NEW SRAM GX Eagle Transmission | Unboxing, Installation And First Ride
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- A few months ago SRAM released the latest version of their top-of-the-range Eagle AXS wireless transmission, a new generation of wireless electronic gear shifting for performance-oriented riders who want to be able to shift under load. However, with high-performance components comes a premium price tag... Until now, the all-new SRAM GX.
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What do you think of the new SRAM AXS GX groupset?
Still a fair bit more expensive than past generations but they work amazingly! Wonder what Shimano is going to do to keep up!
Love how clean this looks, hopefully bike brands spec these on complete bikes
Would love for you guys to do a side by side comparison of both of those new transmissions and really break it down with a features, and a pro's and con's list. This would be a huge help for a lot of us in the decision making when wanting to upgrade either because a trans exploded or just wanting to improve what we already have
To F'ing expensive!!!
It would be a great addition to a new bike, however it is just to expensive to justify upgrading .
Glad to see Doddy back on his bike. His style is my favorite one out the team. Smooth Operator
couldn’t agree more
What was up with him? Must've missed something there....
@@user-rv4mq3xv3p nothing just not ridden on camera for a while
Knawledge ❤😂
Yeah wtf was that whole doddy missing BS? He was being a drama queen or what
my new bike has GX axs, on the new canyon actually! I am stoked and can't wait to ride it!
Modern SRAM drivetrains are a work of art.
I recently pulled the trigger and bought the Axs XX T Tyoe. Fitted it to my trail bike and it’s flipping awesome. Doddle to fit and under load gear changes are a game changer. This GX version is the same thing just a fair bit cheaper. Prefer the battery placement too, something them didn’t do on the top tier versions. Awesome kit, SRAM are knocking it our the park at the mo. Paired it up with the new Ultimate stealth brakes also. Tidies up the cockpit and cables hardly noticeable now. Such a clean look with the AxS dropper. 👌👍
Hi do you have new Axs system or the first generation?
@@slavbielesz184 it’s the brand new transmission XX T type full drivetrain which removes the UDH. Not cheap but awesome. The new GX T Type offers very similar functionality for a fair amount cheaper. However still not cheap but brilliant 👌
Thanks for your reply.
been mtb for 30 years. analogue shifting has never ever ever been an issue. long live analogue....
I have exactly the same feeling as you. I use a mechanical 1x12 sram GX and I do not really see the point of the electronic gears. I have ridden bikes with electronic gears and I do not notice the shifting difference, a few milliseconds do not really matter if only a computer can notice them, I could not really see the benefit of it in racing or hobby riding. A well installed and maintained gear cable and mec shifts perceptively just as good and within similar precision. I really wish that Sram and Shimano will not fade out developing new mechanical group sets. Not saying that I am opposing the technology but I wish they still made both mechanical and wireless so they can please both parties.
I have a feeling that soon this kind of debate will transform into one of those rim brake vs disk brake topics.
@@alexandrugabriel8510 agree
@@alexandrugabriel8510 after riding both, I would take a gx axs over analogue any day, the only problem is the cost...
Until you hit it on a rock.
@@colincoulthard3021 Funny, I've hit several rocks, and had several 'yard sale' wrecks. Derailleurs survived just fine..
That's some awesome tech! cant believe how far biking has come.
Yea it's come so far! Here's a bike check one of the first EVER mountain Bikes (1976 KLUNKER) 👉 ruclips.net/video/KscY0cBGCwI/видео.html
@@gmbntech Sweet, thanks!
@gmbntech what is the chain slap like on this model? Is the clutch stronger than the previous generation AXS GX?
Great video and great technology. Will be installing the GX version on my epic evo very soon! Thanks for taking the time to show us the install procedure. 👍
The shift pod definitely took some getting used to after that I'm very pleased with mine.
SRAM's revolutionized drivetrain system is really disrupting the MTB market. I'm starting to see some of us with bikes that does not have the UDH as part of history. Guess I have to start collecting soda cans again to get myself a new bike.
Welcome back Doddy, great video!
I own a 2020 Enduro bike with full X01 AXS and I'm quite unpleased it's not compatible with non UDH bike i own, which is a pity. We all need to blame manufacturers for fucking mess with hanger design. I'm happy SRAM rolled UDH and I hope no bike comes w/o udh in the future. Oh well Sram T-Type is not for me for next 2-3 years :/
Just got this for my 22 Levo. You convinced me. I ride in Northern California tons of flow and gravity here in the redwoods or on coast or inland mountains. With some of the rolling spots flat to climb in short turns this should work well to keep speed up. You know what I’m saying.
as good as it looks, aint no way *everyone* is getting that. I reckon most people will still be running wired mechs for decades to come
The Chinese are hot on their heels
If the price comes down I think a lot of people will switch
Never ridden one of these systems but I really like the sound of them. I just ordered a new Stumpjumper 15 Expert so I will get to try it out soon!
Gotta love it when you can pretty much throw parts at a bike and they just work.
This is new groupset is sickkkk!!
Agreed, I think everyone wanted to know what GX would cost and when it would release 😁
I personally want to know if I can still use my Canfield cranks with an aftermarket T-Type 3-bolt DM chainring and still use this drivetrain. (Cmon Wolftooth!)
I've got a feeling you won't run into any trouble using a normal 12 speed sram ring with this, but who knows.
Your wish came true. Wolf tooth just released some chainrings recently for transmission that will work with your old cranks.
@@radian2323 Heeeeell yea!
I think the SRAM T-type AXS Transmission is perfect for a full power MTB; but my 17 yr old MTB with Shimano Deore XT 3X10 has always shifted reliably under extreme duress going up a steep bluff in the woods! I think that is why Shimano is not feeling any pressure to change. XT is already fantastic!!!
Hmm. Very nice. I think this groupset would be good on a ebike too. One thing I'm always mindfully of on a ebike is under tension gear changes, they can really damage the chain etc. This system might help reduce that
Welcome back Doddy! Hyped about this, it’s awesome to see this new technology in a lower price point is awesome to see and will definitely be looking into this more
I like that it's all black without the polished bits of the higher-end versions.
Wow... $270? My most recent cassette was about $50. That's an XT 10-speed, but it still seems like the prices are getting a bit absurd.
Agreed!
10 speed but how do you climb up a hill?
That's typical SRAM. The regular GX eagle cassette is $225. A Shimano XT 12 speed cassette is $150 and a SLX 12 speed cassette is $100.
@@alabaster4263easily, just drop the chainring a couple of teeth. I have no use for big gears
@@alabaster4263good ol MUSCLE
Can’t wait for the Sram SX Axs to drop!
Wow they didn't change the bottom bracket stand, thx Sram.
This is very helpful. I have been contemplating on getting the GX AXS group set. Thanks!
For me its still to expensive.
But with the gx its getting better
Maybe in a year or two
It just made all the high end mechanical groupsets (XTR, XO1, XX1) obsolete though. $1100 is cheaper than XTR or XX1 and only a little more than XO1.
@@mrvwbug4423I just bought for that reason. Yes its still expensive but it honestly seems like a pretty good deal to me for what you’re getting. Cant wait to try it out.
@@mrvwbug4423
Yea but thats no valid argument.
With release of the Transmission line up it was obvious, that the "old" eagle line up will be substituted with that. As always it startet from the top end, with the lower price points released later. The Problem is, although named gx, so like the mid range predecessor, the new gx is priced way above that.
The people who bought XTR now can buy gx
The people who want more can buy the new expensive stuff. But what is with the people who bought gx and nx?
When gx eagle was released it was priced around 500
The gx transmission costs a grand
@@mrvwbug4423
This is a Problem we can see in every industry. Doesnt matter what we look at
Lets say there is a budget-series a normal-sries and an ultra-series
The Budget 2019 once costed 200
The Normal 2019 400
The Ultra 2019 700
In 2022 they release new models
The Budget 2022 now costs 380
The Normal 2022 costs 650
The Ultra Costs 1000
Althogh named like before they price each one a tier higher. But because they name it the old way many guys dont think about it. Especially not the reviewer. Great for the people who want everything. But what about the people who once bought the Budget? There is nothing left for them in the 2022 Series.
Lets see how its gonna be with the Transmission line. In the eagle line the high end Stuff costed 1.5 grand, the best bang for buck was 500-600 (gx). That was the "group of the people" and the budget one was around 300-400
I am quiet sure they will call the gx the group for the people, although priced the same a few years ago the high end group was priced. Its so ridiculous
Now they
I’ve got one coming. This video made me even more excited for it
After two years of use, I had a bad experience with a GX Eagle AXS : one of the pogo pins making the connection between the battery and the derailleur broke. Of course warranty was void by two months. When contacted for a solution SRAM answered me that unfortunately there was nothing they can do to fix my problem. Solution proposed: buy a new derailleur!! I will think about it twice next time, that's for sure.
yea after 15 Years my Snowboard broke, Of course warranty was void by 10 years and they didn't replace it.
Will not buy that again.....
If you had any brain you would just call there 10x times and one of those someone will help you.
But yea... ;)
over the last couple of years I've built all the bikes I wanted. None have UDH so all this makes me a little salty. Luck of the draw I guess.
always evolving, when you buy it its allready outdated :D can be rough for sure
Let's hope the udh will last as long as the post mount standard
Looks pretty sweet, after I wear mine out, I might go for it.
What's all the fuss about shifting under load? Shimano xt and xtr do that with absolutely no issues....
I'm all for them as long as the don't rely on using apps, and if you want to see why just look at the latest stories of the Nissan Leaf where the app is no longer supported and features like being able to start up the heater and get the battery warm in a morning before you get in are no longer supported. Or HP printers where you now are being forced into a subscription service so you can print. Built in obsolescence and you get to spend another grand on the latest shifter.
Doddy, how’s the clutch? The prev GX AXS clutch was weaker and caused a lot of chain slap and noise. Is the new GX AXS, enduro race ready? #askgmbntech
It was a weak clutch for sure, but the main problem was the whole DR slopping around as there is no cable housing to keep it tensioned. This new T-Type DR doesn't move, and they have increased the tension on the clutch. Downside is they say it does wear the battery down quicker. But apparently no more chain slap.
What a great video!! Thanks Doddy, cheers from Mexico!
My pleasure!
@@gmbntech I’m In the process of getting the New Cervelo ZFS-5 with that Same Sram GX ya have on that bike. My current bike is a 2012 Niner Rip 9.
great to see Dodi reviewing this. used to read MBUK over 10 years ago and always enjoyed reading his reviews! awesome writing and style ! MTB rider from Oz. im enjoying my AXS XO t-type on my slash!
My friends! The washer that fits the crank was placed the other way around! It should fit the botton bracket!
Lower price point, please @SRAM (if it's really "for the people") Good job Doddy! 👍💯😎
I could listen to Doddy talk about bikes for hours.
As a test, try the derailleur only on a bike with nx all round for example. Be interesting if it worked OK or not.
I'm curious as well, as I have the NX groupset and wanted to just buy the RD and the Controller...I'll ask LBS as well before purchasing.
@@dongkapuyawn5107 Well, they're already stated that this is designed only for the new cassette series they created, while the NX is still based on the previous Eagle design. I'm sure it will still function, but your experience will be absolutely nothing like what you see in reviews.
That being said, the NX cassette is kind of garbage so it'd make more sense to sell it if it's relatively new or wear it out and then upgrade.
Gears are not spaced the same as older eagle 12 speed. They are much closer together.
I was about to convert to xo1 since I'm in a forced downtime period, I might wait a bit ... Just for the battery position it might be worth it...
All is great but the price.
look at that windswept hair, must ride fast this lad
The GX version sure has nice battery position...but guess the parallelgram arms aren't replaceable like on the XO and XX. For me the XO is prob the best choice and looks best of the 3.
Have I noticed that the BB spacer was installed the wrong side out? 🙈
Doddy, did you leave the shifting 'backwards'? I am glad to see someone else feels that the upper button to shift up the cogs makes more sense! Well, when the revised paddle for the prior version came out, the new paddle was more consistent with the mechanical shifter when set up backwards so now I have all my bikes set up that way including the ones with the t-type.
When I get mine I'm going to try Rhys Verner's set up, bottom left pod to shift down, bottom right pod to shift up just like a car paddle shift. Either top button for dropper
Great video! (Was bout to buy XO t-type 😂) Thank you.
Great Drive Train Sir Doddy, Thank you for the update
Very welcome
“You can use the new t-type chain ring on the old eagle” … can someone clarify? What exactly do you mean by “chain ring” and “old eagle”? 12:24
Yes a deep dive in the cross compatibility would be nice!
New tech. Let’s gooooooooo!
Awesomeness. Only just bought Axs GX though.
This is probably a sponsor video, but it works with Shimano cassette very well also
Oh god... I wonder if one of these would mate to a cyclone kit or a cyc x1? That would be immense.
Thanks for posting great content
great to hear that, thanks for the great feedback! 👍
Changing under full load is sweet but the cassette and chain bills really suck
Looks great, of be tempted to keep my current AXS shifter, i know Hope are going to make a chainring as well so can keep my cranks just need chain, mech and cassette.
That's what I'm waiting for as well. I already have truvativ descendant carbon cranks. I'm sure the new GX cranks are fine but I can't see replacing my carbon for those.
I'm on old GX eagle AXS, it shifts fine even when I have over 1000 watts on the cranks I don't see the advantage here.
I use a mechanical 1x12 sram GX and I do not really see the point of the electronic gears. I have ridden bikes with electronic gears and I do not notice the shifting difference, a few milliseconds do not really matter if only a computer can notice them, I could not really see the benefit of it in racing or hobby riding. A well installed and maintained gear cable and mec shifts perceptively just as good and within similar precision. I really wish that Sram and Shimano will not fade out developing new mechanical group sets (for now I am not sure what they plans are). Not saying that I am opposing the technology but I wish they still made both mechanical and wireless so they can please both parties.
I have a feeling that soon this kind of debate will transform into one of those rim brake vs disk brake topics.
I never for a second considered wireless until today. I spent two hours routing a new shifter cable. Never again
I like the setup a lot, except the price.
Last month I wrecked my first (M8100) rear mech, a branch popped up into it and ripped it apart. (Cage broke, and the aluminium paralellogram also broke)
I replaced it with a M7100 mech, which I guess is somewhat comparable with normal GX?
It cost me €85 . What would replacing the cage and skid plates on this GX AXS cost? I can imagine it would cost me more.
No, the GX is more equivalent to the M8100 and the XX1 is equivalent to the M9100. X01 is in weird position where it doesn't really exist in Shimano land.
A cage with pulleys is like $30 for GX
@@rustler08 I reckon SLX sits just under GX then? Because comparing it with sx/nx doesn’t do it justice.
Do you need a special frame? Can't it be installed on old-style frames?
Thanks for this video guys! I believe you spoke quickly about backwards compatability, but I wanted to just check. Will the SRAM GX T-Type 'Transmission' run with an XX1 or XO1 AXS cassette (previous version cassette)? OR does it need to be a 'Transmission' cassette (XO or XX)?
When the setup guide says to shorten your chain to 116 and then you add the quick connect does that bring you to 117? or do you shorten to 115 and add the the quick connect to end up at 116?
thats a lot of money for a wear component like a casette....
Having not bought a new bike since 2015 Im really looking forward to experiencing this set up on my newly ordered Canyon Spectral CF9.0 EMTB, great video and made the new bike experience even more exciting,,,,,, cant wait :)
I'd like to see mechanical gears using transmission tech, I know it works well no doubt, but I just don't want it
i have a 2022 altitude carbon and i had to go with XO because that new battery placement for GX doesnt fit my frame
With my Canyon Lux Trail 2024 it says on the SRAM AXS Website: "This bike requires rear derailler setup in SAG postition"
What does that mean? Rear shock 25% or 100% compressed? And how to do it? Just compress the bike with a tension belt between wheels and saddle while doing the setup?
great tech , but the price is way too steep for me :/
GX used to be the affordable mid range stuff.
Hope this time they create an NX model or well will have to change brand.
Hi, I am about to make change wire to wireless and buy old version AXS GX is It worth to buy it or go straight for the T Type?
O jeez what a great price point
Nice video...as usual. Great to see you so excited about the GX Eagle AXS drivetrain...LOL. And please do tell me more about the new GX flat-top chain being compatible with the old GX drivetrain...
Does the DR slap around like the GX AXS? Or does the T-Type hangar sort this? I'm going on the complaints people had on chain slap, or rather the DR swinging around as there is no cable housing to keep it pushed up against the B stop.
What the heck is the setup tooth cog on the cassette? He sort of mentions it in passing and doesn't elaborate.
Durability? If the mech gets all smashed on a crash, bashes with a rock .... how durable? I've heard it's very tough. Is it?
I have some extremely high end new bikes and they do not have UDH the Specialed Epic being the only one. My Enduro and BMC two stroke are both standard. Honestly I’ve not ridden this yet but is this really a game changer? Mechanical XTR takes a ton of abuse and shifts instantly and my old Axs shifts great
But why the battery placement on higher level versions is old style? I think I'd prefer this one over the others, it just looks more thought out.
I'd like to know if there is a T-type chain ring that will fit the Quarc DUB zero power meter (which is already the 8-bolt pattern). I'd consider upgrading if I could keep the XX1 carbon cranks and power meter; certainly seems you could just mount the new T-type ring on the XX1 8-bolt crank, but the power meter is the issue.
Doddy it's so great to get your ride review of this great SRAM set up! I have a 55mm chain line but not UDH.....By frame is totally made from Carbon including the rear Triangle....do you guys know any Carbon frame shops who could modify my Rear Triable to accept UDH? Thanks Magoo. BTW....I use the same Pod to shift my SRAM XX1 Mech set up....I love it!
I wouldn’t recommend playing with the carbon to make it fit
@@thegrommechanic6265 Experienced Carbon Fabricators could do this easy....they just have to modify the Axle mount to make it work with a UDH fit-up....It's not rocket science!
@@Magoo71 I don't get it, even then the frame wouldn't match the profile of the hanger
@@thegrommechanic6265 You have NO Clue!
@@thegrommechanic6265 THERE IS NO HANGER Genius! It mounts to the same place the Axle does!
Cant wait eait to see one of these that isnt AXS
Does anyone know why he replaced the bottom bracket? Was the old one not compatible or did he just do it because why not, new groupset new BB?
Man, this is an unreasonably hard to find product from retailers because confusingly they all still list the old one if you just search for "gx eagle axs" for example. Also many retailers don't seem to show the bash guards on the chainring but I guess there's no variants here and they've just not installed them for the shots?
That's because you need to be searching for T-type or transmission.
Will this work on a 90s trek multitrack
Although it’s very nice. Looks like it handles like a well oiled sports car
I recently heard a guy on youtube remarking about how bicycles are being "car-ified". Electronics, 'black box" workings, etc. Just waiting for automatic transmissions with the drive trains. It all comes with even higher pricing.
hows the shifting vs a shimano MS setup? Thats the only real question. The pods are trivial as are the looks and crap. Shifting and especially shifting under load is the biggest deal.
Is it just me or is he using the axs pod ultimate controller when the gx comes with regular axs pod?
New pod looks easy to be hit by knee compare to old version? One of the reason I likes the wireless was that it didn’t stick out as much
maybe
it looks worse than what it really does its much closer to the bars
EXCELLENT!
Just got a new new stumpy with X01 axs. Would it be a down grade to go GX transmission?
please go away with your stupidity...
I can't candle it anymore!
Do you think i can install on a recumbent tricycle???
ok, next: gearbox🤪 but looks nice!
Hey, do you have any info on whether you can change just the derailleur (for the old gx axs) and use existing chain and sprockets? Are the rollers on the new one any different then on the old one? Thanks
1:50 what she said
#askgmbntech Doddy, I might be wrong but I noticed you extended the chainstay protector on your Spectral 125? I am thinking of buying the Spectral 125 CF8 and read a lot of comments online mentioning that the factory chainstay protector is kinda short. As a result the chain is chipping off the paint close to the chainring. I think i actually noticed it happening on Anna’s bike. Is that the case? If yes, what do you recommend as a solution? Thanks, Trian.
Great video doddy.
Would it be possible to fit to nukeproof reactor 2022
as long as it fits a universal deraieur hanger, which that bike does, it will be able to directly mount to the frame
@gmbntech At 12:19 you talk about the T Type chain could be retrofitted with the eagle system, if I do install transmission derailleur and chain what could be the problem on using my eagle cassette and chainring if the new chain can be used with both systems?
Can I use my Kmc e turbo chain and shimano cassette??
What is the difference between new GX and XX Eagle (behind weight and materials)?
I would only consider this if they came out with a mechanical version. I love the X01 mechanical setup
Can i get the upgrade kit alone that would work with my current setup? Levo sl 2021
How do you think, what difference are between old style x-sync sram FRONT chain rings and new T-type? Why should they be not cross-compatible? In old X-sync there also was labels everythere "only x-sync, only sram" - i managed to race XC races for two years with cheap AliExpress front chainrings with my Sram Eagle GX AXS, ~3000km. There were no single problem with it. I think in this case there are also no need to change an existing front chainrings... What do you think?
as long as it is a single chainring at the front it should be fine, but maybe ask a bikes shop
why did you change the bottom bracket cup?? cheers