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thank you sir for the video i think you the only one reviewing this in depth. and you just saved my $$$. i was thinking buy this for micro crawler.
Very useful content; thanks for taking the time to do this! Seems like the budget transmitter/receiver combo to have!
To use the voltage feedback on the DumboRC X6FP 6ch receiver, I made a cable using an extension balancing cable that I cut in half and then used only the full voltage pins output and went to B+B- input of the receiver. I had a three pin connector that I made into a two pin connector and only used the black and red wires and soldered those on to the extension cable. Now when I plug in a new battery, I simply plug in both the battery to my ESC and I also plug in the modified balancing cable to the battery also. I suspect the reason you have to have a separate B+B- cable is because the receiver gets a stepped down voltage from the ESC as in a BEC circuit, and this is not the full voltage of the battery being monitored. Bottom line, is a manual would definitely help. It seems we all have to figure this stuff out.
Thanks so much. The video is very long and I will watch in different times to finish it. But finally a very professional video like you are usually to do that clear such many receivers for Dumbo's tx that are almost impossible to understand from Ali or whatever elsewhere because there is not any official Dumbo support. Thanks so much.
Check the short video or jump to "Final thoughts" - this should be enough to know what to buy ;-)
@@donaldsneffe your videos are too much professional and teaching that I don't want shortcut.
Good info on all the reciever's functions. I look forward to one on the new 10channel combos
The slight light dimming is normal if leds are connected to the servo channels. That will happen with any other receiver as well. Regarding the trainer function: The pictures of the wireless coach module for the remote show also a 3pin connector with a signal labeled pwm. So it's likely that this works similar to the flysky wireless trainer. You can bind a dumborc to a X6FP receiver which is connected to the dumborc wireless coach module which is plugged into another dumborc controlled by a trainer that then binds to another receiver in the rc model. Then the trainer can overrule the signals from the student if needed. And yes, the lack of manuals is weird.
Thanks for the explanation of the trainer mode!
I may grab this so I'll feel more comfortable letting someone new to RC drive my rigs. Especially since I now have 3 DumboRC transmitters, the X6, X4, & the Rlaarlo X4 Variant...
I wonder if the (P) reciever's battery level function will work with the Rlaarlo AM-X12 transmitter....
To control the led lights turn twice for headlights, three times for the hazard lights and four times for the flashing light.
Hi Donald. Just a thought. The chart in your new transmitter video says the X6FP controls lights for "any" channel, not "all" channels. I suspect that the two pin LED controller that you found is the only light controller. The default channel is probably channel 3. You can probably change that to another channel on the transmitter. But without documentation, we may never figure out how. I am most disappointed with the battery feedback lights. I would have thought that feature would work with the 3-in-1 since it is already connected to the battery. You might notice on the transmitter box that there are two new 3-in-1's not out yet, the QD10 and the X10F. I am hoping that they might include the battery feedback function. (I am a trail runner, not a rock crawler. So I love the 3-in-1, as I do not need the modulation that it is lacking...)
This is true. Maybe "any" means only one... Good manuals would be the most important thing for those Dumbo receivers. The new manual for the radio is ok, but for receivers still missing....
Thanks a lot, I finally understood how the light function of my receiver works !
Dumbo RC radios are great, but their manual really sucks
If you still haven’t been able to operate the ‘Flash’ light function on the X6DC(G)? I found turning the wheel 4 times will turn the flash or “ambient” lights on & off. 👍 your coverage of all these receivers is unmatched. Very well done & easy to follow. Thank you so much.
Thank you!
Hi well put together video you make it look easy thank you👍
Thanks for the detailed video!
They Must Be Changing The X6DC Functionality. I Can't Get The Gyro To Reverse On It. UPDATE: Neither Are The Light Control Settings The Same. It Doesn't Cycle Through The Light Modes. It's Stuck In DRL On When Forward Movement
Sorry to hear, but donno how to help.
@@donaldsneffe After A Few Aneurysms I've Determined The Buttons Are Switched On The Newer Versions. The Gyro Button Is The Light Button And The Light Button Is The Gyro. "Gyro Button Is Closest To Antenna Lead" It's 3 Clicks On Gyro To Turn On And 1 Click To Reverse Direction. I Haven't Messed With Lights But It Seems Like It's The Same. Also The DRL Doesn't Not Flash When Turning On Or Off When Using Channel 4 On The Dumbo 350
Thank you
I've used these before. For a hobby grade build on xmods. But this time I can't get the transmitter to bind to the esc.
Hello, a very good and comprehensive review. I would like to power the receiver with 3s Li-Ion. When the battery pack is full, the final charging voltage is 12.6 volts. But the receiver says up to 10 volts. Do you also have experience with the DumboRC receiver with 3s?
Hi, thank you.
No, and I wouldn't try. I do not know any receiver that runs on 3s.
But: I did not try.
Teacher ^^
I would sincerely appreciate it if you could tell me how to set the Dumbo transceiver fail-safe in case it occurs with no contact.
One short press on the right tiny button is "runaway protection", what should be failsafe.
Guys I have a couple of X4FM (G) micro receivers and would like to hook them up to standard size servos in my RC cars. Would I need a male 3-pin JST ZH 1.5mm to female JR connector cable to do this? If so does anyone have a link to Amazon or Alixpress or similar to buy them?
Just bought trasmitter and bl3fg receiver and i was looking for buzzer function. Now at least i know that is not an horn output. 😂
Hi Donald! Which would you recommend for scx24? I'm struggling to find esc with good low speed control.
Brushed? Modellbau-Regler.de ASX24 or Klemm Floh
Hello, I'm trying to get some help.
I bought a dumbo X6F with lights; it doesn't seem to have a blue LED, and the only lights that work are the indicators. I can also turn the gyro on and off, and that's it.
Can you help me please
Can someone shed some light on this?
What blue LED do you mean? Did the receiver come with a LED set?
@@donaldsneffe yes The receiver came with a led set but when i power everything on, my receiver insted of flashing a blue led it just flashes red and green i mean the led ínside the receiver
@@iroshimal Press the buttons?
Hello, I have a problem pairing the devices correctly, X6DCG. I do it according to the instructions, i.e. I press the "bind" button for 3 seconds. after turning on ESC, my receiver pairs with the transmitter and the lower LED lights up green, while the upper one remains red. consequently, I cannot change any receiver settings, e.g. when I press the bind button 3 times, the lower LED flashes red 3 times and remains green, and the gyroscope does not turn on. the mode key button control also does not work and the upper LED remains red. If I try to activate any command, it blinks green and remains red. please help.
What is the upper LED, the LED for the light functions?
Why wouldn't you be able to change any settings, the front button is to change settings (gyro).
Not really sure what the problem ist, I would not know how to help - only advice "press buttons", what you probably already did many times. short press, long press, 1x, 2x, 3x, 4x...
Sorry, but how should I help? I show in this video how it works for me in my receiver, maybe your receiver is defect, maybe your "pressing" is wrong (numbers, long/short).
Keep pressing - and good luck!
@@donaldsneffe The problem is that my LED from the light panel is always red, if I try to change some Mod, it flashes green once, then it is red again, yours has been constantly glowing blue since pairing. However, when it comes to the LED from the gyroscope, it is constantly on. green, if I try to change the operation by pressing the button, for example three times, my LED will flash red once and then be green again and the gyroscope function does not turn on.
@@tommm5946 Really no glue how I could help. You are sure you have the (G) version?
Hi sir, what is the exact connector compatibl for the micro receiver (X4FM)? Is there available adapter from stantard servo to this? Chose it by mistake because I really like the small size but forgot abaout the connection.
JST ZH 3-Pin (1.5 mm micro connector on Ebay or Ali)
They Must Be Changing The X6DC Functionality. I Can't Get The Gyro To Reverse On It.
I followed this video 2 times prior. Both times the binding process worked. But this time I'm getting nothing. So you have any ideas yo what it could be?
No, no idea. Simply try again and again, switch off, on... sometimes binding needs many tries. Annoying...
Moin Donald (Dagoberts Neffe)... Vielen Dank für das klasse Video...ich denke, ich habe da einen süddeutschen Akzent im Englischen entdeckt.😂
Ich bin ganz frisch infiziert mit dem RC Virus.
Ich habe mir den X4M(G) nebst Fernbedienung zu meinem SCX24 Deadbolt bestellt...und ein Furitek brushless Starter Set.
Ich habe verstanden, dass die Belegung der Stecker anders ist und das sorglose Verbinden zu einem langen Gesicht führt.
Aber ich hab ab dem Zeitpunkt, wo Du von Protokollen gesprochen hast nichts mehr mitbekommen.
Sind das andere Steckverbindungen in der X4M(G) als in der original ESC hon Axial??? Gibt es Adapter oder Stecker zum Umbauen???? Ich bin echt verunsichert, will ich doch nichts zerstören.....über eine Antwort würde ich mich sehr freuen. Mach weiter so. Deine Videos sind gut strukturiert und enthalten wertvolle Tipps, die ich in keinem anderen Video gefunden habe. ...
Donaldsneffe(n) sind Dagoberts Großneffen, nicht Neffen - also wenn schon, dann Tick, Trick oder Track auf Deutsch ;-)
SCX24 haben "normale" Servostecker (Dupont).
Ich nehme mal an, dass du vom Stecker bzw. die Verbindung des Furitek Lizard Pro ESCs aus dem Starter-Set zum Empfänger sprichst, also dem "Servokabel". Der Lizard Pro kommt mit einem Kabel das in den ESC gesteckt wird, mit einem kleinen weißen Stecker, das ist ein JST ZH 1.5 mm 3-Pin Stecker (1.5 mm 3-pin micro connector). Und das Kabel hat am anderen Ende einen "normalen Servostecker" (der in die SCX Elektronik passt).
Genau so einen JST ZH 1.5 mm 3-Pin brauchst du auch auf der anderen Seite, der X4M hat die passenden Buchsen.
Du brauchst also ein Kabel, das auf beiden Seiten einen JST ZH 3-Pin hat.
Und um ein "normales Servo" (SCX24 Servostecker) an den X4M stecken zu können, musst du den Stecker entweder gegen einen JST ZH austauschen, oder eben einen Adapter "normaler Servostecker" (Dupont Stecker) auf JST ZH 3-Pin verwenden.
Die meisten Empfänger und auch ESCs, die mit diesen kleinen Steckern kommen, haben normalerweise auch Kabel dabei und tw. sogar Adapter (Flysky Micro-Empfänger, Surpass ESCs), ich weiß ehrlich nimmer, ob der Dumbo Empfänger auch mit Kabeln oder Adaptern kommt.
Das Problem, und der wirklich "gefährliche Punkt" bei diesem an sich genialen kleinen Steckern bzw. Systemen ist, dass das auch in Flybarless Systemen für Microhelis verwendet wird (MicroBrain, Vortex, Microspirit, etc.) und da auch die Servos direkt eingesteckt werden und diese verwenden eine ANDERE PIN BELEGUNG.
Normal ist immer "Plus Mitte, Signal und Minus außen", die Heli-Systeme haben aber Plus außen und Minus Mitte. Falls du jetzt solch einen Adapter oder ein Servo (für Helis) einsteckst, mit falscher Polung, zerstörst du (wahrscheinlich) ESC und/oder Empfänger (wenn der Adapter allerdings die Polung nicht umkehrt, was er aber normal macht, wäre es wieder egal - dann leitet Rot halt nicht Plus, sondern Minus - der Leitung ist die Farbe ja egal).
Deshalb musst du immer drauf achten, dass Plus UNBEDINGT in der Mitte ist, wenn du Adapter kaufst. Es ist auch überhaupt kein Problem, die Kabel rauszuziehen und in der richtigen Reihenfolge wieder in das Gehäuse zu stecken (weder bei normalen Servosteckern noch bei den Microsteckern). Auf das musst du aufpassen, unbedingt. Falls außen schwarz/Minus und weiß/gelb/orange Signal vertauscht sein sollten, wäre das nicht so schlimm, funktioniert zwar nicht, aber wird nix kaputt.
Zumindest meine Furitek Lizard Pros kommen übrigens, sehr "genial", mit zwei schwarzen und einem farbigen (Signal) Kabel. Das macht die Sache noch verwirrender. Das heißt, beim Furitek-Kabel ist rot/Plus auch schwarz. Das ist aber "Mitte", passt also.
Am besten nimmst du dir den Furitek Stecker, stellst dir vor, dass Mitte Rot ist und schaust, dass der Stecker auf der anderen Seite, der in den X4M kommt, genau so belegt ist. Das wichtigste: Rot/Plus muss bei (den Autos) IMMER in der Mitte sein.
Die JST ZH 1.5 mm, die für Autos oder Auto-Systeme kommen (Mini-Z, Flysky, Hobbywing, Surpass/Rocket, DumboRC, etc.) haben die Belegung alle gleich und "wie üblich".
Wenn man irgendwelche Adapter kauft oder auch Micro-Servos für Helis (!!! - so hab ich leider in einem unachtsamem Moment mal ein 40 € Microheli-Servo einfach in so einen kleinen Auto-Empfänger von Flysky gesteckt, Servo kaputt) heißt es aufpassen.
Du musst also nach Steckern JST ZH 1.5 mm suchen, oder Adaptern. Das Crimpen dieser Stecker geht aber mit "normalen" Crimpzangen nimmer, dafür habe ich eine eigene Crimpzange.
Kannst auch die Kabel mit Steckern kaufen - einfach schauen, ob die Polarität passt, sonst Stecker rausziehen und richtig einstecken.
Such nach "1.5 mm 3-Pin micro plug". Korrekte Bezeichnung JST ZH 1.5 mm (3-Pin). Aber Achtung, manche Händler verkaufen die unter "falschem" Namen, die verwechseln das. 1.5 mm Abstand ist das entscheidende Kriterium, JST GH haben nur 1.25 mm (das sind die, die in den kleinen FMS Trucks kommen).
Schau, dass du welche mit Silikonkabel bekommst, wenn möglich. Die ganzen billigen verkabelten Sets kommen mit sehr steifen und schlecht lötbaren (schmelzen) PVC Kabeln. Gehen natürlich auch, aber Silikonkabel sind schon sehr viel "besser".
Do you know if you can use the buttons on the transmitter to turn lights on/off on the X6FG?
No, you cannot. The X6F(G) does not have a lightcontroller built in. You need to connect a seperate lightcontroller.
Hallo Walter,
kann man denn an den X10FG wirklich nur ein einziges LED-Pärchen anschließen ?
Das ist gelinde gesagt, etwas wenig, oder ?
Das reicht ja noch nicht mal für Frontlicht und Rücklicht 🧐
Auf zusätzliche Switches habe ich keine Lust. Außerdem brauche ich die anderen Steckplätze/Kanäle alle.
Könnte ich nicht mit 3 Y-Kabeln insgesamt 8 LEDs anschließen (4x vorne (weiß) und 4x hinten (rot) und die dann ein- und ausschalten ?
Das würde mir reichen.
Oder ist dann der eine Steckplatz am Empfänger überlastet ?
Ich kenne mich mit Strom leider überhaupt nicht aus, deswegen frage ich das…
Du kannst sicher auch mehrere Paare anschließen, allerdings musst du mit den verschiedenen Farben verschiedene Widerstände anlöten.
Wie viel wirklich geht pro Ausgang weiß ich nicht, aber das sollte kein Problem sein bei 20 mA/LED, wenn du "normale" Leds nimmst.
Probier es einfach, kaputt machen kannst nicht wirklich was, addiere halt immer ein weiteres Paar und schau was passiert.
Ich habe da 10 St. weiße 3mm-LEDs angeklemmt, jede mit 100 Ohm Widerstand. Läuft seit Tagen einwandfrei.
what "best" ESC do you use with BL3F i could not understand it, I want to buy some of these
Those good (German) ESCs are those from Modellbau-Regler.de and in this video a Klemm Floh - www.amazon.de/KLEMM-Floh-Brushed-ESC-BEC/dp/B0B8D6GTS6/ref=sr_1_5?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=1NDTV97PDW6R8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pRrKpY6Fyno9XS2_ieaVZa8qgQSxXYKt9RpqpruvoOurjfrDL2TU71aV2OTn_mm70SofOONuczZfy4CK-he3UvSmejvBo9NaSzUSXFpPLD0ldhjERgrSrjIuWiVTXDLQzv9j20q09eWqew6BfuQ1YE6LUIQGqdeFV-zDTCBFCKxstKXQGbD2Ss1dPjmwpGho4fA39S2cSxsILAwFd-fFVDQvu6Wwn0uaJZTVeSSF22Fn-OTv-t6DVDe-MYB_KuCp-2pBZblSFEX3isFgMlp6kKNHHGys_tgGYFe1Eod8Jhg.O2aWknWYbHet44m31mjWjbG_VuJsoLl2ESvGNYjxmTs&dib_tag=se&keywords=klemm+floh&qid=1714558412&sprefix=klemm+floh%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-5
How would any of these work for a brushed crawler? I'm using a Traxxas TRX-4M 1/18 scale, but I am looking for a smaller transmitter, and this looks pretty ideal.
Yes, but then you will also need a new ESC.
@@donaldsneffe what about with the 3 in 1? Isn't the esc built in?
@@PatPatterson-cl3rj Yes, it is. But poor low speed performance, see video.
Two questions.
1. As long as i use the proper connectors, is there any concern using the X4FM with a 1/18th micro crawler with a Furitek brushless system, power wise?
2. With the TX, do you know if that usb c port will charge rechargeable double A's?
1: No problem, no concern, will work flawlessly
2: No, will not charge batteries, is for updates or powering.
The steering wants to move on its own when I pick up the car without touching the remote control
will the mini x4fm be uesd with hobby wing quikrun 1060 esc out of the box?
also are the mini recievers good also for 1/10 scale of road buggies? i am curretly using the "older" x6f on my buggies but would rather save space...
Yes of course those will work - but you have to change plugs (ESC, Servo) or have to use adapters.
is the dumborc x6f2 receiver compatible w/ dumborc x6fg transmitter?
x6f 2.4 sry
Yes, all Dumbo receivers are compatibel with all Dumbo radios
Thank you for the video , I am looking to create a nice scale crawler , with lights so would like a good system with led controller like you shoed hear . Do you know of any thing that is small like this and works with out these bugs ? Also does this remote have a 3 position switch ?
No, unfortunately no real 3-pos-switch. You could use CH-5 knob, or the combination of the ch 3 and 4 buttons (for winch).
I love the LaneboysRC lightcontroller - it is super small and unbelievable functions. But this is only for very advanced builders (many small soldering jobs needed, programming via computer software). www.youtube.com/@laneboysrc
You will have to contact Werner (from Laneboys), he is living in Singapore (and he is Austrian, as I am), then he will help you and send a controller in configurations you want, about 20 - 30 bucks... if you speak German, there is a super long and detaled thread in the German forum about this controller: www.rockcrawler.de/thread/40099-der-lightcontroller-von-laneboysrc-einfach-genial/
Du hast nicht zufällig die neue Dumborc DDF 350 Funke und einen X10f Empfänger, oder? Versuche schon seit Tagen meine leuchten und winden ans laufen zu kriegen.... Imfos sind da recht dürftig...
Hab eine gekauft, schon vor Längerem, ist aber noch nicht da, inzwischen aber versandt. Werd ein Video machen....
@@donaldsneffe Das wäre super. Meine ist letzte Woche angekommen, seitdem tüftele ich. Ich hab zwar Videos gefunden wo gezeigt wird dass es geht, aber leider nicht wie... Und der Kundenservice von Dumborc beantwortet, aufgrund der Zeitverschiebung, nur eine Mail am Tag!
So i have to buy a separate connector for the voltage return to work ?
... it is easy to make.
Posso conectar o receiver em qualquer outro controle?
Nao, so DumboRC
@@donaldsneffe Ok, obrigado pela atenção.
How to disconnect?
Bind to a different radio
hi! bro
dumborc rx binding radiolink tx ?
No, and not vice versa, either.