The game that killed the Golden Era of Miami-Florida State
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2023
- On September 5, 2005, Miami and Florida State played a football game so bad that it killed the golden era of the best rivalry in college football, and helped send the Miami program into a tailspin that it still hasn't fully recovered from. Welcome to Worst Game Ever, Episode Four.
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The infamous 40-3 Peach Bowl loss to LSU is what kicked Miami out of the college football elite permanently - while for Florida State it was the next season's infamous 30-0 home loss to Wake Forest that effectively ended the Bowden era.
Geaux Tigahs
I was 9 and it was my first time watching FSU, actually understanding how the game works and such. They mentioned it had been years since we beat them and when we beat them, especially in the manner it happened, I remember jumping with glee. Nearly 20 years later, and this game still means a lot.
FUCK FSU
Miami fan but I very much remember Ernie Sims. Dude was HIGHLY touted going into both college and nfl. His career ended surprisingly quietly but 8 years in the NFL is still very impressive!
As an FSU fan those Jeff Bowden 2000 teams on offense were brutal. I remember this game and how horrible it was but we were so desperate for a win I took it. And there was a lot of laughs Miami lost on a failed FG. Also I remember that Miami LSU game and agree it was the end. Not only did they lose the fight on the field but lost the fight in the tunnel after the game. One suggestion if you want a truly brutally bad rivaly game. The 2011 FSU\UF game. The offenses in this FSU\Miami game look like amazing to what happened that night in an FSU win.
Games like this is why 45-3 was so beautiful
52-10 was even better
@@jaimealvarezmd7245 good thing Miami got rid of the coach that pulled that off in the COVID year
@@MorganInForm oh so now you're blaming covid. Lmao. Typical. I thought you'd blame Chris rix
@@jaimealvarezmd7245 No just blaming Miami for firing Diaz, maybe they'll rehire him after next season
@@MorganInForm good one
This is why espn went with the sec as their cashcow moving forward. after this season all you heard was sec this sec that
Damn you so right😀
Miami and Florida State were the SEC before the SEC became the “SEC”. The SEC in the early 2000s was somewhat down. Spurrior left Florida, Alabama was dealing with major recruiting violations, Georgia was somewhat down after the Jim Donnan years
@@brandonconforto315 So going 13-1 was a down year for Georgia in 2002 in Richts 2nd year?
@@BAYAREA-kd1ig i thought he took over in 2000 so my bad but my other point still stands. As soon as it picked up for Georgia then Florida had its down years before Meyer took over so they basically traded spots in the east
Great recap! I’m a Miami fan and there was so much hype going into this game. Awful execution in every aspect of the game. 2005 was the beginning of the end for Miami.
Bruh I’ve been an FSU fan my entire life. Went to fsu from 97-2001 & got to watch these programs trade blows at their peak. One thing I gotta give Miami props for- Warren Sapp & Ray Lewis. They’ve had PLENTY of other elite dudes buuuuut I distinctly remember watching those 2 guys & being like “fuuuuuck me…how can ANYONE stop them”
Dudes were HIM
FUCK FSU
That's awesome. I have about 7 to 8 years on you. I did my first two years at GCCC in Panama City and transferred to Tallahassee in the the Fall of 1993. What a glorious time to be a Florida State Seminole!
Warren Sapp was the fastest Big Man I've ever seen! I cringed when the Noles lost to that team in '94.
@@adangbeThat was the same year as the Greatest Cpmeback in Football history. Or was it the greatest Choke?
I really miss the days when Miami, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Pitt, etc. where in the Big East as opposed to the ACC.
This game was not so much a defensive battle, but one where the offenses and special teams were so inept that they made the defenses look good. Both these programs were on the slide at this point, with nowhere near the talent from the previous decade, and it showed. Virginia Tech was becoming the best team in the conference.
Good video!! Keep em comin
I'll never forget this game! It was awful on offense. The great Miami muff! Go Noles!! Great video man!
FUCK THE GODDAMN NOLES GO GATORS
Your take is spot on
8:24 A Miami player having major in CRIMINOLOGY is the funniest shit I’ve seen in awhile.
The biggest issue this game was the QBs. White and Weatherford have to be two of the most unremarkable QBs in the history of both programs.
There was plenty of defensive talent on both sides but it shouldn’t have been a slugfest.
Agreed, especially with FSU. As bad as the playcalling and gameplanning from Jeff Bowden might've been, I can at least understand why he didn't open things up. There was no way he could trust Weatherford or Xavier Lee coming off the bench.
I was watching this clip and when I saw that call on the sideline fumble recovery-I watched this game on TV back in the day. It was in 2005, in my defense
Can we a Dan Morgan or Nate Webster career highlight tape?
I remember the game well. I saw the title. I thought “10-7. Can’t be anything but that ga…yup.”
You could not be more right.
“I’m gonna need you to buckle the fuck up.” 💀
I honestly think the fall of The U began in '02. Coker's teams just about always came out sleep walking; '02 Fiesta Bowl, '03 Florida, West Virginia and Virginia Tech.
I don't know about that. Miami went 12-1 in 2002, had two Heisman candidates, and were the best team in the country only losing when screwed by a ref in overtime. I'd say '05 is better indicator of their fall. '02 was a great team, and 03/04 were still pretty damn good.
Peter Warrick was the best number 9 at FSU but Xavier Lee was the worst 😂
FSU fan and I agree with this. I remember something different about this game. I felt in the play calling and offensive play. For years I saw the defense carry the offense during the Rix era but then I saw difference between them.
Sims is the LB coach at UCF now
Great video. The Lost Decade for FSU. Hated Jeff Bowden so much.
Not sure if it’s intentional. But the ABC scorebug didn’t have rankings by the teams in the 1st half. Then they put 9 & 14 by their team names, almost like “yeah we have no idea how with how this game’s going, but this is a top 15 matchup believe it or not”
This rivalry was must watch when I was growing up.
13:08 Bret Favre's Nemesis
Excellent recap - ya know your stuff. One exception to “worst game” is that in this contest FSU was on a bad losing streak to Miami and they finally got the monkey off their back - so for an FSU fan wasn’t the worst - but yea, for a CFB fan I 100% agree it was a snooze fest lol
Agreed. Outside of the 2009 season opener, the 2003 rain game was probably the last best in the series. 2003 matchup was the last game that still had that "Rivalry Mystique."
@@adangbe Agreed. The years 2003 and before they played the games during the day and it felt more exciting, more rivalry-esque. It lost that "mystique" when they moved the game to the primetime slot on Labor Day. That was never a tradition of this rivalry.
“Unless Chris Webber shows up” 😂
Great video. I'm actually a fan of both teams and I forgot how bad that game was. Both teams had some talent but not experience and went on to play much better the rest of the season.
As for Miami, not only did they lose to LSU in the Peach Bowl, but they started a fight in the tunnel (some genius had both teams sharing the same tunnel to get to their lockerrooms) and also lost the fight!
As for Mussberger's perviness, the girl he ogled is Jenn Sterger who went on to become semi famous as well as infamous for an incident involving Brett Favre when she was the Jets sideline reporter.
As far as this game being the impetus for the demise of both programs, well it depends what you mean. This game didn't cause that. But it probably coincided with it. Miami has not gotten back to the same level since, for a variety of reasons, including the rising of UF and then the resurgence of FSU. FSU did win a Natty in 2013, and played for one in 2014. FSU won 10 games last year and is the favorite to win the ACC. FSU has a legit Heisman candidate and is a darkhorse for the natty. FSU still has the most ACC championships, and Miami has none.
One criticism - Gary Danielson didn't just have a random shout out. He was alluding to Michigan's Chris Webber who famously called a timeout that didn't exist to lose the 1993 basketball national championship to Duke. I'll give you a pass because you were so young.
*North Carolina. The Chris Webber timeout was against North Carolina. The story is mythical. Michigan was losing when Webber called that timeout
2005 was a great game. FSU had a winning season in 2017. FSU and Miami(FL) were both ranked in the Top 10 in 2013, too. Your research is garbage.
You must be a Miami(FL) fan if you think this game was the worst.
Congratulations on that 7-6 season in 2017
@@ColtonDenning It's really telling how much these videos are worth when you can't even get the basics right. I mean you didn't even have to mention it in the video, but you did and you got it wrong.
The 97% thumbs up rate on the video is probably a bit more telling on what they're worth :). Also, I mention at 25:21 that they were both ranked in 2013, but thank you for watching and taking time out of your Sunday to be a fan of the channel.
@@ColtonDenning People like all sorts of junk, factual or not, often because they don't know any better. Do you know how many RUclips movie critics get basic details wrong? Likes don't mean it's good. It doesn't make your videos any less wrong.
You didn't mention that they were ranked *in the Top 10.* You said the series died out because they weren't competing for national championships with the win when that was just wasn't the case in 2013. You could make the same argument that the "golden era" of the series died in any of the games 2001-2004, too. Both FSU and Miami(FL) fell off before 2005.
Didn't say the series died out. I said the golden era of it did, and it took 8 years between this game and 2013 for another Miami-FSU game to matter nationally, and they haven't played in another one since, so yeah - I'm comfortable with the argument I made. But again, thank you for watching and then engaging repeatedly in something you don't like. That's a W I'll gladly take.
When life was good
I ain’t know it paid my tuition bill 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That era and those FSU UM games were based on name alone both schools were bad teams and watching them was a choir. Go Noles !
Love the nostalgia. I had just turned 21 y/o and became a father this same wk (9.6.05). Now my son is a college baseball player. Where’d the time go???
First thing I think of is the Jen Sterger getting noticed by Brent Musberger moment when I recall watching this live (shout out to Mississippi welfare bandit, Brett MAGA Favre 💩).
Wasn’t quite the 90’s FSU/Miami games we’d become accustomed to.
Give Miami some slack they were 24-0 in the previous 2 seasons before this My Buckeyes beat them in the championship and they have not been the same til this day
You stole one from us by buying the ref and the ncaa😅
Bobby continued to stack the team, but he also continued to miss on QB after Qb
Saw the title and immediately thought the 05 game 😂
Man. FSU had some HIGHLY recruited backs. I remember being little trying to find Lorenzo Booker highlights on AOL. Leon Washington and Antone smith were absolute studies and not utilized correctly. And horrible QB play.
This game was horrible, it took so much out of us fans. We were supposed to score some points.
I'm not going to lie. I remember watching this game thinking this didn't live up to the hype. And I like defensive football 😂.
The 2004 game was unbearable to watch as a FSU fan. The defense was gassed in the overtime. However, no one game, especially in 2005 was the reason the rivalry is no longer nationally relevant. That is for both teams to create.
This shit was free I thought I was winning already
I don’t think this was the fall of the series. I think this was the fall of Miami, and the rise of the dominance of FSU in this series. Also this started Miami being the meme of a football team they are 😂
This is when Miami started going downhill.
Larry Coker has to be the worst coach in NCAA history to win the national championship
14:59 what the actuall hell was 95 doing?
fsu defense was still nasty
Worst Game Ever: 2008 Sun Bowl
Whatever happened to Kyle White I never heard from him again since I wish he could come back to speak Miami football with us I don’t care if people considered him bad qb! Because once you put that U on you with us forever. It’s a community thing with us.
They shouldn’t of Been playing on opening for the third time they was trying to force it much
Most 1st games are sloppy.
You’re an Ohio State fan right?
Indeed
The game that started the downfall of Miami.
Painful
There nothing wrong with rivalry, u tripping
The end of the programs?? Get real, jealous guy trying to throw shade because his team will never be at the top level, much less as long as FSU and the canes were.
1) I root for Ohio State, so this is a hilarious comment. 2) Thanks for watching. DANCE FOR ME, PUPPET!
Larry Coker killed Miami more than anyone else-Coker inherited a roster full of future All Stars and NfL Pros from Butch Davis. By 2005 Coker had long since ran out of Butch's players anymore important the assistant coaches. The next season 2006 the wheels came off and except for a spark here and there the dynasty was done. Today all hope lies with Mario Cristobal.
@@willmuny9201Hopefully Alabama will be there soon
Ahh The Jacoby Harris days lol
Every time we match up it's going to be live 🙌🏾 this year when we meet will be special
Game still had dogs though.
After listening for 5 minutes it’s painfully obvious that you want FSU and Miami to never be good again because, and you’ll deny this but you know it’s true, the only way Ohio State can beat the SEC or a stacked Florida school with any kind of consistency, is to swipe tons of players from the Gulf Coast states especially Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties. If you don’t carpet gat WR’s, DB’s, and elite edge rushers you can’t win.
With NIL up and running Texas is closing its doors to you. Georgia and LSU lock down the Gulf Coasts top talent. If Miami gets good again, financial backing appears to finally be in place or at least close to it, you won’t be able to swipe half a 4-6 players a year from South Florida and their goes any chance of anything more than a Big Ten title.
Brother, I don't give a shit about any of this. Thanks for watching!
@@ColtonDenning FYI…..Kyle Wright had elite physical tools, elite arm talent, he just ended up in a declining program primarily because Larry Coker was from the start over his head.
Miami started to decline when the administration let the players choose Coker as the next coach when Butch Davis left.
@@ColtonDenning
1. You say you’re an Ohio State fan
2. OSU has to recruit the south to get the perimeter talent, even pass rushers, needed to compete.
3. But you say “I don’t care about any of this”.
You’re lying.
35-33 now w coming
Lol
Let’s go Miami hurricanes
That embarrassing Peach Bowl performance by the stains. scUM hasn't recovered from that game and was 18 years ago.
Miami had no class. Its players were thugs.
Both sucked then. Both suck now. FSU is entirely overrated.
Holy fuck, I was at this game it was actually incredible for my 14 year old self then