if she gets accused of cheating coz she beat someone with a higher rating than her then why is there even a tournament? coz even if she wins she will be accused...... its so stupid.
@Cristian Prodan A conclusion is final. I'm only guessing. I'm guessing there was sexism because no other chess player has been accused of cheating on such absurd reasoning. I state it as a guess and not a closed conclusion because I understand that there may have been factors other than just "she was a woman, who won, therefor cheating." But I definitely think that that's a big part of it, though I could be wrong. I just don't like it when people play the sexist card without any further consideration. As for why everything has to be about sex or race? Well, I was responding more to Beitno (who made it about sexism) than to Ly (who made it about rank). And to answer your last question, I think it depends on the circumstances. Often the boss is racist, but sometimes the black guy in question is just a bad employee.
Ly Sohaimy a tournament is meant to show your good at something. It helps you and can create friends. You are saying that the point system controls tournaments. What you should be saying is. Why was there no evidence against her?
@TobyyOnly the crazy ones think that. It's not unfair to assume sexism when accused of having a supercomputer in your lip balm, even if there's technically more to it than that. It is unfair, always, in every universe, to assume that a man is sexist for the sole reason being that he saved your life.
I used to cheat by turning my armchair into google search engine super micro chip computer scanner thought sensor answer projector. Your watch computer is overrated
@@MasiMojoda i am not French but looks like you lack the information about France losing it's majority young population in the world war 1 . Leaving them with a generation incapable of fighting. They surrendered because it was better than killing your own kids like the USSR.
For the record, it was super suspicious that she kept going to the bathroom and leaving the board with her lip balm. We’re talking like 70s level tech btw with the lip balm being a one way induction receiver. You can’t be that accurate AND make engine style moves while doing that without raising suspicion and someone complaining. I mean a gm offered her an early draw from a non losing position because he thought she was using an engine. You would only do that if you were pretty sure because the engine only snowballs as the game goes on where as a normal person makes decisions
@@Luminousreign lol this accusation would never be levied on a man. she made moves that engines didn't recommend. you are just as foolish as the boys club that accused her. From another comment here. "1. she didnt play the top recommended engine moves 2. no, she didnt have a winning streak against a series of +400 players. it was a range of around +350 to -300, and it was win draw and loss. 3. elo rating is irrelevant if you capitalize on a mistake. even a 2600 player can make a 1800 blunder, and as 2200 player, you then capitalize on that. bauer himself confirmed this and even identified his mistake."
@@laconic151 you are an idiot. their was no suspicious behavior, you are allowed to get up from the table. She didn't cheat. She didn't have a super computer in her lip stick. These accusations would never be made against a man. The fact that you are arguing with no proof at all with me shows who you are. Just stupid.
It wasn't the lip balm mostly... she would get up and walk to the bathroom often and go outstide during games when it wasn't her turn. The one time a guy didn't let her do this she lost.
Yeah, Spassky "also had an engine", in his cigars. He was sending smoke signals and receiving answers back from the team hidden in public. Chess tournaments in 1970s -- smoke everywhere!
I don't believe she was using a super engine lip balm. That's just ridiculous and impossible. The most logical thing to think is that she has a nuclear powered cyborg arm that moves automatically whenever it's her turn to play. And whenever she exhales, she releases nanobots that go through her opponents nose then into the brain that allows her to read her opponents thoughts.
What I don't understand is why did she develop all this to win ? She easily developed technology by a few decades so therefore she didn't need these resources to outsmart him.
@@TheCitizenship and is the right descision. Once a player got suspected of cheating, especially from the community officials, it will hurt both the player and community if the player still existed there. Whether they're cheating or not.
@@IAMZielt that just shows how little that community was willing to support one of their own the moment accusations were made without any evidence whatsoever, especially with how ridiculous those accusations were. As someone who’s not a part of that community, it looks incredibly toxic and like something that I wouldn’t want to touch with a ten foot pole based off of this.
someone accused me of cheating the other day. i’m a 1000 rated player. he literally just blundered his queen, then his rook, then his knight, and accused me of cheating for seeing his obvious blunders.
So basically, she got into the guys head with a couple of very slightly unorthodox moves and managed to capitalize on a fairly minor mistake. That is what chess is all about...
@@circularobjects806 legit doesn't imply great, scotish game is also weak and avoided in GM play, you can still play it but it's not making you any real favour
Who else was just going "ahh yes yes the standard reply to pawn to b6" not even fking knowing the name of the "bishop" and just being here because youtube recommended, still gonna watch it all though
If she was smart enough to figure out how to achieve two-way communication with a chess super computer using lip balm, then her brain would be powerful enough to not need help playing chess. Like, they're accusing her of something that's way more difficult than beating a human being in chess.
@@qtulhoo The point is that some people were skeptical of something she did, but the alternative they accused her of was way less plausible and completely unrealistic. I'd also guess that if she had the kind of supernatural intellect they accused her of having, learning to play chess would be a simple matter for her.
@@connorjohnston591 It doesn't need to be a computer, that's his point... just a tiny screen or sound transmitter hidden inside the balmstick. Still stupid but far from impossible. Then have an accomplice with an actual computer. Nowadays players can easily cheat during bathroom breaks.
1. she didnt play the top recommended engine moves 2. no, she didnt have a winning streak against a series of +400 players. it was a range of around +350 to -300, and it was win draw and loss. 3. elo rating is irrelevant if you capitalize on a mistake. even a 2600 player can make a 1800 blunder, and as 2200 player, you then capitalize on that. bauer himself confirmed this and even identified his mistake.
@jason thomas He's being sarcastic, mate. Trying to mock and mimic those accusers by acting all prideful yet idiotic. Well, just because those trio were GM and IMs, doesnt mean that their brain is free from idiotic thought
When there's a rating involved people get egotistical and then later embarrassed. Its best to be sportsmanlike to avoid these things but not everyone can help themselves.
He is making an elaborate point. Why try to prove something that nobody is willing to accept even when its proven beyond reasonable doubt? Why debate on subjects with people who vary widely in their comprehension and position on said subjects? Why am I asking you anything at all? 9 out of 10 will simply rebuddle with some infantile dribble about my own intellect or identity, and attempt to assault my character. Share our ideas and opinions, reflect on them then continue on to something else. Exchange 1-2's and keep moving down the road, dont turn it into a 15 round long bout, but no? Nobody understands the true logic imbedded in a well configured string of words, they take it as face value without any perception for the underlying context. Just as Im writing this, I know it makes little or no difference
@@wokenepali8376 if there would be anything suspicious within the lipstick they would find it, also there was simply no time to cheat, the game (this game) was all decided in time trouble, she didn't leave her place even for a second between those moves
They are actually putting chemicals in the water that turn frogs gay. It is pollution, not a conspiracy - you just assume anything alex jones says is one... because alex jones.
for decades casino cheaters have been using tiny hidden devices to count cards and otherwise cheat. she won all her matches when she had the balm. as soon as it was confiscated, she lost. that to me seems quite suspicious. but it's not the only probable explanation. she could just be an underrated player. people can increase their skills with hard training. her opponents could also be overrated. shit happens.
Well... yes and no; the chemicals part is true but instead of changing their sexual orientation, believe it or not, it actually causes the frogs themselves to reverse their biological sex. They literally change from to male to female. (Information gathered from a biologist)
1. She wasn't even playing the accurate moves as indicated by a computer, its so easy to check this that any hypothesis suggesting she played borderline impossible to find computer lines can be shut down immediately. 2. The difference in rating is irrelevant when the higher rated player makes moves that anyone, including a computer, could identify as mistakes, and ones that would rarely be made by someone at their supposed rating. All she did was capitalize on a 1800 rated mistake. 3. Her confident and accurate play in the middle/end game with time trouble approaching was what solidified her win, which would be the hardest for her to cheat during
Not a chess player, but I've heard of stories of heavy "elo chasers", that simply refuse to stay in their league. It's not that far off to think there are people that are threatened by good underdogs, when they're used to feeding off of them. Personally, I'm not at all familiar with her, or how long she has been playing, but I'd never consider her Elo to be evidence at all.
I know this is pale in comparison. My older brother was the family's genius and how he could do no wrong in mathematics ect. He was huge on the chess scene in high school and did the local and state stuff. When he would get home from work at night, he would drag me out of bed and demand me play him because he had no one to play. I'm in 3rd grade, then 4th grade, ect. This went on and most of the time, I only understood the basics, i never knew there was strategy to it. I never beat him until, as my younger brother calls it, "The Day". I was in 8th grade and I spent that whole yearly, playing everyone at my school, working on the perfect trap. I played teachers, students, and parents, anyone that would sit down. It was springtime and I was home from school, my older brother got home from his job, he was already halfway through his first beer and told me to set it up. My younger brother told me it was like watching Rocky touching gloves to Apollo. It all hinged on me getting to my 4th or 5th move to have him in this trap. It was this full on blitz from the flanks that I have never tried on him before and honestly, it was silly to try it. But...When I was able to land my 5th move perfectly and the board just opened up the way I day dreamed about it a billion times... He looked up at me and said "Oh, you came to play for once, now it's a game". Few moves later, I had him in checkmate and to this day, he swears I cheated somehow. I never played chess with him again, I'm like 1-9000-0 lifetime against him, but it's that 1 win...ruined his perfect record. An 8th grader beating a 23 year old. I mean, if you think about it, i'm on a winning streak against him and he's on a losing streak against me... lol
Lol this made me smile, I’m happy you finally won against him. You stick to your guns and never play with him again! Lol keep that winning streak forever haha
If you accuse someone of cheating and can't prove it, you should be punished yourself. Cause obviously you harm that person. So you should be fined or disqualified or something. There are actually laws for this.
There's nothing wrong with being suspicious when events are suspicious, and voicing that. It's how you catch cheaters. Jumping a 400 point rating gap is pretty suspicious. But there needs to be evidence following that in order to maintain your suspicion. When you don't find the evidence even after carefully monitoring her, holding her belongings while she plays, etc, it's time to shut up. Furthermore, the fact that she was playing non-engine moves and still winning means either she's legit, or she's the most talented cheater of all time. Pretty unlikely you'd run into the greatest chess cheater of all time at some random chess tournament, don't you think?
@Faisal Lewis no it isn't slander. Accusing someone of cheating and saying that they have been accused of cheating are not slander. Saying someone did cheat without evidence would be but an accusation says that you think they cheated which cant be slander because it isn't false. If I say I think something then my statement is true regardless of whether what I think is true or not. Slander must be false to be slander.
Somehow I found this video in my suggested. I’m not even a chess player, I’m awful at the game, but I would like to say a few words. This is the most informative video I’ve ever watched reviewing a single game; that is, coming from a background of computer gaming. The last time I watched someone break down gameplay this hard was when people accused Flusha of hacking in CS:GO. I never expected to find such a pure and calm comment section on a video... ever. There’s 1.5K comments here of intelligent people and I never anticipated that people could be so pure on RUclips Comments. I also now have this overwhelming need to play chess. That being said I would lose immediately to a computer so I don’t see what the attraction is...
As a high ranked csgo player whos come into chess recently, I can say that the two games couldnt be more different. Csgo trains your quick brain and causes you to make decisions quickly but you'll slowly understand that chess doesn't work that way
But do learn to play chess! I think that the main difference is that in csgo the strategy is made before the round starts and in chess the strategy changes as the game progresses.
It's been ages since I've played chess... but me and my friend used to play LOTS of Dota Allstars and Dota 2 with some League of Legends and Path of Exile ... with all of these games there wasn't better game then chess to play in the afternoon. We've joined up in his or my home, made some coffee or tea and we would spent hours (around 5-6 hours) until morning hours. It really is a entertaining game if you have someone you can play aganist ... I've find myself liking to play aganist more skilled players than I'm, every single victory feels much much better and with every loose comes some moves you can later use aganist him/her :^)
These GMs have enough brain power to play chess at their level but are stupid enough to believe that her lip balm is a transmitter for a supercomputer. Great.
you are calling them stupid yet you are the one claiming that a patently feasible technological feat is "impossible" ... 🤔... also to accuse someone of something does not require you to be 100% certain that they are guilty of the act you are accusing them of. if they truly believed her to be cheating, would they not be acting in a deceitful way that is harmful to the game to NOT report her for what they thought she was doing? please don't let your liberal brainwashing cloud your judgement here ... if two women accused a man and it turned out he wasn't cheating, something tells me you wouldn't care and wouldn't be calling those two accusers "sexist idiots"
@@jhanks2012 "please don't let your liberal brainwashing cloud your judgement here" he says while letting his brainwashed misogynistic "men are under attack" mentality decide what people would say in a completely made up scenario.
Bauer admitted he blundered a pawn away on that Bishop move. And being down a pawn that deep into the game is easily enough to cause defeat. Not to mention Anna didn't make best moves even after white's blunder, nor did she do only engine moves. So a cheating accusation seems unfounded.
I don't think it has too much to do with gender. I think it was just that the higher rated player can't accept that he loss to a lower rated player. Egos.
@@---ii8hl has there ever been a male player that constantly had lipbalm on their person during every single match during a tournament winning games against a variety of higher ranked players? people of all kinds are accused of cheating for stupid reasons all the fucking time. Asking if a dude has ever been accused of cheating literally the exact same way as the chick in the video is just dumb.
@@---ii8hl She was getting up and leaving to go outside and to the bathroom etc when it wasn't her turn...... As soon as she was not allowed to do this she lost.
Rewatched this after having watched Anna Rudolf's hour-long detailed analysis of this very game just recently. She recounted that one of her opponents (whom she believed was one of the 3 gentlemen who accused her of cheating) didn't even shake her hand before their match starts. Good thing that Christian Bauer was one of the good people (among the many in the tournament) who didn't believe the accusations of her cheating. The sportsmanship and respect probably calmed her 20-year old version then and thus this beautiful game. Totally gonna show this to my friends (can't go to the bar or the library though).
If players and tournament organisers question whether a lower-rated player is able to beat higher-rated players, why invite them? Otherwise, show your evidence of cheating or retract and apologise.
Are you honestly comparing chess to super smash bros melee? And this wasn't one upset, it was like 4 in a row, while being the massive underdog, and then when she faced someoen who said "hey, take her bag and control her washroom breaks", suddenly she lost somehow.
This sort of thing really haunts you too. In a recent stream she played against all the Beth Harmon bots, and after a particularly good move, one of the younger bots said "You cheated" and Anna visibly prickled up a bit, like she laughed it off and referenced the lipstick fiasco, but I imagine when that sort of thing takes you off-guard it can be very triggering :(
So many comments here talk about her being rated "400 points lower than her competition." Initially I accepted that claim, but it is simply not accurate. If she _had_ been so much lower rated than her competition, this would indeed be highly suspicious. In fact, none of her opponents were 400 points higher in rating. At the time of this competition, her rating was 2293. Her five wins were against: Christian Bauer, 2634 (+341), Cyril Marzolo, 2478 (+185), Colomban Vitoux, 2394 (+101), Vera Nebolsina, 2349 (+56), Nicolas Chobaut, 2001 (-291). She scored draws against a 2488 (+195) and 2463 (+170) and losses against a 2512 (+219) and 2469 (+176). This is still an excellent performance, but it puts the "She beat four 2700s" claim in perspective. I don't think she cheated. Those who complained (one of whom never even faced her in the tournament) were showing the petulance and pettiness that is unfortunately common in the chess world, especially at the NM/IM level, where making a living as a professional chess player is extremely difficult.
Exactly, at this level in chess, any player will be extremely good. I think it is just the arrogance that is very widespread in this field, that made them accuse her.
James Jumper learn enough Morse code for annotation, lip balm with wireless vibration or anything that can be felt and not heard or detected if no signals are sent to it. Then have someone watching he game with an engine on their cell phone and an app to send you good moves that follow human logical planning and tactics. Nearly undetectable cheating just don’t forget to lose occasionally and settle for tournament top 5’s etc.
Yep. And he also said that he didn't think she cheated. From the sounds of it, she saw a small error, played a great game by taking advantage of it, got into the heads of her next few competitors, then after being accused of cheating, got knocked out of the zone. Why, it's almost like chess has a huge psychological component! Who would have guesses.
Makes me remember a hilarous phrase Since your opinion doesn't align with my own I have no choice but to accuse you of being homosexual. I'm sorry it had to come to this
"is it possible that this woman just studies chess a lot and has a lot of talent? no, there's no way. there must be nanomachines in her lip balm or some shit"
According to the difference in their ratings, she should've had a 6% chance to win, 5% to draw, and 90% chance to lose. The fact that she won four games in a row against people rated that much higher than her is one in 160,000. That's phenomenally unlikely.
I get really happy when people accuse me of cheating when I'm really not. The only bad thing is if you are excluded from playing a lot of games, and no one wants to play with you anymore :(
I don’t play chess. There’s no chess related videos in my history, I have never came across it on RUclips. Why the fuck has RUclips been recommending this to me for three weeks straight. Great video btw
I started watching and eventually playing chess because RUclips started recommending me chess videos non stop. I started watching them and now I have played over 5000 chess games in the last 12 months. I have never played chess before
@@IrvingDaniel they were fucking around to save Spasky's face against the Soviet Union so he doesn't get badly punished after losing to Fischer, but didn't find anything in the end.
For the record, Stockfish 9, the world champion chess computer software, recommends a different move from the one that Ms. Rudolf played on the following occasions: moves 4, 5, 8, 9, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 45, 47, 48, 50, 51, 52, 53, 55, 57, 58, 59, 60, and 65. In other words, 33 of her 65 moves were not what Stockfish recommends. (Bear in mind that of the remaining 32 moves, plenty were forced: recapturing the rook, recapturing the queen, etc.) An excellent game by Ms. Rudolf. Bauer played a contemptuous opening, much as Carlsen did recently against Georgiadis at the Biel tournament. If you don't respect your oppponent, it can cost you.
if you want to cheat you are not going to use the best engine. that would be soo dumb :D you can use engines like Rodent, Tucano or even less known. and as mentioned it was long time ago so there were no such thing as stockfish 9
Mihailov quoted Bauer as saying, “I lost a pawn in an ending that my opponent duly converted. We were in time trouble for the last 20 moves or so, and couldn’t leave the table. Although the position wasn’t too difficult at that point, Anna played it faultlessly.” She went on a heater and the puss bois got mad lol.
'When she's using her lipstick she's not consulting a super computer, but just a maniac' haha. I bet the stress of being scrutinized so much made her last match needlessly more difficult for her. It's unfortunate but overall a great performance on Anna's part.
When I first saw this video, I had no clue who Anna Rudolf is, but I remembered the story. A year later, I come back and I realize that I now know Anna Rudolf (as a Pogchamps commentator)
Hmmm, her final opponent refused to shake her hand? I thought that was grounds for automatic loss? Was this game played before that game was introduced?
the restaurant’s piped music progressed beyond 'Santa Lucia' and 'O sole mio', and instead began playing the theme music from 'The Godfather'. At this moment, I caught Nigel’s eye, and said with mock solemnity, 'For justice, we must go to Don Corleone!'.
i saw a system which analyses some black and white borders of cards in poker, maybe it has a cam and sees the figures and puts your move somewhere..everything is possible nowadays
When the lipstick touches her lips, nano information is gathered from saliva she knead while rubbing her lips and forms the abbreviations of the moves. The lipstick engine than analyses the rubbed information, and when she moves it back again to her mouth, it transmits the information to her lips as a small layer, what later can be licked down slowly and transmitted to the receiver built in her 4th upper left tooth. ;)
I would guess if it were to be done it would be a communication device more than an engine. Yes it does seem truly ridiculous that the na was the engine because how would she enter the data, how would she get the data from it? That's why I would say he only way to do it would be with it being a communication device and she had an ear pieces or something but that is also really really far fetched. Is it really worth the effort??
I think sexism played a big part in this. The fragile male ego which Kasparov showed when Judit Polgar beat him. Gary was a real asshole that time. Go Anna!
@@Mike_Dubayou Someone above is saying some guy in the 70s got accused for hiding a supercomputer in his cigars. So, while I wouldn't be surprised if there's definitely a degree of sexism involved, I get the impression there's a mix of paranoia and big brain craziness going on here too.
you forgot that you also didn't get enough sleep, you were hungry, you were tired, you were seduced, you were hung over, and you were drugged, so you weren't able to concentrate.
This gentleman opened 1. b4 and followed up with 2. a3. Throughout many of the games, the players weren't playing top openings and Anna was clearly underrated. It's sad that pride gets in the way of congratulating others' accomplishments.
so easy to listen to this guys commentary--even as fast as he goes--he makes it so easy to follow---he gives out alot of good food for thought..........
Every competitive videogamer knows the feeling. You beat someone higher and it's either you cheating or the game's balance needs to be patched or both but it's never their own fault. Some people are pathetic like that. And it happens most often with _mediocre_ players who think too high of themselves. It's extremely rare that someone who _really_ knows the game and is a top tier player, would fall that low.
@@godfreyofbouillon966 well denial is very harmful when it comes to issues like this. If it was a man guarantee there would be no controversy around him winning when the gm made a clear inaccuracy
@@himlolo Yes women attract more attention especially pretty ones so her case is more widely known than a million of sore loser cases involving men only throughout every game ever. Are you saying this is sexism against men? :D
I experienced something similar in a 2on2 match in Counter Strike 1.6 at a live tournament many years ago. We won against 2 pros who would probably beat us in 9/10 matches. But underestimated us. After that, they came to our computers iwth the tournament director and for half an hour, they checked our computers for any proof of cheating.
CS has a bigger cheating problem than chess. There's so many ways to cheat undetected it almost undermines playing the game at all. So lot's of competitive players understandably get very paranoid over it. You can't really blame them either, there's all sorts of weird private cheats that give you varying advantages. There's one i've heard of where your phone vibrates if you are near someone. The fact that admins checked your computer and didn't come up with anything really proves nothing other than you weren't using amateur cheats. Which is why I don't play CS.
it's one thing to beat pros at good times like tournaments ... it's another for those same pros to get thier stats up by actually using the cheats they hate so much just so they dont have to work so hard to keep their status up . yes cheats in games are a sign of poor sportsmanship or sense of fair play ... in other words sure signs of an upbringing that was lacking in being good and decent with a good set of moral values ......
Solution is very simple. Organizers should use electronic devices detectors, and electronic communication signals jammers. Also, no "fresh air", no toilet, no walks, no "face washing", no looking around, no leaving the table. Broadcast should be 7 minutes delayed. And that's it. When I was a student, doing an important test - those were the rules. You simply sit at your table, you don't look around, and you get up once you are finished. Thats it - problem solved.
idk why i got this recommended to me,i don't even play chess or know the rules but i watched it anyways and i somewhat understood some stuff and had fun definitely will go back to this when i ever decide to finally learn chess cheers mate
That they were fixated on her rating shows they underestimated her, and probably got more than a bit flustered when they realised their mistake during the games.
According to the difference in their ratings, she should've had a 6% chance to win, 5% to draw, and 90% chance to lose. The fact that she won four games in a row against people rated that much higher than her is one in 160,000. It's totally reasonable to be suspicious, given those odds.
@@Strill_ except those odds are not accurate because people can't be considered as a constant in any equation. If you ever improve you will be better than what is expected.
Which one? His early accusations of the Russians colluding during the Candidates tournament have been verified 40+ years later. :-) But seriously, these clowns who accused her without evidence are, well, clowns.
Lol...true. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're wrong. I was referring to Fischer later in life where his antisemitism caused him to have outlandish conspiracy theories.
Doesn't really matter if it was a computer running a chess engine/database or an internet device or even a simple voice radio transceiver. I honestly think the issue of a player cheating (or not) should have been determined and concluded (one way or the other) ten years ago. And that more effective cheat detection/inspection methods should be implemented moving forward. There's always controversies involving players caught cheating in any sport or competition where real prizes can be won, rules meant to prevent cheating are meaningless if they cannot be effectively enforced.
I've never understood why players are allowed to walk away from the board in the middle of a tournament match. Couldn't you technically get help from others (or even an engine) while away? Do officials keep an eye on you when you step away? I'm not saying she cheated, I'm speaking in generalities.
Technically, yes. As for how you'd do it without raising some flags, I think that you'd have some trouble. Consider how it would look to play a meh game, walk away from the board during a critical position, come back, and make an optimal move. You'd probably have to do it repeatedly. So, you end up with a player whose apparent strength goes up by several hundred points for a move or two after they leave the board... Maybe it's possible to do, but the amount of work that would go into doing it convincingly makes me think of a kid spending 10 hours to cheat on an exam that he could have passed if he spent three hours studying. You'd also have to do it extensively over the course of many games to have a big impact on your tournament results, making it even easier to catch. And this assumes that you never get complacent and do something completely boneheaded to get caught.
If you've ever played over the board classical chess you'd know that this is a very common habit. Sitting in front of a board for hours on end makes it easier for some to concentrate, but harder for others. I always walk around during tournaments and look at other game or just pace by myself. Nothing unusual about that at all.
But a simple computer analysis of her moves will show you that most of her non-forced moves are not the computer recommendation. It is not hard to check this.
Simple computer analysis using programms 10 years more advanced showed that she didn't make the most optimal moves, considirable number of times. ^basically that means that she isn't utterly stupid girl with time travel device.
I paused it and spotted the knight to play check on F4 - and having been told "congratulations you are an excellent end game player" I now feel EPIC ! (I'm not a very good player really) : (
I've seen two knights and a king deliver a forced checkmate in a game between two GMs during a cadet's tournament at the Nashville Chess center many years ago. Justin Sarkar won the game. The losing player had a single pawn and a king. The winner took advantage of the fact that there was still a single pawn left on the losing side. He used his knights and king to block the progress of the pawn and force the king close to the passed pawn. Then after maneuvering the pieces, he unblocked the pawn causing a zugzwang situation in which the advance of the pawn was the only legal move, after which checkmate was unavoidable. The promoted pawn blocked a key escape square. It was one of the most beautiful chess endgames I ever saw played live.
Maximum of people cheat in photo challenge..so it doesn't matter ..I never like photo challenge cause nobody talks about game and if you see I have got many hearts talking about game or agadmatorand never for photo challenge.just enjoy the game and never complain
well you don't like the photo challenge, not others so to suggest we never complain about it and just enjoy the game is plain Dumb bc not everyone value things the way you do, you know that right?!
I think I recognise my best friend in the picture :) Nice analysis as usual, agadmator! Keep up the great work! 👏👏
+Anna Rudolf herself!!
Wow. Neat
Anna Rudolf wow !!!
100% innocent
That was brilliant game from you and nice analysis from agadmator too!
did you know that in 1990, 9 year old boy Niko Romanov played chess against 10 grandmasters at the same time and lost every game
I could do the same withh only 6 lol
That meme was hilarious
Had us in first half not gonna lie
I could win or draw against half of them, you just gotta replicate the board
Psst i can do the same with my eyes closed
GM Hikaru Nakamura accused of cheating with an engine hidden on the ceiling!
And magnus have one in his 2nd. queen
It was a tiny projector that a friend used to project moves onto a ceiling above Nakamura!
This comment alone proves why hikaru has done wonderful things for chess. 2 year old video with adgamator, and here you pop in with memes.
@@AthosJosue what)
No, the Ceiling is accused of cheating because Hikaru stares it down all the time.
if she gets accused of cheating coz she beat someone with a higher rating than her then why is there even a tournament? coz even if she wins she will be accused...... its so stupid.
Ly Sohaimy it was because they were all stuck up men against a women
It's because, like Magnus Carlsen, she thinks like an engine. Was there sexism? Probably, but I wouldn't immediately close with that conclusion.
@Cristian Prodan A conclusion is final. I'm only guessing. I'm guessing there was sexism because no other chess player has been accused of cheating on such absurd reasoning. I state it as a guess and not a closed conclusion because I understand that there may have been factors other than just "she was a woman, who won, therefor cheating." But I definitely think that that's a big part of it, though I could be wrong. I just don't like it when people play the sexist card without any further consideration. As for why everything has to be about sex or race? Well, I was responding more to Beitno (who made it about sexism) than to Ly (who made it about rank). And to answer your last question, I think it depends on the circumstances. Often the boss is racist, but sometimes the black guy in question is just a bad employee.
Ly Sohaimy a tournament is meant to show your good at something. It helps you and can create friends. You are saying that the point system controls tournaments. What you should be saying is. Why was there no evidence against her?
@TobyyOnly the crazy ones think that. It's not unfair to assume sexism when accused of having a supercomputer in your lip balm, even if there's technically more to it than that. It is unfair, always, in every universe, to assume that a man is sexist for the sole reason being that he saved your life.
I got suspicious too when she plugged dat lipbalm into her ear
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
and kept repeating, "speak louder"
😂😂
like a true lipstick maniac
@@superhuman33 she's a maniac, maniac
I use to cheat in school by using a tiny computer on my watch that sensed my thoughts. The Lip balm computer is so overrated.
I used to cheat by turning my armchair into google search engine super micro chip computer scanner thought sensor answer projector. Your watch computer is overrated
@@justinmplayz8809 man door hand hook car door
I believe you
could.
I used to cheat by reading minds.
Never needed batteries and nobody ever suspected anything
@@michaell4986 Reading minds is a neat trick. How does one acquire the tech these days?
0:58 I see the problem right away. He's French, but he's playing the Polish opening.
lol
they are both the same, both of them got invaded xd
@@Blazervitch Yeah but only one of them surrendered.
@@MasiMojoda i am not French but looks like you lack the information about France losing it's majority young population in the world war 1 . Leaving them with a generation incapable of fighting.
They surrendered because it was better than killing your own kids like the USSR.
@@MasiMojoda WAR IS NOT A LAUGHING MATTER.
"how did they come up with that theory?"
"She kept applying lip balm to her eye"
They got suspicious when she kept telling the lip balm to speak louder.
@@ambience9616 did she actually say that?
@@electricman8545 of course not fool
She put the lip balm in her ear...
she kepto going to the bathroom, idiot.
It was a terrible treatment to Anna Rudolph, when there was no evidence at all.
For the record, it was super suspicious that she kept going to the bathroom and leaving the board with her lip balm. We’re talking like 70s level tech btw with the lip balm being a one way induction receiver. You can’t be that accurate AND make engine style moves while doing that without raising suspicion and someone complaining. I mean a gm offered her an early draw from a non losing position because he thought she was using an engine. You would only do that if you were pretty sure because the engine only snowballs as the game goes on where as a normal person makes decisions
She is really good btw, no real reason for her to cheat,could have just been on a hot streak, but that also doesn’t mean she didn’t.
@@Luminousreign lol this accusation would never be levied on a man. she made moves that engines didn't recommend. you are just as foolish as the boys club that accused her.
From another comment here. "1. she didnt play the top recommended engine moves
2. no, she didnt have a winning streak against a series of +400 players. it was a range of around +350 to -300, and it was win draw and loss.
3. elo rating is irrelevant if you capitalize on a mistake. even a 2600 player can make a 1800 blunder, and as 2200 player, you then capitalize on that. bauer himself confirmed this and even identified his mistake."
@@laconic151 you are an idiot. their was no suspicious behavior, you are allowed to get up from the table. She didn't cheat. She didn't have a super computer in her lip stick. These accusations would never be made against a man. The fact that you are arguing with no proof at all with me shows who you are. Just stupid.
@@elhior23 Accusations of cheating are constantly made against men. This is chess, people cheat.
she then pulls out a mini dagger from the lip balm and stabs Bauer in the eye.
Then the james bond theme starts playing
Not working, he can beat her even in blind chess !
Lol
You like that juice Shaq meat?
Now that is chess! Heck yeah
So we have reached an era in which we think a lip balm can outplay a GM.
I wanted to become a gm before I read your comment.
IB AlphaZero is sold in lipsticks :D
@@abdalrahmanarrob6802 now u want to become a lipbalm instead 😂😂
It wasn't the lip balm mostly... she would get up and walk to the bathroom often and go outstide during games when it wasn't her turn.
The one time a guy didn't let her do this she lost.
@@upplsuckimcool16 Its been 12 years my dude, move on. No one should believe that at this point lol
Yeah, Spassky "also had an engine", in his cigars. He was sending smoke signals and receiving answers back from the team hidden in public. Chess tournaments in 1970s -- smoke everywhere!
Spassky Wi-Fi
Fisher had an even better computer...I think it was hidden in his shoe.
@@mattclements1933 No. He brought a fish with an engine hidden in it.
@@abigcock2415 stockFISH???!!!😳
Mikhail Tal also had an engine hidden in his brain.
You know that you're good if you got accused for cheating lol
... and you did not cheat.
They told Anna to turn off the hacks
Nice
Me in video games, I'm such a no life.
I hope I could replace all the play time I put in video games to chess
What happens if she was actually cheating tho
I don't believe she was using a super engine lip balm. That's just ridiculous and impossible. The most logical thing to think is that she has a nuclear powered cyborg arm that moves automatically whenever it's her turn to play. And whenever she exhales, she releases nanobots that go through her opponents nose then into the brain that allows her to read her opponents thoughts.
Hahaha !!!
This is honestly more believable than a super computer hidden in a lipbalm
i agree with this statement!
What I don't understand is why did she develop all this to win ? She easily developed technology by a few decades so therefore she didn't need these resources to outsmart him.
Ayy, lmao!
Where can I find find that lip balm computer... Tomorrow I have exams..
@Alosson Jay hahahahaha
Flamboyant Thug “his” gender?
You are watchig chess videos a day before exams! Good to know I'm not the only one.
R Yaghna Raman Santhosh ahahaaaaa😄😄😄😄😄
@@TheKonn69 plot twist: it was chess exam
Ive found that there is no greater compliment in chess than to be accused of cheating with an engine.
until the platform banned you for that false accusation..
@@IAMZielt Which was a right decision ultimately KEKL
@@TheCitizenship and is the right descision. Once a player got suspected of cheating, especially from the community officials, it will hurt both the player and community if the player still existed there. Whether they're cheating or not.
@@IAMZielt that just shows how little that community was willing to support one of their own the moment accusations were made without any evidence whatsoever, especially with how ridiculous those accusations were. As someone who’s not a part of that community, it looks incredibly toxic and like something that I wouldn’t want to touch with a ten foot pole based off of this.
someone accused me of cheating the other day. i’m a 1000 rated player. he literally just blundered his queen, then his rook, then his knight, and accused me of cheating for seeing his obvious blunders.
Idk man, when she started loudly clicking her lip balm in Morse code it got a little suspicious for me...
What got me was when she plugged her lip balm into her ear and started talking to herself
So basically, she got into the guys head with a couple of very slightly unorthodox moves and managed to capitalize on a fairly minor mistake.
That is what chess is all about...
Anyway playing b4 as first move is askink for trouble
ghuet35 b4 is a legit opening
@@MyTopo14 its generally not played because it is statistically weak
@@circularobjects806 legit doesn't imply great, scotish game is also weak and avoided in GM play, you can still play it but it's not making you any real favour
stupid idiot
Who else was just going "ahh yes yes the standard reply to pawn to b6" not even fking knowing the name of the "bishop" and just being here because youtube recommended, still gonna watch it all though
After 5ish minutes i fast forwarded by 10 minutes - and realized he was still talking about the same...
* Raises hand in awkward silence *
same.
The name of the "bishop" is Albus.
@@victoriapollard6995 *squints* not sure if dry harry potter reference or yet another term I've never heard.
If she was smart enough to figure out how to achieve two-way communication with a chess super computer using lip balm, then her brain would be powerful enough to not need help playing chess. Like, they're accusing her of something that's way more difficult than beating a human being in chess.
Engineering, programming and playing chess require intellect and skill. They don't require the _same_ intellect and skill, though.
@@qtulhoo The point is that some people were skeptical of something she did, but the alternative they accused her of was way less plausible and completely unrealistic.
I'd also guess that if she had the kind of supernatural intellect they accused her of having, learning to play chess would be a simple matter for her.
how is that any difiuclt, you can acomplish that with just a cellphone a seconds person and a laptop, you fuckin idiot.
@@omarlugos If you build me a lipbalm computer I'll pay you 1 million for it
@@connorjohnston591 It doesn't need to be a computer, that's his point... just a tiny screen or sound transmitter hidden inside the balmstick. Still stupid but far from impossible. Then have an accomplice with an actual computer.
Nowadays players can easily cheat during bathroom breaks.
1. she didnt play the top recommended engine moves
2. no, she didnt have a winning streak against a series of +400 players. it was a range of around +350 to -300, and it was win draw and loss.
3. elo rating is irrelevant if you capitalize on a mistake. even a 2600 player can make a 1800 blunder, and as 2200 player, you then capitalize on that. bauer himself confirmed this and even identified his mistake.
jason thomas it was dripping with sarcasm so I think you kinda got whooshed here
@jason thomas He's being sarcastic, mate. Trying to mock and mimic those accusers by acting all prideful yet idiotic. Well, just because those trio were GM and IMs, doesnt mean that their brain is free from idiotic thought
When there's a rating involved people get egotistical and then later embarrassed. Its best to be sportsmanlike to avoid these things but not everyone can help themselves.
He is making an elaborate point.
Why try to prove something that nobody is willing to accept even when its proven beyond reasonable doubt?
Why debate on subjects with people who vary widely in their comprehension and position on said subjects?
Why am I asking you anything at all?
9 out of 10 will simply rebuddle with some infantile dribble about my own intellect or identity, and attempt to assault my character.
Share our ideas and opinions, reflect on them then continue on to something else.
Exchange 1-2's and keep moving down the road, dont turn it into a 15 round long bout, but no? Nobody understands the true logic imbedded in a well configured string of words, they take it as face value without any perception for the underlying context.
Just as Im writing this, I know it makes little or no difference
She didn't play the engine moves, because in her lip balm is a supercomputer like Alpha Zero which is way better than the average engine.
Lol lip balm engine... I think they've been watching too much James Bond.
You do realize that when they took away the balm and her other belongings, she lost the match, right?
@@wokenepali8376 You don't realize that you are a dumbass.
@@wokenepali8376 if there would be anything suspicious within the lipstick they would find it, also there was simply no time to cheat, the game (this game) was all decided in time trouble, she didn't leave her place even for a second between those moves
@@wokenepali8376 You really think you can hide an engine inside lip balm that can tell you what to do? Hahahahaha
@@wokenepali8376 ok boomer
"They're putting computers in the lip balm!!!" - GM Alex Jones
Not only are they cheating at chess, but they're makin' the friggin' frogs gay!
They are actually putting chemicals in the water that turn frogs gay. It is pollution, not a conspiracy - you just assume anything alex jones says is one... because alex jones.
for decades casino cheaters have been using tiny hidden devices to count cards and otherwise cheat. she won all her matches when she had the balm. as soon as it was confiscated, she lost.
that to me seems quite suspicious.
but it's not the only probable explanation.
she could just be an underrated player.
people can increase their skills with hard training.
her opponents could also be overrated. shit happens.
No, no, no. This is clearly the work of HAARP. Make her wear an AFDB.
Well... yes and no; the chemicals part is true but instead of changing their sexual orientation, believe it or not, it actually causes the frogs themselves to reverse their biological sex. They literally change from to male to female. (Information gathered from a biologist)
18:48 "Her opponent refused to shake her hands" >> That's an automatic forfeit of the game, according to the FIDE rules....
As far as i know, after this tournament, yes
Lip balm makers, what are you waiting for? You should start featuring chess tournaments in your ads.
1. She wasn't even playing the accurate moves as indicated by a computer, its so easy to check this that any hypothesis suggesting she played borderline impossible to find computer lines can be shut down immediately.
2. The difference in rating is irrelevant when the higher rated player makes moves that anyone, including a computer, could identify as mistakes, and ones that would rarely be made by someone at their supposed rating. All she did was capitalize on a 1800 rated mistake.
3. Her confident and accurate play in the middle/end game with time trouble approaching was what solidified her win, which would be the hardest for her to cheat during
Not a chess player, but I've heard of stories of heavy "elo chasers", that simply refuse to stay in their league. It's not that far off to think there are people that are threatened by good underdogs, when they're used to feeding off of them. Personally, I'm not at all familiar with her, or how long she has been playing, but I'd never consider her Elo to be evidence at all.
If she won by playing better chess then she won . The onus is on whoever accused her of cheating to prove she's a cheat.
amen , my uncle is a higher elo than me , idk how high , hes just better than me , i still can sometimes beat him
To be fair, the game we just saw analysed was against Bauer, and he never accused her of anything.
yeah, Anna has always played her strongest during the end game section, it's what she's great at.
Props to Bauer for being a good sport and believing in Rudolf's integrity.
I know this is pale in comparison. My older brother was the family's genius and how he could do no wrong in mathematics ect. He was huge on the chess scene in high school and did the local and state stuff. When he would get home from work at night, he would drag me out of bed and demand me play him because he had no one to play. I'm in 3rd grade, then 4th grade, ect. This went on and most of the time, I only understood the basics, i never knew there was strategy to it. I never beat him until, as my younger brother calls it, "The Day". I was in 8th grade and I spent that whole yearly, playing everyone at my school, working on the perfect trap. I played teachers, students, and parents, anyone that would sit down. It was springtime and I was home from school, my older brother got home from his job, he was already halfway through his first beer and told me to set it up. My younger brother told me it was like watching Rocky touching gloves to Apollo. It all hinged on me getting to my 4th or 5th move to have him in this trap. It was this full on blitz from the flanks that I have never tried on him before and honestly, it was silly to try it. But...When I was able to land my 5th move perfectly and the board just opened up the way I day dreamed about it a billion times... He looked up at me and said "Oh, you came to play for once, now it's a game". Few moves later, I had him in checkmate and to this day, he swears I cheated somehow. I never played chess with him again, I'm like 1-9000-0 lifetime against him, but it's that 1 win...ruined his perfect record. An 8th grader beating a 23 year old. I mean, if you think about it, i'm on a winning streak against him and he's on a losing streak against me... lol
amazing story
Lol this made me smile, I’m happy you finally won against him. You stick to your guns and never play with him again! Lol keep that winning streak forever haha
what a wonderful story! congratulations on your victory!
This should be a movie! :D
@@BosnaVolimte I’d pay to see it
If you accuse someone of cheating and can't prove it, you should be punished yourself. Cause obviously you harm that person. So you should be fined or disqualified or something. There are actually laws for this.
Андрей Нико unless you re right :P
Exactly my thoughts
There's nothing wrong with being suspicious when events are suspicious, and voicing that. It's how you catch cheaters. Jumping a 400 point rating gap is pretty suspicious. But there needs to be evidence following that in order to maintain your suspicion. When you don't find the evidence even after carefully monitoring her, holding her belongings while she plays, etc, it's time to shut up. Furthermore, the fact that she was playing non-engine moves and still winning means either she's legit, or she's the most talented cheater of all time. Pretty unlikely you'd run into the greatest chess cheater of all time at some random chess tournament, don't you think?
@@jeffwells641 And they should definitely have very vocally cleared her name after confiscating and searching her things
@Faisal Lewis no it isn't slander. Accusing someone of cheating and saying that they have been accused of cheating are not slander. Saying someone did cheat without evidence would be but an accusation says that you think they cheated which cant be slander because it isn't false. If I say I think something then my statement is true regardless of whether what I think is true or not. Slander must be false to be slander.
Somehow I found this video in my suggested. I’m not even a chess player, I’m awful at the game, but I would like to say a few words.
This is the most informative video I’ve ever watched reviewing a single game; that is, coming from a background of computer gaming. The last time I watched someone break down gameplay this hard was when people accused Flusha of hacking in CS:GO.
I never expected to find such a pure and calm comment section on a video... ever. There’s 1.5K comments here of intelligent people and I never anticipated that people could be so pure on RUclips Comments.
I also now have this overwhelming need to play chess. That being said I would lose immediately to a computer so I don’t see what the attraction is...
As a high ranked csgo player whos come into chess recently, I can say that the two games couldnt be more different. Csgo trains your quick brain and causes you to make decisions quickly but you'll slowly understand that chess doesn't work that way
But do learn to play chess!
I think that the main difference is that in csgo the strategy is made before the round starts and in chess the strategy changes as the game progresses.
It's been ages since I've played chess... but me and my friend used to play LOTS of Dota Allstars and Dota 2 with some League of Legends and Path of Exile ... with all of these games there wasn't better game then chess to play in the afternoon.
We've joined up in his or my home, made some coffee or tea and we would spent hours (around 5-6 hours) until morning hours.
It really is a entertaining game if you have someone you can play aganist ... I've find myself liking to play aganist more skilled players than I'm, every single victory feels much much better and with every loose comes some moves you can later use aganist him/her :^)
Same thing. This is recommended to me outa no where and I’m actually interested in this. Google mind reading?
No one gives a fuck about your "AS A..." perspective. Fuck off and stop forcing your fucking identity down everyone's throat.
These GMs have enough brain power to play chess at their level but are stupid enough to believe that her lip balm is a transmitter for a supercomputer. Great.
you are calling them stupid yet you are the one claiming that a patently feasible technological feat is "impossible" ... 🤔... also to accuse someone of something does not require you to be 100% certain that they are guilty of the act you are accusing them of. if they truly believed her to be cheating, would they not be acting in a deceitful way that is harmful to the game to NOT report her for what they thought she was doing? please don't let your liberal brainwashing cloud your judgement here ... if two women accused a man and it turned out he wasn't cheating, something tells me you wouldn't care and wouldn't be calling those two accusers "sexist idiots"
Is brilliance a zero sum aptitude?
@@jhanks2012 "please don't let your liberal brainwashing cloud your judgement here" he says while letting his brainwashed misogynistic "men are under attack" mentality decide what people would say in a completely made up scenario.
@Thalassa Oceanphrite they serve sexism so obviously we're getting some politics garnishing
@@bigbrotherlop87 yeah and blm and antifa is ass
16:08 If you're here just for the story
Thanks buddy!
Thanks
Thanks King !
Thanks bro 👍
Legend
Bauer admitted he blundered a pawn away on that Bishop move. And being down a pawn that deep into the game is easily enough to cause defeat. Not to mention Anna didn't make best moves even after white's blunder, nor did she do only engine moves. So a cheating accusation seems unfounded.
If Bobby was alive and young and was a "female" his unorthodox moves would definitely be called cheating.
I don't think it has too much to do with gender. I think it was just that the higher rated player can't accept that he loss to a lower rated player. Egos.
@@meticuluous6304 yeah, people like to blame things on gender and assume smillar things wouldn't happen if they were the opposite sex.
@@---ii8hl has there ever been a male player that constantly had lipbalm on their person during every single match during a tournament winning games against a variety of higher ranked players?
people of all kinds are accused of cheating for stupid reasons all the fucking time. Asking if a dude has ever been accused of cheating literally the exact same way as the chick in the video is just dumb.
@@---ii8hl She was getting up and leaving to go outside and to the bathroom etc when it wasn't her turn...... As soon as she was not allowed to do this she lost.
@@meticuluous6304 Maybe a little bit of A, little bit of B.
So finally she lost because they destabilized her by accusing of cheating. That was nice cheat to use bug in human nature.
Rewatched this after having watched Anna Rudolf's hour-long detailed analysis of this very game just recently. She recounted that one of her opponents (whom she believed was one of the 3 gentlemen who accused her of cheating) didn't even shake her hand before their match starts. Good thing that Christian Bauer was one of the good people (among the many in the tournament) who didn't believe the accusations of her cheating. The sportsmanship and respect probably calmed her 20-year old version then and thus this beautiful game. Totally gonna show this to my friends (can't go to the bar or the library though).
"Allow me to quickly consult my supercomputer first."
*Puts on a layer of lipstick*
"Super computer says first move E4"
*Immediately surrender at 1. e4*
No, then the computer on his rest would have surrendered.
*Applies second layer*
“Super computer says Ke2”
2. Ke2
*Mate in 20*
If players and tournament organisers question whether a lower-rated player is able to beat higher-rated players, why invite them? Otherwise, show your evidence of cheating or retract and apologise.
Why wouldn't you question them? I mean, do you not understand the ranking system?
here's a concept for you: practice
Well, that'd be a good point until you actually stopped and thought "hey, wait, the GMs practice too."
So what's the next concept there genius?
Are you honestly comparing chess to super smash bros melee?
And this wasn't one upset, it was like 4 in a row, while being the massive underdog, and then when she faced someoen who said "hey, take her bag and control her washroom breaks", suddenly she lost somehow.
Point out where I said she was cheating. Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension instead of trying to make quips on youtube. :D
This sort of thing really haunts you too. In a recent stream she played against all the Beth Harmon bots, and after a particularly good move, one of the younger bots said "You cheated" and Anna visibly prickled up a bit, like she laughed it off and referenced the lipstick fiasco, but I imagine when that sort of thing takes you off-guard it can be very triggering :(
@ false
@ If you have no one to sleep with you can always hire prostitutes
@@tylerturner8070 not false
@@JR-kv6ez so anyone can say anything and with nothing to hide its fine .... toxic logic
@@tylerturner8070 Nope. You're wrong. You sound like a career criminal.
I love your commentary. LoL. "She's not consulting a supercomputer- she's just a maniac." So good.
So many comments here talk about her being rated "400 points lower than her competition." Initially I accepted that claim, but it is simply not accurate. If she _had_ been so much lower rated than her competition, this would indeed be highly suspicious.
In fact, none of her opponents were 400 points higher in rating. At the time of this competition, her rating was 2293. Her five wins were against:
Christian Bauer, 2634 (+341),
Cyril Marzolo, 2478 (+185),
Colomban Vitoux, 2394 (+101),
Vera Nebolsina, 2349 (+56),
Nicolas Chobaut, 2001 (-291).
She scored draws against a 2488 (+195) and 2463 (+170) and losses against a 2512 (+219) and 2469 (+176).
This is still an excellent performance, but it puts the "She beat four 2700s" claim in perspective.
I don't think she cheated. Those who complained (one of whom never even faced her in the tournament) were showing the petulance and pettiness that is unfortunately common in the chess world, especially at the NM/IM level, where making a living as a professional chess player is extremely difficult.
Exactly, at this level in chess, any player will be extremely good. I think it is just the arrogance that is very widespread in this field, that made them accuse her.
And don't discount machismo and sexism as motivations for the attacks.
@@thomasedavis Exactly. If she'd been a guy everyone would be full of awe and wonder at the amazing "immortal game" she played
Tom D I like how you assume it’s sexism automatically, that’s such a pathetic thing to do. Fuck off, kid.
Nick Hunter if she were a guy I’m pretty sure she’d she be accused of cheating
Admit it, you only showed her profile to flex the fact she follows you.
I find the balm threat idea silly.
I also find the lip balm to be symbolic. It signifies the beginning of Rudolf the red lipped’s reign, dear.
really ? have you no shame ?
nice...
Not only do I have no sense of propriety I don’t even know what “propriety” means.
James Jumper learn enough Morse code for annotation, lip balm with wireless vibration or anything that can be felt and not heard or detected if no signals are sent to it. Then have someone watching he game with an engine on their cell phone and an app to send you good moves that follow human logical planning and tactics. Nearly undetectable cheating just don’t forget to lose occasionally and settle for tournament top 5’s etc.
I hide my engine inside my rectum. I clench morse code while I play.
"I'm not sexist, I just think don't believe that a woman is so good at chess. She must be cheating by lip balm!"
That is basically there entire argument in a nutshell.
When did they say it's because she's a woman?
@@RichQQ they didnt, so case closed? People are smart enough not to openly say "because shes a woman"....but we know what they mean
@@pcpolice2314 yet, you still have to assume.
@@RichQQ it’s obvious buddy. They wouldn’t do the same shot to a man and try to get away
I use a nanotech engine disguised as fake eyelashes, so it transmits moves directly to my brain.
I prefer using hidden neurons inside my head.
fairytalejedi FTJ nanotech disguised as your bra?
You all cheaters will be caught eventually! Rawr!!!
Is there still a point to disguise a nanotech as fake eyelashes even though your eyelashes are already fake?
James Petherick there just jokeing lol
“She’s not using an engine, she’s just a maniac”
He's not only interpreting chess games, also Twitter profiles.
Everyone is talking about Anna using her lip balm as an excuse to cheat, but no one is mentioning the crib notes hidden in Christian's eyeliner.
digusting imagery...
The lip balm speaks for itself
Didn't her opponent say himself that he'd made a critical error?
Yep. And he also said that he didn't think she cheated.
From the sounds of it, she saw a small error, played a great game by taking advantage of it, got into the heads of her next few competitors, then after being accused of cheating, got knocked out of the zone. Why, it's almost like chess has a huge psychological component! Who would have guesses.
He wasn't the one accusing her. It was mostly Oleg Krivonosov who was supported by Oleg Lazarev and Ilmars Starostits.
@@khosrow They accused her of using secret technology because Russians had that technology. #KGB
"They're making the knights gay!!" - GM Alex Jones
@JL-CptAtom Does it also make people gay?
LMFAO!!!
@JL-CptAtom Frogs are becoming Pepes due to Trump.
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese
"Kyle" is behind September 11, 2001
"You beat me therefore you are cheating."
More like "you beat this guy so you must be cheating."
The french GM didn't accuse her...
Makes me remember a hilarous phrase
Since your opinion doesn't align with my own I have no choice but to accuse you of being homosexual. I'm sorry it had to come to this
"everyone above you on the scoreboard is a hacker
everyone below you sucks
thats the golden rule of any competetive game
"is it possible that this woman just studies chess a lot and has a lot of talent? no, there's no way. there must be nanomachines in her lip balm or some shit"
The real winner here is Anish Giri
in the name of caissa, he is.
YES^^
Lmao
LMAAO!!
waw
If you're accused of cheating but you're not cheating, isn't that a good thing? It means you're playing really well.
It is to a point, but if people just treat you like a criminal it is also extremely demoralizing.
According to the difference in their ratings, she should've had a 6% chance to win, 5% to draw, and 90% chance to lose. The fact that she won four games in a row against people rated that much higher than her is one in 160,000. That's phenomenally unlikely.
Strill X Guess the ratings were bullshit then. 🙂
I get really happy when people accuse me of cheating when I'm really not. The only bad thing is if you are excluded from playing a lot of games, and no one wants to play with you anymore :(
+Strill X
you posted this twice already. Get it through your thick fucking head: the numbers didn't matter.
I don’t play chess. There’s no chess related videos in my history, I have never came across it on RUclips.
Why the fuck has RUclips been recommending this to me for three weeks straight.
Great video btw
I started watching and eventually playing chess because RUclips started recommending me chess videos non stop. I started watching them and now I have played over 5000 chess games in the last 12 months. I have never played chess before
@@smrtfasizmu6161 I love the sound effects of online chess. "Cherk!" "Cherk!"
@@aegontargaryen1500 If you do them very fast it sounds like Minecraft haha!
They really just called "hax"
" lip balm engine " woow , everyone went Sherlock Holmes
I won against someone better than me.
Other people: cheating...
Reminds me of the time when the Russians accused Fischer of hiding some super technology in his chair that made him such a good player.
The origin of the gamming chair meme XD
lmao what? Was Fisher somehow always carrying his seat everywhere he went? xD
@@IrvingDaniel they were fucking around to save Spasky's face against the Soviet Union so he doesn't get badly punished after losing to Fischer, but didn't find anything in the end.
Don't forget the dead flies in the overhead lighting that fischer had spying for him.
@@davidblack2970 Today it would be a possibility!
Agadmator's favorite word pair after showing us the game
"So yah….. "
For the record, Stockfish 9, the world champion chess computer software, recommends a different move from the one that Ms. Rudolf played on the following occasions: moves 4, 5, 8, 9, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 45, 47, 48, 50, 51, 52, 53, 55, 57, 58, 59, 60, and 65. In other words, 33 of her 65 moves were not what Stockfish recommends. (Bear in mind that of the remaining 32 moves, plenty were forced: recapturing the rook, recapturing the queen, etc.)
An excellent game by Ms. Rudolf.
Bauer played a contemptuous opening, much as Carlsen did recently against Georgiadis at the Biel tournament. If you don't respect your oppponent, it can cost you.
If you want to do it right you should feed the game to the strongest engine at the time,... not that it would make any difference
if you want to cheat you are not going to use the best engine.
that would be soo dumb :D you can use engines like Rodent, Tucano or even less known. and as mentioned it was long time ago so there were no such thing as stockfish 9
"Ms. Rudolf". Just say Anna.
so...we need to check when Anna used her lip balm; between which moves... :D
Exactly!! Very nicely put 👍
The photo is Georgian women's grandmaster Sopiko Guramishvili!
Mihailov quoted Bauer as saying, “I lost a pawn in an ending that my opponent duly converted. We were in time trouble for the last 20 moves or so, and couldn’t leave the table. Although the position wasn’t too difficult at that point, Anna played it faultlessly.”
She went on a heater and the puss bois got mad lol.
'When she's using her lipstick she's not consulting a super computer, but just a maniac' haha. I bet the stress of being scrutinized so much made her last match needlessly more difficult for her. It's unfortunate but overall a great performance on Anna's part.
Giri s best move ever by far
Efe Engin caught himself a queen
someone else king captures on d1 😂
"Chess doesnt drive people mad - it keeps mad people sane" - Bill Hartston
brilliant quote
But then people lose and they get mad
theres no such thing as bad loser, only bad winner.
@@h0rk3dwhat do you call losers who instantly blame external factors instead of improving themselves
What are you taking about
The problem is that it only keeps people sane while they are playing.
I too became suspicious when I heard her lipbalm whisper "Nd7"
When I first saw this video, I had no clue who Anna Rudolf is, but I remembered the story. A year later, I come back and I realize that I now know Anna Rudolf (as a Pogchamps commentator)
Hmmm, her final opponent refused to shake her hand? I thought that was grounds for automatic loss? Was this game played before that game was introduced?
the restaurant’s piped music progressed beyond 'Santa Lucia' and 'O sole mio', and instead began playing the theme music from 'The Godfather'. At this moment, I caught Nigel’s eye, and said with mock solemnity, 'For justice, we must go to Don Corleone!'.
2018 version of shaking opponents hand is physically traveling and forming an active protest to an authority figure on your opponents behalf.
Chess players are always blaming loses on engine users especially if they lose to a young pretty girl that outplayed them.
Well the latter wouldn't be "always" there just isn't that many female chess players, good or bad. Anna played strong.
@@joshuahunter2825 you should then embrace strong female players. Not immediately accuse them.
@@jeltje50 I agree. I haven't lost to a girl, though Anna, would probably beat me.
Joshua Hunter probably lol
As a man I can verify this dude's ego got bruised bad! Hence the ridiculous accusations of cheating and lip balm computers.
just wondering how an engine in lip balm would work? I mean how do ya feed and then see the best moves?
In 2008? Please
i saw a system which analyses some black and white borders of cards in poker, maybe it has a cam and sees the figures and puts your move somewhere..everything is possible nowadays
Maybe some guy at home with an engine that feeds her Morse code #tinfoilhat
When the lipstick touches her lips, nano information is gathered from saliva she knead while rubbing her lips and forms the abbreviations of the moves. The lipstick engine than analyses the rubbed information, and when she moves it back again to her mouth, it transmits the information to her lips as a small layer, what later can be licked down slowly and transmitted to the receiver built in her 4th upper left tooth. ;)
I would guess if it were to be done it would be a communication device more than an engine. Yes it does seem truly ridiculous that the na was the engine because how would she enter the data, how would she get the data from it? That's why I would say he only way to do it would be with it being a communication device and she had an ear pieces or something but that is also really really far fetched. Is it really worth the effort??
I think sexism played a big part in this. The fragile male ego which Kasparov showed when Judit Polgar beat him. Gary was a real asshole that time. Go Anna!
"Why there aren't more women interested in chess? "
Have no men been accused?
@@Mike_Dubayou Someone above is saying some guy in the 70s got accused for hiding a supercomputer in his cigars. So, while I wouldn't be surprised if there's definitely a degree of sexism involved, I get the impression there's a mix of paranoia and big brain craziness going on here too.
@@VTBooBear I'll admit I perhaps want to believe that though.
"WHEN SHE IS USING LIPSTICK SHE ISNT CONSULTING HIGH END PC SHE IS JUST MANIAC" HAHHAHAHAH
Schizophrenia
@@mimszanadunstedt441 The other voices kinda have personalities form what I've heard. Would that be cheating... dun dun DUN
Hilarious recap of Anna's profile "if she pulls out her lipstick she is not consulting a super computer she's just a maniac"
There's no better feeling (in any sort of competition) than someone accusing you of cheating when you're not.
If she was able to create a such a balm with engine in it she'd be a billionaire. Ridiculous claims
How did this end up in my recommends?
I haven't played chess since I was 10 I'm 38.
Thank you RUclips. I'm glad this popped up. Very informative.
Agadmator was once asked in a interview if he would rather smash Guramishvilli or Ivanchuck and he calmly replied ivanchuck.
source?
Richard Blane. Concocted bullshit.
Lol yes I remember that interview.. That was funny
A car is the best place to hide an engine because it is totally expected there.
ah yes the spassky effect, the moment youve started losing the chair is bugged the light is bugged and the board is bugged.
you forgot that you also didn't get enough sleep, you were hungry, you were tired, you were seduced, you were hung over, and you were drugged, so you weren't able to concentrate.
@@water5000 you were playing with a usb steering wheel, you were blindfolded, it was your twin brother playing
Lip balm?? Everyone knows the best way to cheat with chess engine is in your eye drops.
This gentleman opened 1. b4 and followed up with 2. a3. Throughout many of the games, the players weren't playing top openings and Anna was clearly underrated. It's sad that pride gets in the way of congratulating others' accomplishments.
so easy to listen to this guys commentary--even as fast as he goes--he makes it so easy to follow---he gives out alot of good food for thought..........
Every competitive videogamer knows the feeling. You beat someone higher and it's either you cheating or the game's balance needs to be patched or both but it's never their own fault. Some people are pathetic like that. And it happens most often with _mediocre_ players who think too high of themselves. It's extremely rare that someone who _really_ knows the game and is a top tier player, would fall that low.
Its just competitive sexism in general it can't be that a woman is good it has to be that she's cheating
@@himlolo It has nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with sore losers.
@@godfreyofbouillon966 well denial is very harmful when it comes to issues like this. If it was a man guarantee there would be no controversy around him winning when the gm made a clear inaccuracy
@@himlolo Yes women attract more attention especially pretty ones so her case is more widely known than a million of sore loser cases involving men only throughout every game ever. Are you saying this is sexism against men? :D
@@godfreyofbouillon966 stay in denial if you want.
I experienced something similar in a 2on2 match in Counter Strike 1.6 at a live tournament many years ago. We won against 2 pros who would probably beat us in 9/10 matches. But underestimated us. After that, they came to our computers iwth the tournament director and for half an hour, they checked our computers for any proof of cheating.
Lol that must've felt good hahahahha
Lmao typical salty elitist fckers.. gh
That is pretty much the staple of video game players, "If I loose you must be cheating!"
CS has a bigger cheating problem than chess. There's so many ways to cheat undetected it almost undermines playing the game at all. So lot's of competitive players understandably get very paranoid over it.
You can't really blame them either, there's all sorts of weird private cheats that give you varying advantages. There's one i've heard of where your phone vibrates if you are near someone.
The fact that admins checked your computer and didn't come up with anything really proves nothing other than you weren't using amateur cheats. Which is why I don't play CS.
it's one thing to beat pros at good times like tournaments ... it's another for those same pros to get thier stats up by actually using the cheats they hate so much just so they dont have to work so hard to keep their status up
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yes cheats in games are a sign of poor sportsmanship or sense of fair play ... in other words sure signs of an upbringing that was lacking in being good and decent with a good set of moral values ......
"Anna Rudolf accused of cheating with an engine.." i thought of something very different..
Solution is very simple.
Organizers should use electronic devices detectors, and electronic communication signals jammers.
Also, no "fresh air", no toilet, no walks, no "face washing", no looking around, no leaving the table.
Broadcast should be 7 minutes delayed.
And that's it.
When I was a student, doing an important test - those were the rules.
You simply sit at your table, you don't look around, and you get up once you are finished.
Thats it - problem solved.
idk why i got this recommended to me,i don't even play chess or know the rules but i watched it anyways and i somewhat understood some stuff and had fun
definitely will go back to this when i ever decide to finally learn chess
cheers mate
RUclips knows u have a chess master title in you. Have u played chess since? Its been a year
I like how you show her twitter profile to casually show everyone she follows you. Great video.
This popped up in my recommendations. I've never watched an online a chess match before.
That they were fixated on her rating shows they underestimated her, and probably got more than a bit flustered when they realised their mistake during the games.
Bit of a poor show for the other players to accuse were without real proof. The lip balm accusation was just ridiculous. Was there any other evidence?
They threw her into a pond and she sunk. Clearly, she's a witch.
No
According to the difference in their ratings, she should've had a 6% chance to win, 5% to draw, and 90% chance to lose. The fact that she won four games in a row against people rated that much higher than her is one in 160,000. It's totally reasonable to be suspicious, given those odds.
@@Strill_ except those odds are not accurate because people can't be considered as a constant in any equation. If you ever improve you will be better than what is expected.
I agree 100%.
A chess engine in the lip balm? That’s some Bobby Fischer-level conspiracy theory there.
oldschoolwarrior That’s it; they saw the chance to emulate Fischer in that field at least.
Which one? His early accusations of the Russians colluding during the Candidates tournament have been verified 40+ years later. :-) But seriously, these clowns who accused her without evidence are, well, clowns.
Lol...true. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're wrong. I was referring to Fischer later in life where his antisemitism caused him to have outlandish conspiracy theories.
or maybe not
he was a jew after all he might know a thing or two about it
Doesn't really matter if it was a computer running a chess engine/database or an internet device or even a simple voice radio transceiver.
I honestly think the issue of a player cheating (or not) should have been determined and concluded (one way or the other) ten years ago. And that more effective cheat detection/inspection methods should be implemented moving forward. There's always controversies involving players caught cheating in any sport or competition where real prizes can be won, rules meant to prevent cheating are meaningless if they cannot be effectively enforced.
Photo Challenge: Mrs Giri?
Lol its Sopiko Guramishvili from Chess24
Crimson Spark, you are talking to the same person.
Someone sounds jealous...
Anna's friend ?
I've never understood why players are allowed to walk away from the board in the middle of a tournament match. Couldn't you technically get help from others (or even an engine) while away? Do officials keep an eye on you when you step away? I'm not saying she cheated, I'm speaking in generalities.
Technically, yes.
As for how you'd do it without raising some flags, I think that you'd have some trouble. Consider how it would look to play a meh game, walk away from the board during a critical position, come back, and make an optimal move. You'd probably have to do it repeatedly. So, you end up with a player whose apparent strength goes up by several hundred points for a move or two after they leave the board...
Maybe it's possible to do, but the amount of work that would go into doing it convincingly makes me think of a kid spending 10 hours to cheat on an exam that he could have passed if he spent three hours studying.
You'd also have to do it extensively over the course of many games to have a big impact on your tournament results, making it even easier to catch. And this assumes that you never get complacent and do something completely boneheaded to get caught.
If you've ever played over the board classical chess you'd know that this is a very common habit. Sitting in front of a board for hours on end makes it easier for some to concentrate, but harder for others. I always walk around during tournaments and look at other game or just pace by myself. Nothing unusual about that at all.
does seem absurd.
But a simple computer analysis of her moves will show you that most of her non-forced moves are not the computer recommendation. It is not hard to check this.
Simple computer analysis using programms 10 years more advanced showed that she didn't make the most optimal moves, considirable number of times.
^basically that means that she isn't utterly stupid girl with time travel device.
I paused it and spotted the knight to play check on F4 - and having been told "congratulations you are an excellent end game player" I now feel EPIC ! (I'm not a very good player really) : (
me neither, just shows that low ranked players (i literally sit at 500 like an idiot) can make top rank moves :)
"if you have a photo, you should definitely share it"
I've seen two knights and a king deliver a forced checkmate in a game between two GMs during a cadet's tournament at the Nashville Chess center many years ago. Justin Sarkar won the game. The losing player had a single pawn and a king. The winner took advantage of the fact that there was still a single pawn left on the losing side. He used his knights and king to block the progress of the pawn and force the king close to the passed pawn. Then after maneuvering the pieces, he unblocked the pawn causing a zugzwang situation in which the advance of the pawn was the only legal move, after which checkmate was unavoidable. The promoted pawn blocked a key escape square. It was one of the most beautiful chess endgames I ever saw played live.
how the hell is this photo challenge?!! you just said she is giri's wife!
Maximum of people cheat in photo challenge..so it doesn't matter ..I never like photo challenge cause nobody talks about game and if you see I have got many hearts talking about game or agadmatorand never for photo challenge.just enjoy the game and never complain
Anish Giri will never be taken seriously as he will always look 12
well you don't like the photo challenge, not others so to suggest we never complain about it and just enjoy the game is plain Dumb bc not everyone value things the way you do, you know that right?!
One can't believe she is married to Giri. That's the challenge.
the challenge is how can she manage to look at Giri's face for 2 seconds