Bether Than The Original || Harmon vs Borgov - Final Game || Netflix's Queen's Gambit
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Elizabeth Harmon vs Vasily Borgov
Netflix Series - The Queen's Gambit
Queen's Gambit Accepted, 3.e4 (D20)
1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e4 Nc6 4. Be3 Nf6 5. Nc3 e5 6. d5 Ne7 7. Bxc4 Ng6 8. f3 Bd6 9. Qd2 Bd7 10. Nge2 a6 11. Bb3 b5 12. a4 O-O 13. O-O Qe7 14. Rac1 Nh5 15. g3 h6 16. Bc2 Rab8 17. axb5 axb5 18. Ra1 Ra8 19. Bd3 Bb4 20. Rxa8 Rxa8 21. Qc2 Bc5 22. Nd1 Bd6 23. Nf2 Nhf4 24. Rc1 Qg5 25. Kh1 Qh5 26. Ng1 Nxd3 27. Nxd3 f5 28. Nc5 Bc8 29. Rf1 Ne7 30. Qd3 fxe4 31. fxe4 Qg6 32. Kg2 Kh7 33. Nf3 Ng8 34. Nh4 Qg4 35. Nf5 Nf6 36. h3 Qg6 37. Ne6 Ra4 38. b3 Rxe4 39. Nxd6 Bxe6 40. dxe6 cxd6 41. e7 d5 42. Bc5 Qe8 43. Qf3 Qc6 44. b4 Qe8 45. Qf5+ Kh8 46. Qxf6 gxf6 47. Rxf6 Qh5 48. Rf8+ Kg7 49. e8=Q Re2+ 50. Kf1 Qxh3+ 51. Kxe2 Qg2+ 52. Rf2 Qe4+ 53. Kd2
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In the actual show, the first few moves have been changed and are not the same as in this video, but it is irrelevant to the game and the conclusion so I did not include this. Hope you enjoy the game :)
wouldn't queen to G4 help protect his king though?
Thank you for recommending this series. I enjoyed it. :)
Nice game - Nice analysis. It shows that unfortunately great games that end in a draw aren't often remembered.
If she looks like on that picture, she could beat me in anything. Including wrestling.
yes we are interested in a full review of the games of the series
What Elizabeth was gambiting throughout that series was her liver.
Ups. Funny
Lol
She was employing the Fried Liver Attack
@@comradespoon3104 was literally hoping for this reply lmao
😂
I haven’t cried in years but when she took out that picture with Shaibel in the last episode that broke me
It was the bit where she saw all the photos in the basement that made me cry.
Yes true
He loved her like his own daughter...
@@markg3947 and she didnt even so see him!
I cried as well. He was watching with pride in the shadows :)
I tried staring at the ceiling at night and all I saw was my sleep paralysis demon
lol
LOL
Thanks for making me laugh
Lol
LMAOOO
Borgov: RA4
Magnus:” that shouldnt happen. He had a whole night to prepare for it.”
agadmator: “absolute best move”
*Ra4
Who is right?
@@glorifiedpaper4011 Daniel Klein
Vid of magnus saying this?
@@pitohui9430 search Magnus Carlsen analysis queen's gambit
I actually cried when Beth saw the pic with Shaibel
I cried when I read you comment about Shaibel
Me too.
I cried like a baby. That one hit way too close.
I wished she would later come see him.
Shaibel deserved so much more!
Literally just watched a whole Netflix series in preparation for this video.
8 hours of preparation LOL
Same lol
Thats the spirit!
Same here lolll
Were the series good?
"The Queen's Gambit" was a great series, and so was this video. As a casual chess player, I never imagined myself watching a 25-min. video on a specific game. But this vid was fascinating, clearly explained, very engaging, and gave me a broader appreciation of the show. Much appreciated.
I quite agree and feel there are scores of others thinking the same. Myself included.
Too many nubs after the show
Same
@@estolee5485 Are you really thinking that, or is it only for pleasing me?
@@estolee5485 I guessed :)
I loved the way the queen's pawn struggled across the board and became a queen. At times it was supported by other pieces and pawns. Seems to reflects Beth's progress in life. There can't be many games at this level where a pawn reaches the queening square!
Not only that, but also a queen sac first, symbolising her killing the "Beth" that is alcoholic and drug dependent, and then reborn as a new queen.
Nice takeaways, both of you!
the younger child actor who played Beth at 9 years age was just chillingly real and a great artist.
Agree!!
She was phenomenal
@Alejandro Herrera Barboza it's not meant to be nice
@Alejandro Herrera Barboza I thought it was a fantastic metaphor for today's youth and how prominent things like Adderall and Ritalin are with kids these days. I doubt that's what the show intended but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.
@Alejandro Herrera Barboza it wouldn't be real drugs, just the outer casings which is not the drug.
Everyone was super respectful in the show and acted like how real people would. It wasnt over dramatic and people wanted to help each other.
I never even watched the show but I agree
In Chess, sportsmanship is really important. I agree with your comment, it was nice to see that. Not childish tantrums thrown by dudes who lost to a woman.
love it. cant stand in movies and TV when there is so much manufactured conflict and drama, people are just assholes for no reason.
@@craigmeikle3818 exactly, the old veteran Russian was so respectful to her and kind of happy that he lost.
There was no pointless drama.
Yes! I loved this about the show. It felt so genuine.
It was just incredible when she looked at the ceiling in the end and doing her "magic" without the benzos. All the episodes up to that moment I was wondering if her chess skills were just some strange side-effect to the drugs. Awesome message
Ah Yes, the Well known side effect of drugs: you become a Chess super genius
@@nikolaiandre5751 some psychoactive substances can give you hallucinations or, at a lesser level, strong visualisation abilities. Secondly, they change the way and speed at which a person's mind works, and how different parts of the brain communicate. It's absolutely plausible that a person could be better at chess when they have taken something than when they are totally sober.
The drugs aren't real but what It does is it calms the person whoever intakes it and whoever gets an overdose can cause hallucinations and visualisations. But Beth could actually do that herself if she can be calm without the pills. Also that's actually what I thought but the drugs only helped her visualize the board it wasn't the drug doing the board effect but it was herself she just couldn't keep herself calm to be able to do it. And boi do I wish I could do that
@@jebbishop3 Huh? there doesn't need to be cases, i've explained the mechanism. It's a fact that some substances give you hallucinations or at least strong visualisation abilities. It's also a fact that some substances change the way and speed at which your mind works. Neither of those are disputable. There may be a debate to be had as to whether the specific sedatives used in the show would have those effects, but there's no question that some substances do have those effects.
Regardless, I did find someone talking about their experiences playing chess on different substances: www.chess.com/forum/view/general/this-is-how-different-drugs-affect-my-play
And a study showing that some substances make you better at chess: en.chessbase.com/post/proven-performance-enhancing-drugs-for-chess
To reply to this thread; every drug can in fact be a performance enhancing drug, the pills they used in the show did not exist but they did point out later that those pills were actually a type of a benzodiazepine. Now I have first hand experience with *sharpening* my mind with opaites+benzos (don't do them anymore, but if i was to, i do absolutely know how to use them as tools). Now perhaps the most unbelievable thing in the series is the fact that she had been taking these substances for a prolonged period of time and then just stopped with no extreme or even minor withdrawal symptoms more so, she managed to keep playing chess the same if not better. In reality this could never happen, but then again the whole thing is a work of fiction. And one more thing, you can use different substances to CLEAR and SHARPEN your mind if you know how to dose and you know how your body and mind reacts to these substances, what really kind of bothered me is when she said that her mind needs to be clouded.. because certainly, you will cloud your mind if you take a dose that will just make you absolutely fucked up, but if you want to cloud your mind you can easily do it without drugs just by thinking about all of your insecurities and anxieties :)
That being said, if you have never tried any psychoactive substances, you're better off keeping it that way, either way, it's not worth it, even if, for example you use some drug so you can study better or do exams easier or engage in anything mentally challenging.. it's not worth it, sooner or later you will have to make a decision; do i continue using for the rest of my life, which will result in an earlier death (among many other horrible factors) or do i stop, which will result in you possibly succeeding or not (either way it will take a lot of time to get off), or do i stop living. Be careful.
I loved how Shaibel knew she was gifted and sought out the guy to share her brilliance. He was a quiet spirit but had a powerful presence.
I also was a bit scolding when he told her to resign if she loses her queen, where GM Ben Finegold might tell most beginners never to resign because that's the only way to guarantee your own loss, but Shaibel was very cognizant of the places she was going in the chess world and knew he ought to teach her to play respectfully at a high level rather than immaturely dragging a forgone game out longer than necessary.
Goosebumps
She only won because she downloaded stockfish on the ceiling in the middle of the game.
Channeling that Hikaru energy
She only won because it said so in the movie script...
@@cinegraphics she won because the writer needed to convey that she was struggling with substance abuse as a means to improve her play, which is a completely fine complication to come about a slice of life style series, this complication had been set up since the start of the show.
@@cinegraphics Sorry about this reply, I literally just woke up, I thought this was the starting game between her and beltik at the kentucky opening, didnt even see that dudes face right
until now, i'm surprised she had sex with beltik
Sheibel, being an avid chess fan probably followed her career and tourneys. His $10 dollars got her winning the Kentucky State Championship. He died knowing his protege was world class chess player.
And $10 out of pocket :(
rip mr sheibel
he gave her $5. she promised him $10 in return after winning.
@@nishalnandwani im sure she donated to his estate
@@nishalnandwani Right !
1. Bobby Fischer's game 6 opening vs Spassky in World Final 1972
2. Mikhail Tal's knight sacrifice against Botvinik in World Final
3. Rashid's queen sacrifice considered to be one of the greatest moves in chess history
4. Spassky's applause for Fischer's masterpiece in game 6, world final 1972
queen sacrifice on f6 thank you!
WHO ARE YOU?
@@Sidguru101 Your worst nightmare...?
5. My queen sacrifice when i was up 3 queens only to still get a stalemate
Thanks!!!
This show is a great example of how working with experts on the topic improves the show. Wish we'd see more about that. For example, working with HEMA experts when making a movie/show where there are fight scenes set in medieval europe.
The show's also a great example of appealing to a wide audience on so many different levels. I was fascinated by this game analysis but had no idea real games or strategies were even being shown while enjoying the series. I'd watch it again just to see this type of play by play analysis after each episode.
R.I.P Shaibel, he lived a good life. Even real men cried when they saw that board.
I really hoped she would at least visited him just once before he died, just to take one more picture of the two of them together.
@@Tommyknocker46 I remember reading the novel (many moons ago, when I was much closer to Beth's age than I am now :) and feeling the biggest gut-punch when he died without Beth ever going back to visit.
Damn. I thought I was the only one. I even told my girlfriend I cried during the end of the series. She stil has 2 more episodes left to watch. Best thing is we play chess together though.
I confess....I cried a bit 😢
2nd time i cried on a movie 😭. 1st is the movie hachiko
It's such a bizarre experience as a noob to understand everything that is happening in this video while simultaneously knowing absolutely nothing that is happening in this video.
Lol
that's why its so nice to have highly knowledgeable people explain things :)
same feeling...and it's great :))
Yeah the movement of the pieces is quite easy to understand as well as how check mate works, but reading the game is the difficult thing. Its an insanely difficult game but still pretty easy to follow as a noob, weird lol
Indeed the possible future moves arent available for us until been laid down.
I'd played chess in the past, but this show inspired me to really get into it, and learn actual openings and more about general chess strategy. I never would have thought I'd become this appreciative of how beautiful this game is.
A few of my friends have gotten into it again after years without playing, and I am doing the same thing! I'd never really learned anything about openings before, but I love how the show hinted at what you should do if want to learn from scratch so that anyone can get into the game.
Same, long edit:
I was on the swim team, tennis captain and seed 1 at my high school, but once I got to college, man all sport and chess were lost to me. And now that I'm an accountant (5 years), I hardly ever play anything, except maybe the guitar and playstation if that counts as a legitimate hobby... sometimes, I just day dream about playing golf in the beautiful lawn courts near the office building (with all the retired rich folk), I think this day dreaming is what started it all: golfing, painting, writing, playing guitar again and tennis (I swim at the gym, it's the least punishing exercise)... chess was just totally forgotten hey, like just missing in this 2021 hobby equation. Downloaded a chess game on the AppStore and started brushing up after watching The Queen's Gambit.
And now here I am, watching videos in a corner of RUclips I never knew exists! Lol 😂
Another thing is covid has restricted many of these hobbies so I guess it's a great time to play chess again. 👑
The most powerful game in the series is Beth's game against Luchenko. He shows gracious respect for her, and joy at his own defeat. After the game, Beth tells him she has always studied his games. Luchenko says he may have just played the best chess player in his life, and asks how old she is; Beth starts to say "Twenty ..(something)", but Luchenko stops her and says "Don't say it. It will only drive the stake deeper into my heart. He then bows to her graciously, and smiling. This, from the Luchenko who had played the great Alexander Alekhine to a draw.
Shaibel was so proud of her..he even made a board dedicated to her. 😭😭😭😭
Shame she didn't pay him back :)
@@JarutheDamaja He didn’t care about the money, he cared about chess and Elizabeth.
She felt guilty not because of the money, but that she never showed him real gratitude for teaching her and propelling her into what her life became.
@@JarutheDamaja I really thought it was implied that she paid him back. LOL A single call from her would have probably made his day.
I hated the Elizabeth character. She had a rough childhood but she only cared about herself.
@@0xf7c8 Why do you think? The sole person sworn to protect her betrayed her trust, tried to kill her and abandoned her. Of course she had trouble caring for others when she has such trust issues. I feel bad for you if you fail to understand human nature so poorly. The dots aren’t hard to connect.
what I liked about this series was the fact that you didn't even have to understand chess to enjoy it. This series was about a young girl's life and how she overcame her personal demons.
@@justVontadeh lol. Imagine disregarding a subjective interpretation, when a single sentence doesn't include everything at issue from an art piece with a 7 hour runtime, when your interpretations are not even mutually exclusive, or yours that much more elaborative...
she was a character with absolutely no faults. no character arch. they threw in a drug subplot but still she has no character faults.
@@brassattacks2411 that’s absolutely not true lol
@@AlanSanchez-tv2mj Oh this show is a gas! Too fun, I was in stitches. My absolute favorite scene was when she's in the park playing the lightning-fast timed games. her opponent tries to share a helpful piece of advice with her, which she of course gets offended by, and suddenly her anger enables her to start winning all of the lightning fast games. The power of anger! Lol for a show that wanted to portray men as antagonistic ("Men will try to teach you things!"), we get one very passive aggressive antisocial competitor in this fictitious lady, scene after scene.
@@brassattacks2411 Imagine misinterpreting it this much... Half the advice her mother gave her turned out to cause her damage. For example, "men will try to teach you things". Well in the end she understood that she needed all the help she could get and was eager to accept it. Hell, she won because she trained with the guys in NY and later her male friends helped her to analyze the positions over the phone. Stop seeing agendas everywhere.
Never played chess, then watched Queens gambit and now I absolutely love chess
same im addicted to chess now haha.
I wanna be like Beth Harmon when I grow up
Same!
@@badcornflakes6374 you won’t
Congratulations, friend!
I've been to many chess tournaments when I was young and it was amazing to see how perfectly they captured the spirit of competitive chess. Amazing show
I play in pinball tournaments and it’s very much the same in almost every way
@@Dmarcoot I did not know there are pinball tournaments
@@Dmarcoot fencing tournaments too. But a lot quieter
Ditto.
@@Apokalypse456 you need help lifting up that rock you live under?
This series is so successful that a second series would spoil it.
Well, the series was based on a book, and for a second series there would be no book to back it up. I think they're smarter than to try to recreate Season 8 of Game of Thrones 😂
i think its a limited series, theres only one season
Nope, no need for a second series or continuation. Maybe a new chess series
But what about the secret message Borgov was supposedly going to give to Harmon (said by the American bodyguard on the plane), I think they have left it open to a continuation especially as she chose to get out of the car at the very end, potentially for reasons other than to simply go for a walk?
@@casastrophicmedia4056 The bodyguard said they MIGHT try to give her a message, but it's just government agents doing what they do best: be paranoid. Borgov does give her his black queen piece along with the handshake after the match, but there is no reason to believe it contains any kind of message. It was just a gesture of respect and admiration.
She chose to get out of the car because she couldn't stand the bodyguard's diatribe of how she "beat the soviets at their own game". Chess is a game for everyone and which belongs to everyone, not to the "soviets". At the end we see that she sat down to play chess with random people (the old men at the square) for fun. We see that she has learned to love chess for its own sake.
I am now 70 years old, in my youth I played chess intensively, then not for a long time. I watched this series by chance. It's one of the best films of my life. Everything is right, the actors, the chess, the perfect scenery. It's a very empathic and emotional film in the best sense of the word. Plus a very enlightened film. Nearly perfect! I started chess again as old Mr Shaibel!
That's wonderful. Maybe you will find yourself a young protégé.
I’ve played for decades and then grew disillusioned with it. No chess prodigy I. But this series perfectly captured the life of a chess player. Elizabeth fits the mould perfectly because although she is super star stylish compared to the nerds, she’s every bit as much bitten by chess as I was back in the day. It is totally credible. The photography is great, the chess conversation is real, the music is perfect, the entire series is as close to being perfect as any tv I’ve ever seen.
Go back to playing, find yourself someone to inspire ;-)
did u enjoy the sex scenes?
@@howardtreesong4860 I had this thougth when at one point Beltek gives up on her saying "I am not that smart". It must be cool to be a super talent without years of hard work but many of us can relate more to working decades to acquire a skill and still having to resign in front of these superminds. That would also worth a movie, how to deal with the fact that sometimes even if you dream big and work hard for it, you may be denied and you still have to carry on somehow.
@@koborkutya7338 You raise a good point. There’s a couple of things here. On the one hand you see the stars, in whatever field, excel at what they do. What you don’t see is the years of slogging it out, the frustration, the failures. It’s very much about perseverance. Michael Jordan once made a Nike commercial in which he sums up his failures. It’s those failures that gave him the determination to carry on regardless and become the champion that he was.
On the other hand, much though it’s painful for some: there is the factor of raw, innate talent. Combined with the willingness to improve through hard work, that will find a superior expression, and it’s going to be on a level that most people can’t. Today you can learn about General Relativity in school, that doesn’t make you an Einstein-level genius that can come up with the theory (because it’s pretty freaking hard to wrap your head around if you’ve never heard about it) and prove it. Those are different things.
To come back to you: how does a non-genius cope with the idea that they’ll never be a master-level chess player, or famous in another field where it’s the talent that makes the difference? It is the understanding that there’s more to life than just that one thing. You can be contributing to your community. You can be the rock of the family, the person everybody goes to for help and support. You can be a mentor to a kid who turns out to be a great (you name it), who later reflects on you as a positive force in their life who directed them towards the higher goal.
Most people, I’m really thinking everyone, has the potential to excel in something they do. And be at peace with the fact that what they do is something they’re really good at and which contributes, in whatever form it takes, to the lives of others.
We’re a social species. If we can contribute positively to the lives of others, that’s a life well-lived.
i watched this without knowing how to play chess and my brain hurts so bad
Lol
That is a strange idea. The point of chess is that it is incredibly easy to learn. There are a number of moves but there’s not that many rules. It shouldn’t take you more than an hour to learn how the moves work. There are also no unknowns, that is the total mesmerising beauty of the game: everything is on the board, no hanky panky, no luck factor, no hidden pieces. It’s all right there. What chess is, next to being real easy to learn, it is exceptionally hard to master, even on a grandmaster level.
You would have all the tools you needed to play a regular game against a grandmaster and not make mistakes against the rules inside of an hour. You would never beat them if you didn’t put in some serious studying and had that talent.
I have played many girls and women (I started age 12), I have never accepted the idea that ‘women can’t play chess’. That’s just nonsense. There is no reason why you wouldn’t be a fine chess player (not grandmaster level) if you put your mind to it.
People who don’t understand the game don’t appreciate how brutal and aggressive it is. You have to sit down at a board for some time to get a feel for the stone cold murderous violence that is taking place.
@@howardtreesong4860 The doctrine of “take no prisoners” is always in full-effect🤨. But the “unknowns” can best be described in the case of pre- Deep Blue computing power of the mid to late ‘80s, wherein the designated computer of the day would take (if playing White’s opening gambit) 6,000,000 million years to work through the permutations allowing for, presumably, e4... since e4 is “Best by test”... -Fischer 🤔😇).
-J
Neo: do you take the blue pill or red pill?
78 people: I'll take the green pill
Where I live Chess sets are completely sold out. Along with SpongeBob toys. Says much about 2020.
I cant even remember when I saw a chess set in a store
Lmaoooo
why are spongebob toys sold ?
@@thatsnotmyname6677 new spongebob movie i think
You can buy it online
I'll come back to this video after I watch the series to avoid some nasty discoveries
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Must watch👍🏻
did they connect the rooks?
@@LeventK with all of them
No-one:
Modern Cars: 15:50
amazing
Chapeau.
genius
thats literally so clever wtf
@@emilwallin1176 great minds think alike ;D
Agadmator: "I'm not going to spoil the way game was analysed after adjournment for those who didn't see the show"
Also agadmator: "So this way Elizabeth Harmon beats the world champion..."
Pretty lol. Anyone that clicked on a video that had ‘final game’ in its title who got spoiled. Try again xD
I think he didn't want to spoil the more, yk, non-chess parts. Like how Benny called her and analysed the game and stuff.
But it was predictable.
This series is the best thing Netflix have ever done - I was hooked and binge watched the entire series - now to learn how to play Chess
Same honestly didn’t know what I was clicking when I picked it and was hooked the first 15 minutes definetly broke out the old chess board afterwards
@William Banda not 100% sure but I think that’s what they were kinda going for, regardless who played the character I think the idea was to kind of love/hate her because of how good she was at chess and getting fucked up. Idk for sure I enjoyed the character and the actress
@William Banda You do realize an "Actor" is quite literally acting right? Everyone behaves a certain way according to the script
As a chess player I agree this is the best show I’ve ever seen on Netflix
Amazing acting! Amazing music! Amazing directing! 100/100 show had me in tears in the end powerful show
Knight f4 - tal vs botvinnik world chess championship 1960 game 6
Queen sacrifice- nezhmetdinov vs chernikov
Applause for elizabeth- Boris spassky
And Fischer Vs Spassky when Fischer played 1. C4 instead of his usual E4 in their notable world championship match that transposed into the Queens Gambit
Congratulations your vast knowledge just increased! 100 points for you
Someone has been spending a lot of time accumulating vast knowledge...
@@ayushgupta0010 Not a hundred percent sure, but I think that could've been a Nakamura game, although like you, I recalled another f6 queen sacrifice besides Nezhmetdinov's.
woah I had just watched both "storm of the century" 1960 game and fischer spassky "the applause" games two days ago 10/23
The series was a treat, but it was made even better by admagator - his channel is unmatched ... a true gem! The creativity of my play has been unleashed by his insightful analysis of classic and modern games. Kudos! A minor but very personal footnote: my father, Dr. Fred R. Payne is the historical figure of Harry Beltik, as he was the youngest Kentucky state chess champion at age 20 in 1951. A USAF fighter pilot instructor and later an aerospace engineer, educator and computational physicist, my father taught all three of his sons to play chess before age five. He also taught most of the local primary school kids back then, but my brothers and I were the scourge of Fort Worth TX for a decade. Lessons learned over the board proved essential to our careers in medicine-biophysics, abstract mathematics and wartime tank command/criminal investigation. My highest esteem to Mr. Redic for his commitment to the bountiful traditions of chess!!
Two of my favorite moments were when the late-arriving Harry said, I can get out of this. She replies, maybe, if you were on time, and Townes, "Harmon, you're humiliating my rook".
know loved that the movie showed the warmth of the Russian people to an American champion.
It reminds me of how they loved the American pianist Van Cliburn when he won first place in a piano competition in Moscow, in 1958, during the Cold War. Which reminds us that our gripe, if we have a gripe, is not with the people of Russia or China or the United States, but with their Governments.
yeah i was there with a student exchange, a poor part of russia but the people there were really hospitable and so much nicer than the cold people they're ofter portrayed as. not everyone is, and i experienced that too, but people are still people, no matter where you go
I wholeheartedly agree with your comments. I was lucky enough to visit China about 5 years ago and couldn’t agree more. The people were kind and generous. As an American I would love to visit there again as well as Russia. To hell with politics!
The people of modern china or the USSR overwhelmingly support/supported their governments. Please consider if you've been deceived by about a century of inti-communist propaganda and the reality is much more nuanced than you've led to believe.
@@user-zf9wq9gn6e Hi, speaking from my personal experience, people are basically all the same no matter where they live. That’s why, the original comment has to be seen outside of the geo-political realm. Again, only an opinion... peace. ✌️
Also reminded me of the Russians cheering for Rocky in Rocky 4
Townes: shit he isnt doing what he is supposed to. Its literally me every time i learn an opening or trap
LMAOOOOO same, and then I get destabilized the whole game
Should Odell Beckham Jr. Stay with the Browns?
facts
That’s beginners trying to use the four move checkmate
@@jys5219 i think your in the wrong place
The entire show had people showing much appreciation of Beth's talent and how well she played but this video helped me see the brilliance myself!
22:58 The Russian champion that Agadmator was talking about is Boris Spassky who lost game 6 to Bobby Fischer for the world chess championship and then Boris gave an standing ovation to Bobby as a respect because game 6 was truly a masterpiece and for Boris who dedicated his whole life to chess, to play such game even when you are losing, well enjoying the thrill is all that matters. Pls do check game 6 of Bobby vs Boris world chess championship
I’ll definitely look for the game with such great review I like Fischer’s games from what I’ve seen of them kind of new to watching Grandmaster games couple months now but I always enjoy watching the great skill they play with and the brilliant moves they come up with it
12:03 It is as of move 37, that we have a completely new game.
Completely new *fictional* game :)
Still theory.
That’s a famous move in a go match between a computer and a world champion
Really beautiful. But one thing in your reconstruction. You went with Borgov accepting the Queen's Gambit, but in the series, the commentator mentioned that Borgov had declined it.
I think, they actually played the Albin CounterGambit with 2. ...e5 and Elisabeth replies with the crazy 3. e4 as far as I remember, which makes the game wild from the very beginning.
They did not play a QGA.
This mini-series was immensely fun to watch, and seeing this makes me admire the effort put into it more, and I love the events that were based on actual things that happened. This video should be official bonus material with the show. Thanks a lot. I'm not a Chess player, but I occasionally watch your channel and it's always insightful.
Based on actual things that happened? But it's not.
@@petyaes17 I'm referring to the chess match moves, and the stand ovation. I understand these are different people and the characters here are totally fictional. But they borrowed from real life events.
@@petyaes17 many aspects of the story are based on real events. It's a little exaggerated but not much
@@reservoirfrogs2177 when it comes to her career I do think it's pretty exaggerated, not only because she's a woman (I'm not trying to be sexist, but it's a fact that there is a considerable difference between women and men when it comes to chess), but also because of her trajectory which seemed so easy and quick, it would take a HUGE effort to reach that kind of level.
@@petyaes17 bro it's just good stop capping
Everybody's a gangsta
until Beth sees Chess pieces on the ceiling
everybody gangsta ‘till Beth takes enough pills to kill an elephant from an overdose
while sober
@@okyeahbutwhythoe1804 She was stone cold so we during the Russian tournament.
LMAO yes
Well if i learned anything is that am gonna give my kids drugs
“If you have 8 hours free”... spoken from a true RUclipsr...
😂😂
hahaha
Well I had lmao. Watched the whole series as a preparation for this game. Little bit bored while infected with the virus...
me, an undergraduate: of course I have 8 hours free
my deadlines in 5 days: interesting
I think there is another meaning to the title "Queen's Gambit". Elizabeth was the Queen. As she progressed in her ability and moving up in competition, she focused on herself. She actively avoided people and only occasionally accepted any coaching. The Gambit was sacrificing her isolation to accept the help of a team of people who gamed out the moves for the last game. Yes, there was one they hadn't gamed. She had to focus on the chessboard in the ceiling, without the drugs, and see the way out of the trap and how to win. She showed a lot of emotion at the end. Gratitude and comradery with the group who helped her. They were her friends before she became theirs. And her last game in the park was full circle in a way. A game with an old man, an amateur, for fun. So her gambit won. She sacrificed her "queen", and became a healthier human in doing so.
Aside from that thought, I really enjoyed the sportsmanship of most of the Russian players when they lost. They gave her a good lesson there, that the game had more to it than just winning. You could appreciate a brilliant move, a brilliant game by your opponent. There is a quote I love (not from the series), "I never lose. I win, or I learn." It starts off sounding arrogant, but it is a really good attitude to losing. If you approach every loss as a learning opportunity that makes you better the next time, it isn't losing. It's a strength. I think they exhibited that quote as a counterpoint to her anger whenever she lost. Her anger made it truly a loss, not a lesson for learning.
Interesting thought.
Yeah I didn’t read that but good job
beautiful
Beautifully said
Every grandmaster has seconds. That’s how it works. The real talent is having her kind of ability and that’s not something you get from a book. What you get from a book is to expand on the innate talent you have. A grandmaster-level potential who doesn’t study won’t become a grandmaster, at the same time an ordinary player, no matter how hard they study, will ever reach grandmaster level. At the board you can’t read books to find moves, at the board it’s the grandmaster who wins, that’s what they’re a grandmaster for.
It’s also true that your opponent can be gracious in loss but that’s not always the case. Chess is not a game for people who can’t stand losing, because they will be doing a lot of that. A great deal of losing, it comes with the terrain.
16:20 is when borgov moves the piece that Beth and her team didn't predict
0:00 Hello everyone
0:58 Spoiler alert
1:29 1:48 Without further ado
2:27 4:41 Double attack
3:27 Castles castles
3:48 Bust open the position
4:51 6:16 14:29 20:08 Captures captures 13:46 Not captures, without captures
5:49 Bonus question
9:09 Improving the position of the king
9:43 Very interesting position
12:06 (Completely new game)
13:05 Completely crazy position
16:53 Staring at the ceiling
19:28 Completely blunders the game
20:28 Give you a couple of seconds
20:40 Enjoy the show
22:42 It was in this position
24:09 Chess historian on Twitter
25:33 Morphy saga
@Luiz Gonçalves Haha nice, and yes I slept a long time today, sorry about that
Lmao the double "without further ado"
AGAD: who stares at the ceiling more than Vassily Ivanchuk.
HIKARU: am I a joke to you?
Seeing this retarded format of "jokes" makes me wanna puke.
@@ms_gk I suggest not to hold on to it man, it's not considered healthy.
@@ms_gk Family Guy: who wants chowder?
BaMbOoZlEd
@@ryanflanagan9624 lol u gay
Brilliant video! I love how you stopped at various points and showed alternative outcomes, that knight & Queen Checkmate at 7:52 just wow!
Elizabeth Harmon is like finding her own path, and her chess as a vehicle to navigate the map and find out her identity
Except she didn't really need to find it... everything came to her automatically. I didn't really find the development of her life very relatable. The black orphan was a much more grounded example for real life.
@@tyrayentali7041 Her identity did not come to her automatically, she had an immense talent for chess from a young age but she spent decades trying to find herself and cope with what she's been through
The way Agad presents Chess is incredible.
In a radio interview to "Echo of Moscow" Kasparov said that he designed all the chess games for this Netflix series. So there you go.
No better person. The best player ever might know what he's doing.
You are correct. The other consultant in the series was Bruce Pandofini.
If only they would hire a field professional for each series.
24:44
@@shmadmanuts this is true
This is amazing. I had tears in my eyes watching the show about 30 minutes ago and just got done playing along with your analysis at my desk.
The movie was a great departure from the run of the mill stuff of Hollywood. Although a few things chess buffs will scream foul, just overlook them and let yourself be entertained for a few hours. It was a really nicely done series and tweaked lots of emotions in the process. The acting was spot on!
"one diagonal, one straight" - how perspective changes everything
I was like “what a weird way to describe an L”
I heard that the first time and I were like, huh? And then I thought about it and I was like, wait a fucking second...
That's how I do 🤷♂️
I noticed this too! Truly amazing when I realized that there's another way to see it :)
@@freeshavaacadooo1095 thing is, it is one diagonal and one straight away from the departure point...
I feel a bit dissapoint when i realize that the girl never exist in the real life. I was search her biography in wikipedia as foolish lol
read about the Polgar sisters. They are not any less interesting!
I was the same. I really thought it was a true story
@@TheRybka30 Fischer
He would spend long nights romancing the chess board and caressing it, courting the board and its pieces ~ black et blanc
Fischer was the real Beth Harmon, not PC enough though. Netflix needs to replace him with some edgy teen and her racist black friend.
Finally watched the series and returned here for the post-game analysis as an excellent subscriber. Thank you agadmator!
Explains the entire ending, "I don't want to give away too much". xD haha great vid as usual, thank you for the time you put into presenting many classics for us.
Fascinating! I didn't realize they were playing "actual" games. Just thought they were moving pieces at random to make it "look" like they were playing. Makes me appreciate the series that much more.
The sequences where they play through variations on a move to forecast its consequences several moves out is awesome.
Garry Kasparov was a consultant on the series, he helped create the games ;)
@@goodial ahhh, perfect. I was wondering this whole time how the games were constructed. I noticed a bit of the time the moves were accurate so I appreciated that aspect. Just wasn't sure how advanced the moves would be for the show.
not really actual, based on actual games but was redesign by the great kasparov
@@ardinhajihil5011 : It boggles my mind to think that a chess game can be "redesigned"...!
The show provides an excellent jumping off point for those interested in how someone becomes a chess "master". Researchers who study how people acquire skill in some area have focussed a lot of their study on chess. It's not so much that chess demands more thought than, say, neurosurgery or sub-atomic physics or public policy or even baking, but it is easier and more straightforward to rank chess players than it is to rank surgeons, nuclear physicists, policy advisors, or chefs. The internationally-recognized ranking system allows researchers to compare players with *this* range of rankings against players with *that* or some other level of rankings, and examine what it is that each group/level does or doesn't do when they think through a game, how long they have been at it, and so on.
Beth's singular focus on chess, and particularly her imagining boards/games on the ceiling, while lying in bed, are realistic. Maybe not in the way they are depicted cinematically, but in the manner that she mentally engages in games off-line. This is quite typical of people who develop expert skill in some field, whether it is chess or a musical/mathematical savant of the "Rain man" variety. Their actual participation in the activity, and how much time they have spent doing so, is certainly important, but the constant going over alternatives in their mind, is equally important. It could be a more efficient cut in surgery, the missed rebound at the net in a hockey game, or it could be "the note I should have played" during a rock guitar solo. All are features of people who acquire expertise in some narrowly circumscribed area, including chess. Of course, since we can't see what is going on in their heads, when they're not engaged in the activity they are expert in, we come to the mistaken conclusion that it is somehow instinctive and innate for them; a "gift". It's not. We know that it is the product of thousands of hours of dedicated study and thought. "But I've put in thousands of hours too, and I'm not nearly that good, so it *must* be a gift hardwired into their brain." Nope. The time invested certainly *matters* but a big part of it is what experiences occur in what order, such that the learner's knowledge about the area becomes well organized and interconnected. In Beth's case, she had many tutors, starting with the janitor Mr. Shaibel, and continuing with the other players, not to mention the books, who piled "a-ha" moments one atop the other. It's the rapid access to relevant knowledge, and the ability to quickly separate the relevant from the irrelevant that makes the difference. In that respect, there is nothing different between what Beth or Benny's characters do when playing "speed chess", and what a hockey or basketball player does when approaching the net and assessing what pass and to whom will take advantage of an emerging opening, all with a few tenths of a second.
One of the godfathers in the study of expertise, K. Anders Ericsson, passed away earlier this spring. If you find the study of experts and chess experts interesting, look up his work.
wow thanks for sharing would definitely look at the works of Mr.Ericsson
I could tell you've sat on this question and concept for quite a while.
Thank you for this comment
@@argandzero0 Yup. I've been an observer of the research on expertise for some 30 years or so, and often had to disabuse students of the idea of "innate talent" in my courses, when I covered the area of skill acquisition.
One of the classic studies in cognitive psychology was a 1966 memory study of chess experts and novices by Groot. When tested for their delayed recall of chess-piece positions on a board, chess experts wiped the floor with chess novices. But that advantage was NOT reflective of some sort of better memory in general. The advantage only held for *games interrupted in progress* and not randomly-placed pieces. Unlike the novices, who were obliged to remember "the white horsey thing was X spaces in, the castle-tower thing was over there, and the black salt-shaker-looking piece was over there...", chess experts simply had to store the image as the "1958 Hungadunga-vs-Schlitz opening gambit", and that would allow them to mentally reconstruct the board in all its detail. In effect, their expertise/knowledge made the memorization task *simpler* for them, hence their better performance. When the pieces were randomly placed, however, there was no measurable difference in memory between experts and novices.
The late Anders Ericsson has a nice short summary article on the phenomenon on the Florida State psychology department website, for those interested: psy.fsu.edu/faculty/ericssonk/ericsson.mem.exp.html
As much as I was pleased to see the series "make chess sexy again", I was equally pleased to see the manner in which it drew attention to just how someone becomes really skilled at something. It's a fascinating topic, whether it's about chess, juggling, videogames, or baking.
@@markhammer643 Thank you, I'll look into that which you've provided into further detail, but my confusion only lies in whether, those novices could potentially perform on the level of a said "early prodigy".
This is one of the most ferocious and exciting games I have ever seen. Huge respect to the team who managed to design such an insanely tense game!
Excellent video. Thank you! 🤠. Definitely interested in more on Queen’s Gambit.
I cried a lot during this series. I am adopted and did live in an Romanian orphanage until I was 5 (which was old then). Really connected to this series because I made a friend who is 68 his name is Tito he lives 4 doors next door. I am now 26 and was moved by this film. Also I am currently playing a guy at chess online from the Czech Republic :)
Bună! I am also romanian and i'm sorry about your past, i'm sure it made you stronger than ever. ❤️
Hey Al, you probably had a really tough childhood and the connection with the movie must have been strong and compelling. I felt really moved, too. But hopefully you're having much better life now and enjoying the games with your friend from my country. Greetings from Czechia to Romania;)
@@irelandwalks3376 > "I -live- have been living in Ireland -from- since the age of five"
- Adûnâi
i too am strongly drawn to orphan lead characters! there's really not a lot out there who are adults! this is quite accurate as she was quite old when her mother died and probably have solidified her personality already!
@@angamaitesangahyando685 Great. Do you think you well become Ireland's second Grandmaster?
It’s 3am, I’m not a Chess player and I watched this whole video 😂
Same
It’s the best series I’ve ever watched. The casting was perfect !
"And who stares at the ceiling more than Vasily Ivanchuk"
Hikaru: am I a joke to you?
yes, but hikaru only looks at the ceiling because he has stockfish up there
@@toniokettner4821 thats the joke
@@genericusername4206 bro i went with the joke. hikaru obviously doesn't have stockfish on his ceiling, but Beth Harmon does.
nailed it :D
8 billion people with different cultures and systems, they are not same
What a game man! Watched it over again after a year. Astonishing!
I've never had the patience or talent for the game, but I follow it from time to time when a movie or a show like this pops up. Of all the explainers on RUclips, I can follow your videos the best. Thank you.
To be honest, as a Chess enthusiast, I find this show a great opportunity to make Chess more popular as it also shows why you should also think about life decisions.
@ducK Strongly disagree. I personally find many parallels between chess and real life
@ducK Why can't it be both? The fact that life is more complicated than chess doesn't cancel the fact that there are still parallels between them
@ducK well personally I've found that after getting into chess over the past year I find myself evaluating decisions I make in a similar manner to how I evaluate moves in games. I'm turning 20 next year so maybe that's just my brain developing, but I find myself thinking about different choices I'm faced with similar to how I think about moves in Chess positions, thinking of different consequences like variations of a certain line. I know that probably sounds super pretentious but that genuinely has been my experience.
@@koyaaanisquatsi chess is a board game
@@deftrascal1626 sorry dude, as much as I wish that were true, the science shows that it's just not true. scientifically, getting better at chess only helps you with chess.
Take notes "Artemis Fowl", THIS is how you demonstrate that a character is a good chess player. Absolutely beautiful.
How is Artemis Fowl related to this?.. something related to the movie?
@Max Williams damn..thanx for replying..
@Max Williams it could happen 🤷♂️
@@nightcorequeen1074 well anything COULD happen, but I think it’s pretty foolish to say a grandmaster would get mated by anyone in 5 moves
@@Vwapz imagine a gm trying out an obsecure gambit line he has never played but knows about because that's how arrogant the gm is, tries to hard to remember the ideas of the gambit instead of looking at the board objectively, then messes up the order or something to a mate
"The Fried Liver" lol
ONE of the absolute Top 10 I have ever seen - I LOVED this movie!
2:18 Borgov: accepts Queen's Gambit
Me: Omae wa mou shindeiru!
nani?
@@oatglaabacus *slicing noises*
What i absolutely loved about this series is that it was a real story with flawed human beings, they arent perfect they have their own individual problems like all of us do to one degree or another. It wasnt those perfect people that never makes a mistake.
What also was great was that it wasnt the brain thrust behind her winning the game for her it was her winning the game of her life, she had some help on the way for sure but she won it with her own moves and decisions in the end.
She had her own problems and they almost did her in but she managed to overcome it in the end and even find some catharsis in doing so, it wasnt the drugs making her win it was her all the time. I sincerly hope we will be blessed with more series like this one, this was very well done.
Another great element they captured in the series is that she had to humble herself in order to win, her arrogans worked when she was young and had not real competition, but in order to rise to the top arrogans doesnt work you need people on your side, and you have to face the grim reality that maybe you arent the best after all and be willing to accept help.
People say she was arrogant, but I didn't ever think so...
I very much enjoyed that all the significant characters were fleshed out. In fact the story was an exercise in misleading first impressions. For instance, I expected her adoptive mother to be more manipulative but she actually cared about Beth and was a more astute observer than early impressions led me to believe. Pretty much every character was more than I expected. They were all too real. There are still talented people in the movie industry though trolling through Netflix's lineup could lead you to believe otherwise.
@@kimghanson yes the mother especially, at first it it seemed like she was just using her so she can get free money from her, but then she actually cared, maybe she was still using her but it seemed more like she truly cared about her love for chess
@@tanler7953 oh eow
Exactly! the fact that the humans in the show all had problems made the show sooo real and really hit home. Everybody made mistakes, and even mrs. Deardorff you kinda start to feel sorry for her in the end. Her mother wasn't perfect by any means either
Refreshing to see a fun series where the majority of characters are nice people
That's the most unrealistic part of the series. According to Judith Polgar (who must know better then we all) many men at that time have been very macho about female chess players.
Thanks Agad, now I understand why she was so happy and surprised after moving her King so slowly. And I really loved the way Borgov smiled at her.
HIKARU WAS DOING PIPI IN HIS PAMPERS WHILE IVANCHUK WAS STARING AT THE CEILING
lmaooooooooo
Rofl
Hopefully the show brings some awareness and popularity back to chess. The scenes of the Russian public glued to every move, standing outside in the cold... the mere fact that they even understood the play was a testimony to a great chess nation.
Yes! Those scenes caught the spirit of the Cold War. Russians, freezing their butts off outside, playing dozens of games. Meanwhile, a herd of dudes in a dank NYC basement apartment are her seconds and the only people in America that care. Until she wins. Then America loves her.
It did, the FIDE said they have seen a massive increase in interest in the game. Kasparov also said he believes it had a massive impact too. What's even better is that the FIDE said that this is only part of a "boom" in chess that started in the 90s. I got this information from a CNN article. This game is so amazing and I hope it lives on.
@@bobdagecko it will , chess has a beautiful history I dont think it will die like that. Also thanks to this show it seriously goes up
Excellent summary of this battle, thoroughly enjoyed this! Excellent
Brilliant analysis! All the 'what if' moves are nicely covered + blunders well-discussed. Thanks for the video!
Agad: Who looks at the ceiling more than Ivanchuk?
A MAN NAMED HIKARU NAKAMURA
Nah, Chuky beats him at ceiling staring :)
Chuky has been doing it far longer than hikaru, possible before hikaru was even born.
Naka has Stockfish installed on his ceiling
Hikaru's chat on Twitch once trolled him of seeing the ceiling while playing games and he showed to everyone by taking picture of the ceiling and posting it on Twitter. LoL
@@kiloromeo959 haha yeah I remember I was there that day.
Just finished the marathon about 5 minutes ago and suddenly found this. This channel never failed me.
Thanks that was awesome. I’ve watched that Queen‘s gambit twice now and this was really a pleasure to see the game. Nice job. I even sent it to people that don’t really know Chess. Because they loved the movie.
Thanks for the review of the game! You do such a great job with the analysis. Would love to see more analysis on other aspects of the show.
17:00 who stares at the ceiling more than Ivanchuk
Sad Hikaru: me? :(
Rotfl @ “Sad Hikaru”
nha kid, hikaru has nothing on Ivanchuk
@@TheMegadomino Hikaru vs Ivanchuk with stockfish on ceiling
@@smmshoe take my money!!
@@smmshoe lol
This show's greatness comes from the attention to detail, I love how the actor playing Borgov actually copied the way Kasparov touches/fixes his pieces before the game starts.
Also, this show made a lot of us want to learn chess properly but watching your videos I realized how complex and deep it is.
Kasparov himself was a consultant at this show
Title: betHer than the original. Only now I see the hidden subtle dedication in that!
Thank you for this wonderful video. I watched it along with the episode to understand what was going on.
Agad: Who stares at the ceiling more than Ivanchuk
Hikaru: Hold my ceiling fan
LMAO!! Hikaru has stockfish on his ceiling
@@arnolourens2030 lol
Lol
Loved the Netflix series. Taylor-Joy was just mesmerizing. Something with her eyes. I read the book after watching the series to see what was changed, and the series is pretty faithful. There are some minor differences but nothing major. Interestingly, the game against Borgov is not the one shown in the series. The game in the book involved exchanging queens and the end game sounded more similar to the final seen in Searching for Bobby Fischer. That was a great movie too.
I was mesmerized in every scene she was in. What a beauty.
The book was written in the mid-80s and the game was played in the early 90s, so it would've been pretty impressive if the author of the book had been able to base the final game on the actual game....
In the actual show, the first few moves have been changed and are not the same as in this video, but it is irrelevant to the game and the conclusion so I did not include this. Hope you enjoy the game :)
Seriously, she has an insanely magnetic cinematic presence
Marcin Dorocinski as Borgov, was 'beyond intimidating' as her antagonist on the board! Great actor! unknown and underrated even!
Imo Anya Taylor-Joy and Marcin Dorocinski are very potential winners for the next Emmy Awards on Best (female?)leading actress in a series and best support-actor.
Dibs to the writer of the original book too, and to the Director of this show!
This was a surprise! I was sceptical about 'yet another Strong Female Character in the lead'(not again...), yet this was a másterpiece!
my friend, few weeks ago I've started to watch your videos, then I've had already planned to watch Quenn's Gambit, and after enjoying so much the Series (and falling in love with Beth, of course), it came your video explaining the last game.. 'call it magic' , because it is..thx, I will always remember those days.
i think the name for that is "algorithm". :-P
Thank You for pure joy of analysis!
I thought all games was based on Fisher or Kasparov history, but our beloved Vasyl in final - is big surprise for me.
I love what the series is doing for the game of chess. Fantastic.
I checked google trends and found that the search term "chess" popped up when this series was launched
I started playing chess yesterday
@@phunweng962 That's awesome man! Hope you are having fun with it! It's a beautiful game
“I suppose , in the end , the whole of life becomes an act of Letting Go ….. But what always hurts the most is not taking a moment to say Goodbye”
"RIP to the Oldman in the basement
And the woman who adopted beth"
I was so angry with beth when I found out that she didnt give mr scheibel 10 bucks she promised.
@@edgarpusko9939 that's what she regret the most, she didn't have the time for the man who introduced the chess into her life
Beth and Mr. Shaibel head a much deeper connection and became a big part of each other's lives, 10 dollars and a few pleasantries notwithstanding, they gave each other a 'raison d'être'. They changed each other's lives immeasurably and permanently, for the better. Beth only became fully aware of this towards the end of the series, whereas as Mr Shaibel knew it all along.
Life of Pi
Irfaan Khan from life of pi
thanks for recovering the show ! now I know what was happened ! really hard to track :D
its so nice seeing this. crazy how high-level chess winds up almost a sideways game where the diagonals are used as both lines of offense and defense vs my games where its very much just the straights being used
This might be the first intelligent chess-related film ever. Usually the games are finished with the word "mate", as if super strong players miss that in long games. (Dont mention Kramnik vs comp!)
"Searching for Bobby Fischer" comes to mind. Of course, that was based on a true story.
Pawn sacrifice is great too ;)
“Don’t move until you see it.” - Great film with standout performances from Fishburne & Kingsley.
I think I liked The Queen of Katwe too, but I can't recall if she said mate in her games :D
"I've seen much worse movies" really sold it to me there, gonna go watch it now
Much worse chess movies dumbass
@@F4mwp I know dumb ass, I took it out of context
@@F4mwp chess movies are a subset of movies, thus by classical set logic he's seen worse movies is true as well. You are rude to call Vlad a dumbass.
@@zbnmth thank you for defence
lol. the undersell, yeah