While the rs2 can handle the weight you have on it, the height of your camera setup is adding a lot of stress on the motors which is why I’d say you see so much shake in the footage.
@@creativegreatsvisuals Yes, within limits. If adding weight is necessary to balance the camera or to attach accessories, aim to position them near the roll axis of the setup. So, ideally not always atop the camera. Moreover, the "firmer" and more stable your assembly, the better, since slight shifts between components may induce micro jitters as the center/axis of balance for the entire camera setup can shift. This is the reason DJI offers lens support for weightier lenses.
I use a Ready Rig and my footage is perfectly smooth. Part of getting smooth footage is holding the ring lightly, not gripping it super tight. I think with more practice, you could get either to look very smooth. Also, it might help if your payload wasn't so crazy high and long.
Thanks, Sky. I have been using the Ready Rig for years and I have gotten a lot of great footage with it. I totally agree that you can get either system to look smooth, I was just really impressed with how much less work the EasyRig took. Thanks so much for the comment and have a great day!
Hey Sky - Great to read your comment 🙌. Been a Gimbal user for many years - but am new to using a Ready rig - was hoping to pick your brains about how to smooth out that 4th axis? any tips / tricks would be greatly appreciated :-) 👊
I love that function of the STABIL Light. Thanks so much for making such great equipment. I have both a Minimax and a STABIL Light, and I can't imagine going to set without one or the other. Your gear lets those of us behind the camera focus on the art and the story, and Easyrig is an invaluable part of the film community. Keep up the amazing work and have a great day!
I have question for easyrig. Retailer in my country said, "locked in 90 degrees to function as a 'normal' Minimax" is not recommended, but is it okay to use it that way up to 7kg?
Add in the Easyrig EasyTilt and you really have a complete system. I have the Easyrig Minimax and have the Stabil addition on order. Looking forward to play with it. Great video.
Thanks for the comparison :-) I checked out your other videos as well and my question is: Why is the elephant in the room missing? Tilta armor man 3 (what i understand) is exactly to remove this 4th axis problem. Do you have any experience with it?
I have noticed that when they attach a gimbal to a vehicle they have a suspension system made of ringed metal cable as a base. If one had to position a strong bungee between the hook and the camera, would that take some of the spring out of the steps?
A lot of your vibrations actually comes from connection between a Gimbal and the ring! I highly advise putting a little bit of tape across the nipple of connecting part all the way to the bottom of it it will increase the pressure between the locking mechanism and the ring and got rid of a lot of unwanted jitters.
Hi awesome video, I just received my easyrig mini max with stabil light arm, I understand that the top arm needs to be in the “middle” balance holding the gimble+camera, but what about the back knob that controls the rope tension, what is the proper amount of tension of the rope? Are you supposed to let the rope be loose enough so the camera drops slightly? Or super tight? please help and thank you
Hey man just got mine and wondering the same thing. I think the correct way is to lock the stabil arm, via the lock on top, and then make sure the camera doesn't fall on its own when you let it hang. Then you can balance the stabil by making sure it stays level after you unlock it. I think it will take some finessing, and if you have found a good solution let me know! Thanks.
They are a bit tall, but it makes hand held shooting such a more enjoyable experience. It might be a good idea to rent one to make sure it works for you, but once I got mine, I cant live without it. Have a great day!
I have used EasyRig from version one way back in the day but even though they have been constantly updated, I have never really liked them mainly because that post over the head is very unwieldy especially shooting in tight spaces. I shoot a lot of live broadcast sports and was looking for an alternative, so I have been testing the Tilta handheld Float system with our huge broadcast cameras and surprisingly the arm was more than strong enough and so far I am impressed enough to definitely replace using the EasyRig in the way I have to shoot!👍🏾🙏🏾
If you don't mind me asking, what is your current setup? I also run the "megaladon" for live broadcast and have been tinkering with ways to improve my set up to add more z axis stability.
The test was interesting,👍 thank you very much.🙏🏻 But I think if we only use a gimbal and use the FLYCAM GLXY-AV vest, it will be much easier, cheaper, and better for records like this.
I think you camera balance on gimbal is wrong , you have a lot of strange movement in all shoots. Also, you need to walk different, you can't walk relaxed like you go on the street
Not a good comparison as it is because either your gimbal was not balanced properly or the payload is too tall (height is really crucial). Try the same thing without the battery grip!
I'm sorry, but the main reason to use the ring and support should not be to deal with jittery footage, but to help support the weight of the setup. This set up for a small camera such as the r5c is nonsensical. You should simply be using a smaller gimbal and you would be getting smooth results without all that nonsense around your body. I regularly use a canon r6 with an equally heavy lens and a simple weebil S - without any extra support - provides smooth motion without any hiccups . I have also recently bought an rs3 to pair with a C70, and the results are also smooth (nothing like what I am seeing here), albeit at the cost of holding it for extended periods. After seeing the first demonstration you make here I would believe it otherwise, if I didn't know better.
I actually do use a smaller setup all the time (especially when I am on smaller shoots or by myself), but the point of this test is when I am on bigger sets that require me to be working with teams of people. On shoots like that I am required to have things like wireless monitoring and Follow focus systems attached to the camera. In these situations, the mounting options a ring provides are a necessity. I also find in these situations, I am often required to have the camera up and ready for around 30-40 minutes at a time, which means setting the camera down to rest, is not an option, so a rig is a must. I did do this test with the RS2, and I have noticed a difference with the RS3. Thanks for the comment and have a great day.
@@DeafDirector Thank you for your reply, and for the effort you put into making your videos. I do understand your argument and I am not disputing that there are situations for which a support rig is needed. However, if I hadn't used the RS3 myself before, I would wrongly be led to think that such motion jerkiness is what one gets out of that gimbal without an Easyrig - which is not the case. Viewers would be better informed if they first saw the motion of a simpler set-up, where it would be obvious that such camera can be used in a very light, comfortable way, with smooth results. By pairing a naked R5C - a very light camera - with a large gimbal, plus a visibly naked ring, the example you chose became a bit strange, especially when you then show jerky footage as a result. Perhaps that was due to wrong balancing of the gimbal? Either way, thank you for the work! Have a great day as well.
While the rs2 can handle the weight you have on it, the height of your camera setup is adding a lot of stress on the motors which is why I’d say you see so much shake in the footage.
I agree. High setups are much harder on gimbals. Keep your package low and you'll much less of the jitters no matter which support system you use.
@@GeorgeAtanassov whats a good way to measure the height ?
@@creativegreatsvisualsi think I misspelled heavy
@@GeorgeAtanassov so the lighter weight on gimbal the less jitters ?
@@creativegreatsvisuals Yes, within limits. If adding weight is necessary to balance the camera or to attach accessories, aim to position them near the roll axis of the setup. So, ideally not always atop the camera. Moreover, the "firmer" and more stable your assembly, the better, since slight shifts between components may induce micro jitters as the center/axis of balance for the entire camera setup can shift.
This is the reason DJI offers lens support for weightier lenses.
I use a Ready Rig and my footage is perfectly smooth. Part of getting smooth footage is holding the ring lightly, not gripping it super tight. I think with more practice, you could get either to look very smooth. Also, it might help if your payload wasn't so crazy high and long.
Thanks, Sky. I have been using the Ready Rig for years and I have gotten a lot of great footage with it. I totally agree that you can get either system to look smooth, I was just really impressed with how much less work the EasyRig took. Thanks so much for the comment and have a great day!
Hey Sky - Great to read your comment 🙌. Been a Gimbal user for many years - but am new to using a Ready rig - was hoping to pick your brains about how to smooth out that 4th axis? any tips / tricks would be greatly appreciated :-) 👊
Very helpful, esp since I haven’t used either of these systems yet. Thanks
Great video, thank you for the review. The STABIL Light can be locked in 90 degrees to function as a 'normal' Minimax as well.
I love that function of the STABIL Light. Thanks so much for making such great equipment. I have both a Minimax and a STABIL Light, and I can't imagine going to set without one or the other. Your gear lets those of us behind the camera focus on the art and the story, and Easyrig is an invaluable part of the film community. Keep up the amazing work and have a great day!
I have question for easyrig. Retailer in my country said, "locked in 90 degrees to function as a 'normal' Minimax" is not recommended, but is it okay to use it that way up to 7kg?
Add in the Easyrig EasyTilt and you really have a complete system. I have the Easyrig Minimax and have the Stabil addition on order. Looking forward to play with it. Great video.
Thanks for the comparison :-) I checked out your other videos as well and my question is: Why is the elephant in the room missing? Tilta armor man 3 (what i understand) is exactly to remove this 4th axis problem. Do you have any experience with it?
With the Vega upgrade, my walking footage is exceptionally smooth.
I have noticed that when they attach a gimbal to a vehicle they have a suspension system made of ringed metal cable as a base. If one had to position a strong bungee between the hook and the camera, would that take some of the spring out of the steps?
Awesome video - what attachment are you using for the easy rigs quick release knob to the ring?
Thanks for the tests, really useful. What are the accessories you have clamped to the Tilta Ring Grip that you've threaded the easyrig ball mount to?
A lot of your vibrations actually comes from connection between a Gimbal and the ring! I highly advise putting a little bit of tape across the nipple of connecting part all the way to the bottom of it it will increase the pressure between the locking mechanism and the ring and got rid of a lot of unwanted jitters.
Fantastic advice! I appreciate the tip, Have a great day!
@@DeafDirector thank you for all of the amazing videos brother ❤️🙏, have a wonderful day as well.
Can you explain this mod a little bit more datailed? Would be great! Thank you!
hello, what's the reference of your rod clamp on your Tilta ring grip ? i don't found 30mm rod clamp
Hi awesome video, I just received my easyrig mini max with stabil light arm, I understand that the top arm needs to be in the “middle” balance holding the gimble+camera, but what about the back knob that controls the rope tension, what is the proper amount of tension of the rope? Are you supposed to let the rope be loose enough so the camera drops slightly? Or super tight? please help and thank you
Hey man just got mine and wondering the same thing. I think the correct way is to lock the stabil arm, via the lock on top, and then make sure the camera doesn't fall on its own when you let it hang. Then you can balance the stabil by making sure it stays level after you unlock it. I think it will take some finessing, and if you have found a good solution let me know! Thanks.
@@fatheadmediapro It has to be enough where it doesnt fall down or go up when you let go
Hey! I am thinking of getting an EasyRig Stabil for wedding filmmaking? are these good for that?
They are a bit tall, but it makes hand held shooting such a more enjoyable experience. It might be a good idea to rent one to make sure it works for you, but once I got mine, I cant live without it. Have a great day!
I have used EasyRig from version one way back in the day but even though they have been constantly updated, I have never really liked them mainly because that post over the head is very unwieldy especially shooting in tight spaces. I shoot a lot of live broadcast sports and was looking for an alternative, so I have been testing the Tilta handheld Float system with our huge broadcast cameras and surprisingly the arm was more than strong enough and so far I am impressed enough to definitely replace using the EasyRig in the way I have to shoot!👍🏾🙏🏾
Thanks for the note. I am really interested in the Tilta float. Is the Rig comfortable after a full day of shooing? Have a great day!
If you don't mind me asking, what is your current setup? I also run the "megaladon" for live broadcast and have been tinkering with ways to improve my set up to add more z axis stability.
The test was interesting,👍 thank you very much.🙏🏻 But I think if we only use a gimbal and use the FLYCAM GLXY-AV vest, it will be much easier, cheaper, and better for records like this.
I think you camera balance on gimbal is wrong , you have a lot of strange movement in all shoots. Also, you need to walk different, you can't walk relaxed like you go on the street
Not a good comparison as it is because either your gimbal was not balanced properly or the payload is too tall (height is really crucial).
Try the same thing without the battery grip!
90% of the motion is from stressing the gimbal motors due to imbalance.
I'm sorry, but the main reason to use the ring and support should not be to deal with jittery footage, but to help support the weight of the setup. This set up for a small camera such as the r5c is nonsensical. You should simply be using a smaller gimbal and you would be getting smooth results without all that nonsense around your body. I regularly use a canon r6 with an equally heavy lens and a simple weebil S - without any extra support - provides smooth motion without any hiccups . I have also recently bought an rs3 to pair with a C70, and the results are also smooth (nothing like what I am seeing here), albeit at the cost of holding it for extended periods. After seeing the first demonstration you make here I would believe it otherwise, if I didn't know better.
I actually do use a smaller setup all the time (especially when I am on smaller shoots or by myself), but the point of this test is when I am on bigger sets that require me to be working with teams of people. On shoots like that I am required to have things like wireless monitoring and Follow focus systems attached to the camera. In these situations, the mounting options a ring provides are a necessity. I also find in these situations, I am often required to have the camera up and ready for around 30-40 minutes at a time, which means setting the camera down to rest, is not an option, so a rig is a must. I did do this test with the RS2, and I have noticed a difference with the RS3. Thanks for the comment and have a great day.
@@DeafDirector Thank you for your reply, and for the effort you put into making your videos. I do understand your argument and I am not disputing that there are situations for which a support rig is needed. However, if I hadn't used the RS3 myself before, I would wrongly be led to think that such motion jerkiness is what one gets out of that gimbal without an Easyrig - which is not the case. Viewers would be better informed if they first saw the motion of a simpler set-up, where it would be obvious that such camera can be used in a very light, comfortable way, with smooth results. By pairing a naked R5C - a very light camera - with a large gimbal, plus a visibly naked ring, the example you chose became a bit strange, especially when you then show jerky footage as a result. Perhaps that was due to wrong balancing of the gimbal? Either way, thank you for the work! Have a great day as well.
The gimbal isn't set up right, that's more than half the jiggle.
R5 released 1.6.0 rom
Tbh all shots are gonna need post stabilisation so just go with what’s more comfortable