Rob Staton & Jeff Simmons debate the current state of the #Seahawks during a three game losing streak -- plus we'll discuss today's trade for Roy Robertson-Harris
Jake bobo still plays like his roster spot is on the line dk does not his fumbling problem has become too much and that’s just the start of his problems
Hi Rob. I missed the live stream but I am interested in your thoughts on this question. 'IF' we went all in on beefing up the O Line in the next draft and free agency what are your thoughts on going with a calibre QB like Howell until we find the next gem and see where we go? Appreciate he may not be the answer but he'd have more protection, run game would be stronger and Howell would still have some weapons to use. Just a thought of going cheap QB and using money in the lines. From a man of my limited knowledge it seems to be quickest way around changing the type of team we are??
I would do anything that would build towards the benefit of a championship caliber team. If that means saving money on certain players, so be it. You’re either on the path to glory or you aren’t and I’m not sure they currently are
@@darrellchapman2367 If he was performing anywhere close to his potential, I'd agree with you. But he's not and he hasn't been. Folks need to stop viewing DK through the lens of potential and start viewing him for what he is. He's a WR2 who thinks he's a WR1, and that's a problem.
@@darrellchapman2367 It’s trading DK or paying him $35m+. Between the two right now, paying him that kind of money when your QB isn’t elite and isn’t on a rookie contract seems like the horrible idea
@@ColorsFadeGaming Dk is 4th in the nfl in receiving yards. If you was to send Dk some where else for like 1st round pick it would have a bigger impact than just losing the production. Teams treat Dk like a number 1. They double and triple team him all the time and that alone has value because it can open up your offense for other receivers. Dk is having his best season so far. Trading him for a pick that isn’t guaranteed to lead to a good player just isn’t a good idea.
@@spencerpelfrey3803 We already restructured Dk’s deal. He is more than likely gonna get extended regardless. If you get rid of Dk and get a pick who isn’t guaranteed to even be half of Dk metcalf its not a good idea. You don’t get rid of good players.
@@darrellchapman2367but fans like Jeff Simmons think he "doesn't take over games," looking forward to trading DK and watching the offense with all other recievers catching sub 10yards a play....
Trading all your good players for draft picks don’t always lead to success. All it does is leave you in a perpetual state of ass. The jags had so many top 5 draft picks this century and have tanked multiple times and they are still terrible.
To me, Dre'mont Jones has been mailing it in since last season. Jeff said he blew up Trent Williams.. I missed that but did see Kittle easily wash him out. Idk, maybe it's confirmation bias, but I keep noticing him for the wrong reasons.
This is an excellent analysis! Nice job guys. Schneider needs to fix his approach immediately or get out of the way. McDonald shouldn't have to wait 1-2 years to get a real chance to build this team the right way.
It's pretty simple, we don't have any "Champions". We don't have anybody who can go out and dominate a game. People like DK, Spoon, they extremely talented, but that isn't translating into winning games. I think actually the only person on offense who fits that bill might be K9. On defense there is more potential with Mafe, Hall, Murphy, Spoon, Riq and Love to some extent, but so far none of them have elevated to that level. To win championships, you need champions. We might need a new GM, John hasn't found a blue-chipper in about 10 years imo. Also, regardless of how talented Geno is or isn't, I am done with him. He's a terrible leader, he inspires no confidence and can't beat our #1 rival. If this was college, it would be equivalent to the Ohio State/Michigan or Alabama/GA rivalries where you have two teams that are great all year, but coaches get fired if you can't win that game ever. That's Geno, he can't lead and win games that actually matter. Not the Lions early season, but playoff games our division rivals. I am fine with him as a bridge, but I don't want to build around him.
Dk has had many dominant games since he was a Seahawk. Last season he had 134 and 3 touchdowns against a good cowboys defense. His rookie year in the playoffs he had a dominant showing with 7 catches and 160 yards and a TD. Spoon had a game last year against the cardinals where he was physical and laying dudes out and had a pick that was called back due to penalty. We have legitimately good players and some of them are blue chip. Where john has struggled most is the oline. I can’t disagree about your take on Geno tho
The worst place for any professional sports franchise to be is mediocre. It’s the hardest place to win from. I agree that we need a quarterback of the future and we need to build this team for MM. I think the real question is, when trying to figure out what to do with the franchise is what does Jodi think? If she wants to keep the club, as is portrayed in the local media, does the idea of tearing down the team align with her wishes. Or does she need the team to stay in the current lane until she has future control. I think only John and MM know for sure.
As much as our Defense sucks I am confident about it. But offense not so much. The scheme, the OL, the diva receivers, the shot tempered QB is really concerning.
I agree with you guys that the main issue is the construction of this roster. Schneider has dropped the ball in constructing the trenches. He hasn’t been serious about building a stud Oline since SB 49. As far as the Dline, his moves have been head scratching too
We also don’t draft well in the 1st. Last few years have been ok but elite teams have identity. Without identity you become the Steelers being ok with 500 seasons
You would think that if you want to build a championship football team, you would start on the offensive line first before signing all these superstar receivers
Hawks fans 2022 when the hawks win 9 games, 4 more than Vegas predicted: this rebuild is going amazing, this team has so much potential. Hawks fans 2023 when the hawks win 9 games, 2 more than Vegas predicted dispite terrible luck and circumstance: pete is holding back this incredibly talented team, fire pete and everything will get better. Hawks fans 2024 when starting 3-3 and staring at a 6 to 8 win season: this team is lacking talent, this is really John's fault, time for a rebuild.
The defence has good pieces but doesn’t play well together. Mafe - Murphy - Williams -Hall has great potential to be a top 10 defensive line. Add in the man skills of Witherspoon - Woolen & Love and you should be a top 10 defense. 5 of them you drafted! I want to wait a season to let MM add in his scheme and see where it is. He needed two years in Baltimore before it got great. With the offense they have all the skill players but it means very little if the line is bad. I think we need to cut some $ from skill players, fant & Lockett. I think DK and Geno are good atm but both will cost more next year which makes me baulk at paying them. I like Geno but he sits in the Goff bucket - needs the o-line to protect him. Poor guy has played so many games with Bosa lining up against a 3rd string tackle. No wonder he is flustered. With the line -additions Connor Williams & Laken Tomlinson haven’t met expectations. At this point only Cross seems to be above average. Picks made so far Lucas / Oluwatimi / Bradford aren’t working out which is frustrating. So just drafting more line men sounds good but either we aren’t drafting the right ones or we aren’t developing them. We will see in another 2 years whether the investments made in the tackle position in the 24 draft might pay dividends. And to top it off you look at The Niners who drafted a Right Guard in the 3rd round and he’s already playing really well. 🤷♂️ KC managed to replace their online in 1 off-season after losing to the Bucs. Hopefully we can do the same this offseason and be back to contending.
Best RUclips analysis of Seahawks always. Two test for next year will be whether they get rid of Metcalf. They must send a message. We won’t put up with this kind of crap. It’s a cancer tothe team me first.
Could we scam a 1st off Washington for DK? They might think they’re into a window with Daniel’s? Could we get away with doing what New England have done with a Briscett and get rid of Gino knowing we need a qb “soon”
DK is probably our only high value player who’s worth getting rid of for anything decent. Lockett maybe but he’s a vet, you’d get nothing. We’ve got young guys or ones who aren’t worth anything. Maybe Mafe but 🤷 I think I’d rather have DK than someone like KCs first
Real talk but is the offense really the main problem? To me, the defense is the main problem. Geno and DK are fine. And the thought of replacing DK with a guy just like Jake Bobo does not make sense. Be logical before trading one your best players on your entire team especially if it's for peanuts.
My answer to what is the main problem at the moment is: both. As for replacing DK -- it's about the reality of having to pay him $30m a year from the off-season. You have to balance that into the equation. It's totally logical to discuss and appreciate the benefit of swapping DK and $30m in salary for having that amount to spend on other areas (eg OL) and having a high draft pick or two to use. And Geno being 'fine' is OK for the rest of this season but 'fine' is not a long term solution, especially when the player in question is 34.
DK doesn’t take over games? Did you guys forget about the Dallas game last year? Im frustrated with his attitude but you guys are acting like he’s some scrub when he’s not. He is the most talented player on this offense
Lions GM made countless talking heads and flip floppers look bad with his drafting. Don’t know if narrative loud mouths like Colin Cowherd etc have gotten over it.Interesting stuff here, I’m in!
@iron_bison dk fucks up our whole rythym of offense. Things would run smoother on that side of the ball without forcing his touches. And Crosby makes anybody better. The raiders are a mockery of an org.
@@jesselund360 Dk is the main reason why the offense is working in the first place. We can’t run the ball. JSN is inconsistent. Noah Fant shows up when he wants too. The only constant we have is Dk and he has been for years. One game and yall wanna blow it up.
@@jesselund360 Tyler Lockett was better last week. Dk Metcalf had 1 bad game. Dk was good in the lions game and ok in the giants game. He is 4th in the nfl in receiving yards i dont know what else you want from him. Dk isn’t a perfect player, but he is a good player and has been good for us for a long time
Schneider admitting he made a lot of mistakes? He may need to be fired. People don’t like to admit to their mistakes. M.M. needs a new GM. Schneider definitely gonna kick the can.
I'm way more positive than Rob, I think this team has potential all Pros, K9, Spoon, Murphy down the line possibly. They went toe to toe with Detroit, missing all the D players, they hung with SF and had an opportunity to win, these are the top 2 candidates to win the NFC. Agreed something seems off with the attitude but losing 3 straight will do that
Did they go toe to toe with Detroit? I mean, they had a good day offensively but ultimately, Detroit didn't have an incomplete pass and always felt like the better team IMO
This video from Real Hawk Talk: ruclips.net/user/liveQkImTwI7b_8?si=jPdqNGdBW9dS4JnY shows that the run defense problem is bad gap integrity by the linebackers and safeties (linebackers especially) while defending the run using light boxes. The Seahawks are something like 29th againt the run when using light boxes (2 down linemen 4 linebackers) vs 4th in the league against the run when they go with 7 in the box. They use light boxes a bit too much Adding one down lineman on a regular basis is a path towards a potential quick fix to the run defense in the coming games
@@jesselund360 What? Bro do u have some person vendetta against Dk💀? you do know he is 4th in the NFL in receiving yards and is on pace for 88 catches 1,329 yards and 6 tds?
The Lions stunk, picked Hutch with the second pick and Sewell was the seventh pick in the draft. The 49er lost their quarterback with an injury. They picked Bosa in the top 5. The Seahawks will need a bad season to draft high to get those players.
Rob and Jeff are my faves!
Does John Schneider and his scout team rely too much on the Senior bowl and not enough in other areas to evaluate and draft players? Just a thought.
I was just saying the other day that we need to get rid of DK and use Bobo more. At least he acts like he has heart.
Bobo can have all the heart he wants and i'm into trading DK but they aren't any comp to each other.
Bobo isn’t talented enough to fill the void trading Dk would make. You don’t trade your best players just cuz. This is why fans aren’t gms
@@Construct87 it means that he puts in effort to catch the ball. When have you seen DK do that? That’s what I mean.
@@darrellchapman2367 I am not saying he is. I am saying we can do without him.
Jake bobo still plays like his roster spot is on the line dk does not his fumbling problem has become too much and that’s just the start of his problems
Hi Rob. I missed the live stream but I am interested in your thoughts on this question. 'IF' we went all in on beefing up the O Line in the next draft and free agency what are your thoughts on going with a calibre QB like Howell until we find the next gem and see where we go? Appreciate he may not be the answer but he'd have more protection, run game would be stronger and Howell would still have some weapons to use. Just a thought of going cheap QB and using money in the lines. From a man of my limited knowledge it seems to be quickest way around changing the type of team we are??
I would do anything that would build towards the benefit of a championship caliber team. If that means saving money on certain players, so be it. You’re either on the path to glory or you aren’t and I’m not sure they currently are
I just get upset when people bash Mike. We have crap players with crap attitudes. Not all of them but a lot more than we all would like.
Always like watching these.
Thanks for the content
Hell yeah love the Rob + Jeff shows!
I don't understand the mentality of a fan grasping on to the decline of the Niners. Lets worry about our own team. That's such a loser perspective.
It’s fun to watch your rival fall but you want your team to still be better than them
Thanks guys
DK remains the most tradeable player with significant return.
Trading Dk would be a horrible idea
@@darrellchapman2367 If he was performing anywhere close to his potential, I'd agree with you. But he's not and he hasn't been. Folks need to stop viewing DK through the lens of potential and start viewing him for what he is. He's a WR2 who thinks he's a WR1, and that's a problem.
@@darrellchapman2367 It’s trading DK or paying him $35m+. Between the two right now, paying him that kind of money when your QB isn’t elite and isn’t on a rookie contract seems like the horrible idea
@@ColorsFadeGaming Dk is 4th in the nfl in receiving yards. If you was to send Dk some where else for like 1st round pick it would have a bigger impact than just losing the production. Teams treat Dk like a number 1. They double and triple team him all the time and that alone has value because it can open up your offense for other receivers. Dk is having his best season so far. Trading him for a pick that isn’t guaranteed to lead to a good player just isn’t a good idea.
@@spencerpelfrey3803 We already restructured Dk’s deal. He is more than likely gonna get extended regardless. If you get rid of Dk and get a pick who isn’t guaranteed to even be half of Dk metcalf its not a good idea. You don’t get rid of good players.
DK has been more productive in Hulu commercials than as a WR for the Seahawks this year.
Dang. Then how bad has top 20 pick jsn been?
Dk is 4th in the nfl in receiving yards and has the 11th most receiving yards since he came into the nfl in 2019. Dk has been nothing but great for us
@@darrellchapman2367but fans like Jeff Simmons think he "doesn't take over games," looking forward to trading DK and watching the offense with all other recievers catching sub 10yards a play....
Man when they hired MM, and I said blow it up, and rebuild with your core best players. People were shitting all over me. Looks like I was right
Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back
Arm chair Gm
Trading all your good players for draft picks don’t always lead to success. All it does is leave you in a perpetual state of ass. The jags had so many top 5 draft picks this century and have tanked multiple times and they are still terrible.
Thanks Rob 👍
Great show!
To me, Dre'mont Jones has been mailing it in since last season. Jeff said he blew up Trent Williams.. I missed that but did see Kittle easily wash him out. Idk, maybe it's confirmation bias, but I keep noticing him for the wrong reasons.
@@richn2525 or not noticing him at all. Not money well-spent for sure
Excellent stream Rob and Jeff
This is an excellent analysis! Nice job guys. Schneider needs to fix his approach immediately or get out of the way. McDonald shouldn't have to wait 1-2 years to get a real chance to build this team the right way.
It's pretty simple, we don't have any "Champions". We don't have anybody who can go out and dominate a game. People like DK, Spoon, they extremely talented, but that isn't translating into winning games. I think actually the only person on offense who fits that bill might be K9. On defense there is more potential with Mafe, Hall, Murphy, Spoon, Riq and Love to some extent, but so far none of them have elevated to that level. To win championships, you need champions. We might need a new GM, John hasn't found a blue-chipper in about 10 years imo.
Also, regardless of how talented Geno is or isn't, I am done with him. He's a terrible leader, he inspires no confidence and can't beat our #1 rival. If this was college, it would be equivalent to the Ohio State/Michigan or Alabama/GA rivalries where you have two teams that are great all year, but coaches get fired if you can't win that game ever. That's Geno, he can't lead and win games that actually matter. Not the Lions early season, but playoff games our division rivals. I am fine with him as a bridge, but I don't want to build around him.
Dk has had many dominant games since he was a Seahawk. Last season he had 134 and 3 touchdowns against a good cowboys defense. His rookie year in the playoffs he had a dominant showing with 7 catches and 160 yards and a TD. Spoon had a game last year against the cardinals where he was physical and laying dudes out and had a pick that was called back due to penalty. We have legitimately good players and some of them are blue chip. Where john has struggled most is the oline. I can’t disagree about your take on Geno tho
The worst place for any professional sports franchise to be is mediocre. It’s the hardest place to win from. I agree that we need a quarterback of the future and we need to build this team for MM. I think the real question is, when trying to figure out what to do with the franchise is what does Jodi think? If she wants to keep the club, as is portrayed in the local media, does the idea of tearing down the team align with her wishes. Or does she need the team to stay in the current lane until she has future control. I think only John and MM know for sure.
As much as our Defense sucks I am confident about it. But offense not so much. The scheme, the OL, the diva receivers, the shot tempered QB is really concerning.
I think the defensive performance has been really worrying so far
I agree with you guys that the main issue is the construction of this roster. Schneider has dropped the ball in constructing the trenches. He hasn’t been serious about building a stud Oline since SB 49. As far as the Dline, his moves have been head scratching too
We also don’t draft well in the 1st. Last few years have been ok but elite teams have identity. Without identity you become the Steelers being ok with 500 seasons
You would think that if you want to build a championship football team, you would start on the offensive line first before signing all these superstar receivers
Hawks fans 2022 when the hawks win 9 games, 4 more than Vegas predicted: this rebuild is going amazing, this team has so much potential.
Hawks fans 2023 when the hawks win 9 games, 2 more than Vegas predicted dispite terrible luck and circumstance: pete is holding back this incredibly talented team, fire pete and everything will get better.
Hawks fans 2024 when starting 3-3 and staring at a 6 to 8 win season: this team is lacking talent, this is really John's fault, time for a rebuild.
Go Hawks
Is this show available on spotify?
It isn’t
Noah Fant makes $10M??!!! Yikes.
sad days
You put these out in podcast form?
The thing with Geno is you never know what you’re going to get.
"He's good in the locker room"
Translation: He sucks, but everybody likes him!
Love the candor🏈… team is flat out awful.. scoreboard all we need
The defence has good pieces but doesn’t play well together. Mafe - Murphy - Williams -Hall has great potential to be a top 10 defensive line.
Add in the man skills of Witherspoon - Woolen & Love and you should be a top 10 defense. 5 of them you drafted!
I want to wait a season to let MM add in his scheme and see where it is. He needed two years in Baltimore before it got great.
With the offense they have all the skill players but it means very little if the line is bad. I think we need to cut some $ from skill players, fant & Lockett. I think DK and Geno are good atm but both will cost more next year which makes me baulk at paying them. I like Geno but he sits in the Goff bucket - needs the o-line to protect him. Poor guy has played so many games with Bosa lining up against a 3rd string tackle. No wonder he is flustered.
With the line -additions Connor Williams & Laken Tomlinson haven’t met expectations. At this point only Cross seems to be above average. Picks made so far Lucas / Oluwatimi / Bradford aren’t working out which is frustrating. So just drafting more line men sounds good but either we aren’t drafting the right ones or we aren’t developing them. We will see in another 2 years whether the investments made in the tackle position in the 24 draft might pay dividends.
And to top it off you look at The Niners who drafted a Right Guard in the 3rd round and he’s already playing really well. 🤷♂️
KC managed to replace their online in 1 off-season after losing to the Bucs. Hopefully we can do the same this offseason and be back to contending.
Go hawks!
Rob, tons QBs get angry at their players when they mess up.
@@wubranch1 never claimed they don’t. I would posit that the best of those QB’s don’t have a sulk on the bench too
Best RUclips analysis of Seahawks always. Two test for next year will be whether they get rid of Metcalf. They must send a message. We won’t put up with this kind of crap. It’s a cancer tothe team me first.
Then get rid of geno in the offseason. Can't have toxic leaders.
Trading Dk is a terrible idea
Trade DK = More Bobo, what could we fetch in your honest opinion?
It’s hard to say. It’s not a great 2025 draft so that helps I think. A first rounder and a third would be a reasonable starting point
DK owned Carlton Davis in Detroit but our defense can't stop a sneeze.
Could we scam a 1st off Washington for DK? They might think they’re into a window with Daniel’s? Could we get away with doing what New England have done with a Briscett and get rid of Gino knowing we need a qb “soon”
DK is probably our only high value player who’s worth getting rid of for anything decent. Lockett maybe but he’s a vet, you’d get nothing. We’ve got young guys or ones who aren’t worth anything. Maybe Mafe but 🤷 I think I’d rather have DK than someone like KCs first
You both tell it like it is.
Real talk but is the offense really the main problem? To me, the defense is the main problem.
Geno and DK are fine. And the thought of replacing DK with a guy just like Jake Bobo does not make sense. Be logical before trading one your best players on your entire team especially if it's for peanuts.
My answer to what is the main problem at the moment is: both. As for replacing DK -- it's about the reality of having to pay him $30m a year from the off-season. You have to balance that into the equation. It's totally logical to discuss and appreciate the benefit of swapping DK and $30m in salary for having that amount to spend on other areas (eg OL) and having a high draft pick or two to use. And Geno being 'fine' is OK for the rest of this season but 'fine' is not a long term solution, especially when the player in question is 34.
go hawks
DK doesn’t take over games? Did you guys forget about the Dallas game last year? Im frustrated with his attitude but you guys are acting like he’s some scrub when he’s not. He is the most talented player on this offense
@@fordcowboy08 no we aren’t. Stop being silly. And he hardly ‘took over the game’ against Dallas
@@robstatonfootball ….aaaaaand we lost that game too, so not the best resume builder
Is Byron Murphy a leader?
He's a rookie
Lions GM made countless talking heads and flip floppers look bad with his drafting. Don’t know if narrative loud mouths like Colin Cowherd etc have gotten over it.Interesting stuff here, I’m in!
DK is this decades form of Terrell Owen’s. Team Obliterator. Most fans are ready for a trade to happen. Good Riddens. 👋
Dk metcalf isn’t a locker room cancer
John Schneider ⏳⌛️
Metcalf and a 2nd for Crosby
Why? How does an edge rusher and a lesser wr room help? Maybe an olinemen.
@iron_bison dk fucks up our whole rythym of offense. Things would run smoother on that side of the ball without forcing his touches. And Crosby makes anybody better. The raiders are a mockery of an org.
@@jesselund360 Dk is the main reason why the offense is working in the first place. We can’t run the ball. JSN is inconsistent. Noah Fant shows up when he wants too. The only constant we have is Dk and he has been for years. One game and yall wanna blow it up.
@@darrellchapman2367 Tyler has been better for 3 weeks you're smokin
@@jesselund360 Tyler Lockett was better last week. Dk Metcalf had 1 bad game. Dk was good in the lions game and ok in the giants game. He is 4th in the nfl in receiving yards i dont know what else you want from him. Dk isn’t a perfect player, but he is a good player and has been good for us for a long time
Greg Gaines is a superb run stuffer and once again is on a 1 year 3.5 million dollar contract. That's cheap as hell. They should not have fired Pete.
Schneider admitting he made a lot of mistakes? He may need to be fired. People don’t like to admit to their mistakes. M.M. needs a new GM. Schneider definitely gonna kick the can.
I'm way more positive than Rob, I think this team has potential all Pros, K9, Spoon, Murphy down the line possibly. They went toe to toe with Detroit, missing all the D players, they hung with SF and had an opportunity to win, these are the top 2 candidates to win the NFC. Agreed something seems off with the attitude but losing 3 straight will do that
Did they go toe to toe with Detroit? I mean, they had a good day offensively but ultimately, Detroit didn't have an incomplete pass and always felt like the better team IMO
We need Sam Howell. Geno has to go.
Trade DK!
I love DK but I won’t tolerate his immature attitude that hurts the team. Time to trade DK.
When has his attitude hurt the team??
This video from Real Hawk Talk: ruclips.net/user/liveQkImTwI7b_8?si=jPdqNGdBW9dS4JnY
shows that the run defense problem is bad gap integrity by the linebackers and safeties (linebackers especially) while defending the run using light boxes. The Seahawks are something like 29th againt the run when using light boxes (2 down linemen 4 linebackers) vs 4th in the league against the run when they go with 7 in the box. They use light boxes a bit too much
Adding one down lineman on a regular basis is a path towards a potential quick fix to the run defense in the coming games
I’m telling you now - there is no quick fix after giving up the runs they have this season
Metcalf and a 3rd for Parsons and a 5th
If you don’t like Dk you would hate Parsons
@@darrellchapman2367 can't get any worse vibes wise
@@jesselund360 you want the guy who is buddy buddy with division rivals after getting destroyed in the game previously?
@@darrellchapman2367 I'd rather have a guy admit he's soft than act hard lol
@@jesselund360 What? Bro do u have some person vendetta against Dk💀? you do know he is 4th in the NFL in receiving yards and is on pace for 88 catches 1,329 yards and 6 tds?
The Lions stunk, picked Hutch with the second pick and Sewell was the seventh pick in the draft. The 49er lost their quarterback with an injury. They picked Bosa in the top 5. The Seahawks will need a bad season to draft high to get those players.
In fairness, Maxx Crosby was also a R4, Chris Jones early R2, Mahomes 10th overall after trading up, TJ Watt late first… So you can find them
In fairness, Maxx Crosby was also a R4, Chris Jones early R2, Mahomes 10th overall after trading up, TJ Watt late first… So you can find them
Go Hawks