I bought a quest 3 in January, first time I got into VR. ILL never downgrade moving forward. I have had so much Value with my quest 3 that if it sold for 1000 dollars I would have paid that.
@@TheMattVad3r for $300 it's so worth it. It can do everything the quest 3 does, and it can do better at night and it has a passthrough button. When the quest 4 or whatever launches with features or processing power the quest 3S lacks is when I'll consider the pancake lenses.
@@niikibo7734 Go for it. Don't listen to these RUclipsrs. They have money so they're chilling for the normal quest 3. The quest 3s is amazing for the money it costs.
@@danngggit's targeted to those that want to upgrade from the quest 2 whitout spending 500 on the quest 3 since in a relative near future the quest 4 will come out 🤷🏻♂️ That's why i've preordered it
For PCVR only use a Q3S is essentially just a Q2. Same lenses, same screen resolution, may as well just pick up a Q2 if your only use case is PCVR stuff. That said, if you intend to use it as a standalone headset as well the Q3S is probably the best value for the money you could ask for.
This is not right. The wifi6e support will make a difference, as long as you have the fitting router. It will be able to run higher encoding bitrates (same as q3) stably (so less compression artifacts).And the decoding will be faster. But that beeing said, it is not the fitting hmd for flight sims.
@@74amazing I’m aware of VD is but if you’re sitting directly at the computer anyway I don’t know why you’d choose wireless and a battery over a powered cable. To each their own.
If you are only considering PCVR, yes, it makes sense. My dream would be a pancake lenses VR headset without any internal processor, only for PCVR. Of course, with the price reflecting that as well. I am not interested in standalone VR and If I need that, Quest 2 that I already have is good enough. Unfortunately, no options.
I have an Oculus CV1 as well as many other VR HMD's. The new pancake lenses are infinitely better in every way. It is a worthwhile upgrade to get a modern HMD with better lenses.
Well...not all the fresnel lenses are the same. The G2 are the worst , they have the worst sweet spot in any VR headset. Try Pico Neo 3 Link and those lenses are the best fresnel ever made.
I would love a Pico 4 but they’re INSANELY expensive right now, I want to get into VR and PCVR, is it really that bad to get this just to dip my toes in and upgrade to a Pimax crystal light or something like that down the line?
I bought a reg Q3 after my G2 died (still miss it, would still be using it). The price I got the G2 for was fantastic. But the money I just spent on the Crystal Light, so freaking worth it!
Ok, so if you don't own any VR and all you have is a glitchy trackir, what's the downside of saving $200. Especially if the PC has a mid range processor/video card?
Question if I may.. last vr headset I owned was a playstation vr first gen. And loved it but sold everything when I converted to pc. I build a gaming pc with ryzen 7 5800X and have a 4070 super. Does having a current gen GPU matter to the quality I'm getting to the headset? Will the quest 3s perform better and look sharper because I have a 4070 super? I really want to get back into the vr world but paying an extra 200 on top of the 300 price tag might be a deal-breaker
your setup is perfect for PCVR (of course: MS-Fligthsim can not have enough power.. but: tahts also the most demanding "Game" out there.. all other games will work very fine with your 4070 super and 5800x)
Thanks Steve for the update. I can't believe it but after seeing some real production units of the Crystal Light with good feedback reviews, (not preproduction units), decided to finally make the change from the G2, FINALLY, LOL!!!! Also with MSFS2024 out soon, with proper multi-threading support; "Should" get similar performance boost like what I saw in DCS for a NON-4090 GPU powered PC and be able to use the higher native resolution the Light offers! (Plus 5000 series is just around the corner too!) [Thanks NVIDIA for helping out my retirement portfolio this year, LOL!] This year spending a fortune on upgrades: Home built 7800X3D system; Buttkicker Gamer Pro; Thrustmaster TPR Pedals, (already had Warthog setup). Hummm, were did I leave that phone number for Igor at DOFF Reality........... He, He, He!!!!!
My pleasure mate. Congrats on your new CL purchase, please do keep me updated with how you get on. Any issues, be sure to post up in my Discord. Sounds like you are set for MSFS 2024 now.. apart from maybe the motion rig ;) Best wishes.
@@CaptainBiggles. Nope, worse audio (still a big fan of the Index/G2 audio system ), not much improved/same FOV, overall picture quality couldnt convince me to change
@@IchGlaubEsHacktWohl what about Pimax Crystal light with DMAS headphones then? Longer wait time and also more expensive then q3 but if you buy without controllers it's not too bad. You do have to be aware that you have a dice roll on whether your lenses are good or not, my one came with a defective left lens, which I could still play with, but I reached out to Pimax Support and within 48 hours they had told me that I could have replacement lenses for free
$299 does not equal around £290, at todays exchange rate is is around £223. £290 may unfortunately be what we end up paying in the UK, but what you said wasn’t accurate.
I agree completely. In addition to flight sim, the pancake lenses are also indispensable for reading text… if you own a Galaxy, the Quest 3 and Samsung DEX are a match made in heaven.
I saw an advert for it yesterday and thought sound interesting for the price but then looked at the spec and thought don’t think this’ll do for flight sim
Since the release of the 3 people fixing maintaining the 3 and meta have the opportunity to improve . the construction when they released the 3s,,, which might make it cheaper to maintain if broken
im new to VR so im gonna get one. Yeah, I want to check out MSFS in VR, but im not a hardcore flight simmer. also both PCVR for games but standalone for entertainment seems really useful, and mixed reality also sounds awesome.
If the lenses are like the G2 then I would avoid it. G2 was my first dive into VR and the tiny but sharp sweet spot was horrible, at first I thought is was damaged. To look at anything in detail you have to train your head to move precisely while keeping eyes in the sweet spot. What a waste of £500 that was after all the reviewers saying it was the best at the time for that money. G2 sits in its box now and I use a pico 4 and will do so until it dies, then maybe get something better.
Youre simply setting yourself up for disappointment with VR using subpar hardware because its cheap. As far as Im concerned the Quest 3 should be the entry point in VR.
Quest 3 is easily the best wirless VR gaming and the most fun gaming in general not just in vr. Powerfull enough standalone directly from your headset, no artifact, fast latency without wired, clear lenses, only required one device to be turn on. If you planning only to use on desktop pc then get a Pimax Crystal Light or other displayport vr headset
The problem with the Quest 3 is the battery life. It doesn't take long to run the battery down while flight simming. It annoys me having to buy yet another expensive piece of equipment (a headband with an extended battery) to overcome poor design choices. Edit: Also, the passthrough quality is not good, being only beaten by the lousy B&W passthrough on SONY's PSVR2.
@@SonicCommenter don’t spend your money on a battery bank if you’re going to be sitting down in front of your PC. Get a link cable that can be plugged into an external power source.
Hey please help me. I was going to buy Quest 3s this evening just then i stumbled across your video. My pc is kinda mid ranged 4070 super Ryzen 5 7600 32 gb ram 2tb nvme. I dont currently have money or options to upgrade my pc specs in any way. But i do have a couple hundred dollars for vr. I want to experience VR on msfs2020, xplane 11 and dcs. Given my pc specs and my relatively low budget, do you think quest 3s will be sort of a more senseful choice or with that pc specs maybe i shouldn't bother about getting a vr to play those games?
I have Quest 3, but won't be using it for flight simming, either. The less-than-stellar binocular overlap (for my substantially wider-than-average IPD of 69mm), coupled with the noticeable screen door effect, due to the way the lenses are canted, makes using this headset for longer periods of time unpleasant enough to become distractingly immersion-breaking fairly quickly. I'll stay with my Pico 4 for now, while I debate whether or not to side-grade to the Pico 4 Ultra, or take a chance with Pimax's infamous QC, and bite the bullet to get a Crystal light. Or maybe wholly lose my mind, and save up to get a Bigsceen Beyond, despite its glare issues and cost-of-entry for someone who'd have buy EVERYTHING to enjoy its comfort factor.
It’s basically a Quest 3 but with the visuals (display and lenses) of a Quest 2. So from a PCVR point of view, yes, it’s barely distinguishable from a Quest 2. I think the Quest 2 is still good for PCVR, but it’s true that the display and especially the lenses are starting to look a bit dated!
You say that but have you ever tried the Q3 using Virtual Desktop? The VDXR is so much better than std OpenXR that its worth going wireless even if you dont need to be wireless, lol.
@@SpringChickensOnlyMan I had the Bobovr S3 with the 2nd battery. That worked ok but not perfect. Im some racing sims like AMS2 the headset would get hot and not charge. That said the problem exists for the link cable as well. For me it was never a huge issue but you needed to always f with it.
@@SpringChickensOnlyMan if you get a USB cable that can be plugged into external power you don’t have to worry about it with a Quest 3. It will stay charged far longer than anyone is going to use it.
yeah if you are only sim-ing a quest2 64gb will give just the same expierience as the 3s , So you could probably grab one super cheap while you save up for something better
well deh lol why would you wana go backwards and loose clarity if someone is already using a q2 or equivalent for pcvr why would you upgrade to something that's the exact same.. unless you wanted that colour pass threw to grab you beers and coffee without taking the headset off lol
Considering they (occulus/meta) grew their VR on PCVR, it's such a shame they have all but abandoned the PCVR market. C'mon Meta, a PCVR dedicated Q3 would be a godsend. No standalone, no wireless, just straightup PCVR. Would absolutely kill all the boutique VR brands ripping everyone off !!
@@brin57 - speak for yourself. 200mb/sec of AV1 10-bit at 137% of default resolution looks great on my Quest 3, & I will never use a wired headset again after experiencing both the quality & convenience of the Quest 3 on WiFi 6E.
The quest 3s is a quest 3,,,,, the electronics are identical,,,,, the only differences are the optics,,, and 128GB flash memory storage amount which saves $200 . 3s 128GB $299 ,,,, 3s 256GB $399 ,,,, and the quest 3 pancake optics & 512GB $499
If you are thinking of buying a Quest 3s, don't! If price is your concern, just buy a Quest 3 on the Play Now Pay Later payment plan. I think 3s starts at $20 per month and Q3 is only starting at $30 per month. The $30 price is very budget friendly, and without the compromise on the display or lenses.
$300 with Q3 specs? I’ll buy what I want sir 😂 but I get it, I’m not crazy about the fact that the headphone jack is missing and that it’s still fresnel lenses but that is part of what makes it so affordable
In rhe UK 128 GB Quest 3 is £409 brand new which makes that a no brainer over Quest 3S. Why on earth not oay £111 more and get pancake lenses, dual displays and better resolution?
Excellent flightsim-related review - am saving for Crystal light here:) Lots of comments from non-simmers and people who didnt actually watch the whole vid, so ignore - cheers as ever Steve
Meta has been hounding me for my date of birth on my account, and say I will not be able to continue using my Quest 3 unless I give it to them. Is this even legal? How can it be?
I was not happy about that one either. I have been using my High School grauadtion date as my online birthday...easy to rember and if hackers get it, it really wont matter🤣
Why would anyone even think the q3s is even a decent option for hardcore flight simmers? It’s the downgraded q3 that’s already been out for a year. Just click / rage bait thumbnail nonsense.
You are someone with the opposite of someone who has less on... quest garbage is destroying the VR gaming world .. crap graphics do to limited memory.. resolution drops off as power gets lower.. detail is garbage ..lacks texture quality.. and already a few good PC VR games are suffering .. ALL THE QUEST IS , IS A GLORIFIED PHONE STUCK IN A CRAPPY UNCONFORTABLE GOGGLES.. SO please stop the BS QUEST ANYTING SUCKS!.. My old pair of HP Reverb G2s kills any of these quest junk side by side comparison... just do some actual research.. They say $299.99 then count all the other addons then it adds up quickly to somewhere over $450.00 to $500.00 .. NO THANK YOU! my friend just bought a set and took them back the next day..
I bought a quest 3 in January, first time I got into VR. ILL never downgrade moving forward. I have had so much Value with my quest 3 that if it sold for 1000 dollars I would have paid that.
im not listening to you. im getiing it
Fr, idk what people want from a 300$ vr, They can spend as much money as they want for their pancake lenses, I'ma be chilling with my quest 3s
@@TheMattVad3r for $300 it's so worth it. It can do everything the quest 3 does, and it can do better at night and it has a passthrough button.
When the quest 4 or whatever launches with features or processing power the quest 3S lacks is when I'll consider the pancake lenses.
Can update me on your experience I want to get the 3s for my first go at dcs and vr
@@niikibo7734 Go for it. Don't listen to these RUclipsrs. They have money so they're chilling for the normal quest 3. The quest 3s is amazing for the money it costs.
Nobody watching this channel will buy a Quest 3S.
It will sell tens of millions, and probably become the 3rd or 2nd most popular on SteamVR.
Exaccctly. Both points which I've already made in this video.
It’s targeted more the casual vr audience tbh
I think I will get it to just watch movie to be honest
@@danngggit's targeted to those that want to upgrade from the quest 2 whitout spending 500 on the quest 3 since in a relative near future the quest 4 will come out 🤷🏻♂️
That's why i've preordered it
Yup, i just did the same to replace my quest 2. @@ZOD-VR
For PCVR only use a Q3S is essentially just a Q2. Same lenses, same screen resolution, may as well just pick up a Q2 if your only use case is PCVR stuff. That said, if you intend to use it as a standalone headset as well the Q3S is probably the best value for the money you could ask for.
This is not right. The wifi6e support will make a difference, as long as you have the fitting router. It will be able to run higher encoding bitrates (same as q3) stably (so less compression artifacts).And the decoding will be faster. But that beeing said, it is not the fitting hmd for flight sims.
@@74amazing I assumed anyone using this for flight simming would be using a cable.
@@Thezuule1 I don't think so. VD works great with it - you will find vids about this even on this channel.
@@74amazing I’m aware of VD is but if you’re sitting directly at the computer anyway I don’t know why you’d choose wireless and a battery over a powered cable. To each their own.
@@Thezuule1 Because of VDXR alone. More performance, more FPS. AV1 10-Bit codec is very nice too.
If you are only considering PCVR, yes, it makes sense. My dream would be a pancake lenses VR headset without any internal processor, only for PCVR. Of course, with the price reflecting that as well. I am not interested in standalone VR and If I need that, Quest 2 that I already have is good enough. Unfortunately, no options.
Bigscreen Beyond. Except for the wanting it to be cheap part. High resolution OLED panels is expensive.
@@SargonDragon thats expensive lol, i use my oculus rift cv1 for PCVR
I have a Oculus Rift CV 1 and it's fine. Who needs pass through when you have a nose gap?
I have an Oculus CV1 as well as many other VR HMD's. The new pancake lenses are infinitely better in every way. It is a worthwhile upgrade to get a modern HMD with better lenses.
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Fresnel Lenses are so 2023, lol. I hated that on the Reverb G2 more than anything else. The Q3 lenses alone made that upgrade worth it.
So 2018...
when g2 was out fresnel was the only option
Well...not all the fresnel lenses are the same. The G2 are the worst , they have the worst sweet spot in any VR headset. Try Pico Neo 3 Link and those lenses are the best fresnel ever made.
@@HDRGamingHub Fresnel lenses are all bad. Im not buying another, lol. Perhaps some are worse but they all suck.
@@TheGreatRepeller That is your opinion. I don't even know how you can have an opinion when you only had the G2.
It sounds like VR performance for MSFS2024 isn't going to be any better than the performance in 2020.
It has already been said in one of the dev blogs that VR in 2024 will be comparable to 2020 performance wise.
When MSFS20 came out it didn't even support VR. Based on the architecture changes in multithreading alone I think you're full of shite, lol.
I would love a Pico 4 but they’re INSANELY expensive right now, I want to get into VR and PCVR, is it really that bad to get this just to dip my toes in and upgrade to a Pimax crystal light or something like that down the line?
I bought a reg Q3 after my G2 died (still miss it, would still be using it). The price I got the G2 for was fantastic. But the money I just spent on the Crystal Light, so freaking worth it!
That display is so good hey 👌
Dude I concur. I had mine for a week now, coming from a G2 as well, and I enjoy every bit of it.
I never found it worth it just sold mine and kept the q3
Ok, so if you don't own any VR and all you have is a glitchy trackir, what's the downside of saving $200. Especially if the PC has a mid range processor/video card?
Question if I may.. last vr headset I owned was a playstation vr first gen. And loved it but sold everything when I converted to pc. I build a gaming pc with ryzen 7 5800X and have a 4070 super. Does having a current gen GPU matter to the quality I'm getting to the headset? Will the quest 3s perform better and look sharper because I have a 4070 super? I really want to get back into the vr world but paying an extra 200 on top of the 300 price tag might be a deal-breaker
did you figure this out? i want to know the same thing
your setup is perfect for PCVR
(of course: MS-Fligthsim can not have enough power.. but: tahts also the most demanding "Game" out there.. all other games will work very fine with your 4070 super and 5800x)
Thanks Steve for the update. I can't believe it but after seeing some real production units of the Crystal Light with good feedback reviews, (not preproduction units), decided to finally make the change from the G2, FINALLY, LOL!!!! Also with MSFS2024 out soon, with proper multi-threading support; "Should" get similar performance boost like what I saw in DCS for a NON-4090 GPU powered PC and be able to use the higher native resolution the Light offers! (Plus 5000 series is just around the corner too!) [Thanks NVIDIA for helping out my retirement portfolio this year, LOL!] This year spending a fortune on upgrades: Home built 7800X3D system; Buttkicker Gamer Pro; Thrustmaster TPR Pedals, (already had Warthog setup). Hummm, were did I leave that phone number for Igor at DOFF Reality........... He, He, He!!!!!
My pleasure mate. Congrats on your new CL purchase, please do keep me updated with how you get on. Any issues, be sure to post up in my Discord. Sounds like you are set for MSFS 2024 now.. apart from maybe the motion rig ;) Best wishes.
@@VRFlightSimGuy Will do Steve. (Almost forgot you had a Discord!)
The new Q3 has 4k with wider view and higher res with better lenses, does it not?
Thanks for the advice. I shall save for the full on Quest 3, then. :)
Will I ever see a worthy sucessor for my G2 which is literally better by any means?
Quest 3
@@CaptainBiggles. Nope, worse audio (still a big fan of the Index/G2 audio system ), not much improved/same FOV, overall picture quality couldnt convince me to change
@@IchGlaubEsHacktWohl Crystal Light? Maybe with better QC (and form factor)
@@IchGlaubEsHacktWohl what about Pimax Crystal light with DMAS headphones then? Longer wait time and also more expensive then q3 but if you buy without controllers it's not too bad. You do have to be aware that you have a dice roll on whether your lenses are good or not, my one came with a defective left lens, which I could still play with, but I reached out to Pimax Support and within 48 hours they had told me that I could have replacement lenses for free
@@VRFlightSimGuy FOV is basically the same as G2 (with mod) and my #1 prio 😀, plus cablebound… I have to wait I guess
Is it safe already to buy a Crystal Light - have Pimax solved their quality control issues?
I got mine about 3 weeks ago I I love it, no issues for me.
@@greaper1878 It was mentioned here on the channel a lot but not all had issues. Glad to hear yours is fine!
If you read the Pimax reddit, it still seems that some people are experiencing issues.
@@anthonymoloney3671 Thanks!
Ty for this perspective. I agree 100%
Some yt influencers overhype the new headset. For simmers it makes no sense at all.
Meta Ambassadors for you ;)
Thanks for the video. Lots of options to consider in the VR world right now and this helps flight sim fans make decisions.
No problem 👍
But you still get quest 3 exclusive games that won't release on quest 2
$299 does not equal around £290, at todays exchange rate is is around £223. £290 may unfortunately be what we end up paying in the UK, but what you said wasn’t accurate.
"Discover the fun of mixed reality and get Batman: Arkham Shadow included with your purchase.*
Starting at £289.99"
- From the Meta website.
I agree completely. In addition to flight sim, the pancake lenses are also indispensable for reading text… if you own a Galaxy, the Quest 3 and Samsung DEX are a match made in heaven.
I saw an advert for it yesterday and thought sound interesting for the price but then looked at the spec and thought don’t think this’ll do for flight sim
GamerMuscle said that the Quest 3 had better PCVR performance than the Quest 2 though, wonder if anyone can confirm this
Are the pancake lenses of the standard Quest 3 better than the VR1 aspherical lenses? Is the sweet spot of the Q3 better as well?
Since the release of the 3 people fixing maintaining the 3 and meta have the opportunity to improve
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the construction when they released the 3s,,, which might make it cheaper to maintain if broken
Atleast this is better than Quest 2 since it will stop the connection of support for 2, right..?
im new to VR so im gonna get one. Yeah, I want to check out MSFS in VR, but im not a hardcore flight simmer. also both PCVR for games but standalone for entertainment seems really useful, and mixed reality also sounds awesome.
That totally makes sense. Welcome to VR my friend.
If the lenses are like the G2 then I would avoid it. G2 was my first dive into VR and the tiny but sharp sweet spot was horrible, at first I thought is was damaged. To look at anything in detail you have to train your head to move precisely while keeping eyes in the sweet spot. What a waste of £500 that was after all the reviewers saying it was the best at the time for that money. G2 sits in its box now and I use a pico 4 and will do so until it dies, then maybe get something better.
Youre simply setting yourself up for disappointment with VR using subpar hardware because its cheap. As far as Im concerned the Quest 3 should be the entry point in VR.
Get the Quest 3 or save up until you can afford it.
Quest 3 is easily the best wirless VR gaming and the most fun gaming in general not just in vr. Powerfull enough standalone directly from your headset, no artifact, fast latency without wired, clear lenses, only required one device to be turn on.
If you planning only to use on desktop pc then get a Pimax Crystal Light or other displayport vr headset
The problem with the Quest 3 is the battery life. It doesn't take long to run the battery down while flight simming. It annoys me having to buy yet another expensive piece of equipment (a headband with an extended battery) to overcome poor design choices.
Edit: Also, the passthrough quality is not good, being only beaten by the lousy B&W passthrough on SONY's PSVR2.
@@SonicCommenter don’t spend your money on a battery bank if you’re going to be sitting down in front of your PC. Get a link cable that can be plugged into an external power source.
Hey please help me. I was going to buy Quest 3s this evening just then i stumbled across your video.
My pc is kinda mid ranged
4070 super
Ryzen 5 7600
32 gb ram
2tb nvme.
I dont currently have money or options to upgrade my pc specs in any way.
But i do have a couple hundred dollars for vr.
I want to experience VR on msfs2020, xplane 11 and dcs.
Given my pc specs and my relatively low budget, do you think quest 3s will be sort of a more senseful choice or with that pc specs maybe i shouldn't bother about getting a vr to play those games?
hey man I love vr and have wanted to get into flight Sim but never could afford pc but now that I have a quest 3
I have Quest 3, but won't be using it for flight simming, either.
The less-than-stellar binocular overlap (for my substantially wider-than-average IPD of 69mm), coupled with the noticeable screen door effect, due to the way the lenses are canted, makes using this headset for longer periods of time unpleasant enough to become distractingly immersion-breaking fairly quickly.
I'll stay with my Pico 4 for now, while I debate whether or not to side-grade to the Pico 4 Ultra, or take a chance with Pimax's infamous QC, and bite the bullet to get a Crystal light.
Or maybe wholly lose my mind, and save up to get a Bigsceen Beyond, despite its glare issues and cost-of-entry for someone who'd have buy EVERYTHING to enjoy its comfort factor.
It’s basically a Quest 3 but with the visuals (display and lenses) of a Quest 2. So from a PCVR point of view, yes, it’s barely distinguishable from a Quest 2. I think the Quest 2 is still good for PCVR, but it’s true that the display and especially the lenses are starting to look a bit dated!
According to Tyriel Wood - VR Tech the display is much better and crisper in the sweet spot than the Q2
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Any vive reviews or they not sending them out before preorders
They said early Oct, but I'll send em another email..
@VRFlightSimGuy ok, they going for around 1800 australian $$$ preorder now. Whats that pimax light territory?
No pankcake lensens en no DP port = Double no go
I’m just going to stay positive in my comments… I’m saving up for a Pimax Crystal or when MR becomes an affordable reality by a company I trust
A tethered vr headset would be better for flight simulator.
You say that but have you ever tried the Q3 using Virtual Desktop? The VDXR is so much better than std OpenXR that its worth going wireless even if you dont need to be wireless, lol.
@@TheGreatRepeller yeah but a tethered headset you can just plug it in and not worry about any limited battery
@@SpringChickensOnlyMan I had the Bobovr S3 with the 2nd battery. That worked ok but not perfect. Im some racing sims like AMS2 the headset would get hot and not charge. That said the problem exists for the link cable as well. For me it was never a huge issue but you needed to always f with it.
@@SpringChickensOnlyMan if you get a USB cable that can be plugged into external power you don’t have to worry about it with a Quest 3. It will stay charged far longer than anyone is going to use it.
Thanks for video. I was considering going from my meta 2 to the 3S
not sure what you expect for $300 and pico 4 is not in usa.
yeah if you are only sim-ing a quest2 64gb will give just the same expierience as the 3s , So you could probably grab one super cheap while you save up for something better
So is the quest 3 ok to flight sim or not ?
It's ok. But not the best. Full videos on the channel explaining why, check out my latest "Best VR headset" video 👍
well deh lol why would you wana go backwards and loose clarity if someone is already using a q2 or equivalent for pcvr why would you upgrade to something that's the exact same.. unless you wanted that colour pass threw to grab you beers and coffee without taking the headset off lol
I had Q2, dont need another one.
Ditto
Not sure who is audience for this device, as is the VR tech is growing at painfully slow pace, with this device its like going back to past
Agree, this is not the best choice for simulations or PCVR in general.
Man of honor🏅🏆
Considering they (occulus/meta) grew their VR on PCVR, it's such a shame they have all but abandoned the PCVR market. C'mon Meta, a PCVR dedicated Q3 would be a godsend. No standalone, no wireless, just straightup PCVR. Would absolutely kill all the boutique VR brands ripping everyone off !!
Wireless on a clean WiFi 6E network is superior to any wired connection.
@@RolandDobbins Not with a compressed stream it isn't. We need a version of the Q3 with a DP connection. Or at very least a hdmi
@@brin57 - speak for yourself. 200mb/sec of AV1 10-bit at 137% of default resolution looks great on my Quest 3, & I will never use a wired headset again after experiencing both the quality & convenience of the Quest 3 on WiFi 6E.
That's what I thought, since mostly I use it for PCVR,
I already pre-ordered mine but my friend who has a slight sim ill send this to him
100% ballsonaccurate review for PC siming.
Thank you
The quest 3s is a quest 3,,,,, the electronics are identical,,,,,
the only differences are the optics,,, and 128GB flash memory storage amount which saves $200
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3s 128GB $299 ,,,, 3s 256GB $399 ,,,, and the quest 3 pancake optics & 512GB $499
If you are thinking of buying a Quest 3s, don't! If price is your concern, just buy a Quest 3 on the Play Now Pay Later payment plan. I think 3s starts at $20 per month and Q3 is only starting at $30 per month. The $30 price is very budget friendly, and without the compromise on the display or lenses.
This headset will probably be one of the biggest selling stocking fillers this xmas.
Your vidéo is with the quest 3 not 3s
What a fuss about the lenses, if they use pancake lenses for the quest 3S, nobody will buy a quest 3 anymore.
They wouldn't be able to afford it, not even Meta.
$300 with Q3 specs? I’ll buy what I want sir 😂 but I get it, I’m not crazy about the fact that the headphone jack is missing and that it’s still fresnel lenses but that is part of what makes it so affordable
Quest 3 all day with smooth MR and wireless at 120hz via virtual desktop :)
Save up for a used one or new one is my opinion, skip 3s
Just save more money and go for the crystal.
In rhe UK 128 GB Quest 3 is £409 brand new which makes that a no brainer over Quest 3S. Why on earth not oay £111 more and get pancake lenses, dual displays and better resolution?
Exactly mate
Excellent flightsim-related review - am saving for Crystal light here:)
Lots of comments from non-simmers and people who didnt actually watch the whole vid, so ignore - cheers as ever Steve
Thanks mate much appreciated!
@@VRFlightSimGuy p.s. getting a Pico4 as a present for a mate of mine, only 349 at the mo -amazing I think!
Meta has been hounding me for my date of birth on my account, and say I will not be able to continue using my Quest 3 unless I give it to them. Is this even legal? How can it be?
I was not happy about that one either. I have been using my High School grauadtion date as my online birthday...easy to rember and if hackers get it, it really wont matter🤣
Why would anyone even think the q3s is even a decent option for hardcore flight simmers? It’s the downgraded q3 that’s already been out for a year. Just click / rage bait thumbnail nonsense.
Look at my comments... Only you have a problem with the fact I am warning my subs. In the meantime, I'd take some time off work dude. :D
You opened the video with where I live!
!00% Agree
OH PLEASE!!
hey thats Detroit neat!
Thanks
This new quest is a crap.
It's cheap as hell for what it is....
Well lets face it the MQ3S is basically aimed at kids, good value but gen N-2 VR
You are someone with the opposite of someone who has less on... quest garbage is destroying the VR gaming world .. crap graphics do to limited memory.. resolution drops off as power gets lower.. detail is garbage ..lacks texture quality.. and already a few good PC VR games are suffering .. ALL THE QUEST IS , IS A GLORIFIED PHONE STUCK IN A CRAPPY UNCONFORTABLE GOGGLES.. SO please stop the BS QUEST ANYTING SUCKS!.. My old pair of HP Reverb G2s kills any of these quest junk side by side comparison... just do some actual research.. They say $299.99 then count all the other addons then it adds up quickly to somewhere over $450.00 to $500.00 .. NO THANK YOU! my friend just bought a set and took them back the next day..
freshnel is fine.. get a PSVR2
Ugh no thanks
Quest is crap. No matter if 2, 3, 3S. All BS…
So that settles it, the « S » does not stand for « simulation » nor for « Steve » 😂
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