Sounds like Soviet bloc-nationalism of client states. Texas only was able to become independent because of US assistance; and they joined the US to keep Mexico from taking it BACK. But they did NOT join the Union by national compact. NONE of the states did; that would destroy their independence. They did it mainly to PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE: i.e. an international alliance. The rest was just OTHER voluntary international agreements.
Annex ALL of Mexico and Central America upto and including Panama and the Canal. Build a Wall on the other side of the Canal, rename all the land NEW TEXAS !
Interesting fact: A piece of California was temporarily independent for a few days from New Spain...under an Argentine flag Argentina sent a two-ship expedition led by Hipólito Bouchard to Monterey (what was once the capital of California) as part of their war for independence by countering the Spanish at their own game. After an attack on a fort failed, they made it on land the next day and the Spanish forces were no match. For five days, an Argentine flag was raised over Monterey
I'd always heard the Texas constitution allows us to secede from the union. So, one day I sat down and read it. Nothing like that in the constitution that I could find.
There was no legal document that allowed the 13 Colonies to secede from Great Britain or allow the captive states of the old Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact to go their separate ways either. If you're waiting on a peace of paper or parchment to tell you you can be free you'll be a slave 'til you're dead.
@@Va1C Interestingly cool enough, I am from a farm. I never said any state could secede from the union, only that others have and I checked. I cannot find in the US Constitution where it says States cannot secede. It's spelled secede, not succeed. And if you're trying to be insulting towards farmers, please don't do it with food in your mouth. I hope your day goes as well as mine, my friend.
Darn Washington stop scamming Washington just to give South Dakota roads! Washington is so mean to Washington. Washington should secede from Washington to stop getting scammed by Washington.
I know the video meant DC, but the fact that Washington has a color, and the lack of clarity of which Washington is what, making this super hilarious to think about.
Honestly, Texan's just like saying we can leave at any time, though we don't actually want too. Though i'm kinda miffed that he never mentioned Texas' semi-independent energy grid, which was created fro the purpose of succession
You see ... the funny thing about those who want to separate themselves from a union, they don't care if it's *legal*, the fact that they want to secede means that they're already up for a fight
Nobody in the secession movement wants to go to war. They want to govern their own communities. If you deny them that right to choose, then they'll fight for it. America was founded on secession.
@@generalsalami8875 No country in the world wants separatists because it will only make them weaker, if a group wants to secede from a country, the government would just call them terroorists and will terminate them in under 24h.
@@strixtech450 texas is the second largest state in the union & they would bring more states with them. This can be done peacefully. I doubt modern americans would be willing to imperialistically conquer their peers. If they try, it would be a very close fight. Remember, the south was winning the civil war dramatically till the end.
@@generalsalami8875 Texas wouldn’t bring other states with them, just the few other separatists who want to leave, who would simply immigrate to Texas. Also, the civil war was 150 years ago when the US WASNT a global superpower
2:15 putting austin by itself is the most accurate thing ive seen in a while Most of Texas: weed is the devils lettuce Austin: smoking in the park next to a cop car and no one asks questions
@RCHobbyGuy92. No, they can split apart into five different states, but no they can’t leave, seeing that they tried that in 1861 and Uncle Sam gave them a right hook
If Minnesota and Wisconsin pay more into the federal government than they recieve, they are getting seriously shafted. They are not doing well economically and need serious infrastructure support.
The other huge issue that recent years have shown is power. Im not sure Texas would be able to isolate and support itself electrically from the rest of the US. Its already struggling with even the imported power that it currently takes (mostly because its DC links are hugely under capacity needed and outdated at best)
Why would they need to? Why can't they have independence & free trade? Why must secession be hostile? Why not simply let them govern themselves? Sanctions are a double edged sword. Texas can still free up their markets o the rest of tge world willing to trade.
@@GhostofGoliad so ? The same goes for you do you think people care about what one person thinks about what Canadians do you think that it matters that you think what Canadians think or cover doesn't matter no it Doenst
@@blizzard1198 the comment I made was actually meant for another guy..I have no issue with Quebec wanting to leave, I hope they do. Self-government is always best..
@@hiitsevan3153 I know right why the hell would they feel bad when we want to cecede to protect the constitution and the constitutional rights because the left wants to get rid of some this time we are fighting for constitution not for slavery that would probably be the left because they are oppressing them and being more racist to them than the right is
The problem with the economy argument is that simply looking at ins and outs isn't sufficient. For starters, Texas receives a TON of federal support through the military-industrial complex.
@Zy 35 If Texas leaves it'll be like what happened with territories joining the union. Texas will establish independence and states will apply to become part of the new country. The governmental system is still here it'll just enforce the constitutional laws. Not circumvent them like the other states have.And with the leftist states taxing their own people into poverty causing many businesses and factories to flee, BLM/antifa destruction of billions of dollars, the states governments deliberately destroying their own economies with the lockdowns, and giving welfare to almost everyone they'll collapse and Texas will absorb them back into the union.
@Zy 35 yeah 20 states wanting to go against the will of 30 states. Texas does not have the standing to tell any other state what to do especially when their own voting practices have major issues. number 2....where would it stop? to recognize texas's authority to preside over other states would also mean ANY state can precise over ANY OTHER STATE. do you want Connecticut to precise over your state? because we have known about massive voter suppression issues in the red states for years! texas shouldn't have filed a lawsuit they should have petitioned their senators to form a bill in congress about standardizing voting regulation so that everyone is acting the same way. ...by the way in congress, we tried doing that a few years ago. the republican congressmen hated the idea. so we diverted back to the states doing their elections their own way.
Looking at this 9 years later as Texas' infrastructure regularly collapses whenever the weather gets too hot or too cold makes me more skeptical of Grey's "an independent Texas would be fine" thesis.
@@LincMinecrafter Arguably true, but I meant more in regard to the fact that "international" trade offers many complications that wouldn't exist intra-nationally. No tariffs, no border crossings, no (additional) inspections, etc. Not to mention the fact that the US would not take kindly to someone bailing on them, ESPECIALLY because they pay more in taxes than they receive. So more than likely there would be trade embargoes. It's like saying a 14 year old would be fine living on their own because labor laws allow them to get a job. So beyond not the point
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 You do understand that there are a lot of trade agreements among the nations of the world with no tariffs, no border control and no inspections.
@@henkkaj73 That's certainly not the norm. Especially with a country that stole land from you. Generally aren't making favorable trade agreements there.
Texas: Respect me, for I was an independent nation before you guys! Anyone else who shares this? Hawaii: *silently raises hand* Texas, ignoring Hawaii: I THOUGHT SO, now stop protesting on repealing the Second Amendment already! “Nobody beats America in the war business” …until the trees start speaking Vietnamese
@@EllinikiDimokratia Russia would just be as devastated with nukes, they aren’t invincible. Heck they still use Cold war era equipment while Americans receive better training and better equipment and better soldiers and more.
Actually the US had not really Won a War since the Spanish American War that's the truth all other is propaganda WWII Was won by Russia. Korean War was a draw, Vietnam US lost, Afghanistan US lost ? EU, US is losing the Ukraine War being destroyed by Russia 🇷🇺
@@jameseaster8659 Did your King Stalin tell you that? Russia was losing WW2 until the allie’s started funding them money and giving them weapons and Russia has lost about 2,500 tanks in ukraine compared to ukraine losses of 300 tanks.
I absolutely love how due to minimalistic animation, this videos don't age AT ALL. Sure, the numbers may be off one way or another, but the entertainment stays the same. Your narration, while sometimes too quick to follow can be slowed down and it's real treat for brain
Brandon Olson Because the Koreans are obsessed with Starcraft. All the best players are currently Korean and Code S (the premier league of Starcraft) is also in Korea.
PissedOffWhiteMF Ahh, makes sense now. Thank you for the well written explanation. I always knew that SK took starcraft seriously but I just didn't connect the dots. You know my brother told me once that they even teach startcraft stuff in college courses?? Like how to properly "Micro-manage" and whatnot?? Crazy...
"Can the American colony secede from the Crown" "No, America cannot become its own country because that would be illegal. There is no statute passed by Parliament that would allow America to secede"
They can secede, just like I can jump into a pit of lava. Leaving the Union on Texas's terms would almost certainly mean war. It was war the fledgling America faced against Britain in 1776. It was war for the CSA, which included Texas in 1861 when they attempted to leave the USA. The power dynamic and political will in this situation is firmly against Texas. The United States is abundantly clear about it; once you join America, you don't leave.
Don't under-estimate the black market. Mexico & Russia probably uner-report their GDP, just like Greeks because their citizens don't want to pay taxes on their black-market profit.
I'd always heard that the Texas Constitution had something that allowed them to leave the union, and I filed it in the same brain compartment as the laws that banned abortion that spring-trap into being as soon as the Supreme Court overturns a decision. Whether it belonged in that compartment or not, I had no idea.
The economic argument falls apart when you consider the number of companies that would pack up and leave for the United States. And that's not even including all the things run by the federal government that would shut down, like NASA. So much of the economy south of Houston is tied up in NASA and NASA contractors that the whole area would plummet into a Depression. The economic issue is *so much more complicated* than just the amount of tax money flowing to and from the state.
Those issues are all solvable in the theoretical case where the USA is willing to let Texas leave. Although, I admit, a federal government willing to just let Texas go would also probably have a hard time talking itself into the kind of economic interventionism such measures would involve.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 Not necessarily. The NASA issue would be unsolvable. They would straight up not operate their space center in a foreign country. Collaboration and sending astronauts up is not the same thing. Texas would also be excluded from the USMCA and any other trade deals the US negotiated. They'd have to completely renegotiate with trade partners which would be a no-go for a lot of companies operating there.
I'm from Texas, and attended a constitutional law class in a Texas university, we covered all this as you reported. However, I believe 90% of Texans believe it can split into 5 states and secede.
Please do Texas! Those pipelines to other states? Goodbye. That dole of money from the Feds? Goodbye. Hurricane and tornado support? Goodbye. Immigration at the border? Goodbye. Free travel to the other states? Apply for a visa. The next pandemic shots? 300% tax. But you will have your guns just as long as you don't try to import or export them.
@@b3at2 right now texas is losing millions by staying in America, if texas seceded then they would increase there economy ten fold while further crippling the US economy
I grew up in Texas in the 80s, and they were still teaching in public schools that Texas was permitted to secede from the Union legally. When I asked why we would do that they looked at me like I was touched.
With sleepy Joe in office, that is a decent reason to secede from the union. It forces them to reassess their situation. But I do have doubts about that happening. He's got4 years, we don't have to give him more. Plus, if there were a revolt, he would be forced into retirement.
Any region can become independant from its current rulers. Right to rule comes from the people, not the institutions of power. If the people refuse that institution, it has no right to rule them.
@@fyiispy8014 You don't need permission for a revolution or seccession. The entire point is not having permission or following laws... Did we ask daddy England for independence?
fun fact oil consumption is down ,more oils is being taken from the earth then any time in the past ,Europe is demanding electric vehicles ,North American auto manufactures are jumping on the electric vehicle band wagon ,fossil fuel is a dyeing commodity
@@franzspiess1844 Fun fact. Oil does quite a bit more than making fuel for power and cars. Like the smart phone you're probably using now to cry about oil.
at present with the oil production down the world id producing 95 millions barrels of oil per day and using 92 million barrels per day so at present the world is producing 3 million barrels per day more then being used
Look at the original treatise texas could leave if the majority wished to as it was never ORIGINALLY supposed to become a state just and allied territory recognised as an independent power
That would be the flag of the Republic of Korea with a Zerg emblem plopped ontop of the yin-yang symbol. Zerg is a race in Starcraft, a game that is basically the national sport of Korea.
I like how in the hypothetical "5 Texases" scenario you counted Austin as separate from the other Texases. Austin always was the odd one out that other Texans look at sideways so +1 for acknowledging that nugget of Texan culture.
I notice this video is 10 years old. Support for secession within Texas has grown quite a bit since then, we are in a far different political climate now. The country is far more politically divided, to make an understatement.
@@fede-HaitiaNAmericAnrimeircs91 It's an empty threat. Texas can't legally secede. To do so would be considered treason and their new government would swiftly be put down, unless the U.S. overrules Texas v White and lets them which is highly unlikely
@@ZeroOne-mp1qe there's actually a case going on currently with Texit and Facebook that has directly opened an argument on rather or not Texas can leave. Looks like we will hopefully have a mock vote this upcoming election. This video was fun but it is defiantly dated and a lot has changed.
True, but CGP Grey basically covers that point since Texas doesn't have the military power to win a revolutionary exit by force. They don't have a legal avenue, and they don't have any realistic hope of succeeding with an illegal tactic either.
@@FoenixRight but at the same time. At what length is the US willing to go to to stop it. If they invade texas, how many US soldiers will be willing fire on "Their own citizens". Also consider that even if they do win, it will then become a military occupation of Texas. People won't just turn over and say "fine, I guess we'll go back to being American". Armed insurgency and uprisings will start up all over the state, causing millions/billions of dollars to maintain troops and fix sabotaged infrastructure. In the end, it wouldn't be worth it for the US to use military force.
@@maltese_tiger_272 it would be a military occupation for the minority that support secession. From the perspective of most Texans, the secession would have already been an occupation or at least subversion of the will of the people.
"Hey do you no longer want to abide by the laws of the united states?" "I mean I do but that's against the laws of the united states, which I have to abide by"
the thing this video fails to consider is that while Texas does have a large economy, they do a lot of trade with the rest of the US. presumably, if Texas tried seceding, other states wouldn't do business with them anymore
Texas is a large producer of oil, they will be able to trade that with other country's that aren't alleys to USA, Texas economy would hurt for a moment but be back up and better then it was before
Doubtful it would damage trade at all because the other states don't care and they probably be getting cheaper and better goods and services from an independent Texas. Worst thing that would happen it would be to encourage all the other states to secede as well. And while it's not in the Texas Constitution it is an option for any state to leave the union
It also depends on whether the secessions cascade. Remember in the beginning of the Confederacy was made up of South Carolina. And that's it. With them suddenly going through with articles of secession the other states around them started to do so. And if the reasons Texas is trying to leave the Union are shared by other states you could have a wave of states one after the other trying to leave. Arizona, New Mexico, and Oklahoma might decide that their interests are better served by joining the Texas Republic than with the USA. (Especially with the way the US is going) and this could lead to the Western Seaboard not wanting to be apart and leaving. And we all know the lower Southern States would want to leave. If bad enough for Texas to actually take a serious stab at leaving, other states wouldn't be worried about trading with them. Many would probably be thinking of how they can leave to.
As a texan, I have had to memorize the Texas constitution, ( including the constitution before its 6 other copies ) and in none of them could I find that Texas could secede from the union, alas, I still believe we could, though most states would probably stop trading with us, most likely causing the population to decrease because of lack of supplies.
Why do you still believe you could it is not in your constitution? What legal basis would you have? Some sort of treatise or contract? Edit: Also it is just ‘I had’. Have is just the present or future tense. Had is the past. It doesn’t matter that much, but just saying.
***** There is no point in staying seeing as you are a net-contributor while your people lose control over your own lifes. You can stay in trading agreements such as the EEC without being a part of the EU. What is the benefit?
+The Captain I think the only benefit is keeping relations high with other European countries. If they left the EU not only would countries like Germany and France be angry at a huge net contributor leaving and forcing them to continue the giving out of monies. Also countries that need the help of the UK might sink into even more debt and ruin those countries as well. UK staying in the EU isn't needed for the UK, but rather stability in europe
Of course they can secede, the whole point of secession is that you don't recognise the authority of the constituion or the federal government, so doesn't matter what the supreme court says
relevant again
Strat:
1.Sell Texas to a foreign power
2.Wait for the entire state to revolt
3. re-annex Texas
4. profit???
Sounds like Soviet bloc-nationalism of client states.
Texas only was able to become independent because of US assistance; and they joined the US to keep Mexico from taking it BACK.
But they did NOT join the Union by national compact.
NONE of the states did; that would destroy their independence. They did it mainly to PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE: i.e. an international alliance.
The rest was just OTHER voluntary international agreements.
ENGIENEER IS FROM TEXAS
This is a civ6 strategy lol
@@SovereignStatesman they joined because every citizen was an American. Also they were all on American land. Meaning they were owned american
Annex ALL of Mexico and Central America upto and including Panama and the Canal. Build a Wall on the other side of the Canal, rename all the land NEW TEXAS !
Interesting fact: A piece of California was temporarily independent for a few days from New Spain...under an Argentine flag
Argentina sent a two-ship expedition led by Hipólito Bouchard to Monterey (what was once the capital of California) as part of their war for independence by countering the Spanish at their own game. After an attack on a fort failed, they made it on land the next day and the Spanish forces were no match. For five days, an Argentine flag was raised over Monterey
I need to get History Matters on this one ASAP.
I learned this last week when I was on Santa Barbara pier and they had out all the flags of countries which have laid claim to parts of California.
Yes and there was also the Bear flag revolt.
Wait fr???
I swear I have ran into you on like 4 different channels now.
I think the declaration of Independence covers this quite clearly...
Any state can leave the union. With enough force and violence
why they want to take our guns
Make the southwest Mexico 🇲🇽 again!!!
Basically how the colonies of America seperated from Britian. If it works, don't fix it, right?
10th amendment allows any state to secede
Nope, the declaration of independence says extreme tyranny that deprives people of rights justify such revolution.
I'd always heard the Texas constitution allows us to secede from the union. So, one day I sat down and read it. Nothing like that in the constitution that I could find.
There was no legal document that allowed the 13 Colonies to secede from Great Britain or allow the captive states of the old Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact to go their separate ways either. If you're waiting on a peace of paper or parchment to tell you you can be free you'll be a slave 'til you're dead.
The us constitution states that no state can succeed from the union and it overrides all state constitutions so go back to your farm jeff
@@Va1C Please enlighten us as to where in the US Constitution no state is allowed to "succeed" from the Union. We're looking forward to your answer.
@@Va1C Interestingly cool enough, I am from a farm. I never said any state could secede from the union, only that others have and I checked. I cannot find in the US Constitution where it says States cannot secede.
It's spelled secede, not succeed. And if you're trying to be insulting towards farmers, please don't do it with food in your mouth. I hope your day goes as well as mine, my friend.
@@michaeltubbs4606 So you are in favor of a illegal rebellion?
2:46 there is a creeper on the left side of the screen and idk why but I laughed so hard
Same
We all know creepers fought in wars throughout history
AWWWW MAN
he hides creepers in every video :)
you are supposed to find them.
Lol 😂
As an Austinite, I genuinely laughed out loud when one of the five separate states of Texas was “Austin.”
“How many times do we have to teach you this LESSON old man?”
1:21 I love how Washington pays more to Washington than Washington does to them
Darn Washington stop scamming Washington just to give South Dakota roads!
Washington is so mean to Washington. Washington should secede from Washington to stop getting scammed by Washington.
infinite money glitch
I do not.
Washington pays more to Washington than Washington pays to Washington
I know the video meant DC, but the fact that Washington has a color, and the lack of clarity of which Washington is what, making this super hilarious to think about.
So no Texit on the cards then?
DEEZ IMAGRUNTS DAT AR CUMIN INTO OUR TEXAS AND TAKING ALL OR JOBS AN CLAIMIN ALL OR BENIFITS!
Honestly, Texan's just like saying we can leave at any time, though we don't actually want too. Though i'm kinda miffed that he never mentioned Texas' semi-independent energy grid, which was created fro the purpose of succession
(That was a parody of the things people say in my country. God, I hate the UK sometimes. GORD SEEV DA CREEN UN ALL DAT)
still could happen
:/
Hawaii was a Independent Nation before America annexed it and is still occupying the Hawaiian Peoples land
What’s up checkmark?
Very true 😭
You could be making more Minecraft tutorials.
Commented 4 days ago.
*Last video 4 years ago.*
You see ... the funny thing about those who want to separate themselves from a union, they don't care if it's *legal*, the fact that they want to secede means that they're already up for a fight
Only Larpers on the internet would want to until they realise they wouldn't be up against normal soldiers but drones
Nobody in the secession movement wants to go to war. They want to govern their own communities. If you deny them that right to choose, then they'll fight for it. America was founded on secession.
@@generalsalami8875 No country in the world wants separatists because it will only make them weaker, if a group wants to secede from a country, the government would just call them terroorists and will terminate them in under 24h.
@@strixtech450 texas is the second largest state in the union & they would bring more states with them. This can be done peacefully. I doubt modern americans would be willing to imperialistically conquer their peers. If they try, it would be a very close fight. Remember, the south was winning the civil war dramatically till the end.
@@generalsalami8875 Texas wouldn’t bring other states with them, just the few other separatists who want to leave, who would simply immigrate to Texas. Also, the civil war was 150 years ago when the US WASNT a global superpower
2:15 putting austin by itself is the most accurate thing ive seen in a while
Most of Texas: weed is the devils lettuce
Austin: smoking in the park next to a cop car and no one asks questions
*_"Weed is the Devil's lettuce"_*
That's an amazing line, regardless of what your views on it are
I hope that conservatives views on marijuana changes soon!! & this is coming from a Texas Conservative from San Antonio
Same in Dallas
@@texmontana420 eey, fellow San Antonian
?? Wassup mayne
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.....
Hotel Texas, I love that song!
@RCHobbyGuy92. No, they can split apart into five different states, but no they can’t leave, seeing that they tried that in 1861 and Uncle Sam gave them a right hook
@RCHobbyGuy92 alright, *try again*
I see a Second Civil War 👀
@RCHobbyGuy92 who's we? Do a majority of texans sincerely want to secede from the union? I've got a feeling your in the minority
A state seceding from the US would be an incredible turn of history to wittness.
Then learn about the civil war
I am still getting this video re-recommended every year.. it haunts me
2:46 Historically creepers did exist
aww man
@Mr. TrainHead no u
@Mr. Trainhead Do you Really believe herobrine is true
2:46 damn the bravest solider in that portrait is that creeper on the left
Of course! We Texans are always sure to remember the bravery displayed at ‘the Battle of San Hiss-cinto’!
That’s my great great uncle
@@ohio9499 no way!
He’s my grandpa too
Lmao
If Minnesota and Wisconsin pay more into the federal government than they recieve, they are getting seriously shafted. They are not doing well economically and need serious infrastructure support.
Minnesota needs to drastically reduce government spending and taxes. That's PART of why I left.
The other huge issue that recent years have shown is power. Im not sure Texas would be able to isolate and support itself electrically from the rest of the US. Its already struggling with even the imported power that it currently takes (mostly because its DC links are hugely under capacity needed and outdated at best)
I heard somewhere that Texas has a power system completely disconnected from the rest of the US
@@Omegaset remember a year or 2 when it was freezing in Texas and the power wasn’t able to sustain itself
Why would they need to? Why can't they have independence & free trade? Why must secession be hostile? Why not simply let them govern themselves?
Sanctions are a double edged sword. Texas can still free up their markets o the rest of tge world willing to trade.
As a Canadian, I'd love a video covering Quebec seperatists.
@@GhostofGoliad and then you wonder why people think Texans are mean
@@GhostofGoliad so ? The same goes for you do you think people care about what one person thinks about what Canadians do you think that it matters that you think what Canadians think or cover doesn't matter no it Doenst
@@blizzard1198 the comment I made was actually meant for another guy..I have no issue with Quebec wanting to leave, I hope they do. Self-government is always best..
@@GhostofGoliad 🤡
West Canada would LOVE it if Quebec left
This video is now suddenly relevant in 2020.
I feel bad for all my fellow black people who will be stuck there
@@exiledhebrew1994 why?
I'll move to Texas when they secede
@@hiitsevan3153 what you mean why? Because with no constitution, they will be made slaves again
@@hiitsevan3153 I know right why the hell would they feel bad when we want to cecede to protect the constitution and the constitutional rights because the left wants to get rid of some this time we are fighting for constitution not for slavery that would probably be the left because they are oppressing them and being more racist to them than the right is
You know the song guys. 🎶Away down south in the land of traitors🎶
Rattlesnakes and alligators
The problem with the economy argument is that simply looking at ins and outs isn't sufficient. For starters, Texas receives a TON of federal support through the military-industrial complex.
Maybe time to revisit this video...
Supreme Court: Rejects Texas lawsuit
Texas: I'm leaving
@Zy 35 If Texas leaves it'll be like what happened with territories joining the union. Texas will establish independence and states will apply to become part of the new country. The governmental system is still here it'll just enforce the constitutional laws. Not circumvent them like the other states have.And with the leftist states taxing their own people into poverty causing many businesses and factories to flee, BLM/antifa destruction of billions of dollars, the states governments deliberately destroying their own economies with the lockdowns, and giving welfare to almost everyone they'll collapse and Texas will absorb them back into the union.
@@jesehufman but would all those lefties be welcomed in new confederacy? i think not xD
@Zy 35 yeah 20 states wanting to go against the will of 30 states. Texas does not have the standing to tell any other state what to do especially when their own voting practices have major issues. number 2....where would it stop? to recognize texas's authority to preside over other states would also mean ANY state can precise over ANY OTHER STATE. do you want Connecticut to precise over your state? because we have known about massive voter suppression issues in the red states for years! texas shouldn't have filed a lawsuit they should have petitioned their senators to form a bill in congress about standardizing voting regulation so that everyone is acting the same way.
...by the way in congress, we tried doing that a few years ago. the republican congressmen hated the idea. so we diverted back to the states doing their elections their own way.
it's sad that people are actually having these talks lmao
Lets do it
1:04 I'm so happy he put the correct flag ratios.
Looking at this 9 years later as Texas' infrastructure regularly collapses whenever the weather gets too hot or too cold makes me more skeptical of Grey's "an independent Texas would be fine" thesis.
He really took the most basic and poorly researched point of view. Hes normally way better than that
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 well this video was also 9 years ago when Texas wasn’t as bad
@@LincMinecrafter Arguably true, but I meant more in regard to the fact that "international" trade offers many complications that wouldn't exist intra-nationally. No tariffs, no border crossings, no (additional) inspections, etc. Not to mention the fact that the US would not take kindly to someone bailing on them, ESPECIALLY because they pay more in taxes than they receive. So more than likely there would be trade embargoes.
It's like saying a 14 year old would be fine living on their own because labor laws allow them to get a job. So beyond not the point
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 You do understand that there are a lot of trade agreements among the nations of the world with no tariffs, no border control and no inspections.
@@henkkaj73 That's certainly not the norm. Especially with a country that stole land from you. Generally aren't making favorable trade agreements there.
Splitting Texas into 5 states. North, South, East, West Texas...and Austin. lol. That made me smile.
vicsrealms yes
It was odd how the initials for Austin were AX, instead of, IDK AU?
Agreed as a Texan who spends most of their time in Austin.
I would live in the North State lol
CraftQueenJr haha
Hawaii Being Independent for 80 Years: *angry pineapple noises*
Feelin' prickly?
@@tabcat TROLLGE DETECTED,BATTLE MODE INITIATED.
@@Bombsbombsbombs Are you feeling prikl ?ghnnn
Native Hawaiian should secede from the USA
@@bigmoniesponge Yup.
Texas: Respect me, for I was an independent nation before you guys! Anyone else who shares this?
Hawaii: *silently raises hand*
Texas, ignoring Hawaii: I THOUGHT SO, now stop protesting on repealing the Second Amendment already!
“Nobody beats America in the war business” …until the trees start speaking Vietnamese
Or the bay starts speaking cuban-spanish. Or the nuclear silos start speaking russian.
@@EllinikiDimokratia Russia would just be as devastated with nukes, they aren’t invincible. Heck they still use Cold war era equipment while Americans receive better training and better equipment and better soldiers and more.
@@aimxdy8680 But still a couple of Russian nukes can wipe out Americas
Actually the US had not really Won a War since the Spanish American War that's the truth all other is propaganda WWII Was won by Russia. Korean War was a draw, Vietnam US lost, Afghanistan US lost ? EU, US is losing the Ukraine War being destroyed by Russia 🇷🇺
@@jameseaster8659 Did your King Stalin tell you that? Russia was losing WW2 until the allie’s started funding them money and giving them weapons and Russia has lost about 2,500 tanks in ukraine compared to ukraine losses of 300 tanks.
I’m surprised there wasn’t an amendment added to the constitution about secession following the civil war
I absolutely love how due to minimalistic animation, this videos don't age AT ALL. Sure, the numbers may be off one way or another, but the entertainment stays the same. Your narration, while sometimes too quick to follow can be slowed down and it's real treat for brain
Artur's avatar is fine
Clear skill issue
Did CGP Grey add the zerg symbol to the korean flag at 1:10? that sneak bastard!
I Didn't See That!!!! Great Catch!
Is it supposed to represent a Unified Korea? East Korea? West Korea? Korea? Chosen?
***** NICE!!! I don't get it though...?? I know all about starcraft and zerg but why put that in?
Brandon Olson Because the Koreans are obsessed with Starcraft. All the best players are currently Korean and Code S (the premier league of Starcraft) is also in Korea.
PissedOffWhiteMF Ahh, makes sense now. Thank you for the well written explanation. I always knew that SK took starcraft seriously but I just didn't connect the dots. You know my brother told me once that they even teach startcraft stuff in college courses?? Like how to properly "Micro-manage" and whatnot?? Crazy...
The issue of if a state could secede was dealt with in the 1860s. If a state could just randomly decide to leave then there would be no USA.
Thank you for saying this, it's literally the entire point of the Declaration of Independence
That's the point, countries, especially empires, dont last forever
"Can the American colony secede from the Crown"
"No, America cannot become its own country because that would be illegal. There is no statute passed by Parliament that would allow America to secede"
That was hundreds of years ago, with two entities oceans apart
And then a winter storm hits Texas (or flood, or drought, or immigrants) and they’ll need federal help.
They can secede, just like I can jump into a pit of lava.
Leaving the Union on Texas's terms would almost certainly mean war. It was war the fledgling America faced against Britain in 1776. It was war for the CSA, which included Texas in 1861 when they attempted to leave the USA.
The power dynamic and political will in this situation is firmly against Texas. The United States is abundantly clear about it; once you join America, you don't leave.
@Sam Vimes I can still jump into lava. yes.
@@CCJJ160Channels Texas takes federal "help" during natural disasters but doesn't need it.
Wait, everyone's talking about the secession, but I mean
Five states?
WHAT!?
north, south, east, west and central texas?
or: T, E, X, A and S?
Forget Calexit, i want the states of C, A, L, F, O, R, N, I, A, and Los Angeles
@@jjnn2 you forgot "I" before F
I did, didn't I?
@@jjnn2 yup
TEXIT, BRIEFLY
Yeet
Jeffy Samuel yes
yes.
Redcoat Texit, Tiefly.
Why did I get this 10 years later
Let’s just build a wall around it.
Relevant again, 8 years later. Thanks 2020!
@Michael Ardenté lmao just wait for the economic backlash that's going to happen this summer when the housing market collapses like it did in 2008.
@@rwberger6 still waiting?
Dont know about Texas, but I cant wait for to have our own private Idaho.
I'm looking
That would be badass guess here in Nevada we will bail next week
you cant have a country inside a country
Like the song?
@@frankt.malleyjr.2076 private idaho
The creeper at 2:46 made me double-take XD
Love how you gave South Korea the zerg logo
Wienie hut jrs
Angel Smith Texas have a larger economy than Russia.
@@shreyvaghela3963 right
than
has
Don't under-estimate the black market.
Mexico & Russia probably uner-report their GDP, just like Greeks because their citizens don't want to pay taxes on their black-market profit.
That's what happens when you don't have royal families running your country.
"deivide into NX, SX, WX, EX.... and Austin" as Austinite, I love you.
*divide
@@IGPriX you can your own comments you know
@@macaroon_nuggets8008 It was 3 years ago, you prick
Sameee
fuck Austin
1:22 my poor boy Rhode island getting left out
I'd always heard that the Texas Constitution had something that allowed them to leave the union, and I filed it in the same brain compartment as the laws that banned abortion that spring-trap into being as soon as the Supreme Court overturns a decision. Whether it belonged in that compartment or not, I had no idea.
Any one here after Texas Gop suggested secession.
lets do it!
What is a gop
It would be great leverage against a Marxist administration. This video just says NO but doesn't make a legal case at all.
@@johnsharpe6411 What do you mean
@@samd2612 GOP means the republican party.
The economic argument falls apart when you consider the number of companies that would pack up and leave for the United States. And that's not even including all the things run by the federal government that would shut down, like NASA. So much of the economy south of Houston is tied up in NASA and NASA contractors that the whole area would plummet into a Depression. The economic issue is *so much more complicated* than just the amount of tax money flowing to and from the state.
Those issues are all solvable in the theoretical case where the USA is willing to let Texas leave. Although, I admit, a federal government willing to just let Texas go would also probably have a hard time talking itself into the kind of economic interventionism such measures would involve.
You may be right but including all that would make it hard to leave it as a short interesting video^^
I doubt he was making that argument tbh. This was a very theoretical argument and I doubt grey would be willing to argue this
Not to mention that after Perry and Abbott as governors we now take more money than we send to the federal government.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 Not necessarily. The NASA issue would be unsolvable. They would straight up not operate their space center in a foreign country. Collaboration and sending astronauts up is not the same thing. Texas would also be excluded from the USMCA and any other trade deals the US negotiated. They'd have to completely renegotiate with trade partners which would be a no-go for a lot of companies operating there.
this video was 22 days before i was born
Secession is always possible if you can beat the government in the war that follows
I'm from Texas, and attended a constitutional law class in a Texas university, we covered all this as you reported. However, I believe 90% of Texans believe it can split into 5 states and secede.
Please do Texas! Those pipelines to other states? Goodbye. That dole of money from the Feds? Goodbye. Hurricane and tornado support? Goodbye. Immigration at the border? Goodbye. Free travel to the other states? Apply for a visa. The next pandemic shots? 300% tax. But you will have your guns just as long as you don't try to import or export them.
Why would any one not want to be part of the UNITED STATES?
@@b3at2 there is no economic benefit to staying
@@aceroy9195 a texit? lmaoo
@@b3at2 right now texas is losing millions by staying in America, if texas seceded then they would increase there economy ten fold while further crippling the US economy
I grew up in Texas in the 80s, and they were still teaching in public schools that Texas was permitted to secede from the Union legally. When I asked why we would do that they looked at me like I was touched.
Now you know why.
i agree with their assessment
With sleepy Joe in office, that is a decent reason to secede from the union. It forces them to reassess their situation. But I do have doubts about that happening. He's got4 years, we don't have to give him more. Plus, if there were a revolt, he would be forced into retirement.
@@justincooper5189 yeah and starve to death without fed money
It's stated in their treaty upon joining the union that they have the right to leave. Their choice
Anythings possible if you shoot hard enough
Any region can become independant from its current rulers. Right to rule comes from the people, not the institutions of power. If the people refuse that institution, it has no right to rule them.
Exactly, But ofc this only has like 6 likes.
Yes but then the US military would invade Texas and restore power
@@jakebrakeat2am489 Because that isn’t how laws work
@@fyiispy8014 You don't need permission for a revolution or seccession. The entire point is not having permission or following laws... Did we ask daddy England for independence?
@@jakebrakeat2am489Because Texas is tested unfairly and unjustified, obviously equitable to England during the revolutionary war
Fun fact: texas has highest oil reserves in usa
fun fact oil consumption is down ,more oils is being taken from the earth then any time in the past ,Europe is demanding electric vehicles ,North American auto manufactures are jumping on the electric vehicle band wagon ,fossil fuel is a dyeing commodity
@@franzspiess1844 Fun fact. Oil does quite a bit more than making fuel for power and cars. Like the smart phone you're probably using now to cry about oil.
@@rebelcowboy9656 file is still40%
more than all arab countries as well!!!!
at present with the oil production down the world id producing 95 millions barrels of oil per day and using 92 million barrels per day so at present the world is producing 3 million barrels per day more then being used
The Zerg emblem on South Korea's flag. Every time, Grey. I see you.
Where?
on 1.10, I thunk I was the only one to have seen it but in real we are 17
Look at the original treatise texas could leave if the majority wished to as it was never ORIGINALLY supposed to become a state just and allied territory recognised as an independent power
bro this music from Control City Freak
2:46 was that a creeper on the left?
aww man
bruh this was made 1 year ago do you expect him to answer
pro gamer. •80 years ago So we back in the mine
got our pickaxe swinging from side to side.
Ur right wtf
This aged well
Lets gooooo texas!!!!
Indeed
I'm saving to move!
@@natestathes Did you make it to Texas yet?
@@freefromthemind3087 no unfortunately. I've got a little ways to go still. But thank you for asking!
@1:10 What's the flag in the lower right corner?
That would be the flag of the Republic of Korea with a Zerg emblem plopped ontop of the yin-yang symbol. Zerg is a race in Starcraft, a game that is basically the national sport of Korea.
1:10 The flag at the bottom right there, for those of you who are not fans of geography, is the Republic of Zerus
Creeper at 2:46 bottom left lol
Nice spotting
I thought I was the only one who saw it XD
Cedric Valcke
lmao ahaa
lol wtf
IKR?
I like how in the hypothetical "5 Texases" scenario you counted Austin as separate from the other Texases. Austin always was the odd one out that other Texans look at sideways so +1 for acknowledging that nugget of Texan culture.
Austin is the black sheep of Texas.
My son and his family live in Austin, and I can guarantee that it is a liberal cesspool.
Nugget? I'd say turd.
I notice this video is 10 years old. Support for secession within Texas has grown quite a bit since then, we are in a far different political climate now. The country is far more politically divided, to make an understatement.
yes and texas again announced in february that it would secede from the united states again
@@fede-HaitiaNAmericAnrimeircs91 It's an empty threat. Texas can't legally secede. To do so would be considered treason and their new government would swiftly be put down, unless the U.S. overrules Texas v White and lets them which is highly unlikely
@@fede-HaitiaNAmericAnrimeircs91 press x to doubt
@@ZeroOne-mp1qe there's actually a case going on currently with Texit and Facebook that has directly opened an argument on rather or not Texas can leave. Looks like we will hopefully have a mock vote this upcoming election. This video was fun but it is defiantly dated and a lot has changed.
No it hasn't
why is this in my recommended 7 years later
"There is no legal process for the state to exit the union"
Pretty sure the American Revolution wasn't exactly legal either...
Excellent point.
Great point.
True, but CGP Grey basically covers that point since Texas doesn't have the military power to win a revolutionary exit by force. They don't have a legal avenue, and they don't have any realistic hope of succeeding with an illegal tactic either.
@@FoenixRight but at the same time. At what length is the US willing to go to to stop it. If they invade texas, how many US soldiers will be willing fire on "Their own citizens". Also consider that even if they do win, it will then become a military occupation of Texas. People won't just turn over and say "fine, I guess we'll go back to being American". Armed insurgency and uprisings will start up all over the state, causing millions/billions of dollars to maintain troops and fix sabotaged infrastructure. In the end, it wouldn't be worth it for the US to use military force.
@@maltese_tiger_272 it would be a military occupation for the minority that support secession. From the perspective of most Texans, the secession would have already been an occupation or at least subversion of the will of the people.
"Hey do you no longer want to abide by the laws of the united states?" "I mean I do but that's against the laws of the united states, which I have to abide by"
This is addressed in the video btw
Why? The enemy doesn’t. Oops, sorry, I mean the left doesn’t.
Commies don't...
2:46 It seems that there was a photobomber creeper.
Does this include after 9 years?
Why am I watching this when I live in Australia?
Same
Grey is love Grey is life
+Time To Get Cancer Im a kangaroo, what feelings do you have towards me? :]
+BloodyRamen you're my car
I haven't seen one of those in a while
9 years later… I noticed top sneaky zergy Korean flag at 1:09 :D
Woah
Yes same
Yeah, what the Hell is up with that?
Wonder why the algorithm is bringing this one back
Welp this became very relevant very fast
the thing this video fails to consider is that while Texas does have a large economy, they do a lot of trade with the rest of the US. presumably, if Texas tried seceding, other states wouldn't do business with them anymore
True, it'd be harmful for both sides economically, but the USA would recover better than Texas would.
Texas is a large producer of oil, they will be able to trade that with other country's that aren't alleys to USA, Texas economy would hurt for a moment but be back up and better then it was before
Doubtful it would damage trade at all because the other states don't care and they probably be getting cheaper and better goods and services from an independent Texas. Worst thing that would happen it would be to encourage all the other states to secede as well. And while it's not in the Texas Constitution it is an option for any state to leave the union
@@kmrapanmedia3176 We had some states try that once.
Didn't go well for them.
It also depends on whether the secessions cascade. Remember in the beginning of the Confederacy was made up of South Carolina. And that's it. With them suddenly going through with articles of secession the other states around them started to do so. And if the reasons Texas is trying to leave the Union are shared by other states you could have a wave of states one after the other trying to leave.
Arizona, New Mexico, and Oklahoma might decide that their interests are better served by joining the Texas Republic than with the USA. (Especially with the way the US is going) and this could lead to the Western Seaboard not wanting to be apart and leaving. And we all know the lower Southern States would want to leave.
If bad enough for Texas to actually take a serious stab at leaving, other states wouldn't be worried about trading with them. Many would probably be thinking of how they can leave to.
"No one beats the Americans in the war business"
What about Vietnam?
Well we kinda just left because we could see it was worthless, which I guess you canm call a loss.
We won, left, and the South lost then.
But whoever lost, the North definitely won, so I would call it a loss.
But there is no ‘what about’ about it.
And Canada, sort of.
Well, we were winning, but we left because hippies at home didn't like the war. If we wanted to, we could've kept going and won
I mean the Vietnamese lost like 1.1m men compared to the us with like 66k
Gosh it’s all I heard every week from Texans when I lived there. Couldn’t get out fast enough
I actually learned aboat this in history today!
Can Texas secede from the Union?
Answer: If they have a strong enough military to hold off the US military, yes.
They don't
@@Abcelo665 Its not the Texas military you have to worry about, its the gun behind every tree you need to be concerned with.
@@TXLorenzo lol ok 👌
@@Abcelo665 Do you have a clue on how many guns there are in Texas?
@@TXLorenzo Have you seen the U.S. Military?
To answer the question simply: Texas can’t secede from the Union, but it can secede from itself
Any state who elects a Ted Cruz has demonstrated it has poor judgement, and therefore likely believes it can do anything.
Did anyone else notice the creeper in the shot for 2:46?
If it does im moving to Texas Asap
Welcome to 2021 - Secession talk is now very real.
Not really. Only an idiot fringe wants secession.
Bill 1359 had been introduced on 01/26/2021
@@kmaher1424 you do know that a majority or Texans are willing to leave the US right?
@@sandman4111
No, I do not know that at all.
@@sandman4111 I'm Ohio! I'm for Texas seccesion.
Why is Korean flag 🇰🇷 Zerg main?
1:10
Yeah isn't the best zerg serral? He's finish, not Korean lol
Well there is dark
They love Starcraft.
Why is there a creeper at 2:47
On the lower left side of the screen
As a texan, I have had to memorize the Texas constitution, ( including the constitution before its 6 other copies ) and in none of them could I find that Texas could secede from the union, alas, I still believe we could, though most states would probably stop trading with us, most likely causing the population to decrease because of lack of supplies.
Why do you still believe you could it is not in your constitution? What legal basis would you have? Some sort of treatise or contract?
Edit: Also it is just ‘I had’. Have is just the present or future tense. Had is the past. It doesn’t matter that much, but just saying.
Texas to USA sounds like United Kingdom to EU.
+Michael Hales And britain will! Go Britain!
***** There is no point in staying seeing as you are a net-contributor while your people lose control over your own lifes. You can stay in trading agreements such as the EEC without being a part of the EU. What is the benefit?
+The Captain I think the only benefit is keeping relations high with other European countries. If they left the EU not only would countries like Germany and France be angry at a huge net contributor leaving and forcing them to continue the giving out of monies. Also countries that need the help of the UK might sink into even more debt and ruin those countries as well. UK staying in the EU isn't needed for the UK, but rather stability in europe
+RobiePAX yes.
+Joseph Fox or Scotland to the UK
TEXIT!!!!!
Jk, lets not. Its is just a catchy word.
no no, Texit indeed
You mean *TEXT*
doit
Bro this video is 10 years old
texas was governed by 6 nations throughout its history and is the reason why we have the amusement parks known as six flags.
1:09 What's wrong with the South Korean flag?
+SUM1 It was a Starcraft reference, Koreans are obsessed with the game
José Luis Castillo Thanks
+SUM1
O wow, I didn't spot that.
That's hilarious xD
+Samuel Poe Too many mexicans in a former mexican country? How is that possible?
+SUM1 nothing
We can never let texas secede, because we would lose Chuck Norris. The US can't afford such a devastating loss!!
we would lose Chuck Norris,Dell Cohagner and the texans. And texans are awesome.
GCDarkGGG Thanks! :)
Norris is actually from Oklahoma.
Joesolo13 Doesn't matter. Texas only exists because Chuck Norris allows it.
2:46 America invented the Creeper to transport their gunpowder... interesting piece of history!
The 49 other states: “ah sh*t. Here we go again.”
Of course they can secede, the whole point of secession is that you don't recognise the authority of the constituion or the federal government, so doesn't matter what the supreme court says
Yeah --- SCREW the supreme court.
Exactly. We do not need their permission. The scotus has no standing in the decision
Me - Hey Siri can Texas just decide to leave the United States?
Siri- Please see American Civil War as a reference and precedent.
@@LSwick-ss6nm Siri please see american war of independence as a reference
@@Fernando-iy3fg. What does that have to do with texas?
Wait, that flag. A red star, and a bear. California Republic was communist confirmed.
Uh, no. The star on California's flag was a tribute to Texas. Or wait, are you saying Texas is communist?
@@Lordpeyre No, they have a white start on a blue field. You know what that means, son? DEMOCRACY!
@Alex Mulvihill Actually stars are extraterrestrial. Asia is a spaceship confirmed.
@Alex Mulvihill Indeed you can't.
My god, it was foreshadowing all along!
"AMERICA....Love it, or Leave it!"
Let them go. We saw what happened with their Texas electric grid a few years ago.