u John for the great review :) This classic sci-fi comedy is one of my favorite movies of all time and perhaps one of the best time travel movies ever made in my opinion. The storyline is amazing and it's really fun to watch. Great performances and I really like all characters. The trilogy is perfect and I'm glad there won't be a Back To The Future 4 because it might ruin the franchise.
Time after time is a time travel film I enjoy very much and I also like the tv series Time after time from 2017 based on the film.
Well I'd never heard of the Time After Time television series. As for Back To The Future, they couldn't possibly do another film because Michael J. Fox sadly isn't up to it now. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yes I don't think it would work without Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd. I also think the the trilogy set the bar so high that it would be very hard to make another film that are anywhere near as good but it could still be very interesting.
Nice review as always John. It's a shame you are only doing the one film. It is awesomely fun and silly.
I loved your 8mm footage, really cool to see.
The music certainly plays a massive part in any connection to the 3 films. That tickle of notes is so iconic.
I'm sad you don't really like the 2 sequels but I get where you're coming from.
The 2nd is cool but there is something really cool about the 3rd film and the introduction of a love interest for Doc. All in all a great fun Trilogy.
Looking forward to what you review next.
Trevor
I think the original film is so perfect that anything else rather spoils it. That air of mystery that's left at the end of it is gone as soon as the second film starts. And Michael J. Fox always seemed so much older to me in those sequels that it lost something else to boot. But I did enjoy them Trevor even if I don't fancy seeing them again just yet. John.
Great job John 👍👍 I picked up the 4k trilogy set for €30 here in Germany....
Lovely steel book 🤩🤩
Cor, at that money Roy I might even have purchased them. But as I said, I do find that they spoil the original for me and that was a reason I didn't want to see them again. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yea I get what your saying.....but after I watch the first I want to continue on the story.....and at that price I couldn't say no.....
@@RoyMurphy1 Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd are brilliant in all three and worth watching. But the original is in a class of its own. John.
Only found this channel lately its really good. Subbed! 👍
Good man. And thank you! John.
Hey. Thanks for showing Thomas G. Smiths book on ILM. Paid a fortune for it in the late 80's when I was a teenager but was well worth it.
I've read it several times Martin and often refer back to it. The follow up book was a complete bore which was a shame but that's computer effects so there's not much of interest that can be said about it. John.
Same as many other 80s films, I watched this series too many times as a child. Its brilliant, but now I'm kind of sick it. 4K is a good excuse to revisit!
I hadn't seen it in years and it is not only a great film but it looks just like a film print on this 4K disc so I suspect you might enjoy it almost as much as I did. John.
@@moviecollector5920 will do! as soon as I pull the trigger on a 4K screen. still procrastinating, getting all the life out of my old Panasonic plasma.
@@MonkeyspankO Yep, put it on the shopping list of titles to purchase when you finally take the plunge. But wait until your equipment is worn out first. I think too many of us get too focussed on having the latest equipment when most of the time we don't get the best out of such things. John.
Instant thumbs up! Thank you for another great 4k review!
It's easy when it's a film like this one. John.
Another A1 great review of yours Sir this movie is in my top ten best movies of all time + Alan Silvestri score for THE ABYSS is not only his best score works but also. one of the best scores of all time
I have The Abyss soundtrack and agree that it's pretty darned fabulous. I also have the film on Super 8 in 'Scope (brilliant) as well as the PAL gatefold LaserDisc and the digibook DVD. Never watched the LaserDisc or the DVD though, just used them to sync' the sound to the Super 8. John.
@@moviecollector5920 You are welcome (as usua)l i had also back then the LASERDISC can't wait for THE ABYSS + TRUE LIES + STRANGE DAYS on UHD
I really enjoy these videos of yours and I look forward to seeing them every week. Here's an idea for you: maybe you can tell us all what you would like to see get the 4k treatment. I'm curious about what you think in that regard. I think Romancing The Stone would be nice to have in 4k, don't you? I understand that Who Framed Roger Rabbit is coming in December. I hope you will review it when it does.
Thank you Timothy. I don't really fancy getting into the 'coming soon' side of this like so many other reviewers do because I think it's just a bit of a cash cow really. I decided right from the start I wanted to create film videos that would stand the test of time and doing something along the lines of what I'd like to see on 4K would be more of a video log that would spoil what I've done so far. But you're not the first person to suggest it so maybe I can incorporate a few things in videos in the future.
John.
Great review, John, cheers.
The first film is easily the best in the series.
I watched the trilogy in HDR10+ as I didn't realise, at the time, that my player always picks HDR10+ over Dolby vision.
There is so much involved with the settings on a player or a projector/television. It takes ages to get to the stage of absolutely right and then something new comes along and you're back to square one. Frustrating at times. John.
Great review. I don’t have a 4K blu-ray player, however I have back to the future trilogy, time after time, and the time machine in my blu-ray films collection. My favourite out of those has to be time after time, closely followed by back to the future 1. Thanks for sharing.
Those are all great films but how about adding Deja Vu to the list? Tony Scott's best perhaps. John.
Hi John, Love all the BTTFs, I honestly didnt think part two looked as good as part one, but there is a lot of double or more process shots in this film, especially near the begining. Im still not sure this is how time travel would actually work, see Primer or Deja vu, but very entertaining nevertheless.
Deja Vu is a masterpiece isn't it Clive? Tony Scott's best possibly. That's a serious thriller but this one's more of a comedy. I love 'em both!
Somehow it seems fitting that this first film has the best image quality after all. Thank you for letting me know.
John.
Another great video John. Would you consider making a guide to which 4K transfers are best avoided? I've bought a few (Terminator 2 is the one that springs to mind) where the video quality hasn't been very good at all. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Dan. I don't think I've seen any 4K discs that I'd recommend avoiding as they're all good, very good, excellent or outstanding. The ones where I've mentioned the HDR is too bright are possibly the only ones that can be realistically criticized. I've heard about digital noise reduction being applied to T2 but I haven't seen it so I can't comment. Others seem to have had digital sharpening applied (pretty sure of that and it was The Fifth Element that convinced me but not entirely certain) but it still doesn't destroy the overall good impression the discs give. John.
i might be in the minority here but i love the third installment the most. i'm not sure why,if it's because it's set in the wild west or for other reasons. but the first one remains a classic of course
A couple of people have said they like the third film most on here so you're not alone. I enjoyed it but never wanted to see it again. I expect I'll get around to it one day though. John.
Yes, I also understand. I like the third installment as a close second. I love that Doc Brown gets his own dramatic arc and of course the Old West setting, complete with a beautiful steam locomotive is great fun. The ending may be a bit preachy, but I was unable to come up with a better idea, so I'm fine.
@@truefilm6991 Everyone seems to be saying the the third film is better than the second which is interesting. I can't really remember either of them too well so just maybe I'll think better of them both when the time comes and I want to risk spoiling the first film again!!! John.
Love Time After Time. I think that's a film that could use a good Arrow or Shout Factory restoration.
The scene when he is in McDonald's and he's checking out the table is hilarious!
Time After Time seems to be garnering some rather good plaudits on here so maybe there's an audience for it out there after all. John.
“I have never seen wood like this before” said HG Wells
@@m3snusteve How did they get away with it?
For some reason I have never been a fan of the Back to the Future movies, no idea way. As always yet another great review, thanks you.
The first one is a classic. The sequels may have spoiled the first one for you. Did for me a little which is why I only wanted the first film on 4K. It's just like watching a film in the home so it might be worth another try. And the steelbook is rather nice too so it's a good collectable to have. John.
Love the Japanese packaging. There's also a yellow plutonium case boxset that looks amazing :)
I only wanted the first film Jeff so the choice was somewhat limited... this steelbook or nothing! John.
@@moviecollector5920 I liked them all but I honestly like the second one best because it raised the stakes and had an interesting idea of the future of the time the first was great and the third was good but was the weakest and felt unnecessary because it felt like most of the loose ends were already tied up
@@cheetahluv210 Maybe I'll enjoy the second film more when I finally see it again. I liked the open ending of the original film. That little bit of 'what if' mystery just worked for me. John.
Gotta defend Part III - maybe because I saw it in LA's Cinedome on a date when it fist came out! But, honestly, it's my faveorite 'cause it's the only one where all three time zones are present; opens in the 1955, goes to 1885 (during my B-Day) and ends 1985! Plus, the car gets the most makeovers!
@@RenePeraza I expect I'll watch them again one day but I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed revisiting Back To The Future in isolation this time. Previously I've seen all three and felt a bit let down by the end of them but not this time. I do think it's better as a standalone film but I might change my mind when i do finally see the sequels again. John.
Excellent review John, I have the trilogy and thoroughly enjoyed all three films. I now get regular emails from HMV so go in and purchase 3 for 30 4k and 2 for 24 4k and 50% off 4k. Costing me a pretty penny despite the discounts!!
That latest HMV email earlier this week was bloody dangerous! But I managed to resist... for now. John.
@@moviecollector5920 👍😆
classic flick - only a fan of the first movie as well
Good to know there's someone out there who feels the same as I about the sequels. John.
Time After Time is indeed a hidden gem! Here in the State we got a Blu-ray from Warner Archive -- it's a really great-looking transfer, but not sure how it compares to your version.
I don't think this one is brilliant but it's good enough to be able to watch and enjoy the film. More than good enough actually. I'd prefer a 35mm print but being pre-1982 they're just about all fading by now... I know because my BFCC colleague and boss has one! John.
Great video John! I don't even own the blu ray for this film so I may need to pick up the 4K for it, I will be buying close encounters on 4K soon for the new series for my channel, Very excited for it! Thanks! Have a great day!
The trouble with this one Clark is that you'll have to splash out on the expensive trilogy. Even just the first film in this steelbook was rather expensive but I didn't fancy seeing the sequels again yet. Close Encounters is a better option right now and it is a fabulous release with all three versions of the film and a plethora of extras that can keep the most ardent movie enthusiast occupied. There will be a lot to talk about with Close Encounters, particularly because you have the Super 8 piece of history. There was also a CineaVision release of the promotional trailer which you will see as an extra. But those CineaVision prints suffered fade quickly and even though they were considered the pinnacle of home cinema at the time, today they're regarded as a bit of a let down owing to the poor print stock used. I still have that CineaVision release so will have to dig it out when I finally get around to doing something on Close Encounters. Maybe at the same time as you. John
@@moviecollector5920 maybe we could do a partial collaboration (like the one you did with mondo chelloveck and Leon talk film) that would be fun, I can't wait to see the extras and talk about them. I am about to order close encounters and should be here in a couple of weeks, I have actually never seen the film, so I am very excited to give it a watch! can't wait!
@@ClarkTeddles I was already thinking along those lines Clark. Try to include cutaways to the box and the Super 8 film running through and all that sort of thing but while your original dialogue when sat in front of camera is playing... if that makes sense. The cutaways can hide edits and corrections which is basically what I do. Davinci Resolve is a powerful tool once you get to grips with it so a few on-line tutorials every now and then always help. Right now I'm finishing the editing of a classic car production in Resolve that will be finished in an older video editor for preparation for disc authoring. Basically it's mastered in Davinci Resolve and then finished in another editor because Resolve never got into MPEG and M2TS for DVD and Blu-ray authoring. When it comes to colour and density grading there is nothing better than Resolve and that's why all the major studios use it for restorations. Keep an eye out in some of the extras documentaries about film restorations (Jaws for example) and uou'll spot older versions of Resolve being used.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thank you so much, I am very excited to make this video and possible collaboration. I will book out a whole day so I can watch the special features and documentaries that are in the 4K package. I have been actually thinking about doing the cutaway to the box and 4K disc for a while but never got around to it. Thanks!
@@ClarkTeddles Take your time with the videos you create Clark because you have a long road ahead of you and with a bit of learning now you may find you have a ready made career by the time you're ready to leave the education system. Davinci Resolve is at the cutting edge (sorry about that term!) when it comes to video grading and editing so anyone that can get good skills within it may have opportunities around the world with the thriving film industry these days. Get as knowledgeable as you can about film and be able to put a positive critique into words and your channel could be massive in years to come. If that happens you won't need to work for anyone. I don't get much back from my own channel but it helps pay for some of the discs. But if I wanted to focus on making money from RUclips I'm pretty sure I could earn pretty good money from it if I was prepared to issue a lot more videos on a greater variety of film subjects like other RUclips disc reviewers do. But I don't want to make crappy videos, I want them all to be good quality if possible. John.
Just ordering this. Knew you would have a review you absolute legend!
I keep looking at that steelbook on the shelf and think that I should find the time to watch it again. A timeless film!!! John.
@@moviecollector5920John I’ve been watching some clips on RUclips of Eric Stoltz as Marty. Apparently there’s an almost finished film with him as Marty before they hired Michael J Fox. I think they made the right choice but call it morbid curiosity I want to see all the Stoltz footage kinda an alternate reality back to the future. Have you ever seen any of the clips here on RUclips? It’s worth a look.
@@Trekkie_boy I've seen them somewhere but I can't remember where now. It would have been a different film but who knows how well it would have done by comparison or how much those of us who love the film as we know it would have thought of it with Eric Stoltz. He's a very good actor though so I expect it would have still been good just far less tongue-in-cheek perhaps. John.
I've got the 4K boxset to work through and its been on the shelf here for a little while, I've heard nothing but good things about it. I got round to watching a solid favourite of mine on BluRay at the weekend, North Sea Hijack (1980) with Roger Moore and Anthony Perkins. I'd bought it and took a chance on the Blu assuming it wouldn't look any worse than the R2 DVD I own and I wasn't disappointed, I've not seen any reviews of it but to me it looked wonderful with only a handful of rough scenes. Recommended.
I have the Universal 8 2x400ft Super 8 release of North Sea Hijack which was purchased in 1980 I think. I've always liked it. Roger Moore is terrific in that one. John.
The spinach in Biff's tooth is visible in the 4k. For years I never noticed it and yet considering the structure of the character it should have been immediately assumed.
I can't even remember it now Kurt. A great film though and I will enjoy it again soon... hopefully.
Thank you. I really enjoy your reviews.
Thank you. More to come soon if all goes to plan. John.
BACK TO THE FUTURE is one of the very few films that you can own on basically every home video format ever created betamax, VHS, V2000, VHD, VCD, LaserDisc, LaserDisc MUSE "Hi-Vision", D-VHS, DVD, VCD, HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, 4K Ultra HD. i'm sure i'm missing some.
That's amazing in itself William. I wonder if many people have managed to collect every format. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if there were pirated Super 8 feature prints in Italy or somewhere like that. John.
Hi John another great review! Any chance of a Ben Hur 4k review on the horizon? Just heard Spielberg is about to release his film version of West Side Story. Preview looks good but somehow like the re make of the Ben Hur mish mash I think some films are best left alone. The 1961 version is terrific. Why do it again ? Heard once they were going to remake My Fair Lady!
i didn't know Ben-Hur had been released so I'll need to check that. I will certainly purchase a copy of that if/when it's out and given that it was a 65mm shoot for 70mm release I think we all know how good that will be dependent on the best surviving master. Likewise I know nothing about Spielberg's West Side Story but he always brings something extra special to a production so as much as I don't like musicals (usually) this may be one I'll actually enjoy. And that's similar to My Fair Lady really because it was just that little bit different that they got away with the cast members suddenly breaking into song. Shame the negative for that one perished but I plan to cover that in a future video. John.
This video was an unexpected treat.
Thanks Sean. John.
Hi John. I would’ve picked this up already but you had to buy the whole box set which I didn’t fancy to be honest. There’s a few 4K discs I have my eye on, Willy Wonka, Ran, Indiana Jones. Might have to treat myself soon.
We've seen some other really good ones over this past month Danny so I plan to do a round-up video of those next. Might do 'My Fair Lady' separately though as so many people have mentioned that one... and it ain't quite as good as most have thought so I want to go into the reasons for that. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I’d really be interested on your opinion of The Fog maybe one day John. I’d heard negative comments regarding the upgrade to 4K but looking at a 4K comparison video on RUclips the 4K looks incredible.
@@danboy77 Don't expect one of the best video transfers you've ever seen Danny because just like Halloween it never looked like a top notch 35mm but i'm sure they've changed some things if they've gone back to the original camera negative, interpositive or internegative and have done some excellent grading. I haven't seen the 4K but I'm confident it will be the best version we've ever been offered as a home movie but I will be sticking with my Super 8 'Scope print because nothing matches the magic of a physical film quietly drumming through a projector. John.
Great review John, I do like the Back to the Future movies, i have bought they set but still yet to watch them, i will have to get around to it
Maybe try the first one on its own and wait a while to enjoy the sequels. That way there is little chance of spoiling the first film at all. I might give the sequels a go again in the future as I'm sure I'll enjoy them as standalone films. John.
Loving the steel book
It is rather nice. Glad I purchased it and avoided the expense of the three film box... as well as the possible disappointment if I still find the sequels spoil the original for me. John.
Spielberg always said 1941 returned a profit not a jaws or CE3K profit but none the less a profit.
Oh and the best time travel film ever in my opinion ‘The Amazing Mr Blunden’.
I too love The Amazing Mr. Blunden. I saw it at the cinema as a child and the magic always stayed with me. I think it's out on Blu-ray now so I'll have to finally upgrade from the DVD.
Deja Vu is another good time twisting movie.
John.
Love the 1st movie,like you I enjoyed the next 2 but never matched the original.
I remember watching Time After Time years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Have you had a chance to watch Doctor Sleep yet John, keep up the good work 👍
I have watched Doctor Sleep Gary but you're going to have to wait to find out what I think about it... here's a clue though - bloody excellent! All being well I'll get a 4K round-up video done soon and it will be in that. Then there might be something else further down the line that I'm trying to get a few other reviewers to input on but that's up in the air at the moment. John.
@@moviecollector5920 look forward to seeing it John
Based on what I've seen, the 4K is a massive improvement over the 1080p Blu-ray, which had all the film grain scrubbed clean, resulting in a lack of texture.
Well the the Blu-ray in this 4K pack isn't anywhere near the quality of the 4K disc either. It's unusual for a 4K to be immediately perceptibly better but this is one of them. Don't think the Blu-ray is the one you describe though so purchasing the latest Blu-ray isn't worth it, everyone's got to go the 4K route if this is one of their favourite films. John.
I have seen and read enough reviews and concluded that "the first one is the only good one" is a type of elitism. Like announcing your preference makes you a man of culture, smarter than others. I do like your honesty here, how you made it clear your preference for seeing Back to the Future as self contained, is a preference. No one is obligated to like or accept sequels, and you definitely do not have to like any movie. Basically I want to spread the message of "sequels are neither good or bad, it always depends".
Very true. I like many films with sequels and most notable probably the Phantasm films but I also enjoy a couple of the Alien sequels with Aliens being one of my favourite films almost up there with Alien. A few of the Star Wars sequels have been very good too and probably plenty of other films that spawned sequels have good ones such as Mission Impossible where the sixth film might be the best of the lot. I only ever saw the Back to the Future sequels once and they spoiled the original for me so the simple solution for me is to not watch them again. But I did enjoy seeing the extract from one of the sequels at film at Film Is Fabulous in Leicester on 35mm last year.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I see you are like me, in the "it depends" camp. I'll also add that I like the Alien prequels, but that is like saying "Jesus was a philosopher" in the Middle Ages. I am now a target, better run.
@@NotOrdinaryInGames I'm not sure I care much for the Alien prequels. I did try to like Prometheus and much of it I did like but quite a lot of it somehow didn't feel right to me. I have only seen the second prequel once and I thought the first hour was better than the second. I might actually run my Alien 35mm print today as I want to see if the Dolby Digital track is 100% now that I have the Dolby CP500 processor working... well, almost working! John.
@@moviecollector5920 Well, you don't need to like, or even watch the Alien prequels. But you still need to know the following trivia if you consider yourself a fan of the original. Ridley Scott wanted to do a prequel after the first movie, but was pressured into making sequels that repeat the original's premise. So he wanted to explain the origin of the xenomorph for a while. Another thing is, I watched a fan made extended version of Prometheus, based on an unreleased extended cut indented for iMax (it did not happen sadly). The extended cut puts back almost all of the deleted scenes, including the Wayland speech that took place several decades before the movie proper. Thankfully, it seems like all the deleted scenes are on some Bluray version, so it is possible for anyone to make it.
@@NotOrdinaryInGames In a similar way to Alien 3 I sort of pretend the film doesn't exist. The difference is that I can watch Prometheus, I just don't associate it with the great 1979 film so it doesn't spoil it for me. John.
Don't judge me , but I've never been a fan of star wars and back to the future films ,just childish in my opinion, seen them all ,year ago and that was it.
btw ,you have to review THE THING coming in less than a month in the UK on 4K. I cannot wait, steelbook looks great.
I will get The Thing but I won't be in any particular rush as I already have it three or four times over so far. So I don't want any of the fripperies, I just want the 4K disc and that's it. As for not liking Star Wars or Back To The Future it's probably because you saw them years ago when they were current and the time wasn't right. I think everyone can appreciate them today even if they don't think they're the best films ever made. I think Back To The Future plays better today than it ever did. John.
I love your videos. Very educational
Thank you. That was the plan when I started because I hadn't seen any disc reviewers who understood genuine film i.e 35mm etc. John.
Back to the future - in my top 10 of all time. Earth Angel was my wedding dance song.... complete masterpiece
It is a wonderful film with one of the most memorable scores ever. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yes - it’s incredible - always a sense of wonder within the score and I just think the dialogue is so clever and witty. “Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain.”
@@ColonelSternlove There aren't many productions that could ever have gotten away with a ridiculous line like that but in Back To The Future, it simply worked. John.
How I wish I could go back in time and tell my teenage self to see the first one in a theater. I thought it was going to be lame. How wrong I was. It was the second film that was lame! I hated it. Thankfully I did thoroughly enjoy the third and final film.
I saw Romancing the Stone at the cinema. I was just 12 years old but I remember it like it was yesterday. That was one hell of a fantastic film.
I too missed Back To The Future in the cinema but I was just starting out in life then and a mortgage and a car meant more was going out than coming in so no possibility of anything else.
I too think Romancing The Stone is terrific. Didn't particularly care for the follow-up though. John.
Afternoon John. Back To The Future is a favourite but I don't rate the sequels at all. It's the only film I saw more than once on the big screen. Wasn't the laserdisc 1.66:1? I know my DVD is 1.85:1 have you any idea why the aspect ratios get tampered with occasionally these days. I think I've had a laserdisc of Top Gun in 2.1:1 and the same with previous versions of Apocalypse Now. Time After Time is a good un. In the opening scenes there's a brief shot of a pair of white gloves covered in blood, for some reason they scared me to death when I was a nipper. I picked up the Blu-ray a while ago, good to see it again after all those years.
Time After Time is.... timeless even though it's clearly dated a little. But that's part of its appeal. By the way, I read 'nipper' as 'ripper' which gave me a good chuckle.
All these aspect ratios are approximations but there are a few things to bear in mind. The first is that the cinema 'widescreen' standard (i.e. not 'Scope) here and much of the European continent was 1.66:1 whereas in the USA it was 1.85:1. Often the films are shot 1.33:1 and mats used to mask off the gates in the projectors. The introduction of the so-called 'widescreen' format on LaserDisc and then VHS had to compromise as every television was 1.33:1 and so a little cropping at the sides would give a bigger picture and still not risk losing anything vital. All films can be cropped to a certain extent and most people would never notice even if the tops of heads were cut off or worse.
I hope that answers everything Steve.
John.
Thank you for this review.
It was a pleasure to make this one. A great film. John.
I like to see someone make a time travel film about the Twin Towers 9/11 attacks especially now on the 20th anniversary.
I suspect that would still be too raw a memory for people today but give it another decade or two. Maybe you should start writing the script! John.
Thank you John for your reviews. You should set up a Patreon account!
Thank you Diego. I don't want to go down that route but I appreciate the suggestion. If people sitting through a few adverts can't fund all the discs I purchase to do this now i've gone down that route then I think I'll be doing something wrong. John.
Hello John, I have ordered a take up reel so I can watch my close encounters on super 8 film. I watched the 4K last night and I found some some shots had a gloomy filter on the top and bottom of the screen, did you have this problem on your disc? Im sure it is just something to do with the film or lens. Thanks! Have a great day!
I haven't re-watched it again yet but when I do I'll keep an eye out for it. I don't know what it could be without seeing it but be careful not to state something categoric in a review with things like this because none of us really know why some scenes appear to have flaws with them as we weren't there are the time so can only make educated guesses. My recollection of the 4K of Close Encounters is that it's very good. I only watched the original version, certainly didn't want to see the Special Edition again but may give the third cut a go next time. I think I'll still prefer the original version though. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I watched the directors cut since I wanted to see the most content, it was slow as some points but I overall enjoyed it. Thanks
@@ClarkTeddles I think there's one scene from the Director's Cut I'd put in the original version and that's the special effect with the shadow of the UFO following the Land Rover or whatever type of jeep Richard Dreyfuss is driving when he's out early on looking for the cause of the power outage. Other than that, just a money making exercise although I should say that Steven Spielberg felt he'd had to rush the film in 1977/78 and it was a little unfinished. To get a budget for re-shoots and re-editing the studio made him show the inside of the alien ship which destroyed the film as the mystery was gone. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Oh I 100% agree, the shadow of the ufo passing through the field looks amazing, great shot!
Back to the Future is the best trilogy of all time IMO. I've always loved Part III and I think it's getting more recognition as time has went on, especially since 2015 has came and went 😂 However, the original is without a doubt the best. Classic and masterpiece is thrown about all too often these days, but Back to the Future is definitely a masterpiece and a classic!
I haven't seen the sequels in a long time Shamrock and I'm not quite ready to see them again yet. Maybe one day. That original film is so good I don't want to run the risk of spoiling it. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks John, but I gaurentee it will not ruin the original. It will only enhance the series :)
@@shamrockballs1066 I did enjoy them all originally but the sequels rather spoiled the first film for me so I haven't watched any of them again until now. That's why I opted for the original film on its own... that and the fact that the box with all three is a little expensive! John.
@@moviecollector5920 That's true about he price John. Interesting, can I ask why the sequels spoilt the original for you?
I grew up watching them, so I loved the adventure side, especially Part 2 and the flying delorean! And the western setting never bothered me. I love how they rounded out the trilogy with a story about Doc, and Marty is really the master of ceromonys of the whole series. The only thing I didn't like was the Train time machine! As I got older, and as a teen I really fell in love with the original. I can understand to a certain degree why people would hold the original in higher regard, the 50s time period, the music and the love story. It really didn't need a sequel and in hindsight it really is an 80s movie and of its time. Plus I think there is more of a realistic grittier edge to the original (as realistic you can get in a movie about tie travel lol) where as the sequels became a bit more cartoonish, even though the first sequel is a lot darker than the original imo. I also missed Crispin Glover as George, but loved Thomas Wilson as the various versions of Biff and his relatives.
@@shamrockballs1066 You've largely summed it all up there Shamrock but in addition Michael J. Fox was clearly older which adversely affected the sequels. But the big thing was the ending of the original was so perfectly tied up and with that little bit of mystery that was left to your own imagination it made for a near perfect film. Nothing was ever going to live up to it and as I saw it when I was into my 20s I was almost grown up! As a result, I was more aware of flaws in films but not quite like I am today. I still like all the films I loved as a youngster and you've only got to look at my Phantasm review to see how films can affect us when we're young. If I saw Phantasm for the first time today I doubt I'd feel the same way about it at all. It also helped that I was able to get reels of some of my favourite films on Super 8 to run on a big screen and Phantasm was one of those.
John.
I loved time after time as a child...I haven’t seen it as an adult...I hope your getting John carpenters the thing on 4K as I’d love to hear your thoughts on how great a job universal have done on it...and they have
I will get The Thing Barrie but I don't think I'll be in any particular hurry. I was happy with the LaserDisc but since then I've purchased it on DVD and Blu-ray but although I know the script and every single frame of the film I will no doubt enjoy the new transfer when I get it. Time After Time may have dated a bit but there's no getting around the fact that it's hugely enjoyable. John.
Will you please do a video on mulholland Dr upcoming 4k blu ray release by criterion in November?
Might do. I haven't seen that in a long time but I can't afford them all. John.
Great video. All the best.
Another great 4K that's worth a purchase Pero.
@@moviecollector5920 Must have...
Great review
Great comment Stephanie. Ever get that feeling of Deja Vu? John.
@@moviecollector5920 you bet
Wait, so it's a UK/Ireland release with the cover of the steelbook in Japanese...?
Seems like it. I think it's the same as the Blu-ray steelbook special edition that HMV sold as 'exclusive'. It's very nice though. John.
John meant to ask if you have seen /thoughts on Coppolas' remake of The Godfather part 3 now named "The death of Michael Corleone" I have the Blu Ray Box Set with the additional disc of special features etc. I was given the additional Blu Ray disc to add to it.
However i prefer the original version especially the end scene. For the amount of change Coppola did I think there wasn't much to warrant buying it myself.
Don't tell anyone Mike, but i've never seen Godfather 3. I didn't particularly enjoy the first two films and have simply never gotten around to seeing the third one yet. I have 1 and 2 on gatefold LaserDisc but I've only ever played them once. I know that's probably hard to believe but I still can't face them again after all these years. One day and then I expect I'll see them for the great works that they are. John.
Always loved Time after Time! How would you rate the transfer?
It's not the best you're ever going to see but it's adequate and once you're into the film it doesn't really matter. Some scenes that others would think are due to transfer issues are actually camera issues on the day of filming. There wasn't immediate replay on high quality video screens in those days and the budgets and time didn't exist to go back and re-shoot scenes unless they were a total disaster. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks so much for the information! I have spent a lot lately on discs so I might get it for Xmas... Great Channel
@@darkpoethd9913 I got it in the 2 for £15 HMV offer. This is for two of the premium collection of titles hence the post cards and the poster... which may not be brilliant but that's a feature of the Premium Collection unless there's a DVD + Blu-ray then you just get one or the other or sometimes a booklet. Currently it's 2 for £25 so it will be worth hanging on to see if another sale comes along. John.
RCA CED and victor VHD releases for back to the future is also exist
Just a shame there wasn't a 1980s Super 8 feature to add to that list because that would have been cinema quality for the home before it ever really existed! John.
Where can I buy just the first film on 4k?
If you're in the UK then HMV have it. They didn't have it in our local store so I ordered it through their on-line shop and it was here two days later. I think they've woken up to the threat from Amazon which has succeeded in all but killing our high streets. John.
That's really to bad that 1941 was unsuccessful because I love that movie. Its silly but just so funny. The Back to the Future movies are really classic movies. Very enjoyable to watch.
I too thought 1941 was much better than it was given credit for Stephen. Haven't seen it in a looooooong time though. John.
Glad to hear this is a good presentation. The previous bluray was pretty rubbish.
The Blu-ray in this isn't a patch on the 4K so no change there. It is one of those night and day examples so possibly the original Blu-ray you cited is in this pack. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I'd hope they updated the original 2010 release by now. It suffered a lot from DNR and edge enhancement.
Have you had a chance to watch the other two back to the future films yet?
I saw them both years ago. Don't want to see them again as I felt that they spoiled the original so I pretend they don't exist. Might try them again one day though. John.
If I buy this, I'll have 3 copies. DVD, Blu-Ray, and now 4K. How many times can studios sucker us into buying the same films over and over?
The one that I've purchased the most is Jaws so I know exactly what you mean Josh. I have Jaws on Super 8 (two different versions), LaserDisc, DVD, Blu-ray and 4K. The 4K is special though so I'm pleased to have it and it is the same case with Back To The Future I'm afraid because it is so superior to the Blu-ray... and that's unusual. John.
Does anyone here know whether Back to the Future was originally filmed in *35 mm* film or *70 mm* ?
If the master was shot on 70 mm, then it would still look *excellent* on *8K* !
But if it was recorded on 35 mm, then it would require some *upconversion* to 8K, meaning that some details would be "lost."
35mm. To get everything from 35mm onto video via a scanner the evidence currently suggests about 5.6K. 70mm would be around 15K and IMAX around 45K. John.
Well, pretty sure there was VHS of all and perhaps even Beta of at least the first one, way before laserdisc.
Yes, I first saw the film on VHS but it was crap. I don't know how we ever put up with VHS really but thankfully LaserDisc soon became more readily available and in PAL format was so much better that that was the end of tape for me. Super 8 was still king of home cinema through it all. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Never did the Super 8 route, but like you, I went laserdisc as soon as I could. I converted when widescreen (letterbox) editions came out. My first two were Criterion's 'Blade Runner' and Fox's 'Aliens' Special Edition.
@@RenePeraza LaserDisc was all set to go 16x9 but I suppose television didn't progress as quickly as expected. But I do have the 16x9 button in my player ready to unsqueeze any discs issued in the format. Shame. I purchased quite a few VHS tapes but very few of them were of an acceptable quality. Hard to believe people put up with it really but CRT was so much better than modern television sets for disguising any foibles or inadequacies so that was a big help. John.
Zavvi doing trilogy 4k for 40 pounds no steelbook though which is a beauty.
I'd have been tempted at that price but I do like having that steelbook. I never used to go in for these sort of special editions but it's the other chaps who do reviews on RUclips who've got me into them. John.
@@moviecollector5920 same here, I got 3 BTTF standard bluray steelbooks months ago to which I have now placed the 4k copy into each one. Cracking channel. Funny reading your response I could hear your voice as if you were right next to me 🤣🤣
@@Deshams These reviewers on RUclips are costing us a lot of money! Sorry, if I gave you the impression I was standing next to you Deshams! Rest assured I'm not in two places at once and I am actually sitting here editing the next review video together. This one's going to be for these four films: Doctor Sleep, Lucy, The Goonies and Fast & Furious 8 - all on 4K. I would have got it just about done by now but I've had hours of phone calls and visitors to deal with so it's not been a particularly productive day really. I hope it will be enjoyable for fellow film enthusiasts when it's done and uploaded though. The plan is to get it live on Friday evening. John.
The blu ray lacks the colour or the (density) 🤣 was that intentional John?
I think so Leon. I'll have to watch the video again but to clarify, the standard Blu-ray does not have the exceptional colour or density of the UHD Blu-ray. If density is confusing I'm referring to contrast/brightness. John.
@@moviecollector5920 i totally understood John, I'm referencing this famous scene from the Back to the Future movie. ruclips.net/video/PqKmb7SSpTE/видео.html
@@brookes79 Oh, I've got it now Leon. No, it wasn't intentional. I use 'density' when explaining how good, or not, the image quality is. Sorry about that! John.
They are good movies
The sequels are enjoyable but the first one is a classic and like so many classics it seems to get better as the years go on. John.
love this movie.
And it's a very good 4K release of it too Ben. John.
@@moviecollector5920 i know i got the 4k box set, except there is one scene in the first movie where Marty is writing the letter to doc in the café, where the picture quality looks totally Strange also the scene where he is sitting in the car with his mom there is a few seconds where this also happens, otherwise it looks very good.
@@benjaminjensen7402 I don't recall either of those Ben but I watched this quite a while ago. It's possible something went wrong on the day these scenes were shot and there wasn't the time to go back and re-shoot. Could also be optical blow-ups to re-frame a scene from how it was shot.
John.
Got all 3 on 4k.for £36. Oddly 3d one lookt the best
Now if I'd have seen the three film pack for £36 Matthew I reckon I'd have come home with it too. But the steelbook is rather nice. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yes looks ace. But first one my favourite film s. Watch over and over lol