The Patriots Have A QB Controversy (Thanks To Bailey Zappe)
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
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Patriots Quarterback 0:00
Mac Jones 0:29
Bailey Zappe 2:50
Quarterback Controversy 6:05
New England Patriots 7:51
#Patriots #BaileyZappe #MacJones - Спорт
You always make these jump to conclusion videos.
thank you someone said it other than me after 1 preseason game he the type to see the cards winning the sb 😂😂 point me to better nfl content creators
Facts bro. The season barely started and he’s down shitting on Mac Jones.
Viewssss
@@jaidonarradondo441 Thinking Football & Top Billin’ two of my faves. Mikerophone reports on EVERYTHING & Flemlo does storytelling.
And yet here you are still watching and commenting on them 🤷♂️
Love the support for Zappe as he delivered impressive performances so far backing up for Mac. That said, those saying Mac is on the hot seat need to watch Mac’s film and recognize that he is a starter and is stages ahead of Zappe.
Mac has the field IQ but no game, Zappe has game and can improve his field IQ
@ladawg81 Its also that the playbook is slimmed down, hes played well, but they need to simplify it and run the ball more to set up the pass
@ladawg81 what i mean is moreso that they loved those wierd deep shot 50/50s with mac which the pats cant execute. with zappe they seem to be going back to basic north south running, short throw football. I didnt see many deep risky throws from zappe because the pats know thats not the recipe for success with him. it could have been growing pains but the pats offense i saw in baltimore was not the same one i saw in detroit or clevelend
Bro mac jones cant extend plays bro if u watch the film he does not have good pocket presence and does not have a strong arm . Zappe has good pocket presence and can extend plays and avoid sacks zappe is the guy for the pats mac is good but zappe has more potential mac has high floor low ceiling cause he cant extend plays and. Does not have a strong arm
@@addiaz1866 let me come back to this comment in a few weeks
You guys need to chill, mac is going to be the starter when he comes back.
Unless, Zappe continues to win then the Patriots won't take him out.
thank you someone said it other than me after 1 preseason game he the type to see the cards winning the sb 😂😂 point me to better nfl content creators
@@PokeMaster03 👎
how old was you when Brady beat out a real good Bledsoe? if your under 30 you should hush. mac is not good. he is not
@@PokeMaster03 nothing zappe does within these 5-6 games will mean anything. Mac brought them to the playoffs last year with less talent than they have now. No chance Zappe starts unless Mac shits the bed.
What if, instead of Mac being the new Brady, Mac is the new Bledsoe and Zappe is the new Brady
😳. Zappe is the 🐐confirmed?
Zappe >
Yep
I mean…Zappe does rhyme with Brady
@@nintendostyle3500 totally 😂
Crazy how fast you switched up from saying he’d dominate in year 2 to saying he ain’t shit
These kind of videos are getting more and more common here. I'm this close to unsubscribing.
He hasn’t finished year 2 yet?
@@MoLiEG89 I already did because of this video.
@@somerandompatriotsfan4415 exactly that’s why this guy sucks he was playing with a back injury before the ankle injury and this guy is saying he sucks. Wait until he comes back fresh and see where things go before saying Zappe should start over him.
Hatorade
They're both equally game-manager
Zappe played a game and a half. We don't know what he is yet.
Brady and Montana played manage game and got eleven rings out of them so I’ll take that over 50 touchdowns a year and no ring
@@kylerush7948 lol, they were a bit better than just game managers tho.
@@jack799 true but not the way they played. Brady dinked and dunked five to ten yards for years, Montana the same. It doesn’t mean they are bad but they took care of the ball and won a lot of games with that west coast offense. How many does Rodgers, mahomes, Allen have?
@@jack799 brady’s first 3 rings were very game managery especially the first one
I’d be surprised if Mac got beat out for the starting role… But, who knows.
you never know with bill. he doesnt give a fugg about where u was picked. it's all about results. if zappe keeps playing well he gonna keep playing him
I really dont see nothing special in Mac....had he been drafted by the Jets he would be out of the league
@JP Your dumb if you think that
@@JP-wm1cc Yep that’s exactly why he didn’t go top 5 while people like Trey Lance who played subpar competition and wasn’t nearly as accomplished as Mac Jones went top 3. High floor Low ceiling
@@JP-wm1cc facts
There’s no qb controversy
Mac Jones is their guy
no he was
giselle is now dating zappe though
Mac comes back and throws 4 ints and gets benched. Still your guy?
no he is not Bill picked Zappe and Kraft took Mac. Mac sucks
@@angoose4295 😂 😂 good question.
Honestly I want the best quarterback to play, if Bailey pushes Mac to Mac him better, great. If zappe is hungry and is trying to win, great as well. I would rather have Mac personally but it’s good to have a quarterback controversy cause it pushes the players to their max potiental
Stop being high bro. Really after one start???? Overhype much?
- From a Patriots fan
For how long 💀
Yeah I might have to stop watching this channel. So many bad takes but he’s a good presenter.
Ikr Mac is going to start either way when he comes back
If your really a Pats fan then admit that mac has sucked the end of last year and this season. Hes literally gotten worse right in front of us🤣. 4 int and 2td in 3 whole games against some pretty bad defenses. He was supposed to be better than last season NO EXCUSES. I didnt even count the pick in miami because that was a no call Howard did pass interfere with Parker. The game Mac was injured though and the last time he took the field he was at HOME and threw 3 picks and 0 tds against the leagues worst defense and secondary at the time Balitimore Ravens. Thats the same shitty defense that allowed Tua to throw damn near 500yds and 6!!!! count em 6!!!! TDs 🤣🤣🤣 Mac is a pick throwing nervous wreck with a baby arm and honestly we don't need him here. Maybe Carolina or Jacksonville or something but he does't fit here. Too unbrady like too many Ints and bonehead passes, too many floating lollipops uggh should I countinue? Zappe on the other hand looks amazing and better at just about everything. Hes made VERY little mistakes*** Along with his good quick decision making, pocket awareness, confidence and BALL PLACEMENT. I like him better already. I'll be depressed if Mac comes back to start. I'm tired of being the laughing stock of the afc east. We want to win again We want a real QB again. Zappe looks like a real QB. Mac looks like a back-up at best.
No they don’t lol
Bill wouldn’t bench Mac
He benched Drew
@@witcherfan7315 yeah but that’s different. Bledsoe wasn’t that good and Bledsoe was 30 when he got benched Mac is 24
@@Youthinkyoutheking__burgerking he also had just made Bledsoe the highly paid QB in NFL history. He also benched/cut Bernie Kosar.
hell he wont 🤣 he'll do what ever to win are you crazy? Plus macs been playing like shit too haha easy decision. I can see mac on a plane to carolina for mccaffrey or sumthing right now. He simply hasn't been good and Bailey has I mean Zappes looked reeaally reaally well. The quick decision making, pocket awareness and ball placement is a lot like that #12 guy that used to play here. Hes just a little shorter and more mobile so it looks cool when he moves around.
@@Youthinkyoutheking__burgerking noo lol its not different its the same because mac aint that good either haha. hes basically sucked this year and the end of last season what are you watching?
The cuts you put in this were absolutely hilarious and spot on (report with bug and civilian calling out Agholor .. lmao)
I laughed really hard on that.and still am
That was the Philly guy catching a baby from a fire saying he had to make the catch unlike Agholor.
Imagine Mac being Drew Bledsoe and Zappe being Tom Brady
Let’s calm down. It was against the lions lol
Remember Matt Flynn?!
battle of the system qbs
remember people thought sam darnold was good after 3 games with the panthers? lol
When he said @ 2:34 his third game was “just gross” i busted out laughing 😂😭
fr first 3 quarters were the best i’ve seen mac play
As much a I love Zappe, I really want to give Mac some more time.
This video is strictly here to fire up the comment section. I'm taking the bait because I can't help myself. There is no QB controversy. Mac is the man and he will continue to get better. Glad we have a decent backup in Zappe. You being a Pats fan, watching every game and knowing all the variables involved only confirms that this video is designed to spark engagement and do nothing else. No chance you actually feel this way, man
Thats what they said about bledso too 👀
@@Jason-rr1xu If I said, "walrus-tree plus yellow elephant-bird divided by John F. Kennedy times the square root of Bosnian Rastafari gangster rap odyssey minus buddhist brazilian jiu jitsu equals Matt Patricia's game plan" that would make more sense than a Tom-Bledsoe/Mac-Zappe comparison
@@JR-ii5de by no means am i comparing either mac or zappe to brady or bledsoe but zappe looks better fot this team nothing mac has done has looked exciting
@@Jason-rr1xu Honestly, man coaching/play calling and Oline has been so bad, I almost want the Mac haters to get their wish. For whatever reason they let Zappe use play action as a crutch but wouldn't let Mac use it or RPO, they started to implement play action and he improved. I don't have the energy to really defend Mac anymore tho. Let them put Zappe in for an extended period of time and we'll see what happens.... I don't think it will be good but I almost need it to happen just to prove it. This team sucks tho. Penalties. Horrible play calling. Arrogant Bill pissing away his legacy. I wish I didn't care....
Mac Jones is still adjusting and it was one game for zappe against the lions of all teams, No hate on zappe but I think Mac is the way to roll.
Y’all it’s one game stop. Zappy did his job, but I’m rolling with Mac until he consistently proves he anit the guy no more
He hasn't proven anything in 2022
I'm a Bailey Zappe fan and he definitely is that guy
Still is.
Great video & I agree with just about everything you said , except for the offensive weapons. It’s not horrible , yeah not great but we have a decent group of wide receivers this year , so you can’t really blame them . I think it’s more of not good enough or mediocre quarterback play and offensive coordinator/play call problems , not getting this weapons in open space or using their strength . Davonte Parker , Jakobi myers , Nelson algohlor , Kendrick Bourne , Damien Harris , rhamkndre stevenson , tyquan Thornton , Jonnu smith & hunter Henry is a decent solid core of weapons in offense . Now if you were talking about a couple years ago back in 2019, & 2020, then yeah for sure you can for sure blame the lack of bad offensive weapons . In 2019 Brady had it badddd, he had a bad Nkeal harry, Phillip Dorsett , an underperforming Mohammad Sanu & an Edelman who was hurt a lot of the season or playing hurt. His best WR & most reliable weapon that year was a freaking rb in James white . Only good weapon that whole year . Still made the playoffs and almost got the one seed but lost those crucial last games instead . In 2020 cam had it bad too , he had nkeal harry , Damiere Byrd , Edelman , moncrief , gunner olszewski , and a young jakobi myers . So about the same as 2019 . But this year the offensive weapons is definitely more & better than 2019 & 2020 .
hahahahah I LOST it on the thats just Agholor part. I FEEL THE PAIN
Mac Jones looked great last year, but we also had an offensive scheme that worked. We lost McDaniels, refused to replace him, have Matt fucking Patricia calling plays, tried a new offensive scheme, and didn't bother getting Jones a single playmaker during the off-season when all those trades were happening. Their best effort was Davante Parker, who is okay but isn't a true alpha receiver. Give Mac Jones a Gabe Davis type receiver, a Stallone to compliment the workhorse that is Meyers, and you'll see a lot more happen.
Mac is the guy full stop no controversy
your very wrong. gtitty dancing mac is soft and not good. can we make a bet? i am 42 and watch Brady best Bledsoe as a man. i bet you was a baby then huh?
@@lordoffaiyum9727 reports from camp said Brady was playing better than bledsoe. Bledsoe even admitted that in one of his interviews. There were no reports that zappe was playing better than Mac. And bledsoe was playing like ass before Brady came in anyways. These are different situations old timer.
To everyone saying B Zappe doesn't have the arm strength to be a starter....
You remember when everyone said that about Mac Jones, right? Arm strength can be increased.
Was that your voice I heard in the Intro to the Monday night game a few days ago? I could swear the broadcast played the audio from the intro to this very video in the Monday night intro.
No way!! It totally was! Thanks for pointing this out 😂
@@JDProdNFL I recognized it live but forgot to post Monday. Congrats.
Zappe has done something no QB has done around here since TB12 left....the games are FUN to watch again!! We are not doing predictable plays that will either boringly more the chains a bit or shut us down. And Zappe is a style of QB that we have never seen in these parts. The closest would be when i came onboard Patriots Nation and Steve Grogan was QB (near the end of his career). He was mobile in the pocket, but typically just to run it. Zappe is a surprise. He will dance around out of the pocket and make a pass. He may leave and then run it. He will start running an then pass. FUN.....it FUN to watch!!! I've been sooooo bored!!! He is a breath of fresh air.
And 2 last points. I never felt Mac was a good as folks acted. They wanted a new QB to adore. He seemed like a nice kid, so OK, it's him. But dang he messes up alot and BB has coddled him. I see FAR more potential with Zappe. 2nd, the team has rallied around Zappe in a way I didn't see for Mac (or the Alien lol..not a Cam fan). Not sure why, but they have been responding FAR better to him than anyone else. BB will always go w/the best player. I'm hoping Zappe is out there for a long time, as long as his play supports it!!!
Is this the same Bailey Zappe who snapped the ball 1.5 seconds after the play clock expired to throw a TD pass during the Packers game? Or is this a different one?
The refs should’ve called that but it was his first nfl game give him a break
@@andrewstone7316 They had just called it the play before! LOL
So the GB players quit on the play not the whistle? No wonder they suck.
You just broke my heart because everything you said was exactly true 😓 Go Pats!
It was Jared Goff versus the patriots defense what did y’all expect
Take a chill pill guy.. mac's our guy.
Two young QBs, still developing. I’d say let them push each other to get better, and see who prevails. Isn’t this something Belichick wants at every position group? Maybe they can become much more than great game managers, and be more than another Kirk Cousins.
Agholor must beat this nasty tendency to play volleyball with footballs thrown his way, otherwise he is a pretty good receiver.
That Agholor is still getting starts over KB with all of his turnover issues this year, pisses me of to no end
Well Zappe is certainly doing his level best to create one
I love Zappe... and as a Rams fan... if they choose either QB... I'd wish my team would invest in either Zappe or Mac Jones and try to pry him from Belichick's claws.. because Matt Stafford is starting to show Peyton Manning Noodle ARM Disease.
What's sad is that Stafford has probably has a top 5 biggest arm in nfl history. Accurate no, but in pure yeeting force Stafford got an actual bazooka of an arm. Seeing him deteriorate just shows how you can't be at your peak longer than 10-15 years (unless you're tom brady who peaked at 35(
I wouldn’t blame Stafford 100% this year since the O-Line has major issues and is changing every week. Robinsons been kind of a let down too so far ngl.
Nelson Agholor, despite the occasional drops, is still a pretty good WR.
hes just one of those players you remember the bad plays he makes more than the good cause they're just so frustrating to watch.
I see the future. 24/34 for 309 and 2 touchdowns against Cleveland… full blown QB controversy
Lmao it’s been 1 start and he threw for like 180 and a td against a bad lions defense, dunno how those are worldbeater stats. Y’all need to chill haha, and I’m not a pats or a mac fan either fwiw
The kid looks good so far!!! But we need to see him in a few more games first.
I'm a pats fan and I just think it's a bit dumb to assume anything about bailey Zappie who has only played 3 games for us, and also to assume something about mac Jones who has only played 1 season for us so far.
The issue with the Pats offense isn’t Mac Jones. It’s Matt Patricia and Joe Judge. Belichick needs to consider giving the reigns to Troy Brown or calling up Edelman to call the offensive plays if it continues to be anemic.
Yeah 10th best offense and 4th best rushing attack in league with mediocre weapons. This with Meyers missing 2 games, no 3rd down back and starting QB out 2 games. Fire these two clowns and let Troy run things.
@@MassAppeal966 17th in yards per game, tied for 21st in passing yards, as of week 5. Only thing the offense does well is run (9th). Team is even bottom 14 in points per game.
Keep in mind that the PPG went up without Mac Jones, since you want to add in the “without their starting qb” excuse. I’m not saying that Mac’s a top QB in the league but that the offense took a significant downgrade without McDaniels. Judge had his hands in 2 of the worst league offenses as a head coach, and Patricia had 3 bottom half offenses as head coach (2 of which ranked 20th or worse), 2 of which had Stafford.
I think it's far to early to judge these guys. I remember the big knock on Aaron Rodgers is that he was a system quarter back coming out of ucla. I also quite vividly remember people hyping up Alex Smith for his iq and methodical play style but ultimately Smith was a system qb. Josh Allen was widely considered a bust in his first two years but yet he has dispelled that myth. We really don't know what we have in Zappe, Jones and other rookie/sophmore qbs yet.
I hate this stuff. The backup without any tape comes in and has 1 decent game and people already starting this nonsense.
Zappe looks like Jones if he legally changed his name and grew some peach fuzz
This happens every year, duck hodges, nick mullens, mike white. And they never become anything.
Why does everyone look past the fact that Jones is 2-6 in his last 8 starts.........those are early retirement numbers.
nah personally there isn't lmao....its more like Lamar/Huntley where they have two similar QBs who can run the system
nice editing and sentence structure . sounds a little familiar tho!
Please god. Dont let Bailey Zappe, be the next Tom Brady. :()
Saw Zappe play live vs UTSA last year and I gotta say he’s a hell of a player. Bill has to make the right choice at qb
Watch the pats draft Frank Wilson next year
Zappe needs to be QB #1 for New England
And this last game was great
trubisky made the pro bowl too lol
They are the same type of qb
We thought Mac was Brady but no he was Bledsoe
People need to chill out with zappe it’s only been like a game and like 3 quarters. There is no QB controversy
No, they haven't.
They didn't draft Mac Jones as the new Brady. They drafted him as The new Bledsoe
right and zappe was drafted in the 4th round👀 4...brady vibes?
@@cityofthechamps6242 Yo. Change your name to City of Dynasties. Boston Celtics and Pats will make another Dynasty. .......... Yes, Brady Vibes.
The only thing accurate here is that Zappe has looked great in his short time at QB...certainly for a rookie. Don''t agree that Mac is on a lateral trajectory with an average ceiling. The more you talk, the more you show you don't much about football. Jakobi Meyers is a great WR, and you're basically passing him off as Nelson Agholor 2.0. Oh, BTW...Even Agholor has shown signs of WR life this season.
Don't quit your day job.
Oh my God.. The Patriots did it again lol. They found another Brady. This dude had 6000 passing yards and 62 TDs in 14 games last year. That's 426 yards a game and almost 5 TDs a game at 69.3%. There's no in between for this guy, he's either a bust or the next elite NFL qb.
Yeah right. Zappe is nothing but a Jay Cutler without the arm.
Especially after today...
That’s not Matt Damon 😂
Nah LMAFO, we're starting Mac over Zappe when he comes back unless Zappe turns into Lord Shiva.
Who dat?
hmm thats odd because mac is playing like shit and zappes been basically mistake free
They don’t
Macs face looks like the scream mask in that pic
Great video. I agree with almost all of it
No. They don't.
Mac Jones to start with a 20-7 first 2 QTRs, Zappe the reliever in the 3QTR , forces the defense to switch up 35-14, Brian Hoyer comes in for the SAVE 42-17.. Game over, REDSOX nation!!! NFL will be forced to create a "SAVE" category!!! LMAO
It’s 2023, and this video is only making more sense. I don’t know why McDaniels was Mac’s QB whisperer, but man when they were together they just gelled so well. I wish we had lost Bill and not Josh, so that we would at least have competent QB play for the last couple seasons.
I agree with you. Go with the hot hand.
They going to have a towel boy situation here…
Mac will win this battle and be better.
no they have a trade asset
Can't help but to think, this is Coach Bills new experiment 🤷🏾♂️ ZAPPE is a beast right now. A leader .
Wait.... don't start the hype until after the pats beat someone besides Detroit
This is, once again, an extremely crazy take from you guys. And a very, very bad one... again.
Mac Jones is the future for the Pats. And we still don't know what Zappe is yet. 2 games is a microscopic sample. Dude can play? Yes. Can he bench Jones and make the Pats throw him to the trash can? Remains to be seen.
Why does this situation kind of remind me of Dew Bledsoe and the Tom Brady situation?
I still believe playcalling is the main reason why these qb stats aren't great. too conservative and every time they get to the red zone, Patricia decides to go 2 straight runs and throw on 3rd and long. they're too predictable on offense
Don’t Waste Your Time Watching This, No We Don’t.
I thought Zappe was a Wish version of Jones, but maybe Jones is Wish Zappe.
Plot twist, Bailey Zappe is the next Ryan Fitzpatrick
😂😂😂
So you gonna talk about Geno Smith at some point?
Thank god that horrible contract for Nelson was only a 2 year deal.
I was literally in to the video learning on what'd going on with the New England and all sudden He just throw in that song for quick moment lol 🎶 And I And yea had me dying 💀surprisely one didn't even brought that up in the comments @3:53 🤣🤣
When I hear people making a big deal about a quarterback beating the Lions, I think of a boxing term. Tomato can.
Mac Daddy Jones or Bailey Zappe?
There’s a reason Mac is the starter and Bailey is the 3rd string…
People said the same thing about Dak and Cooper Rush. The teams know they have very solid backups, but if the starter is ready to go, you obviously will select the starter.
C’mon now.
Zappe is competent tho, broke joe burrows passing record in college
No they do not - Moving On
What happened to Hoyer?
Lots of similarities between Zappe and Brady.
I love how people say things like "Im not saying he will be the next Tom Brady" after literally just trying to draw comparisons to him. That's exactly what your saying but hedging your bets knowing its unlikely anyone can ever be that good again. I compare him much more to literally every other backup that came in and looked good for a few games until D's figured him out. as it is far far more likely he ends up as Matt Cassel instead of Tom Brady.
Can we please pump the brakes!
There's no controversy. Mac is the better QB. Once he's healthy enough to play, he'll play.
This isn't Brady-Bledsoe II either. Tom Brady was better than Drew Bledsoe throughout training camp of 2001. It's why he kept Brady as the starter. Patriots were 5-5 (5-3 with Brady starting) when Belichick declared Brady the starter the rest of the year.
You definitely underrated
Tom Brady vs Eli Manning = Bailey Zappe vs Daniel Jones 🤔🤫👀
I can see both Mac and Zappe being great starters in the future. I think Zappe could be like Jimmy G. Gets traded to another team and ends up playing good.
Its times like these where im glad the vikings arent in the AFC
I don't know about that Kirk comparison. Being on track to be a top 10 QB sounds great to me
there is no QB controversy in New England but i respect that you wanted to jump on the bandwagon to get some views. pretty smart move imo. also listening to you talk about the ravens game makes me think you only watched the 4th quarter. he went toe to toe against lamar until the last quarter. yeah they lost the game because of his picks and the one fumble but they were also in the game because mac kept them in the game. this video honestly screams " im apart of the zappe stan train"
This. Exactly this.
Bros 1 and 1 what's the hype his a good back up look at cooper Rush I don't understand the obsession people have with over hyping back ups bailey was good in college but pump the breaks a little he still has alot to prove a healthy mac wins that job